Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520:RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-22 Thread Jamie Pauls
The problem you are having with the Main Menu show is that I placed the same 
description on the site for both shows. I'll need to fix that. Part one of 
the DM-520 demo is on September 26 and the second part is on the October 10 
show.
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From: "tim" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the 
DM-520:RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



awsome think I will get that one, ware is part one of the main menu 
showing the dm520? I found part 2, can't find part one though. thanks 
again
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01
Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: 
RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want 
to

always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote
control mic.

It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door 
voice

capture.

A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder 
that
isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 
is

actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size.

Tim


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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:
Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, 
indoors,

outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better
option.  think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move
forward.  thanks! much
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28
Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital
recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on 
one

hand, and a completely clear decision on the other.

This is a very detailed post.

I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference
speaker,
the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option 
is

perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just
flick
the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
reliability that record has activated.

If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the
DS-71.
You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the 
DM-520!


The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and
in
many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing 
the
DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very 
delayed

to
market.

Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, 
and
you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA 
on

the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of
the
DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built 
stereo

Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom
recording
modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully
tuned
the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the 
zoom

options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.

The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide
option
is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several 
speakers

from a single location.

If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open
air
situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
http://coffeecast.posterous.com

Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far 
better.

For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with
the
DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as
they
do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
absolute trust of capturing a recording 

Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
one quick question then I am ordering! monday morning at 9, the price on the 
page says $149, when you get to the cart, it says $199 whats up with that? 
thanks all this greatly! appriciated as it is to be ordered in less then 48 
hours!
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01
Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: 
RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want 
to

always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote
control mic.

It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door 
voice

capture.

A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that
isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is
actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size.

Tim


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:
Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, 
indoors,

outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better
option.  think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move
forward.  thanks! much
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28
Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital
recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on 
one

hand, and a completely clear decision on the other.

This is a very detailed post.

I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference
speaker,
the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option 
is

perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just
flick
the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
reliability that record has activated.

If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the
DS-71.
You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the 
DM-520!


The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and
in
many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing 
the

DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed
to
market.

Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and
you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on
the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of
the
DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built 
stereo

Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom
recording
modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully
tuned
the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom
options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.

The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide
option
is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several 
speakers

from a single location.

If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open
air
situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
http://coffeecast.posterous.com

Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better.
For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with
the
DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as
they
do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised.
Monitoring
important recordings with earphones is therefore useful.  I power the
machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford
to
lose quality of a recording.

Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the
supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even
when
supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track thi

Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-11-21 Thread tim
awsome think I will get that one, ware is part one of the main menu showing 
the dm520? I found part 2, can't find part one though. thanks again
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01
Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: 
RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71



The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want 
to

always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote
control mic.

It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door 
voice

capture.

A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that
isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is
actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size.

Tim


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:
Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, 
indoors,

outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better
option.  think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move
forward.  thanks! much
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Noonan" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28
Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital
recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on 
one

hand, and a completely clear decision on the other.

This is a very detailed post.

I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference
speaker,
the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option 
is

perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just
flick
the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total
reliability that record has activated.

If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the
DS-71.
You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the 
DM-520!


The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and
in
many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of
technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing 
the

DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed
to
market.

Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and
you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on
the DS-71.  However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of
the
DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think).

In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an
improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built 
stereo

Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom
recording
modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully
tuned
the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom
options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially
Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520.

The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide
option
is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several 
speakers

from a single location.

If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open
air
situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at
http://coffeecast.posterous.com

Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better.
For flipping  back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are
better.  Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the
speaker when you move to different recordings.  Both these problems with
the
DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as
they
do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder.

Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an
occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy.  This means that
absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised.
Monitoring
important recordings with earphones is therefore useful.  I power the
machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford
to
lose quality of a recording.

Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the
supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even
when
supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track this
problem
down, or do charge discharge cycling to see if the problem goes away.