Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520:RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71
The problem you are having with the Main Menu show is that I placed the same description on the site for both shows. I'll need to fix that. Part one of the DM-520 demo is on September 26 and the second part is on the October 10 show. - Original Message - From: "tim" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520:RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 awsome think I will get that one, ware is part one of the main menu showing the dm520? I found part 2, can't find part one though. thanks again - Original Message - From: "Tim Noonan" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01 Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want to always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote control mic. It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door voice capture. A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, indoors, outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better option. think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move forward. thanks! much - Original Message - From: "Tim Noonan" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28 Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on one hand, and a completely clear decision on the other. This is a very detailed post. I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference speaker, the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option is perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just flick the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total reliability that record has activated. If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the DS-71. You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the DM-520! The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and in many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing the DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed to market. Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on the DS-71. However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of the DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think). In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built stereo Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom recording modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully tuned the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520. The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide option is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several speakers from a single location. If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open air situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at http://coffeecast.posterous.com Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better. For flipping back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are better. Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the speaker when you move to different recordings. Both these problems with the DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as they do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder. Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy. This means that absolute trust of capturing a recording
Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71
one quick question then I am ordering! monday morning at 9, the price on the page says $149, when you get to the cart, it says $199 whats up with that? thanks all this greatly! appriciated as it is to be ordered in less then 48 hours! - Original Message - From: "Tim Noonan" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01 Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want to always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote control mic. It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door voice capture. A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, indoors, outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better option. think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move forward. thanks! much - Original Message - From: "Tim Noonan" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28 Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on one hand, and a completely clear decision on the other. This is a very detailed post. I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference speaker, the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option is perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just flick the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total reliability that record has activated. If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the DS-71. You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the DM-520! The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and in many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing the DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed to market. Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on the DS-71. However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of the DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think). In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built stereo Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom recording modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully tuned the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520. The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide option is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several speakers from a single location. If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open air situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at http://coffeecast.posterous.com Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better. For flipping back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are better. Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the speaker when you move to different recordings. Both these problems with the DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as they do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder. Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy. This means that absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised. Monitoring important recordings with earphones is therefore useful. I power the machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford to lose quality of a recording. Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even when supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track thi
Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71
awsome think I will get that one, ware is part one of the main menu showing the dm520? I found part 2, can't find part one though. thanks again - Original Message - From: "Tim Noonan" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 22:01 Subject: RE: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE:Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 The only reason you would go for the DS-71 over the DM520 is if you want to always use it as a personal voice recorder, or you like the wired remote control mic. It is fare as a sound effects recorder, great for in-door and out-door voice capture. A Pocket with quality external mics, or another higher grade recorder that isn't accessible will be better for full spectrum sound, but the DM-520 is actually pretty good and definitely the best all-rounder for its size. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digitalrecordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 cool now what about in my situation recording automobiles, people, indoors, outdoors etc will the dm520 be great for that? or is the ds71 a better option. think I have made my decition, but want to be sure before I move forward. thanks! much - Original Message - From: "Tim Noonan" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 21:28 Subject: Comparison of the Olympus DS-71 and the DM-520: RE: Digital recordersagain - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71 Ok, re the DS-71 and the DM-520, , it is actually a tricky decision on one hand, and a completely clear decision on the other. This is a very detailed post. I have both units - which I am happy about, because as a conference speaker, the DS-71 (like the DS-50) mic remote control and detachable mic option is perfect for capturing my presentations. I can wire myself up, and just flick the switch on the remote to start and stop recording - almost total reliability that record has activated. If, you have a DS-50, you can use its remote control and Mic with the DS-71. You can not, however, use the DS-50 or DS-71 remote control on the DM-520! The price I paid for the DS-71 was nearly double that of the DM-520, and in many ways the DS-71 is an inferior product, using an older generation of technology. I actually think someone stuffed up somewhere in releasing the DS-71 when they did, it feels like a legacy product that was very delayed to market. Still speaking about the DS-71, the recording quality is pretty good, and you do notice the Wave recording improvement over the DS50 and the WMA on the DS-71. However, it is not as good as the audio recording quality of the DM-520, and has more noise floor and Mic preamp noise (I think). In addition, the external stereo Microphone for the DS-71, though an improvement on the DS-50 mic is definitely inferior to the in-built stereo Mics of the DM-520, especially if you want to use any of the zoom recording modes that The DS-71 offers. I don't actually believe that they fully tuned the DS-71 mics for the Zoom technology. I would never use any of the zoom options on the DS-71, but I do use them for some situations (especially Narrow, and sometimes wide) on the DM-520. The narrow setting is good for keeping sounds localised, and the wide option is good for spreading the left right mike pickup to catch several speakers from a single location. If you want to hear how the DM-520 Narrow zoom mic setting works in open air situations, you can go to my CoffeeCast Conversations podcast at http://coffeecast.posterous.com Other advantages of the DS-71 are that it buffers key presses far better. For flipping back and forth between recordings in a folder, results are better. Also it doesn't exhibit the annoying audio click through the speaker when you move to different recordings. Both these problems with the DM-520 are bugs, and I do hope a firmware release will address them, as they do frustrate me, when using the DM-520 as a voice recorder. Also, it is necessary, occasionally, to reboot the DM-520 to fix an occasional bug where recording is flawed and choppy. This means that absolute trust of capturing a recording is somewhat compromised. Monitoring important recordings with earphones is therefore useful. I power the machine off, and back on prior to doing interviews, where I can't afford to lose quality of a recording. Finally, in complaint about the DM-520 is that I have stopped using the supplied rechargeable batteries, as they were dying unexpectedly, even when supposedly fully charged. I haven't had the time to fully track this problem down, or do charge discharge cycling to see if the problem goes away.