Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Tom, I sure wish that were a possibility, but I'm using an old Kenwood receiver here, not anything like a high tech device. I mean, a real dinasore.| On 2/26/2016 9:23 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Larry: Might it be that you've got something on your stereo receiver set for enhancments or something? Just a thought! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List<pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not through the sound card, only through Winamp. As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the equation, I don't even have surround sound on at all, because I am using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more suggestions. Thanks much, Larry On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote: Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your sound card. Then go to playback and then to the properties and then the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements. I hope that solves the problem. Tim -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry
RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Oh that could be too. But seriously though Tom. Dell does do something odd with the mother bord audio. I'm surprised Larry hasn't notised it till now. But then again I heard it straight away over Bose OE2I headphones. I have no idea what effect dell turns on. I checked mine so I could shut that particular effect off with out disabeling the ability to use effects, but no banana. Who knows what dell's up to. It disappoints me to hear they do that noncence with the XPS as well. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:23 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Larry: Might it be that you've got something on your stereo receiver set for enhancments or something? Just a thought! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not through the sound card, only through Winamp. As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the equation, I don't even have surround sound on at all, because I am using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more suggestions. Thanks much, Larry On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote: > Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your > sound card. Then go to playback and then to the properties and then > the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements. I hope that > solves the problem. > Tim > > -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe > > Listers, > > Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell > XPS > 7500 machine back in march of last year. > > It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a > characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, > depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely > centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if > they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least > more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. > > If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, > and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I > would really like to hear about it. > > Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be > corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes > that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. > > > BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. > > Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, > > Larry > > >
RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Larry: Might it be that you've got something on your stereo receiver set for enhancments or something? Just a thought! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not through the sound card, only through Winamp. As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the equation, I don't even have surround sound on at all, because I am using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more suggestions. Thanks much, Larry On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote: > Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your > sound card. Then go to playback and then to the properties and then > the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements. I hope that > solves the problem. > Tim > > -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe > > Listers, > > Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS > 7500 machine back in march of last year. > > It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a > characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, > depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely > centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they > are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so > than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. > > If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and > have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would > really like to hear about it. > > Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be > corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes > that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. > > > BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. > > Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, > > Larry > > >
Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Well Hamit, I gave it a try, and it didn't do enough to mollify me. I have that old Audigy in the old computer, and have considered taking it out and installing it on the Dell, but don't know where the cd with the drivers disappeared too, so that may not really be an option. Might have to break down and look for and purchase roughly the equivalent of that card, and hope there isn't hidden gimmickry on that one as well. But in the meantime ... On 2/26/2016 7:45 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Yeah the suggestion that you were given kinda fixes it. Gi than the XPS does that crap too then? I've noted it with my Enspireon 3000. It's some stupid wall reflection effect either Dell sets and who knows how to truly shut it off, and or Real Tech does this crap. Yeah I know that annoying effect. Kinda cool the first few seconds and for some sound effects, but very annoying. It's a reflection effect. Like when you are backing your car out of some ware and the moter reflects off something creating the elusion that oh now there's 2 cars. Oh no waitit's just yours.So yeah very annoying. I feel you. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:39 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry
Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not through the sound card, only through Winamp. As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the equation, I don't even have surround sound on at all, because I am using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more suggestions. Thanks much, Larry On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote: Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your sound card. Then go to playback and then to the properties and then the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements. I hope that solves the problem. Tim -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry
RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
As a side note I didn't note it right away and could have left it alone, but that was only because I use my Bose Companion 5 USB virtual surround sound system. But for grins and giggles I connected head phones to see what the card is like. Also to use the Stereo Mix feature. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:39 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry
RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Yeah the suggestion that you were given kinda fixes it. Gi than the XPS does that crap too then? I've noted it with my Enspireon 3000. It's some stupid wall reflection effect either Dell sets and who knows how to truly shut it off, and or Real Tech does this crap. Yeah I know that annoying effect. Kinda cool the first few seconds and for some sound effects, but very annoying. It's a reflection effect. Like when you are backing your car out of some ware and the moter reflects off something creating the elusion that oh now there's 2 cars. Oh no waitit's just yours.So yeah very annoying. I feel you. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:39 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry
Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your sound card. Then go to playback and then to the properties and then the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements. I hope that solves the problem. Tim -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry
Question about a sound card issue - maybe
Listers, Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 7500 machine back in march of last year. It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card. If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to hear about it. Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice. BTW, my speakers are correctly phased. Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated, Larry