Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Larry Higgins
Tom, I sure wish that were a possibility,  but I'm using  an old Kenwood 
receiver here, not anything like a high tech  device.  I mean, a real 
dinasore.|


On 2/26/2016 9:23 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Larry:  Might it be that you've got something on your stereo receiver set for 
enhancments or something?  Just a thought!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that
takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum
of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not
through the sound card, only through Winamp.

As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the
equation, I don't even  have surround sound on at all, because I am
using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more
suggestions.

Thanks much,

Larry

On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote:

Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your
sound card.  Then go to playback and then to the properties and then
the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements.  I hope that
solves the problem.
Tim

-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
7500 machine back in march of last year.

It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a
characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like,
depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely
centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they
are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so
than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card.

If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and
have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would
really like to hear about it.

Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes
that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.


BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry











RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Hamit Campos
Oh that could be too. But seriously though Tom. Dell does do something odd with 
the mother bord audio. I'm surprised Larry hasn't notised it till now. But then 
again I heard it straight away over Bose OE2I headphones. I have no idea what 
effect dell turns on. I checked mine so I could shut that particular effect off 
with out disabeling the ability to use effects, but no banana. Who knows what 
dell's up to. It disappoints me to hear they do that noncence with the XPS as 
well.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:23 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Larry:  Might it be that you've got something on your stereo receiver set for 
enhancments or something?  Just a thought!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that takes 
practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum of 
enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not through the 
sound card, only through Winamp.

As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the 
equation, I don't even  have surround sound on at all, because I am using an 
old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more suggestions.

Thanks much,

Larry

On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote:
> Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your 
> sound card.  Then go to playback and then to the properties and then 
> the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements.  I hope that 
> solves the problem.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
>
> Listers,
>
> Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell 
> XPS
> 7500 machine back in march of last year.
>
> It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a 
> characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, 
> depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely 
> centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if 
> they are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least 
> more so than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card.
>
> If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, 
> and have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I 
> would really like to hear about it.
>
> Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be 
> corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes 
> that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.
>
>
> BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.
>
> Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,
>
> Larry
>
>
>







RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Tom Kaufman
Larry:  Might it be that you've got something on your stereo receiver set for 
enhancments or something?  Just a thought!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that 
takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum 
of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not 
through the sound card, only through Winamp.

As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the 
equation, I don't even  have surround sound on at all, because I am 
using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more 
suggestions.

Thanks much,

Larry

On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote:
> Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your 
> sound card.  Then go to playback and then to the properties and then 
> the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements.  I hope that 
> solves the problem.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe
>
> Listers,
>
> Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
> 7500 machine back in march of last year.
>
> It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a
> characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like,
> depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely
> centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they
> are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so
> than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card.
>
> If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and
> have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would
> really like to hear about it.
>
> Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be
> corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes
> that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.
>
>
> BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.
>
> Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,
>
> Larry
>
>
>





Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Larry Higgins

Well Hamit, I gave it a try, and it didn't do enough to mollify me.

I have that old Audigy in the old computer, and have considered taking 
it out and installing it on  the Dell, but don't know where the cd with 
the drivers disappeared too, so that may not really be an option. Might 
have to break down and look for and purchase roughly the equivalent of 
that card, and hope there isn't hidden gimmickry on that one as well. 
But in the meantime ...


On 2/26/2016 7:45 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Yeah the suggestion that you were given kinda fixes it. Gi than the XPS 
does that crap too then? I've noted it with my Enspireon 3000. It's some stupid 
wall reflection effect either Dell sets and who knows how to truly shut it off, 
and or Real Tech does this crap. Yeah I know that annoying effect. Kinda cool 
the first few seconds and for some sound effects, but very annoying. It's a 
reflection effect. Like when you are backing your car out of some ware and the 
moter reflects off something creating the elusion that oh now there's 2 cars. 
Oh no waitit's just yours.So yeah very annoying. I feel you.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:39 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
7500 machine back in march of last year.

It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of 
making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are 
positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, 
they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background 
than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative 
Audigy card.

If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a 
ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to 
hear about it.

Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be 
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it 
wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.


BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry









Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Larry Higgins
Well Tim, thanks for that bit of advice, but I've tried that, and that 
takes practically all of my amplification away. I only have the minimum 
of enhancement going. I don't even have any equalization, at least not 
through the sound card, only through Winamp.


As far as Winamp, my player, and the part it might have to play in the 
equation, I don't even  have surround sound on at all, because I am 
using an old school analog stereo receiver. So, I am open to even more 
suggestions.


Thanks much,

Larry

On 2/26/2016 7:28 AM, Tim Aune wrote:
Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your 
sound card.  Then go to playback and then to the properties and then 
the enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements.  I hope that 
solves the problem.

Tim

-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
7500 machine back in march of last year.

It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a
characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like,
depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely
centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they
are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so
than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card.

If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and
have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would
really like to hear about it.

Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes
that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.


BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry








RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Hamit Campos
As a side note I didn't note it right away and could have left it alone, but 
that was only because I use my Bose Companion 5 USB virtual surround sound 
system. But for grins and giggles I connected head phones to see what the card 
is like. Also to use the Stereo Mix feature.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:39 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
7500 machine back in march of last year.

It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of 
making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are 
positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, 
they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background 
than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative 
Audigy card.

If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a 
ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to 
hear about it.

Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be 
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it 
wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.


BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry





RE: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah the suggestion that you were given kinda fixes it. Gi than the XPS 
does that crap too then? I've noted it with my Enspireon 3000. It's some stupid 
wall reflection effect either Dell sets and who knows how to truly shut it off, 
and or Real Tech does this crap. Yeah I know that annoying effect. Kinda cool 
the first few seconds and for some sound effects, but very annoying. It's a 
reflection effect. Like when you are backing your car out of some ware and the 
moter reflects off something creating the elusion that oh now there's 2 cars. 
Oh no waitit's just yours.So yeah very annoying. I feel you.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:39 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
7500 machine back in march of last year.

It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a characteristic of 
making voices sound as if they are cave like, depending how they are 
positioned. I think that if they are completely centered in a stereo version, 
they sound more reverberous, or as if they are a bit more in the background 
than they should be, at least more so than they sounded with my old Creative 
Audigy card.

If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and have a 
ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would really like to 
hear about it.

Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be 
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes that it 
wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.


BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry





Re: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Tim Aune
Try going in to control panel and go to sound link and click on your sound 
card.  Then go to playback and then to the properties and then the 
enhancements tabs and check disable all enhancements.  I hope that solves 
the problem.

Tim

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins

Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 5:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Question about a sound card issue - maybe

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS
7500 machine back in march of last year.

It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a
characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like,
depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely
centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they
are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so
than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card.

If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and
have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would
really like to hear about it.

Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes
that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.


BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry




Question about a sound card issue - maybe

2016-02-26 Thread Larry Higgins

Listers,

Something has been kind of bugging me since I began using this Dell XPS 
7500 machine back in march of last year.


It seems to me that the on board Realtech sound card has a 
characteristic of making voices sound as if they are cave like, 
depending how they are positioned. I think that if they are completely 
centered in a stereo version, they sound more reverberous, or as if they 
are a bit more in the background than they should be, at least more so 
than they sounded with my old Creative Audigy card.


If anybody has also noticed this with either this or any other card, and 
have a ready solution to what I at least consider a problem, I would 
really like to hear about it.


Guess I can live with it, I have for almost a year, but if it could be 
corrected, at least without having to buy another card, in the hopes 
that it wouldn't have the same issue, it would be nice.



BTW, my speakers are correctly phased.

Any input or advice on this would be very much appreciated,

Larry