Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
Absolutely right, if someone states that they don’t like something then there’s hardly any point reading a review they post or even talking to them about a product and yet its so easy to not like something. I experienced this myself with logitech Headsets, I had one in 2007 and the headset can only be described as utterly dreadful so I was very much against Logitech headsets until people started talking about the H800 Wireless offering. It took some convincing but I did buy one and - apart from the awful build quality - I was impressed with it and still use it. Yes, the H800 does have shortcomings as I said built quality isn’t good and it would have been nice if Logitech had used a better Bluetooth system but its still pretty good value for the buck. > On 30 Nov 2014, at 5:26 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > > Hi. I read that revue and it could hardly be considered unbiased. The guy > states from the outset he doesn't like B & W stuff so he is hardly likely to > give a subjective revue. > It's kinda like somebody saying they hate baked beans and then him being > asked to taste and give an honest revue and an impartial comment on which > brand of baked beans is best. At the end of the day if you are going to > spend a lot of money then you should always audition the equipment first and > do so on more than one occasion. The best option is to ask for a home > audition because even in the audition room of the dealer, the acoustics will > not be the same as your living room or bedroom. If the dealer is worth his > salt he should have a demo model or should be able to get one from the > manufacturer to let you listen to. I'm currently auditioning the B & W PV1 > subwoofer. I've had it for nearly 2 weeks now and have given it a good run > for it's money and like what i've heard and will buy one. If I had listened > to it in the store it most likely would have been through different > equipment and as I've said, different acoustics. For the most part, store > auditioning is great for narrowing your options until you find something > that might be to your taste then you could ask for a home audition. In the > end, it doesn't matter how many revues you read, your ears are the best > judge of what sounds good or bad to you. Walter. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: 29 November 2014 17:54 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting > for - Pocket-lint > > Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review > of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews, > unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I > can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what > the > do. > http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu > m-sound.html > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
I guess its a matter od doing you homework when it comes to reviews and you’re right about reviews, you read a few and you soon get the idea of who knows and who doesn’t know what they’re talking about or what they’re doing. When it comes to Short Wave radio sets for example, there’s some really good review stuff out there and not just from those who are paid to review either. Then again - having said all that - some of the offerings on the subject of Short Wave radio sets come from those who ought to give the hobby up as a bad job. There’s a classic review that runs along this vein on the Sangean ATS909x and I’ll try to find the link, I shouldn’t laugh I suppose but the review is certainly side splitting stuff. The chap who does the review tells us he’s been listening to Short Wave for over 50 years and he knows what he’s talking about, he then proceeds to turn on the Asangean ATS909X and examine the Short Wave bands. As people who listen to these bands regularly today will know, they’re not as populated as they once were so the chap - after not receiving anything much on the Sangean - tells us that reception on this radio is dreadful and again he knows, he’s been listening to Short Wave for 50 years! Well now make what you will of all that but my only comment is that Short wave today is certainly not the same as it was 50 years ago or even 20 years ago and you’re certainly not going to receive anything much at 2 O’Clock or thereabouts in an afternoon, that’s when this chap did his review and - as I said - I’ll try and find the link to that again and post it. > On 30 Nov 2014, at 4:53 am, Mary Otten wrote: > > Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review > of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews, > unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I > can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what > the > do. > http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu > m-sound.html > > ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
Hi. I read that revue and it could hardly be considered unbiased. The guy states from the outset he doesn't like B & W stuff so he is hardly likely to give a subjective revue. It's kinda like somebody saying they hate baked beans and then him being asked to taste and give an honest revue and an impartial comment on which brand of baked beans is best. At the end of the day if you are going to spend a lot of money then you should always audition the equipment first and do so on more than one occasion. The best option is to ask for a home audition because even in the audition room of the dealer, the acoustics will not be the same as your living room or bedroom. If the dealer is worth his salt he should have a demo model or should be able to get one from the manufacturer to let you listen to. I'm currently auditioning the B & W PV1 subwoofer. I've had it for nearly 2 weeks now and have given it a good run for it's money and like what i've heard and will buy one. If I had listened to it in the store it most likely would have been through different equipment and as I've said, different acoustics. For the most part, store auditioning is great for narrowing your options until you find something that might be to your taste then you could ask for a home audition. In the end, it doesn't matter how many revues you read, your ears are the best judge of what sounds good or bad to you. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 29 November 2014 17:54 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews, unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what the do. http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu m-sound.html --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
Yes that’s true however it certainly wouldn’t sound worse than anything else we have, as the reviewer said it still sounds pretty good. So Amazon are selling the units? That’s a pretty good price, bet your life they’re more expensive than that over here though I did get a pleasant surprise with the B&W Z2, got one for $300 and that’s incredible value for money. I think the other outstanding feature of this unit - apart from sound - would be the battery life of 18 hours, don’t know any Bluetooth portable except the Soundlinke III that would come anywhere near that, you get 14 hours from the Soundlink and that’s impressive enough, about 6 hours from the Logitech UE Boom but then again with the Boom I’m not at all surprised given the small battery that thing has, again what the engineers at Logitech were taking at the time of the UE Boom’s design one can only guess. > On 30 Nov 2014, at 5:06 am, Mary Otten wrote: > > The t7 sells for $349 in the U.S. on Amazon. Of possible interest is > the fact that the special aptx technology that it uses to improve the > bluetooth sound is not available on Apple devices and is apparently not > likely to be, since Qualcom owns the company that invented it. > > Mary > > ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
The t7 sells for $349 in the U.S. on Amazon. Of possible interest is the fact that the special aptx technology that it uses to improve the bluetooth sound is not available on Apple devices and is apparently not likely to be, since Qualcom owns the company that invented it. Mary
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews, unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what the do. http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu m-sound.html
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
In the review it said £300 but that’s English currency so you’ll have to do a google search and see how much you can get it for in the States, the T7 doesn’t seem to be available in Australia yet or I haven’t been able to find an Australian Stockest so I’ll keep looking. > On 30 Nov 2014, at 4:36 am, Sunshine wrote: > > how much do they want for this speaker system > On 11/29/2014 11:33 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on >> iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the >> speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound link >> 3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the >> bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from >> B&W such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment >> one way or the other. My only recent experience with B&W has been with >> the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived >> in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were. >> >> Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they >> want for it. >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> > > > ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
Hmm interesting but I really have to wonder what can be gained by comparing the B&W with the T7? You only have to read the review I linked to and you’ll see that we’re talking about 2 different systems, portable is a word that can be applied to both sure but the B&W is bigger for one thing. I have the Soundlink III as you do and I have 2 B&W speaker systems, the A5 and the Z2 and I can only wish that the Soundlink III exhibited the quality sound of the B&W Z2 even but then again, B&W products cost a little more. As far as connection problems go? Well Bluetooth can be a little problematic at times and it very much depends on your environment and what other sources of radio interference may be around, Bluetooth was never intended to have a wide range. I’ve never had much trouble in connecting any of the B&W AirPlay devices and there are around a Dozen Wi-Fi networks around my location now according to the last scan I did but then again I did make a commitment to invest in the best Wi-Fi routing device I could found. The point I’m trying to make I guess is that there are so many variables and circumstances when it comes to connection issues. > On 30 Nov 2014, at 4:33 am, Mary Otten wrote: > > I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on > iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the > speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound link > 3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the > bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from > B&W such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment > one way or the other. My only recent experience with B&W has been with > the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived > in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were. > > Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they > want for it. > > Mary > > ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
how much do they want for this speaker system On 11/29/2014 11:33 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound link 3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from B&W such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment one way or the other. My only recent experience with B&W has been with the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were. Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they want for it. Mary
Re: Bowers & Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint
I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound link 3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from B&W such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment one way or the other. My only recent experience with B&W has been with the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were. Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they want for it. Mary