Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
You say a bit to tight.
Does it mean your ears hurt from them?
I have a pair of marshal major here and they are quite tight on the head.
But they’re not half as good as my bose ae2.
/A
> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 16:36 skrev John Gurd :
> 
> I've got the P7's and really like the sound. I take them on holiday but 
> they're a little too big for everyday portable use. The only other drawback 
> is I find them a little tight on the head with prolonged listening. 
> 
> I've looked into headphone amps before, but couldn't find one with a 
> lightning connection for my iPhone6. There is one with the older Apple 
> connection but I couldn't find any for newer devices and I didn't want to use 
> the headphone jack as it would just pass on the faults of the built in DAC. I 
> would be interested if anyone has come across ssuch a thing.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit 
> Campos
> Sent: 26 September 2015 00:45
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> Yeah and actually the more I think about it it's true. I heard some BNW 
> speakers once on youtube and even threw the guy's not so good camera they 
> sounded epic. This person was playing the ship fight at the end of A New Hope 
> and the X Wings were clearer then I've ever heard them. Keep in mind this is 
> on youtube and threw a meh camera, so how must those speakers sound in actual 
> life? I want them homy. Thing is that they were several thousand dolars. So 
> yeah I know these people make good epic stuff. But you can't necessarily 
> judge 1 product by another. Especially a cheeper 1 by 1 that is several 
> thousands.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:20 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> I don t its a question of what s best, everyone likes different things.  The 
> question here is about good value for money and good headphones for the price.
> 
> As I initially stated, - in my view - the B&W P7 certainly give you that for 
> their money, great and natural speaker type sound, incredible tough build, 
> luxury finish etc.
> 
> 
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:06 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. From 
>> what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did 
>> hear 1 but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim 
>> the little Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the 
>> display. So I 1 can't judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with 
>> what you mean. But from what I've heard, I believe you.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
>> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
>> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
>> 
>> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
>> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
>> music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going 
>> to enjoy, the absolute detail.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>>> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to 
>>> ask about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the 
>>> wistle to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the 
>>> speaker or headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my 
>>> mind that Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I 
>>> digress. Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for 
>>> other things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I 
>>> just bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real 
>>> tricky. Either you do it well or it's meh. It&#

Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-27 Thread Dane Trethowan

Don't worry, I thought there would be method in your madness .

I'm interested in the AKG pair you mentioned, will do a little research 
on those.




On 9/28/2015 7:34 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

No, I just made a mistake. I meant to say p7 where I typed p5 in my
original note. I have not heard the p5, only the 7, and the in ear c5,
I believe they are. Don't know of b&w came out with a c7 like the p7.
Sorry for the stupid typo.

Mary




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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-27 Thread Mary Otten
No, I just made a mistake. I meant to say p7 where I typed p5 in my
original note. I have not heard the p5, only the 7, and the in ear c5,
I believe they are. Don't know of b&w came out with a c7 like the p7.
Sorry for the stupid typo.

Mary




Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
Just to clarify things so as to avoid any confusion, the P5's Mary 
speaks of are the model down from the P7's, both are made by Bowers And 
Wilkins though I don't think the P5's have either the full quality of 
audio that the P7's have nor do they have the quality of construction, 
I'm sure Mary could correct me if need be.



On 9/26/2015 1:07 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have to agree with Dane here, which might come as no surprise, since
I have always appreciated the sonic quality, if not the price, of B&W
products. I purchased a set of these a few months ago. I already had an
excellent pair of AKG Q701 phones. The only drawback with those is that
the use of a portable headphone amp with dac really helps when you're
listening via an i-device or any other portable, I would imagine. And
the cord on my AKG's is LONG, quite the opposite of the cable on the
P5s. The P5s are really outstanding, even without a preamp. I mean, who
wants to mess around with a preamp when you're out somewhere, like at
the beach or on the bus or whereever that isn't home?  I don't mind the
short cable, since I do use these exclusively with i-devices, not with
my home stereo preamp. I still love my akgs, but these p5s are
outstanding and more practical to use.

Mary




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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
Howdy!

Yes I’ve heard it said that these headphones can be a little uncomfortable over 
a long period of time listening, I’ve not experienced this yet myself and 
that’s most likely because I don’t usually listen to headphones more than an 
hour at a time before a small break so perhaps that makes a difference.

It should also be noted that the P7’s are not on the ear headphones but rather 
go over the ear thus they’re closed and noise isolating so the only thing 
you’re going to hear when these cans are placed on the head is the source 
connected to them.

As far as lightning connector Amps go? I’m sure they’re around, I’ll have a 
look and see what I can find.

Its been a good while since I used an IOS device so I’m not up-todate in the 
world if Lightning Connectors and Headphone amps but I’d be most surprised if 
one didn’t exist, the Amp I used was the old 30 pin Dock connector type model 
but worked well, I’ll write back to the list when I find a model so that 
probably won’t take me all that long, a chat with my friend Google is on the 
cards definitely for this exercise .

Anyway keep enjoying your P7’S as I’m doing.


> On 28 Sep 2015, at 12:36 am, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> I've got the P7's and really like the sound. I take them on holiday but 
> they're a little too big for everyday portable use. The only other drawback 
> is I find them a little tight on the head with prolonged listening. 
> 
> I've looked into headphone amps before, but couldn't find one with a 
> lightning connection for my iPhone6. There is one with the older Apple 
> connection but I couldn't find any for newer devices and I didn't want to use 
> the headphone jack as it would just pass on the faults of the built in DAC. I 
> would be interested if anyone has come across ssuch a thing.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit 
> Campos
> Sent: 26 September 2015 00:45
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> Yeah and actually the more I think about it it's true. I heard some BNW 
> speakers once on youtube and even threw the guy's not so good camera they 
> sounded epic. This person was playing the ship fight at the end of A New Hope 
> and the X Wings were clearer then I've ever heard them. Keep in mind this is 
> on youtube and threw a meh camera, so how must those speakers sound in actual 
> life? I want them homy. Thing is that they were several thousand dolars. So 
> yeah I know these people make good epic stuff. But you can't necessarily 
> judge 1 product by another. Especially a cheeper 1 by 1 that is several 
> thousands.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:20 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> I don t its a question of what s best, everyone likes different things.  The 
> question here is about good value for money and good headphones for the price.
> 
> As I initially stated, - in my view - the B&W P7 certainly give you that for 
> their money, great and natural speaker type sound, incredible tough build, 
> luxury finish etc.
> 
> 
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:06 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. From 
>> what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did 
>> hear 1 but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim 
>> the little Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the 
>> display. So I 1 can't judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with 
>> what you mean. But from what I've heard, I believe you.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
>> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
>> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
>> 
>> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
>> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
>> music to be played or spoken

RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-27 Thread John Gurd
I've got the P7's and really like the sound. I take them on holiday but they're 
a little too big for everyday portable use. The only other drawback is I find 
them a little tight on the head with prolonged listening. 

I've looked into headphone amps before, but couldn't find one with a lightning 
connection for my iPhone6. There is one with the older Apple connection but I 
couldn't find any for newer devices and I didn't want to use the headphone jack 
as it would just pass on the faults of the built in DAC. I would be interested 
if anyone has come across ssuch a thing.

Regards

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: 26 September 2015 00:45
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

Yeah and actually the more I think about it it's true. I heard some BNW 
speakers once on youtube and even threw the guy's not so good camera they 
sounded epic. This person was playing the ship fight at the end of A New Hope 
and the X Wings were clearer then I've ever heard them. Keep in mind this is on 
youtube and threw a meh camera, so how must those speakers sound in actual 
life? I want them homy. Thing is that they were several thousand dolars. So 
yeah I know these people make good epic stuff. But you can't necessarily judge 
1 product by another. Especially a cheeper 1 by 1 that is several thousands.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

I don t its a question of what s best, everyone likes different things.  The 
question here is about good value for money and good headphones for the price.

As I initially stated, - in my view - the B&W P7 certainly give you that for 
their money, great and natural speaker type sound, incredible tough build, 
luxury finish etc.


> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:06 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. >From 
> what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did hear 
> 1 but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim the 
> little Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the display. So 
> I 1 can't judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with what you mean. 
> But from what I've heard, I believe you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
> 
> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
> music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going 
> to enjoy, the absolute detail.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
>> about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle 
>> to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
>> headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that 
>> Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. 
>> Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other 
>> things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just 
>> bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. 
>> Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound 
>> to it's roar is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
>> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> And that s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you re in the u.S. Where I m told these cans can be yours 
>> for u

RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah and actually the more I think about it it's true. I heard some BNW 
speakers once on youtube and even threw the guy's not so good camera they 
sounded epic. This person was playing the ship fight at the end of A New Hope 
and the X Wings were clearer then I've ever heard them. Keep in mind this is on 
youtube and threw a meh camera, so how must those speakers sound in actual 
life? I want them homy. Thing is that they were several thousand dolars. So 
yeah I know these people make good epic stuff. But you can't necessarily judge 
1 product by another. Especially a cheeper 1 by 1 that is several thousands.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

I don’t its a question of what’s best, everyone likes different things.  The 
question here is about good value for money and good headphones for the price.

As I initially stated, - in my view - the B&W P7 certainly give you that for 
their money, great and natural speaker type sound, incredible tough build, 
luxury finish etc.


> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:06 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. >From 
> what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did hear 
> 1 but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim the 
> little Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the display. So 
> I 1 can't judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with what you mean. 
> But from what I've heard, I believe you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
> 
> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
> music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going 
> to enjoy, the absolute detail.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
>> about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle 
>> to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
>> headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that 
>> Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. 
>> Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other 
>> things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just 
>> bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. 
>> Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound 
>> to it's roar is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
>> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>> for under $300.
>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
>> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
>> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
>> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with si

RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Hamit Campos
Really, people would question buying these for movie audio? I mean I know most 
people wouldn't perhaps play film audio over their headsets, but to say a head 
set is too expensive? Interesting.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

Ah yes, there are people who would ask why spend such money? Unfortunately 
those people will never know what great sound is like, that’s up to them of 
course and I’m not knocking them but great sound to listen to is totally 
enjoyable and - given everything that’s happened over the last 30 years or so 
with technology - never become more affordable than it is now, in general the 
sonic quality we’re hearing has improved out of sight but the old rules still 
apply, the main being that you need to look around and do your homework before 
buying and - to some degree - you get what you pay for.

The sort of sound the B&W P7 gives is the sort of sound I had to pay $1200 for 
10 years ago so what’s that now, a third of the price with the P7? Not to 
mention the fact that the P7’s are far more comfortable and enjoyable to wear.


> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:10 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Cool man. Yeah I was just being humorous when I said here we go again. I 
> actually said it because I get the feeling some people might say that do to 1 
> how many people would play Godzilla 1998 roaring over them? Along with that, 
> 2 how many people would play movies period? So I get people might get tired  
> of me. Lol. But I only asked because I do. Heck I even play lightsaber duels 
> from all the Star Wars films over my bose OE2I set.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:08 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> As detailed as you’re likely to hear, perhaps I didn’t stress this point hard 
> enough in my eMail, everything is there for your ears to enjoy, from the 
> crashing bass drums or cannons found in 1812 to those wonderful silky strings.
> 
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2015, at 10:54 pm, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> How is the detailed listening in these cans?
>> I mean is the sound very detailed or is it just for dj use?
>> I want something for hard heavy metal symphonic rock/pop and classical music.
>> Would you suggest me to buy these cans?
>> Thanks dane.
>> /A
>>> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 12:44 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>>> 
>>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>>> for under $300.
>>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold 
>>> away design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but 
>>> they do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along 
>>> with 2 cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>>> B&W product after all.
>>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and 
>>> if I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, I tend to agree with that, probably a Plantronics something or other would 
be a lot better for sports and that sort of thing.

I know someone who bought a pair of P7’S for Skype communications, as you say 
its their money but I would add that to spend that sort of money for Skype 
communications only? Well that’s a lot of money for Skype, different if you 
have a nice music system which you wish to enjoy to the full.


> On 26 Sep 2015, at 7:12 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Obviously, one can do what one wishes with one's money. But if I were
> primarily listening to sports, I'm not sure I'd spring for something
> like the p7. For me, listening to essentially talk doesn't require the
> fidelity and cost of something like a p7. But different strokes, as
> they say.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I guess it depends on if the game is sent in stereo or not.
Here in Sweden many of the hockey games i listen to is in stereo and with my 
bose bluetooth headphones its an amazing experience.
/A
> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 23:12 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Obviously, one can do what one wishes with one's money. But if I were
> primarily listening to sports, I'm not sure I'd spring for something
> like the p7. For me, listening to essentially talk doesn't require the
> fidelity and cost of something like a p7. But different strokes, as
> they say.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 




Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I actually have a preamp for my iphone but as you say its very  clumsy.
Its for my Beyerdynamic DT770 which the Iphone don’t have the power to drive.
/A
> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 17:07 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> I have to agree with Dane here, which might come as no surprise, since
> I have always appreciated the sonic quality, if not the price, of B&W
> products. I purchased a set of these a few months ago. I already had an
> excellent pair of AKG Q701 phones. The only drawback with those is that
> the use of a portable headphone amp with dac really helps when you're
> listening via an i-device or any other portable, I would imagine. And
> the cord on my AKG's is LONG, quite the opposite of the cable on the
> P5s. The P5s are really outstanding, even without a preamp. I mean, who
> wants to mess around with a preamp when you're out somewhere, like at
> the beach or on the bus or whereever that isn't home?  I don't mind the
> short cable, since I do use these exclusively with i-devices, not with
> my home stereo preamp. I still love my akgs, but these p5s are
> outstanding and more practical to use. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> 




Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Anders,

Obviously, one can do what one wishes with one's money. But if I were
primarily listening to sports, I'm not sure I'd spring for something
like the p7. For me, listening to essentially talk doesn't require the
fidelity and cost of something like a p7. But different strokes, as
they say.

Mary




Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
No they'll be around and they're available in all the stores like Best 
Buy etc.



On 9/26/2015 4:42 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Could be great for my sports listening then.
Sadly they are a bit to much for my wallet right now but i guess they wont go a 
way for quite a long time.
/A

25 sep. 2015 kl. 16:46 skrev Dane Trethowan :

This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a good 
run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.

The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no emphasis 
on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's music to be 
played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going to enjoy, the 
absolute detail.



On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle to 
Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that Sony 
TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. Seriously 
dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other things. It makes 
things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just bring Zilla up always 
because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. Either you do it well or 
it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound to it's roar is.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, 
Feel, Build And Sound

And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours for under 
$300.
The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they do 
come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 cables, 
one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the conventional stereo 
type 3.5MM jack type cable.
The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, volume 
up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was listening to a 
30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, it took me a few 
moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair of very nice cans and 
then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a B&W product after all.
I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if I 
want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.





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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
If i got the money i would buy the audeze headphones.
I don’t remember the model name now but they’re magnetostatic.
/A
> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 17:06 skrev Hamit Campos :
> 
> Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. From 
> what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did hear 
> 1 but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim the 
> little Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the display. So 
> I 1 can't judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with what you mean. 
> But from what I've heard, I believe you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
> 
> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
> music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going 
> to enjoy, the absolute detail.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
>> about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle 
>> to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
>> headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that 
>> Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. 
>> Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other 
>> things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just 
>> bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. 
>> Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound 
>> to it's roar is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
>> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>> for under $300.
>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
>> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
>> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
>> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>> B&W product after all.
>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
>> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Could be great for my sports listening then.
Sadly they are a bit to much for my wallet right now but i guess they wont go a 
way for quite a long time.
/A
> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 16:46 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
> 
> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
> music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going 
> to enjoy, the absolute detail.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
>> about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle 
>> to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
>> headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that 
>> Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. 
>> Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other 
>> things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just 
>> bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. 
>> Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound 
>> to it's roar is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
>> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>> for under $300.
>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
>> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
>> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
>> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>> B&W product after all.
>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
>> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> 
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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah yes, there are people who would ask why spend such money? Unfortunately 
those people will never know what great sound is like, that’s up to them of 
course and I’m not knocking them but great sound to listen to is totally 
enjoyable and - given everything that’s happened over the last 30 years or so 
with technology - never become more affordable than it is now, in general the 
sonic quality we’re hearing has improved out of sight but the old rules still 
apply, the main being that you need to look around and do your homework before 
buying and - to some degree - you get what you pay for.

The sort of sound the B&W P7 gives is the sort of sound I had to pay $1200 for 
10 years ago so what’s that now, a third of the price with the P7? Not to 
mention the fact that the P7’s are far more comfortable and enjoyable to wear.


> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:10 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Cool man. Yeah I was just being humorous when I said here we go again. I 
> actually said it because I get the feeling some people might say that do to 1 
> how many people would play Godzilla 1998 roaring over them? Along with that, 
> 2 how many people would play movies period? So I get people might get tired  
> of me. Lol. But I only asked because I do. Heck I even play lightsaber duels 
> from all the Star Wars films over my bose OE2I set.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:08 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> As detailed as you’re likely to hear, perhaps I didn’t stress this point hard 
> enough in my eMail, everything is there for your ears to enjoy, from the 
> crashing bass drums or cannons found in 1812 to those wonderful silky strings.
> 
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2015, at 10:54 pm, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> How is the detailed listening in these cans?
>> I mean is the sound very detailed or is it just for dj use?
>> I want something for hard heavy metal symphonic rock/pop and classical music.
>> Would you suggest me to buy these cans?
>> Thanks dane.
>> /A
>>> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 12:44 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>>> 
>>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>>> for under $300.
>>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold 
>>> away design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but 
>>> they do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along 
>>> with 2 cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>>> B&W product after all.
>>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and 
>>> if I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah thanks for mentioning Headphone amps, I should think that if you want the 
best sound from an iPhone then one of these would go very nicely with a set of 
good headphones, Apple devices unfortunately don’t exhibit great sound quality 
- listen to your music through something like a Samsung Note4 through a good 
pair of headphones and you’ll soon hear the difference -.

Anyway back to the headphone amplifier, the one I have has its own DAC’S 
onboard so its not relying on the DAC’S in an iPhone or whatever device you’re 
carrying around in your pocket.

The use of an amp gives the user far more flexibility when it comes to the 
choice of headphones, the Grado SR60I headphones are incredible value for money 
at $60 however they don’t go well with an iPhone on their own as they’re not 
too efficient but with the help of a headphone amp? Well the combination just 
transforms the listening experience totally.

There are many headphone amps available, I don’t use an iPhone at the moment 
but the headphone amp I used with my iPhone 6 plugged into the dock connector 
and clipped onto my shirt pocket, shirt collar etc.

The one I use with my Note4 - not that I need to use that often - is the same 
sort of design but plugs into the USB port of the Note4.

> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:07 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have to agree with Dane here, which might come as no surprise, since
> I have always appreciated the sonic quality, if not the price, of B&W
> products. I purchased a set of these a few months ago. I already had an
> excellent pair of AKG Q701 phones. The only drawback with those is that
> the use of a portable headphone amp with dac really helps when you're
> listening via an i-device or any other portable, I would imagine. And
> the cord on my AKG's is LONG, quite the opposite of the cable on the
> P5s. The P5s are really outstanding, even without a preamp. I mean, who
> wants to mess around with a preamp when you're out somewhere, like at
> the beach or on the bus or whereever that isn't home?  I don't mind the
> short cable, since I do use these exclusively with i-devices, not with
> my home stereo preamp. I still love my akgs, but these p5s are
> outstanding and more practical to use. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
I don’t its a question of what’s best, everyone likes different things.  The 
question here is about good value for money and good headphones for the price.

As I initially stated, - in my view - the B&W P7 certainly give you that for 
their money, great and natural speaker type sound, incredible tough build, 
luxury finish etc.


> On 26 Sep 2015, at 1:06 am, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. From 
> what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did hear 
> 1 but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim the 
> little Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the display. So 
> I 1 can't judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with what you mean. 
> But from what I've heard, I believe you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
> good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
> 
> The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
> emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's 
> music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going 
> to enjoy, the absolute detail.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
>> about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle 
>> to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
>> headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that 
>> Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. 
>> Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other 
>> things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just 
>> bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. 
>> Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound 
>> to it's roar is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
>> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>> 
>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>> for under $300.
>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
>> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
>> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
>> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>> B&W product after all.
>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
>> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Hamit Campos
Wow then these are real good then. I mean AKG that's pro stuff. Then these
BNW phones are just way too epic then I guess.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:08 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

I have to agree with Dane here, which might come as no surprise, since I
have always appreciated the sonic quality, if not the price, of B&W
products. I purchased a set of these a few months ago. I already had an
excellent pair of AKG Q701 phones. The only drawback with those is that the
use of a portable headphone amp with dac really helps when you're listening
via an i-device or any other portable, I would imagine. And the cord on my
AKG's is LONG, quite the opposite of the cable on the P5s. The P5s are
really outstanding, even without a preamp. I mean, who wants to mess around
with a preamp when you're out somewhere, like at the beach or on the bus or
whereever that isn't home?  I don't mind the short cable, since I do use
these exclusively with i-devices, not with my home stereo preamp. I still
love my akgs, but these p5s are outstanding and more practical to use. 

Mary






RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Hamit Campos
Cool man. Yeah I was just being humorous when I said here we go again. I 
actually said it because I get the feeling some people might say that do to 1 
how many people would play Godzilla 1998 roaring over them? Along with that, 2 
how many people would play movies period? So I get people might get tired  of 
me. Lol. But I only asked because I do. Heck I even play lightsaber duels from 
all the Star Wars films over my bose OE2I set.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:08 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

As detailed as you’re likely to hear, perhaps I didn’t stress this point hard 
enough in my eMail, everything is there for your ears to enjoy, from the 
crashing bass drums or cannons found in 1812 to those wonderful silky strings.


> On 25 Sep 2015, at 10:54 pm, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> How is the detailed listening in these cans?
> I mean is the sound very detailed or is it just for dj use?
> I want something for hard heavy metal symphonic rock/pop and classical music.
> Would you suggest me to buy these cans?
> Thanks dane.
> /A
>> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 12:44 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>> for under $300.
>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
>> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
>> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
>> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>> B&W product after all.
>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
>> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Hamit Campos
Cool man. Wow then it's real good. I mean Senheiser is 1 of the best. >From 
what I've heard. I've not heard Senheiser sets with anything real. I did hear 1 
but it was just for 1 of the display things at a muzeam that you aim the little 
Walkman thing at and it plays stuff having to do with the display. So I 1 can't 
judge and 2 can't really fully come to turmes with what you mean. But from what 
I've heard, I believe you.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a good 
run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.

The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no emphasis 
on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if there's music to be 
played or spoken word to be heard then that's what you're going to enjoy, the 
absolute detail.



On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
> about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle 
> to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
> headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that 
> Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. 
> Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other 
> things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just 
> bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. 
> Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound 
> to it's roar is.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
> Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
>
> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours for 
> under $300.
> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was listening 
> to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, it took me 
> a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair of very nice 
> cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a B&W product 
> after all.
> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>
>
>
>

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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten
I have to agree with Dane here, which might come as no surprise, since
I have always appreciated the sonic quality, if not the price, of B&W
products. I purchased a set of these a few months ago. I already had an
excellent pair of AKG Q701 phones. The only drawback with those is that
the use of a portable headphone amp with dac really helps when you're
listening via an i-device or any other portable, I would imagine. And
the cord on my AKG's is LONG, quite the opposite of the cable on the
P5s. The P5s are really outstanding, even without a preamp. I mean, who
wants to mess around with a preamp when you're out somewhere, like at
the beach or on the bus or whereever that isn't home?  I don't mind the
short cable, since I do use these exclusively with i-devices, not with
my home stereo preamp. I still love my akgs, but these p5s are
outstanding and more practical to use. 

Mary




Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
This B&W set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years 
a good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.


The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if 
there's music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what 
you're going to enjoy, the absolute detail.




On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle to 
Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that Sony 
TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. Seriously 
dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other things. It makes 
things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just bring Zilla up always 
because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. Either you do it well or 
it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound to it's roar is.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, 
Feel, Build And Sound

And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours for under 
$300.
The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they do 
come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 cables, 
one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the conventional stereo 
type 3.5MM jack type cable.
The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, volume 
up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was listening to a 
30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, it took me a few 
moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair of very nice cans and 
then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a B&W product after all.
I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if I 
want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.






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Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Dane Trethowan
As detailed as you’re likely to hear, perhaps I didn’t stress this point hard 
enough in my eMail, everything is there for your ears to enjoy, from the 
crashing bass drums or cannons found in 1812 to those wonderful silky strings.


> On 25 Sep 2015, at 10:54 pm, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> How is the detailed listening in these cans?
> I mean is the sound very detailed or is it just for dj use?
> I want something for hard heavy metal symphonic rock/pop and classical music.
> Would you suggest me to buy these cans?
> Thanks dane.
> /A
>> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 12:44 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
>> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours 
>> for under $300.
>> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
>> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
>> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
>> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
>> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
>> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
>> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
>> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
>> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
>> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
>> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
>> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, 
>> it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair 
>> of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a 
>> B&W product after all.
>> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
>> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
>> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
>> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
>> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
>> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.





RE: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Hamit Campos
Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to ask 
about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the wistle to 
Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the speaker or 
headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows my mind that Sony 
TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? But I digress. Seriously 
dude. Also real crispness to the high end is usefull for other things. It makes 
things real sharp and clear. Well for me anyways. I just bring Zilla up always 
because that's 1 instance where it gets real tricky. Either you do it well or 
it's meh. It's that particular that wistling sound to it's roar is.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, 
Feel, Build And Sound

And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours for 
under $300.
The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they do 
come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 cables, 
one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the conventional stereo 
type 3.5MM jack type cable.
The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, volume 
up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was listening 
to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, it took me a 
few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair of very nice cans 
and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a B&W product after all.
I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if I 
want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.






Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury Looks, Feel, Build And Sound

2015-09-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
How is the detailed listening in these cans?
I mean is the sound very detailed or is it just for dj use?
I want something for hard heavy metal symphonic rock/pop and classical music.
Would you suggest me to buy these cans?
Thanks dane.
/A
> 25 sep. 2015 kl. 12:44 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> And that’s exactly what the B&W P7 offer and a reasonably affordable price 
> particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be yours for 
> under $300.
> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold away 
> design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system but they 
> do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems along with 2 
> cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other is the 
> conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was listening 
> to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high tweeters, it took me 
> a few moments to realise that I was in fact listening to a pair of very nice 
> cans and then it all clicked into place, we’re talking about a B&W product 
> after all.
> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be longer 
> however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable use and if 
> I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an extension.
> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
> 
>