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Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Soundbars hi, It must be an old one. 'Cause my Sony has a bunch of these on the side. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: "Mike Thomas" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one th
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Why not buy an hdmi splitter? They're much less expensive than a new tv! - Original Message - From: "Gary Wood" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:07 AM Subject: Re: Soundbars And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: "Mike Thomas" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message----- From: Pc-audio [mailto
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hi, It must be an old one. 'Cause my Sony has a bunch of these on the side. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: "Mike Thomas" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc
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And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: "Mike Thomas" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraord
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I don't really know where I heard this, but I thought I heard it somewhere, either from a Soundbar Manufacturer, or a TV manufacturer. I don't know why, but it would seem to me to make sense. I'm not an expert on those things. - Original Message - From: "Walter Ramage" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:26 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Don't know who told you that? but either they don't know what they are talking about or are trying to wind you up, or both. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: 10 May 2014 09:20 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen. - Original Message - From: "Walter Ramage" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound sy
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How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If > a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I > guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and > act accordingly. > If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then > feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. > I > think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a > particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to > music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it > is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. > If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to > audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are > soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match > the price. Walter. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the > price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to > improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard > of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there > one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as > this one you have described? > Tom Kaufman > > -----Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Walter Ramage > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This > Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is > remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment > or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you > know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds > off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. > The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. > It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. > The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in > front of the TV. This positio
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Interesting. I haven't heard that as if yet. I should ask Scott about this. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:20 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen. - Original Message - From: "Walter Ramage" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If > a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I > guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and > act accordingly. > If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then > feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. > I > think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a > particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to > music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it > is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. > If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to > audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are > soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match > the price. Walter. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the > price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to > improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard > of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there > one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as > this one you have described? > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Walter Ramage > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This > Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is > remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment > or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you > know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds > off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. > The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. > It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. > The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in > front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality > due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The > Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It > isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The > Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. > As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. > You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas > Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer.
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Don't know who told you that? but either they don't know what they are talking about or are trying to wind you up, or both. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: 10 May 2014 09:20 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen. - Original Message - From: "Walter Ramage" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar l
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I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen. - Original Message - From: "Walter Ramage" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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I think it might be above the TV. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what?
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The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on > top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about > the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length > that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. > What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality > immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to > be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I > leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no > other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I > can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. > > Hope this helps, > Mike > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM > Subject: Soundbars > > > Hi! > > Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone > could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. > > I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 > inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a > soundbar, would be near perfect. > > So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or > what? > > > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what?
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I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a > soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is > worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. > If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then > feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I > think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a > particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music > seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use > with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going > to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar > first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every > pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag > is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the > sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars > before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the > job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter > Ramage > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar > is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it > is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear > sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers > but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it > acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all > automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer > and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the > wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has > no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to > its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you > pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches > deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. > As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You > can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar > doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars > but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 > has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the > sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my > view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth > your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Soundbars > > Hi! > > Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone > could give a description of what a sound
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Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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Sounds a similar set-up system to what the Denon AVR Surround-Sound receiver in the lounge uses and yep, amazing the difference made when that is run. Thanks for the explanation of the position etc of the unit, it seems there are quite a few different ways Soundbar systems have for alignment or positioning with your Television. On 10 May 2014, at 8:12 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > Hi Dane. When I said the Soundbar is 7 to 8 inches deep I meant from back > to front. The height from the table top is only around 2 inches. It comes > with booster feet if your TV has a stand so it can sit over the TV stand but > you don't need to use these booster feet. If the beginning of the screen at > the bottom of the TV is more than a couple of inches from the top of the > table then it will be OK. It can even sit on a shelf under the TV as it > won't bother the sound quality. To let you know how it is set up; you are > provided with a headset, just like a pair of headphones but without the ear > cups. You place this over your head like a headphone band. This is > connected by a wire, a very long wire, around 15 to 20 feet in length. When > you plug it into the soundbar it tells you it is ready for the set up and > explains what it wants you to do. When you are ready you press the up > volume button and it begins. It asks you to sit in your 1st listening > position. When you are there you are to press the up volume button. You > then hear various frequency tones of differing sound levels and intensities > being first emitted from the soundbar and then the subwoofer. This goes on > for around 10 to 15 seconds. When it stops it then asks you to move to your > second listening position and again to press the up volume button and the > routine is repeated. You do this for 5 listening positions and when it is > completed there is a pause for around 20 seconds while the onboard processor > calibrates the internal speakers When it has completed the process it thanks > you and lets you know you can disconnect the headset. When I did this my > first listening position was in the position I would normally sit. The > other 4 positions was at the four corners of the room and this gave such a > wide sound stage. My living room is 27 feet in length and my listening > position is more or less in the middle and the soundbar sitting flat on the > table in front of the TV. It was baffling to hear sounds coming from 12 or > 13 feet to my left or the same to my right. The sound of a car or a jet > taking off across the soundstage was impressive as you heard it travel the > length of the living room. The Headset obviously contained sound sensors or > mics to allow the sound to be analysed. Would strongly recommend the SR1. > Walter. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 09 May 2014 22:49 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > Thanks for that, I do own some Bose products and as you say, they're not > cheap but worth every penny when it comes to the quality of sound out of > those things, not as good as the B&W system I have but still not bad! > > Interesting about the placement of the unit, that was something I had been a > little concerned about, I don't know how the Bose Soundbar would go in front > of my small 19 inch Television, given the measurements you've given I > suggest that part of the screen would be blocked so perhaps the TV could sit > on top, what do you think? > > > On 10 May 2014, at 7:35 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > >> Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar >> is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When > it >> is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear >> sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers >> but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it >> acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all >> automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer >> and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the >> wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has >> no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to >> its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you >> pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches >> deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned > on. >> As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You >> can ge
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Hi Dane. When I said the Soundbar is 7 to 8 inches deep I meant from back to front. The height from the table top is only around 2 inches. It comes with booster feet if your TV has a stand so it can sit over the TV stand but you don't need to use these booster feet. If the beginning of the screen at the bottom of the TV is more than a couple of inches from the top of the table then it will be OK. It can even sit on a shelf under the TV as it won't bother the sound quality. To let you know how it is set up; you are provided with a headset, just like a pair of headphones but without the ear cups. You place this over your head like a headphone band. This is connected by a wire, a very long wire, around 15 to 20 feet in length. When you plug it into the soundbar it tells you it is ready for the set up and explains what it wants you to do. When you are ready you press the up volume button and it begins. It asks you to sit in your 1st listening position. When you are there you are to press the up volume button. You then hear various frequency tones of differing sound levels and intensities being first emitted from the soundbar and then the subwoofer. This goes on for around 10 to 15 seconds. When it stops it then asks you to move to your second listening position and again to press the up volume button and the routine is repeated. You do this for 5 listening positions and when it is completed there is a pause for around 20 seconds while the onboard processor calibrates the internal speakers When it has completed the process it thanks you and lets you know you can disconnect the headset. When I did this my first listening position was in the position I would normally sit. The other 4 positions was at the four corners of the room and this gave such a wide sound stage. My living room is 27 feet in length and my listening position is more or less in the middle and the soundbar sitting flat on the table in front of the TV. It was baffling to hear sounds coming from 12 or 13 feet to my left or the same to my right. The sound of a car or a jet taking off across the soundstage was impressive as you heard it travel the length of the living room. The Headset obviously contained sound sensors or mics to allow the sound to be analysed. Would strongly recommend the SR1. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 22:49 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars Thanks for that, I do own some Bose products and as you say, they're not cheap but worth every penny when it comes to the quality of sound out of those things, not as good as the B&W system I have but still not bad! Interesting about the placement of the unit, that was something I had been a little concerned about, I don't know how the Bose Soundbar would go in front of my small 19 inch Television, given the measurements you've given I suggest that part of the screen would be blocked so perhaps the TV could sit on top, what do you think? On 10 May 2014, at 7:35 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar > is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it > is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear > sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers > but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it > acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all > automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer > and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the > wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has > no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to > its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you > pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches > deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. > As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You > can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar > doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars > but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 > has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the > sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my > view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth > your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 > To:
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I'm sure there are many, I'm looking with google now and I see a Teak for $50 though I'm absolutely sure it wouldn't offer what the Bose does , they go up from there. On "The Leo Report" some time ago - I listen to it on Radio KFI every Saturday and Sunday morning - they talked about how good one of the Pioneer models was, unfortunately that model is not available in Australia, think it had a price tag of around $300 U.S. so perhaps you may wish to look up archives of the show or look for reviews on Pioneer Soundbars. On 10 May 2014, at 7:59 am, Tom Kaufman wrote: > Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag > is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the > sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars > before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the > job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter > Ramage > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Soundbars > > Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar > is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it > is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear > sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers > but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it > acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all > automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer > and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the > wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has > no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to > its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you > pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches > deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. > As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You > can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar > doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars > but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 > has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the > sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my > view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth > your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Soundbars > > Hi! > > Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone > could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. > > I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller > 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a > soundbar, would be near perfect. > > So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or > what? > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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Thanks for that, I do own some Bose products and as you say, they're not cheap but worth every penny when it comes to the quality of sound out of those things, not as good as the B&W system I have but still not bad! Interesting about the placement of the unit, that was something I had been a little concerned about, I don't know how the Bose Soundbar would go in front of my small 19 inch Television, given the measurements you've given I suggest that part of the screen would be blocked so perhaps the TV could sit on top, what do you think? On 10 May 2014, at 7:35 am, Walter Ramage wrote: > Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar > is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it > is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear > sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers > but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it > acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all > automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer > and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the > wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has > no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to > its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you > pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches > deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. > As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You > can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar > doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars > but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 > has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the > sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my > view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth > your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Soundbars > > Hi! > > Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone > could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. > > I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller > 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a > soundbar, would be near perfect. > > So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or > what? > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
