Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
Hi Scott. I use Goldwave for doing just the same task. I have my collection ripped in lossless WMA format but create copies from those masters in MP3 format at lower bit rates for using with portable players. Goldwave is shareware but can be used for free for some considerable time until you're ready to buy. It has a batch converter that will allow you to choose the lower bit rate and save to a separate folder. You can also adjust the volume of your files so they're all pretty much the same volume at the same time. As mentioned, using a lower bit rate will lose some of the top and bottom end of the audio spectrum and will make the overall sound just a little more closed in but this is subjective based on what kind of player you'll be using to listen to the end result. 192kbps gives good results particularly with portable players and computers. If listening through a good hi-fi you might not want to go below that 320kbps or even go one step further and use a lossless format. Someone mentioned raising the bit rates on files during this thread. This would be a complete waste of time and space as once you've thrown away the music that makes up the higher bit rates, you can't get it back. Think of it in terms of a pint glass full of beer and an empty half pint glass. You can pour the pint into the half pint glass until it's full and then throw away the other half. Now if you pour that half pint back into the pint glass, the pint glass is as big as it was originally but you only got half the beer! Changing formats between MP3 and WMA or any other format is not advisable. Music on computers is nothing more than math. The computer has no comprehension of what it's encoding and how good it's sounding, it applies the same algorithm each time when encoding and decoding. However, each format will have it's own specific algorithm and these will decide which parts of music are kept or thrown away when encoding. Therefore, a WMA encoder may throw away part of the music that an MP3 encoder may keep and vice versa. The only exception to this is when converting from lossless WMA to MP3 as there was none of the audio spectrum thrown away when encoding to lossless WMA and so nothing to lose if converting to any other format to create a copy. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Scott Blanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
Hi, I do the samething pretty much. It does work very well and goldwave is worth the money. Rick === Contact Information: Skype ID: rharmon928 MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 330-724-6093 Location: Akron, Ohio USA The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of seeing people towards them. - Helen Keller, 1925 - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi Scott. I use Goldwave for doing just the same task. I have my collection ripped in lossless WMA format but create copies from those masters in MP3 format at lower bit rates for using with portable players. Goldwave is shareware but can be used for free for some considerable time until you're ready to buy. It has a batch converter that will allow you to choose the lower bit rate and save to a separate folder. You can also adjust the volume of your files so they're all pretty much the same volume at the same time. As mentioned, using a lower bit rate will lose some of the top and bottom end of the audio spectrum and will make the overall sound just a little more closed in but this is subjective based on what kind of player you'll be using to listen to the end result. 192kbps gives good results particularly with portable players and computers. If listening through a good hi-fi you might not want to go below that 320kbps or even go one step further and use a lossless format. Someone mentioned raising the bit rates on files during this thread. This would be a complete waste of time and space as once you've thrown away the music that makes up the higher bit rates, you can't get it back. Think of it in terms of a pint glass full of beer and an empty half pint glass. You can pour the pint into the half pint glass until it's full and then throw away the other half. Now if you pour that half pint back into the pint glass, the pint glass is as big as it was originally but you only got half the beer! Changing formats between MP3 and WMA or any other format is not advisable. Music on computers is nothing more than math. The computer has no comprehension of what it's encoding and how good it's sounding, it applies the same algorithm each time when encoding and decoding. However, each format will have it's own specific algorithm and these will decide which parts of music are kept or thrown away when encoding. Therefore, a WMA encoder may throw away part of the music that an MP3 encoder may keep and vice versa. The only exception to this is when converting from lossless WMA to MP3 as there was none of the audio spectrum thrown away when encoding to lossless WMA and so nothing to lose if converting to any other format to create a copy. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Scott Blanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
hey scott! i think you can use real player to convert files! do u have real player plus! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:31:57 -0800 Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com _ It's the future, it's here, and it's free: Windows Live Mail beta http://www2.imagine-msn.com/minisites/mail/Default.aspx?locale=en-us ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
Just be aware that if you convert an MP3 from one bit rate to antoher, you'll have less audio quality that if you'd just saved the file in the smaller bitrate int he first place, because that conversion will involve uncompressing and recompressing the MP3. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Jouie wrote: Links? I'm not sure because my two unpopular/untraditional programs here came from my friends. I have an idea about where can you get them but, I will still make sure about that. One named switch. It's a small file and its main feature is to convert WMA to mp3/wav or otherwise. But, if the file is already in mp3 format, you can just rip it again and set that bitrate thing to your chois. The other one is the CDX. I'm not sure if you have an idea on this. But, unfortunately, the files should come from the CD. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:45 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org
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I'd do that with Lame. Something like this should work: lame --mp3input -b 192 filename *** Michael Lang *** You wrote: Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
Sir Bruce. They like that anyway... I just give them the software and the result would be what they have decided to have. I don't know much about that quality or something, but, I learned that while the file is getting smaller, the quality is also getting lower. In fact, I have here a WMA file that is only 500+KB in size. You can even put it on a diskette! I'm not that sure about the quality as I said. But, I know that the sound is something different compared to its MP3 format. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:06 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Just be aware that if you convert an MP3 from one bit rate to antoher, you'll have less audio quality that if you'd just saved the file in the smaller bitrate int he first place, because that conversion will involve uncompressing and recompressing the MP3. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Jouie wrote: Links? I'm not sure because my two unpopular/untraditional programs here came from my friends. I have an idea about where can you get them but, I will still make sure about that. One named switch. It's a small file and its main feature is to convert WMA to mp3/wav or otherwise. But, if the file is already in mp3 format, you can just rip it again and set that bitrate thing to your chois. The other one is the CDX. I'm not sure if you have an idea on this. But, unfortunately, the files should come from the CD. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:45 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines
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I wood like to have it please. Tate Luck Operations Manager 104.9 The River 95.1 The River 92.7 Joy FM v (614) 413-9312 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jouie Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:39 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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Hi, I use switch for the first time today. It was great and so easy. Very blind friendly. Tate Luck Operations Manager 104.9 The River 95.1 The River 92.7 Joy FM v (614) 413-9312 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jouie Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:02 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Links? I'm not sure because my two unpopular/untraditional programs here came from my friends. I have an idea about where can you get them but, I will still make sure about that. One named switch. It's a small file and its main feature is to convert WMA to mp3/wav or otherwise. But, if the file is already in mp3 format, you can just rip it again and set that bitrate thing to your chois. The other one is the CDX. I'm not sure if you have an idea on this. But, unfortunately, the files should come from the CD. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:45 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web
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Have you searched for it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tate Luck Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:51 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi, I use switch for the first time today. It was great and so easy. Very blind friendly. Tate Luck Operations Manager 104.9 The River 95.1 The River 92.7 Joy FM v (614) 413-9312 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jouie Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:02 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Links? I'm not sure because my two unpopular/untraditional programs here came from my friends. I have an idea about where can you get them but, I will still make sure about that. One named switch. It's a small file and its main feature is to convert WMA to mp3/wav or otherwise. But, if the file is already in mp3 format, you can just rip it again and set that bitrate thing to your chois. The other one is the CDX. I'm not sure if you have an idea on this. But, unfortunately, the files should come from the CD. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:45 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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Yep and this is what I was hoping there was some sort of work around other then doing it right the first time:). -Original Message- From: Bruce Toews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:06 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Just be aware that if you convert an MP3 from one bit rate to antoher, you'll have less audio quality that if you'd just saved the file in the smaller bitrate int he first place, because that conversion will involve uncompressing and recompressing the MP3. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Jouie wrote: Links? I'm not sure because my two unpopular/untraditional programs here came from my friends. I have an idea about where can you get them but, I will still make sure about that. One named switch. It's a small file and its main feature is to convert WMA to mp3/wav or otherwise. But, if the file is already in mp3 format, you can just rip it again and set that bitrate thing to your chois. The other one is the CDX. I'm not sure if you have an idea on this. But, unfortunately, the files should come from the CD. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:45 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 3/21/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send
Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
It is free but some features won't work until you by the masters addition. kerry please visit my live journal at http://kerry123.livejournal.com and also call (1206-666-9672 Also check out my web site at http://mysite.verizon.net/vzer76h7 thanks. - Original Message - From: Tate Luck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I down loaded a program called wave pad. It came with it. Not shore if it is free. Tate Luck Operations Manager 104.9 The River 95.1 The River 92.7 Joy FM v (614) 413-9312 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jouie Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:52 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Have you searched for it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tate Luck Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:51 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi, I use switch for the first time today. It was great and so easy. Very blind friendly. Tate Luck Operations Manager 104.9 The River 95.1 The River 92.7 Joy FM v (614) 413-9312 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jouie Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:02 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Links? I'm not sure because my two unpopular/untraditional programs here came from my friends. I have an idea about where can you get them but, I will still make sure about that. One named switch. It's a small file and its main feature is to convert WMA to mp3/wav or otherwise. But, if the file is already in mp3 format, you can just rip it again and set that bitrate thing to your chois. The other one is the CDX. I'm not sure if you have an idea on this. But, unfortunately, the files should come from the CD. Jouie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:45 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Maybe you could just tell the list the name of the program, thus helping any interested listers who have yet to speak up? A direct link to a website is always good. Scott - Original Message - From: Jouie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I have here one, and totally free! E-mail me off list if you want to have a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:34 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another I am also interested any any tools that could do this going to convert to a higher as well as lower conversion. I know doing some of this can cause artifacts in the audio quality so a way to minimize this would be great. -Original Message- From: Scott Blanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
Without quality loss, no, there are no shortcuts. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Jim Ruby wrote: Yep and this is what I was hoping there was some sort of work around other then doing it right the first time:). -Original Message- From: Bruce Toews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:06 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Just be aware that if you convert an MP3 from one bit rate to antoher, you'll have less audio quality that if you'd just saved the file in the smaller bitrate int he first place, because that conversion will involve uncompressing and recompressing the MP3. Bruce ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
Scott, I have allot of MP3's in my laptop and I use to extract them to a smaller size. I use Switch program. before Switch is available on the website but now, it is not. If you want, I can send it off to you. Regards, Roden Zalameda RCZ Enterprise +63-927-541-9838 +63-921-769-1994 +63-922-556-4223 E mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype name: rodenzal yahoo Messenger ID: r112478 MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Support e mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this E-mail in error please notifies the sender immediately. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of virus. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This message contains information transmitted and deemed confidential by RCZ Enterprise. If you have received this message in error, please inform the sender for further action. Our Internet Gateway protects RCZ Enterprise and INTRACOM Philippines -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] dio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:32 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott __ _ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another
This might be an expensive solution, but Soundforge has something called Batch Converter. I think even Goldwave has something like that with the program! - Original Message - From: Scott Blanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: converting mp3 from one bitrate to another Hi folks, Forgive my ignorance about these things, but I am still new to the audio side of things. I've begun ripping my cd's to 320kbps mp3. Now, I want to be able to make smaller mp3's from these files, say 192kbps mp3's. I have winamp pro, Windows Media Player, and real player 10 on my system. Will any of these programs allow for the conversion? If not, is there a free program for changing bitrate? And again, if there isn't a free alternative, what is the best and of course, most accessible program. Thanks, Scott ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
