Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-10 Thread David Tanner
Yes, but you should know that if you plan on reading digital books from NLS 
on a Stream that most books come in at over 100 MB per book.  So, you really 
need at least a 1 gigabyte card to get much on it.  But, you can probably 
find 1 gigabyte SD cards for less than $20 at the neighborhood Wallgreens 
Drug store or about any place you can think of that sells memory cards.



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 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

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 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-10 Thread David Tanner
No, but it really would not make sense to add one and increase the price.



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 hi I would like to know does this unit have an fm radio?
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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-10 Thread David Tanner
Well, its' personal opinion. I guess.  And, remember that at this point 
there is the issue of converting the file type to something that more people 
can use like *.WAV and *.MP3.



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 Where in the world did someone get the idea that the stream does
 not record well enough for a podcast?

 Don Roberts

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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

 On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just
 ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



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 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
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 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example
 aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking
 of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in?
 Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my
 mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about
 it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are
 plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the
 reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit.
 The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will
 have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so
 they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there
 was no
 card in
 it.

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 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have
 one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.
 First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a
 tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to
 operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile),
 but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell
 me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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RE: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-10 Thread Ray's Home
I side with those who think the Stream isn't up to Podcast standards .
Then again, depends on the material, and I suppose a shortish piece
consisting simply of speech would be acceptable done with the Stream.

For better quality, easier on the ear, podcasts that might include
some music, then why not the PTR2 to take one example?

The stream is meant as a notetaker come conference recording machine
which is no doubt why it uses this peculiar, proprietorial compression
system.

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David Tanner


Well, its' personal opinion. I guess.  And, remember that at this
point
there is the issue of converting the file type to something that more
people
can use like *.WAV and *.MP3.



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Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Where in the world did someone get the idea that the stream does
 not record well enough for a podcast?

 Don Roberts

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 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

 On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just
 ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example
 aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking
 of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in?
 Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my
 mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about
 it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are
 plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the
 reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit.
 The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will
 have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so
 they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there
 was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have
 one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.
 First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a
 tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to
 operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile),
 but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell
 me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
No.
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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
It's recording capabilities are limited.  It's really meant to record notes 
and has an internal microphone as well as an external mic jack.
Where it excels as far as I'm concerned is it's ability to play audible 
files at variable speed.  It also needs no special software to copy files to 
it unlike similar units.

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From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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RE: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Judy W

It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just ment for basic
notes.

Judy



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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
exactly what one would call expensive are they.
Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dane Trethowan
IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just ment  
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
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 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on  
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah ok, well at that rate I think I'll take the Zoom as it does more of  
what I want but I can understand your needs in a player.

On 09/12/2007, at 3:19 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 It's recording capabilities are limited.  It's really meant to  
 record notes
 and has an internal microphone as well as an external mic jack.
 Where it excels as far as I'm concerned is it's ability to play  
 audible
 files at variable speed.  It also needs no special software to copy  
 files to
 it unlike similar units.

 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does  
 the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a  
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it,  
 the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial  
 on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but  
 just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't  
exactly what one would call expensive are they.
Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of  
getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the  
reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set  
on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little  
more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the  
Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty  
of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on  
them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit  
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have  
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they  
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no  
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,  
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,  
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate  
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me  
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?   
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
The model I have is called the Victor Reader Stream.  I'm not sure what the 
Extreme Reader is.

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 IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

 On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



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 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

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 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit is also 
very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have to buy 
one.
I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they aren't 
expensive.
It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no card in 
it.

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 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First, will this 
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it 
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate it?  If 
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just 
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me this, how 
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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Angel L Adorno
hi I would like to know does this unit have an fm radio?
thanks so much. 


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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Where in the world did someone get the idea that the stream does 
not record well enough for a podcast?

Don Roberts

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IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just 
 ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
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 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example 
 aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking 
 of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? 
 Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my 
 mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a 
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about 
 it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are 
 plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the 
 reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. 
 The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will 
 have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so 
 they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there 
 was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have 
 one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it. 
 First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a 
 tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to 
 operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), 
 but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell 
 me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Doc
Is this the same as the victor stream?

**
On the other hand, you have different fingers


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Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


It's recording capabilities are limited.  It's really meant to record notes 
and has an internal microphone as well as an external mic jack.
Where it excels as far as I'm concerned is it's ability to play audible 
files at variable speed.  It also needs no special software to copy files to 
it unlike similar units.

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
Ok the stream is the new one.  I don't know what features the older one had.
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 Sorry, perhaps I meant the Stream and not the Extreme.
 
 On 09/12/2007, at 4:01 AM, Dave McLean wrote:
 
 The model I have is called the Victor Reader Stream.  I'm not sure  
 what the
 Extreme Reader is.

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 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

 On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example  
 aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does  
 the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind  
 set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a  
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it,  
 the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are  
 plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews  
 on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The  
 unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but  
 just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
Yes it is the Stream I am talking about.
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 Is this the same as the victor stream?

 **
 On the other hand, you have different fingers


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 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:19 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 It's recording capabilities are limited.  It's really meant to record 
 notes
 and has an internal microphone as well as an external mic jack.
 Where it excels as far as I'm concerned is it's ability to play audible
 files at variable speed.  It also needs no special software to copy files 
 to
 it unlike similar units.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in? Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no
 card in
 it.

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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
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 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me
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 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Who are J and R?

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit is 
 also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no card in
 it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one, but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First, will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me this, 
 how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?  Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Dave McLean
J  R sells electronics.  Computers, audio, etc.
http://www.jandr.com


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 Who are J and R?

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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:17 AM
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 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit is
 also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no card 
 in
 it.

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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one, but 
 I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First, will 
 this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me this,
 how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?  Thanks.

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RE: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Kelly Ford
Folks wanting to learn more about the Stream can read all about it at
http://www.humanware.com/en-canada/support/victor_reader_stream.  The user
manual, frequently questions and more are available at this web address.

I just received mine and it is quite easy to learn and works well for what
it does. play audio



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J  R sells electronics.  Computers, audio, etc.
http://www.jandr.com


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 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit is
 also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no card 
 in
 it.

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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one, but 
 I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First, will 
 this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me this,
 how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?  Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Curtis Delzer
manual built in, with 1 key. the instructions are on the cd you get with it 
besides the 1 key, and lots of information provided. No card is provided 
unless you bought one with yours.
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From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: for those who have the victor reader


Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one, but I'm 
getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First, will this 
come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it 
somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate it?  If not 
then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just wondered if 
there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me this, how much music or 
about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?  Thanks.

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Re: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-08 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Oh, thank you.

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From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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J  R sells electronics.  Computers, audio, etc.
 http://www.jandr.com


 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:52 PM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Who are J and R?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit. The unit is
 also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will have to 
 buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so they 
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there was no card
 in
 it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have one, but
 I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.  First, will
 this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a tutorial on it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to operate it? 
 If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile), but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell me this,
 how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?  Thanks.

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