Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-17 Thread Gary Wood

Thanks, Rusty.
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From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



yes, mp3 files, wma files, wav files, etc etc etc.

Hth,
Rusty
 At 09:44 AM 6/15/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has 
sound

output?
a
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project 
has

sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can 
 slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you 
 start

 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others 
 I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets 
 written.

 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to 
 and

 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than 
 you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy 
 slower

 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and 
 see

 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest 
 speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll 
 have

 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why 
 are

 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever 
 name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, 
 though

 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type 
 cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I 
 suppose.


 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a 
friend.

Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love 
to

hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that 
there

are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or 
without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-17 Thread Gary Wood
That's right.  I just copied mine to the harddrive, using CDex, then used 
Nero to burn them onto a CD as MP3s.  I used ten of my disks.  I have over 
200 songs on my MP3 CD.  I think I'll sell the originals in a garage sale. 
Then I'll have more room to store more blank CD's, which will be burned, 
eventually.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Well, then we're all ready to go online or to a brick and morar store, buy
our blank CD/Rs and jewel cases, launch our burning program of choice, and
lay some good music down on a disc.  No harm done, indeed!
launch
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Daniel.  No problem.  Everything's fine.  There sure has been a lot of
discussion about this.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Gary,

I'm so sorry if it sounded as if I was snapping at you.  I was tired and
frustrated about something else last night.  But I honestly had become
puzzled as to why a couple of people were answering me after I asked just
one kind of question with so much basic information about CD/R recording
that I hadn't asked anything about.  I kept politely saying thanks, I 
knew

that but I'm sure others will appreciate this, etc., but no one seemed to
see that I was saying I knew everything but the answer to the particular
question that I was asking.  I just got annoyed after this kept 
happening.


anyway, as before, I'm sure someone benefited by hearing about all this
stuff for the first time, just as I did only some weeks ago on this list,
when I was actually asking those questions and receiving instruction.

Thanks again, and sorry if I was rude.
Daniel

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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I guess I shouldn't have.  I just thought I'd mention it, incase you
didn't
know.  Sorry about that.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I know that.  How come you're telling me?

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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though 
it

can
be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
output?
a
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD 
project

has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default 
speed

which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can
slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
start
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell
you
exactly where to look.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Chris.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I think I knew, but I was just 
trying to explain it, maybe not as well.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data too. 
It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser which 
decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just compress 
into a different way.  But we're drifting into a completely different 
realm of discussion.  Basically to make this whole thread a lot easier for 
everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom Maxel and 
other big names are good.  I would say to buy the largest capacity 
possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio content, 
if you're burning an audio cd.  If you're burning data such as mp3s or 
other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little bit.
I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max. 
Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only 
discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again. 
The reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units 
aren't able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs 
are easier read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best 
availability, I would go with cdr discs.  They're not very expensive and 
while you can only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good. 
Remember though, once it's written, it's written for good.  so make sure 
you have absolutely everything you want on the disc before burning.  It is 
possible to create what is called a multi-session disc which is where you 
can add more stuff to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data 
isn't able to be read quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you 
want on a disc all in one go.

i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here.





At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this 
helps.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has 
sound

output?
a
- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project 
has

sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you 
start

the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
exactly where to look.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than 
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy 
slower

rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Wood

MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it 
can

be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
output?
a
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
start
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
exactly where to look.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than 
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy 
slower

rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest 
speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll 
have

to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why 
are

there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever 
name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, 
though

sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type 
cd's,

though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Yardbird
I know that.  How come you're telling me?

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it
 can
 be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
 helps.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
 output?
 a
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
 projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
 has
 sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
 start
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
 you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
 slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest
 speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll
 have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why
 are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
 name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
 though
 sometimes

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Yardbird
Gary,

I'm so sorry if it sounded as if I was snapping at you.  I was tired and 
frustrated about something else last night.  But I honestly had become 
puzzled as to why a couple of people were answering me after I asked just 
one kind of question with so much basic information about CD/R recording 
that I hadn't asked anything about.  I kept politely saying thanks, I knew 
that but I'm sure others will appreciate this, etc., but no one seemed to 
see that I was saying I knew everything but the answer to the particular 
question that I was asking.  I just got annoyed after this kept happening.

anyway, as before, I'm sure someone benefited by hearing about all this 
stuff for the first time, just as I did only some weeks ago on this list, 
when I was actually asking those questions and receiving instruction.

Thanks again, and sorry if I was rude.
Daniel

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I guess I shouldn't have.  I just thought I'd mention it, incase you didn't
know.  Sorry about that.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I know that.  How come you're telling me?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it
 can
 be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
 helps.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
 output?
 a
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
 projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
 has
 sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can
 slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
 start
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others
 I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets
 written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to
 and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
 you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
 slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and
 see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Gomes

okay should I get the 74 minute cds or the 80 ones.



web site
www.rellek.com/stevegomes
phone 720-747-4990
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I guess I shouldn't have.  I just thought I'd mention it, incase you didn't 
know.  Sorry about that.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I know that.  How come you're telling me?

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it
can
be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
output?
a
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can 
slow

the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
start
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell 
you

exactly where to look.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others 
I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets 
written.

I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to 
and

the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it 
is?

I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and 
see

that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system 
or

burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest
speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll
have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why
are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Daniel.  No problem.  Everything's fine.  There sure has been a lot of 
discussion about this.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Gary,

I'm so sorry if it sounded as if I was snapping at you.  I was tired and
frustrated about something else last night.  But I honestly had become
puzzled as to why a couple of people were answering me after I asked just
one kind of question with so much basic information about CD/R recording
that I hadn't asked anything about.  I kept politely saying thanks, I knew
that but I'm sure others will appreciate this, etc., but no one seemed to
see that I was saying I knew everything but the answer to the particular
question that I was asking.  I just got annoyed after this kept happening.

anyway, as before, I'm sure someone benefited by hearing about all this
stuff for the first time, just as I did only some weeks ago on this list,
when I was actually asking those questions and receiving instruction.

Thanks again, and sorry if I was rude.
Daniel

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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I guess I shouldn't have.  I just thought I'd mention it, incase you 
didn't

know.  Sorry about that.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I know that.  How come you're telling me?

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it
can
be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
output?
a
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can
slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
start
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell 
you

exactly where to look.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others
I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets
written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to
and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it 
is?

I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread russell Bourgoin

yes, mp3 files, wma files, wav files, etc etc etc.

Hth,
Rusty
 At 09:44 AM 6/15/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has sound
output?
a
- Original Message -
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you start
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread hank smith

I think he was refering to data files that can be played in a
stereo
am I assuming correctly?
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- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



yes, mp3 files, wma files, wav files, etc etc etc.

Hth,
Rusty
 At 09:44 AM 6/15/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has 
sound

output?
a
- Original Message -
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project 
has

sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can 
 slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you 
 start

 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others 
 I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets 
 written.

 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to 
 and

 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than 
 you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy 
 slower

 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and 
 see

 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest 
 speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll 
 have

 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why 
 are

 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever 
 name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, 
 though

 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type 
 cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I 
 suppose.


 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a 
friend.

Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love 
to

hear

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Kevin Lloyd
I'd recommend 80 minutes.  Firstly, if you're copying modern CD's many are
over 74 minutes long and secondly, if you're compiling MP3 discs, you can
get more music on them - possibly as much as another 10 tracks.

Kevin
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 okay should I get the 74 minute cds or the 80 ones.



 web site
 www.rellek.com/stevegomes
 phone 720-747-4990
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I guess I shouldn't have.  I just thought I'd mention it, incase you
didn't
 know.  Sorry about that.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
 I know that.  How come you're telling me?
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though
it
  can
  be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope
this
  helps.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
 I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
 sound
  output?
  a
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
  projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD
project
  has
  sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default
speed
  which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can
  slow
  the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
  start
  the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell
  you
  exactly where to look.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others
  I've
  tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets
  written.
  I
  think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to
  and
  the
  CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it
  is?
  I'm
  sure I'm not understanding something.
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x
than
  you
  need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
  slower
  rated cdr's and burn slower.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and
  see
  that
  there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
  understand
  the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
  capacity.
  But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive
is
  rated
  at
  a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm
short-changing
  myself
  or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-16 Thread Yardbird
Well, then we're all ready to go online or to a brick and morar store, buy 
our blank CD/Rs and jewel cases, launch our burning program of choice, and 
lay some good music down on a disc.  No harm done, indeed!
launch
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Daniel.  No problem.  Everything's fine.  There sure has been a lot of
discussion about this.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Gary,

 I'm so sorry if it sounded as if I was snapping at you.  I was tired and
 frustrated about something else last night.  But I honestly had become
 puzzled as to why a couple of people were answering me after I asked just
 one kind of question with so much basic information about CD/R recording
 that I hadn't asked anything about.  I kept politely saying thanks, I knew
 that but I'm sure others will appreciate this, etc., but no one seemed to
 see that I was saying I knew everything but the answer to the particular
 question that I was asking.  I just got annoyed after this kept happening.

 anyway, as before, I'm sure someone benefited by hearing about all this
 stuff for the first time, just as I did only some weeks ago on this list,
 when I was actually asking those questions and receiving instruction.

 Thanks again, and sorry if I was rude.
 Daniel

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:03 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I guess I shouldn't have.  I just thought I'd mention it, incase you
 didn't
 know.  Sorry about that.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I know that.  How come you're telling me?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it
 can
 be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
 helps.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
 output?
 a
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
 projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
 has
 sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can
 slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
 start
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell
 you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others
 I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets
 written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to
 and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it
 is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Wood

I mean a CD burning project.  Sorry if I wasn't more clear about that.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Which project is done?  I'm not sure what you mean.  Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


project done.  I've heard that for audio CD's, it's best to use the slower
speeds, but it doesn't make as much of a difference with burning data 
CD's.

Hope this helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
to

sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my 
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has 
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed 
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow 
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you start 
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you 
exactly where to look.


- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. 
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and 
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is? 
I'm

sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
rated

at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
to

sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
for?

1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
buy?


Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
$20

U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
so-called

music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
and

also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows 
differently,

please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Wood
No, I didn't mean that.  I meant that that's where I can go if I choose to, 
but I usually choose the fastest speed, and it seems to be all right for me.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Gary, you mean that you prefer to always record your CDs at the 1x speed?
If so, why?

thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


There's a place in Nero where you can control the write speed.  There's a
menu that I see.  My fastest speed is 48X, so I arrow down to the others
until I get down to 1X.  Hope this helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. 
I

think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
rated

at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
for?

1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
buy?


Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
$20

U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
so-called

music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
and

also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows 
differently,

please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Wood
Well like we stated, use the speed that's right for you.  If your CD's sound 
okay, stay with that.  It doesn't hurt to check things out.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Okay.  don't worry, I'll find where you can designate burn speed.  I just
wish there were actually some explanation somewhere on this topic.  but 
for
that, I'd have to buy something like Burning CDs for Dummies, scan it 
with

Open Book or submit it to be recorded, and finally learn the sort of thing
I'm interested in learning.  Oh, well.  Maybe there's a tidbit of
explanation in the Nero help files, if that isn't too much to hope for.
.inomwehere
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed 
which
would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the 
burn

down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn
in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly 
where

to look.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. 
I

think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
rated

at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
for?

1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
buy?


Thanks.
*ROM
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
$20

U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
so-called

music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
and

also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Wood
I think Gary said that he had a 16X CD, and he burned it at 24X with no 
problems, but it didn't work at 40X.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

could you please explain what you mean?  Are you saying, you used a blank 
CD

that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that
turned out all right.  But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x,
and that didn't work in some way?  If I have it backward, please correct 
me

so that I can understand what you're describing.

Thanks.
to record - Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
rated

at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
for?

1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
buy?


Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
$20

U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
so-called

music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
and

also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows 
differently,

please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Skarstad
Yeah just to clarify, Nero refers to your CD as a compilation, and Easy CD 
Creator calls it a project.  Same exact thing though.



,At 01:28 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:

I mean a CD burning project.  Sorry if I wasn't more clear about that.
- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Which project is done?  I'm not sure what you mean.  Thanks.

- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


project done.  I've heard that for audio CD's, it's best to use the slower
speeds, but it doesn't make as much of a difference with burning data CD's.
Hope this helps.
- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Yardbird
I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has sound 
output?
a
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you start
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Yardbird
Ah, okay.  I've been learning to use Nero, and only knew their terminology. 
Wouldn't it be interesting if all these programs referred to things by the 
same terms?  Too much to ask, I guess.  :-)

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Yeah just to clarify, Nero refers to your CD as a compilation, and Easy CD
Creator calls it a project.  Same exact thing though.


,At 01:28 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
I mean a CD burning project.  Sorry if I wasn't more clear about that.
- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Which project is done?  I'm not sure what you mean.  Thanks.

- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


project done.  I've heard that for audio CD's, it's best to use the slower
speeds, but it doesn't make as much of a difference with burning data 
CD's.
Hope this helps.
- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows 
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Wood
An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this 
helps.
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has 
sound

output?
a
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project 
has

sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you 
start

the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
exactly where to look.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love 
to

hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Yardbird
ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it can 
be listened to, unlike most data.  I see.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
 output?
 a
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
 projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
 has
 sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
 start
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Yardbird
Hi Christohpher,

Let me reassure you that I know what you're talking about below, and that I 
of course understand that anything encoded on a CD, compressed or not, is 
literally data.  I was just talking about the specific language being used 
at the moment to distinguish conventional music CDs from others.  Sorry if I 
gave you the impression that I was so confused.  Everything's fine, and 
thanks for the explanations.
Danny

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data
too.  It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser
which decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just
compress into a different way.  But we're drifting into a completely
different realm of discussion.  Basically to make this whole thread a lot
easier for everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom
Maxel and other big names are good.  I would say to buy the largest
capacity possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio
content, if you're burning an audio cd.  If you're burning data such as
mp3s or other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little 
bit.
I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max.
Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only
discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again.  The
reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units aren't
able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs are easier
read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best availability,
I would go with cdr discs.  They're not very expensive and while you can
only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good.  Remember though,
once it's written, it's written for good.  so make sure you have absolutely
everything you want on the disc before burning.  It is possible to create
what is called a multi-session disc which is where you can add more stuff
to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data isn't able to be read
quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you want on a disc all in
one go.
i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here.





At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this 
helps.
- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has 
sound
output?
a
- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project 
has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you 
start
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
exactly where to look.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Skarstad
heheh, hey, that's cool. but let's keep it to Chris ok?  The only one 
allowed to call me Christopher is my mom, and that's only when I'm in 
trouble. hehehe.

Glad you understand everything a little better.  Glad I could help.


At 12:14 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote:

Hi Christohpher,

Let me reassure you that I know what you're talking about below, and that I
of course understand that anything encoded on a CD, compressed or not, is
literally data.  I was just talking about the specific language being used
at the moment to distinguish conventional music CDs from others.  Sorry if I
gave you the impression that I was so confused.  Everything's fine, and
thanks for the explanations.
Danny

- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data
too.  It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser
which decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just
compress into a different way.  But we're drifting into a completely
different realm of discussion.  Basically to make this whole thread a lot
easier for everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom
Maxel and other big names are good.  I would say to buy the largest
capacity possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio
content, if you're burning an audio cd.  If you're burning data such as
mp3s or other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little
bit.
I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max.
Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only
discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again.  The
reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units aren't
able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs are easier
read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best availability,
I would go with cdr discs.  They're not very expensive and while you can
only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good.  Remember though,
once it's written, it's written for good.  so make sure you have absolutely
everything you want on the disc before burning.  It is possible to create
what is called a multi-session disc which is where you can add more stuff
to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data isn't able to be read
quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you want on a disc all in
one go.
i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here.





At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
helps.
- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
sound
output?
a
- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
has
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow
the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you
start
the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you
exactly where to look.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Yardbird
Chris,
I was teasing you.  I figured you use Chris in the spirit of independence 
and manhood, and that only Mom, when angry, uses the full name.  I once 
explained something like this about the opposite-- guys like me in my 
generation deliberately began to use our full names when we left home and 
grew up, because we didn't want to be the nicknamed kids of our childhood 
anymore.  I know it seems like the opposite, Chris, but in a way it's the 
same thing.  So when I sign myself as Daniel, I'm not being formal or 
something.  It's really what my friends call me.  Dan would bbe a totally 
different kind of guy.

Anyway, as I said, I was clear about all that stuff.  But the upside of your 
being generous with these important basic things (like, use a CD/R, not a 
CD/RW, if you want no trouble playing a CD you burn, is stuff everyone needs 
to know, and you're getting it out there.  That's what it's all about. 
sharing knowledge.

Daniel
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


heheh, hey, that's cool. but let's keep it to Chris ok?  The only one
allowed to call me Christopher is my mom, and that's only when I'm in
trouble. hehehe.
Glad you understand everything a little better.  Glad I could help.


At 12:14 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
Hi Christohpher,

Let me reassure you that I know what you're talking about below, and that I
of course understand that anything encoded on a CD, compressed or not, is
literally data.  I was just talking about the specific language being used
at the moment to distinguish conventional music CDs from others.  Sorry if 
I
gave you the impression that I was so confused.  Everything's fine, and
thanks for the explanations.
Danny

- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data
too.  It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser
which decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just
compress into a different way.  But we're drifting into a completely
different realm of discussion.  Basically to make this whole thread a lot
easier for everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom
Maxel and other big names are good.  I would say to buy the largest
capacity possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio
content, if you're burning an audio cd.  If you're burning data such as
mp3s or other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little
bit.
I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max.
Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only
discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again.  The
reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units aren't
able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs are easier
read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best availability,
I would go with cdr discs.  They're not very expensive and while you can
only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good.  Remember though,
once it's written, it's written for good.  so make sure you have absolutely
everything you want on the disc before burning.  It is possible to create
what is called a multi-session disc which is where you can add more stuff
to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data isn't able to be read
quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you want on a disc all in
one go.
i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here.





At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
 An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD.  Hope this
 helps.
 - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
 I thought that data CDs were silent.  Is there a kind of data that has
 sound
 output?
 a
 - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
 Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my
 projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project
 has
 sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
 - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-15 Thread Wil James
When you are in the burn dialog, there is a check box to check for data
verfication.  In older versions of Nero, the disc would eject, then the
door would close and check the disc for errors.  In the latest versions,
you can tell if it is checking the disc by the intensity of the drive's
fan.  That is a very handy feature.  Yes, it does take more time to
complete, but you know if you have a coaster or not right away.


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-Original Message-
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 6/15/05 2:31:23 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

Hi Tim.  I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt
my 
projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD
project has 
sounded good.  I don't think there were any errors.
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default
speed 
 which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you
can slow 
 the burn down.  Look through all of the options carefully before
you start 
 the burn in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could
tell you 
 exactly where to look.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the
others I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets
written. 
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults
to and 
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how
it is? 
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x
than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others,
and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as
its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive
is 
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm
short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my
system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest
speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if
I'll have 
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?
Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all
intended 
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's
best to 
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how
many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between
$10 and 
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or
whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many
type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Gary Wood
The rougher side should be on top, and the smoothe side should be on the 
bottom.
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Hutson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side to 
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am VERY 
new at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little 
trouble.

Thanks for your help.
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any old
data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or a
stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a spindle,
be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear plastic
one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak one
out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?  If
you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program with
which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that 
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I understand 
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. 
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at 
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself 
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or 
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? 
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to 
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are 
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for? 
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone understand 
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Tim Grady
If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you 
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower 
rated cdr's and burn slower.


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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see 
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I 
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its 
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated 
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing 
myself

or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone 
understand

how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of 
those

are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. 
Now

I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there 
are

a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that 
most

people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Jerry Richer
 Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
 All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced
as the one on the business side.  The ridge edge could be curved or square.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've 
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I 
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the 
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?  I'm 
sure I'm not understanding something.


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From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
What do you mean by a new CD?
s
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
 All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced
as the one on the business side.  The ridge edge could be curved or square.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Clifford Blackwell
I don't know about Nero, but with Easy CD Creater, you can choose the
write speed.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 8:52:01 AM 
But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've

tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I 
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the 
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is? 
I'm 
sure I'm not understanding something.


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From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and
see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system
or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest
speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll
have to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why
are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many
of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes
that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc
Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Clifford Blackwell
You are, in some part, witnessing the advance of technology. 
Originally, cd writers couldn't burn at great speed.  As burners
developed higher abilities, media manufacturers developed media to keep
up.  However, there were all those older burners out there that couldn't
take advantage of the higher speeds.  So you wind up with a highly
segmented marketplace trying to serve lots of differing needs.

You can always burn at a slower speed than the maximum of your burner
so long as the medium will support that speed.  In fact, I think lots of
folks might recommend burning, particularly music, at less than the
higher speed to avoid errors.

Given a 1x burn speed you won't spend more than 80 minutes waiting for
your project to be done, but you can improve on that with your
combination of burning write speed and cd speed capacity.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 1:19:13 AM 
I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that 
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand 
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity. 
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated at 
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself 
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or 
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?

Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to 
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are

there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for? 
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand 
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
Oh.  I must look carefully at the settings and preferences.  If I can find 
them.  Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I don't know about Nero, but with Easy CD Creater, you can choose the
write speed.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 8:52:01 AM 
But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've

tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and
see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system
or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest
speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll
have to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why
are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many
of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes
that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc
Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Skarstad
Actually you can choose what speed the cd burns in Nero. You do this when 
you actually burn the cd.
It's in the options. when in doubt, check the options because the setting 
you want is probably there.  as for maximum burning speed, you'll just have 
to experiment a bit.  The default setting is usually best though.




At 08:52 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:

But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?  I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message -
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Skarstad

A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes?


At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:

What do you mean by a new CD?
s
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 Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
 All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Bruce Toews
With CDRWIn, you can choose the write speed, or you can have the program 
choose the maximum speed the media and writer will support and use that.

Bruce

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Clifford Blackwell wrote:


I don't know about Nero, but with Easy CD Creater, you can choose the
write speed.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 8:52:01 AM 

But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've

tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message -
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and

see

that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is

rated

at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system

or

burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest

speed?

Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll

have to

sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why

are

there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended

for?

1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to

buy?


Thanks.
*ROM
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many

of

those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and

$20

U.S.

- Original Message -
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever

name

brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,

though

sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that

so-called

music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type

cd's,

though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I

suppose.


Hope this helps.
Rusty

At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS

and

also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.

While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a

friend.

Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love

to

hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that

there

are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or

without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like

a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes

that

most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm

under

the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows

differently,

please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc

Advisor:


SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Skarstad
I would say if you're doing something and it works for you, keep doing 
it.  Try not to over-think this.



At 09:15 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:

Let's see.  So you're saying that recording at 1x is a one-to-one ratio,
same as straight cassette recording (not duping at double speed).

So if the maximum speed of most new drives is 52x, is there some agreed-upon
slower write speed that is considered just slow enough to be more prudent?
The smart person uses 32x discs, or 48x discs, or something?  Just looking
for some idea of how people approach this.

Or, if you just record at maximum speed, as I've done a number of times by
now, with no perceptible glitches in the resulting music, then it's okay,
and ought to generally be okay?  it all sounds kind of abstract to me, so
far...

Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


You are, in some part, witnessing the advance of technology.
Originally, cd writers couldn't burn at great speed.  As burners
developed higher abilities, media manufacturers developed media to keep
up.  However, there were all those older burners out there that couldn't
take advantage of the higher speeds.  So you wind up with a highly
segmented marketplace trying to serve lots of differing needs.

You can always burn at a slower speed than the maximum of your burner
so long as the medium will support that speed.  In fact, I think lots of
folks might recommend burning, particularly music, at less than the
higher speed to avoid errors.

Given a 1x burn speed you won't spend more than 80 minutes waiting for
your project to be done, but you can improve on that with your
combination of burning write speed and cd speed capacity.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 1:19:13 AM 
I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?

Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are

there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message -
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
U.S.

- Original Message -
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
Chris,
I'm asking for informed explanations to reasonable questions.  If that isn't 
to your taste, fine.  But I'm not having a problem  Just seeking 
information.  Thanks for understanding.
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From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I would say if you're doing something and it works for you, keep doing
it.  Try not to over-think this.


At 09:15 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
Let's see.  So you're saying that recording at 1x is a one-to-one ratio,
same as straight cassette recording (not duping at double speed).

So if the maximum speed of most new drives is 52x, is there some 
agreed-upon
slower write speed that is considered just slow enough to be more prudent?
The smart person uses 32x discs, or 48x discs, or something?  Just looking
for some idea of how people approach this.

Or, if you just record at maximum speed, as I've done a number of times by
now, with no perceptible glitches in the resulting music, then it's okay,
and ought to generally be okay?  it all sounds kind of abstract to me, so
far...

Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


You are, in some part, witnessing the advance of technology.
Originally, cd writers couldn't burn at great speed.  As burners
developed higher abilities, media manufacturers developed media to keep
up.  However, there were all those older burners out there that couldn't
take advantage of the higher speeds.  So you wind up with a highly
segmented marketplace trying to serve lots of differing needs.

You can always burn at a slower speed than the maximum of your burner
so long as the medium will support that speed.  In fact, I think lots of
folks might recommend burning, particularly music, at less than the
higher speed to avoid errors.

Given a 1x burn speed you won't spend more than 80 minutes waiting for
your project to be done, but you can improve on that with your
combination of burning write speed and cd speed capacity.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 1:19:13 AM 
I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?

Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are

there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message -
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
U.S.

- Original Message -
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  Hi,
 
  I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
  brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
  sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
  music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
  though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.
 
  Hope this helps.
  Rusty
   At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While
 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
  Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there are
 a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.
 
 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.
 
 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
I see.  Well, I still have more exploring of the Nero interface to do. 
Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Actually you can choose what speed the cd burns in Nero. You do this when
you actually burn the cd.
It's in the options. when in doubt, check the options because the setting
you want is probably there.  as for maximum burning speed, you'll just have
to experiment a bit.  The default setting is usually best though.



At 08:52 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?  I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message -
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
  that
  there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
  understand
  the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
  capacity.
  But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
  rated
  at
  a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
  myself
  or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
  burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
  Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
  to
  sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
  there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
  for?
  1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
  understand
  how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
  buy?
 
  Thanks.
  *ROM
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
  those
  are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
  $20
  U.S.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
  brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
  sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
  so-called
  music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
  though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.
 
  Hope this helps.
  Rusty
   At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
 are
 a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.
 
 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
 most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.
 
 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
 the
 impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows 
 differently,
 please say.
 
 thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:
 
 SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]
 
 Daniel
 
 
 
 
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
I guess you don't see why I asked?  The man said new CDs have this ridge. 
if you think that's a silly question, fine.  But it still doesn't make sense 
to me.  If it does to you, then explain why a blank CD I'm just taking out 
of its pack should have a ridge, but one that I've already used would not 
have a ridge, because it isn't new any more?  Or does new bmean 
manufactured after a certain date, when the ridge was addedas an industry 
standard?  Or..?honestly.  I'm just asking for clarification so I can 
understand this feature and make use of it as a tactile guide.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes?


At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
What do you mean by a new CD?
s
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  Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
  All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced
as the one on the business side.  The ridge edge could be curved or square.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
As the subject line says, it's CD/Rs that I'm asking about, not CD/RWs.  I 
wouldn't want to confuse the two if there happened to be some difference in 
the way things worked depending on which was being used.  Thank you.

From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


With CDRWIn, you can choose the write speed, or you can have the program
choose the maximum speed the media and writer will support and use that.
Bruce

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Clifford Blackwell wrote:

 I don't know about Nero, but with Easy CD Creater, you can choose the
 write speed.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 8:52:01 AM 
 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've

 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.
 I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than
 you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy
 slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and
 see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
 rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system
 or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest
 speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll
 have to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why
 are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
 for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
 buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many
 of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
 $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
 name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
 though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
 so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
 cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
 suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
 While
 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
 friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
 to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
 there
 are
 a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
 without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
 a
 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.

 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes
 that
 most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
 under
 the
 impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
 differently,
 please say.

 thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc
 Advisor:

 SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

 Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread ron winstanley
Hi, I purchased a block of 50 cd's and the same quantity of plastic sleeves 
from PC-world and it approximated to 38p each. They also had the slimline 
cases at a reasonable cost.

Ron
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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:27 AM
Subject: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to 
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are 
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without 
jewel

boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under 
the

impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread russell Bourgoin

Hi,

In nero 6.6 you get to choose the burning speed.  One of the 
options is default, I think, but I know you can choose to burn slower than 
the default for the disc media.


Rusty


But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?  I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message -
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Gary Wood
Well with the faster write speeds, it doesn't take as long to get your 
project done.  I've heard that for audio CD's, it's best to use the slower 
speeds, but it doesn't make as much of a difference with burning data CD's. 
Hope this helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see 
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I 
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its 
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated 
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing 
myself

or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone 
understand

how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of 
those

are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. 
Now

I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there 
are

a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that 
most

people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Gary Wood
There's a place in Nero where you can control the write speed.  There's a 
menu that I see.  My fastest speed is 48X, so I arrow down to the others 
until I get down to 1X.  Hope this helps.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and 
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is? 
I'm

sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
to

sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Gary Wood
Well if your CD plays in your player after burning at the fastest speed, 
that'll be good for you.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Let's see.  So you're saying that recording at 1x is a one-to-one ratio,
same as straight cassette recording (not duping at double speed).

So if the maximum speed of most new drives is 52x, is there some 
agreed-upon

slower write speed that is considered just slow enough to be more prudent?
The smart person uses 32x discs, or 48x discs, or something?  Just looking
for some idea of how people approach this.

Or, if you just record at maximum speed, as I've done a number of times by
now, with no perceptible glitches in the resulting music, then it's okay,
and ought to generally be okay?  it all sounds kind of abstract to me, so
far...

Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


You are, in some part, witnessing the advance of technology.
Originally, cd writers couldn't burn at great speed.  As burners
developed higher abilities, media manufacturers developed media to keep
up.  However, there were all those older burners out there that couldn't
take advantage of the higher speeds.  So you wind up with a highly
segmented marketplace trying to serve lots of differing needs.

You can always burn at a slower speed than the maximum of your burner
so long as the medium will support that speed.  In fact, I think lots of
folks might recommend burning, particularly music, at less than the
higher speed to avoid errors.

Given a 1x burn speed you won't spend more than 80 minutes waiting for
your project to be done, but you can improve on that with your
combination of burning write speed and cd speed capacity.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 1:19:13 AM 

I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
rated at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?

Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
to
sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are

there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
$20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever

name

brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,

though

sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that

so-called

music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type

cd's,

though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I

suppose.


Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS

and

also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.

While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.

Now

I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love

to

hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that

there are

a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or

without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like

a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that

most

people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm

under

the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows

differently,

please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
Thanks.  I've got Nero v. 6, which may or may not have the same options in 
this regard.  I'll check.
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From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Hi,

 In nero 6.6 you get to choose the burning speed.  One of the
options is default, I think, but I know you can choose to burn slower than
the default for the disc media.

Rusty

But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?  I'm
sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message -
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
  that
  there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
  understand
  the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
  capacity.
  But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
  rated
  at
  a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
  myself
  or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
  burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
  Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
  to
  sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
  there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
  for?
  1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
  understand
  how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
  buy?
 
  Thanks.
  *ROM
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
  those
  are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
  $20
  U.S.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
  brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
  sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
  so-called
  music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
  though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.
 
  Hope this helps.
  Rusty
   At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
 are
 a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.
 
 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
 most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.
 
 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
 the
 impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows 
 differently,
 please say.
 
 thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:
 
 SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]
 
 Daniel
 
 
 
 
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Tim Grady
Sure you get to choose speed.  Most people just take the default speed which 
would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn 
down.  Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn 
in Nero.  I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where 
to look.


- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and 
the
CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is? 
I'm

sure I'm not understanding something.


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
rated cdr's and burn slower.

- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
myself
or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
to

sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
understand
how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
those
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
Gary, you mean that you prefer to always record your CDs at the 1x speed? 
If so, why?

thanks.
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From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


There's a place in Nero where you can control the write speed.  There's a
menu that I see.  My fastest speed is 48X, so I arrow down to the others
until I get down to 1X.  Hope this helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've
 tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written.  I
 think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and
 the
 CD drive is capable of, or something like that.  Isn't this how it is?
 I'm
 sure I'm not understanding something.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
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 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Clifford Blackwell
The ridge has been there and remains whether the disk has been used or
not.  I think the reference to new was directed at how a cd sits in a
jewel case.  An unopened or unused cd sits in the jewel case on a small
spindle with the business side or ridged side down.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 10:04:24 AM 
I guess you don't see why I asked?  The man said new CDs have this
ridge. 
if you think that's a silly question, fine.  But it still doesn't make
sense 
to me.  If it does to you, then explain why a blank CD I'm just taking
out 
of its pack should have a ridge, but one that I've already used would
not 
have a ridge, because it isn't new any more?  Or does new bmean 
manufactured after a certain date, when the ridge was addedas an
industry 
standard?  Or..?honestly.  I'm just asking for clarification so I can 
understand this feature and make use of it as a tactile guide.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes?


At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
What do you mean by a new CD?
s
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush
with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
  All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the
business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as
pronounced
as the one on the business side.  The ridge edge could be curved or
square.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
ah. I see.  Got it.  thanks.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


The ridge has been there and remains whether the disk has been used or
not.  I think the reference to new was directed at how a cd sits in a
jewel case.  An unopened or unused cd sits in the jewel case on a small
spindle with the business side or ridged side down.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 10:04:24 AM 
I guess you don't see why I asked?  The man said new CDs have this
ridge. 
if you think that's a silly question, fine.  But it still doesn't make
sense 
to me.  If it does to you, then explain why a blank CD I'm just taking
out 
of its pack should have a ridge, but one that I've already used would
not 
have a ridge, because it isn't new any more?  Or does new bmean 
manufactured after a certain date, when the ridge was addedas an
industry 
standard?  Or..?honestly.  I'm just asking for clarification so I can 
understand this feature and make use of it as a tactile guide.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes?


At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
What do you mean by a new CD?
s
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush
with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
  All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the
business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as
pronounced
as the one on the business side.  The ridge edge could be curved or
square.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Skarstad

Right, the ridge is there wether or not the disc is used or not.
Usually like i said yesterday, the side you want to record on is facing 
straight up. so when you take a cd off the spindle or take it out of the 
jewel case if that's how they're package, do not turn the disc over to the 
other side.  Just put your disc in the drive, prepare your cd to burn and 
just use the default setting.

You'll be jusst fine.
As far as some cd's having ridges, I suppose it all depends on the brand of 
cd itself.  But like I said, burning the disc doesn't cause any actual 
physical change to the outside of the disc.  So don't let the term burning 
trip you up. The burning process does change the cd because obviously it 
has to add data to it but you'd never be able to tel just by feeling 
it.  The only way to know if a disc has been burned or not is to actually 
place it in the drive and check it out for yourself, or in the case of a cd 
you know is blank, then you know.









At 10:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:

The ridge has been there and remains whether the disk has been used or
not.  I think the reference to new was directed at how a cd sits in a
jewel case.  An unopened or unused cd sits in the jewel case on a small
spindle with the business side or ridged side down.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 10:04:24 AM 
I guess you don't see why I asked?  The man said new CDs have this
ridge.
if you think that's a silly question, fine.  But it still doesn't make
sense
to me.  If it does to you, then explain why a blank CD I'm just taking
out
of its pack should have a ridge, but one that I've already used would
not
have a ridge, because it isn't new any more?  Or does new bmean
manufactured after a certain date, when the ridge was addedas an
industry
standard?  Or..?honestly.  I'm just asking for clarification so I can
understand this feature and make use of it as a tactile guide.

- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes?


At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
What do you mean by a new CD?
s
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  Daniel!  I was thinking of a new CD.  The business side is flush
with
the jewel case, the label side is showing.
  All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the
business
side.  The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as
pronounced
as the one on the business side.  The ridge edge could be curved or
square.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Gary Petraccaro

I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you 
need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower 
rated cdr's and burn slower.


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From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see 
that
there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I 
understand
the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its 
capacity.
But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated 
at
a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing 
myself

or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have 
to

sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone 
understand

how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

Thanks.
*ROM
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of 
those

are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
U.S.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. 
Now

I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there 
are

a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that 
most

people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
Hi,

could you please explain what you mean?  Are you saying, you used a blank CD 
that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that 
turned out all right.  But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x, 
and that didn't work in some way?  If I have it backward, please correct me 
so that I can understand what you're describing.

Thanks.
to record - Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often.

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Jerry Richer
 Let me restate this.  All CDs that I have ever seen have a ridge on the
business side about an inch out from the hole in the center.  The ridge has
either a curved or square edge.  The other side sometimes has a ridge also
but it is no where near as pronounced as the one on the business side.  I
always feel for this ridge to determine how to put the CD into the CD player
or recorder.
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2005-06-14 Thread Jerry Richer
 By new CD I mean one that just came from the store and hasn't been
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Skarstad
I think you have it backwards.   Most of the cdr discs out today are rated 
for at least 16 x speed and up.  But some of them are only able to go up to 
a certain burn speed  so if you try to record with 2 fast of a speed for 
them, it doesn't work.  It sounds to me like you've burned a few discs 
before and you have a setting that works for you.  So, stick to what works 
best and keep it easy for yourself.


At 01:47 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote:

Hi,

could you please explain what you mean?  Are you saying, you used a blank CD
that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that
turned out all right.  But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x,
and that didn't work in some way?  If I have it backward, please correct me
so that I can understand what you're describing.

Thanks.
to record - Original Message -
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often.

- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
 need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
 rated cdr's and burn slower.

 - Original Message -
 From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
 that
 there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
 understand
 the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
 capacity.
 But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated
 at
 a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
 myself
 or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
 burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
 Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
 to
 sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
 there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended for?
 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
 understand
 how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy?

 Thanks.
 *ROM
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
 those
 are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20
 U.S.

 - Original Message -
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Yardbird
Well, I give up.  The truth is, I have a pretty new computer with a drive 
that I think is rated at 52x, and the first CDs a friend gave me to start 
learning to burn were 52x as well, and everything worked fine.  I wasn't 
thinking about this stuff until I began to look online for blank CDs and saw 
that there are all these different ratings for them.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think you have it backwards.   Most of the cdr discs out today are rated
for at least 16 x speed and up.  But some of them are only able to go up to
a certain burn speed  so if you try to record with 2 fast of a speed for
them, it doesn't work.  It sounds to me like you've burned a few discs
before and you have a setting that works for you.  So, stick to what works
best and keep it easy for yourself.

At 01:47 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
Hi,

could you please explain what you mean?  Are you saying, you used a blank 
CD
that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that
turned out all right.  But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x,
and that didn't work in some way?  If I have it backward, please correct me
so that I can understand what you're describing.

Thanks.
to record - Original Message -
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often.

- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
  need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
  rated cdr's and burn slower.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
  that
  there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
  understand
  the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
  capacity.
  But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is 
  rated
  at
  a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
  myself
  or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
  burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
  Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
  to
  sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
  there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended 
  for?
  1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
  understand
  how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to 
  buy?
 
  Thanks.
  *ROM
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
  those
  are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and 
  $20
  U.S.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
  brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
  sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that 
  so-called
  music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
  though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.
 
  Hope this helps.
  Rusty
   At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
 While
 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love 
 to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
 are
 a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.
 
 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
 most
 people I I

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Skarstad

Hi
Ok Dan, in that case, if the first CDS you were given were rated at 52 x 
and your burner goes up to 52x, then this is quite simple.  Get more discs 
that are rated at 52x.  I personally like to use the 750 mb, 80 minute 
cds.  You'll know if these are the right ones if you have someone sighted 
check for you on the label.
Those are most definitely the ones you want.  So, go buy those, burn at the 
default setting and sit back and relax.




At 06:02 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote:

Well, I give up.  The truth is, I have a pretty new computer with a drive
that I think is rated at 52x, and the first CDs a friend gave me to start
learning to burn were 52x as well, and everything worked fine.  I wasn't
thinking about this stuff until I began to look online for blank CDs and saw
that there are all these different ratings for them.

- Original Message -
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I think you have it backwards.   Most of the cdr discs out today are rated
for at least 16 x speed and up.  But some of them are only able to go up to
a certain burn speed  so if you try to record with 2 fast of a speed for
them, it doesn't work.  It sounds to me like you've burned a few discs
before and you have a setting that works for you.  So, stick to what works
best and keep it easy for yourself.

At 01:47 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
Hi,

could you please explain what you mean?  Are you saying, you used a blank
CD
that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that
turned out all right.  But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x,
and that didn't work in some way?  If I have it backward, please correct me
so that I can understand what you're describing.

Thanks.
to record - Original Message -
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often.

- Original Message -
From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


  If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you
  need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower
  rated cdr's and burn slower.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see
  that
  there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there.  I
  understand
  the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its
  capacity.
  But what about the write speed?  I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is
  rated
  at
  a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing
  myself
  or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or
  burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed?
  Does it particularly matter?  If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have
  to
  sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded?  Why are
  there so *many* different write speeds?  What were they all intended
  for?
  1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about?  Does anyone
  understand
  how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to
  buy?
 
  Thanks.
  *ROM
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of
  those
  are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and
  $20
  U.S.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
  brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
  sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
  so-called
  music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
  though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.
 
  Hope this helps.
  Rusty
   At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
 While
 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
 I'd like

Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Gary Wood

I use Memorex blank CDR's.  I like them.  They work good for me.
- Original Message - 
From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:27 AM
Subject: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to 
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are 
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without 
jewel

boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under 
the

impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Clifford Blackwell
Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any old
data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or a
stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a spindle,
be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear plastic
one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak one
out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?  If
you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program with
which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and 
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. 
Now 
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear 
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are a 
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel 
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and 
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most 
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the 
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently, 
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread russell Bourgoin

Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name 
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though 
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called 
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, 
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.


Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Tim Grady
You only need to buy those if you have a stand alone recorder.  The extra 
cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.


- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name 
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though 
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called 
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, 
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.


Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to 
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are 
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without 
jewel

boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under 
the

impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Paul Hutson
While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side to 
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am VERY new 
at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little 
trouble.

Thanks for your help.
Paul
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any old
data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or a
stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a spindle,
be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear plastic
one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak one
out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?  If
you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program with
which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Gomes

what is the ria tim.



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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:28 AM
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You only need to buy those if you have a stand alone recorder.  The extra 
cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.


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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
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Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name 
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though 
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called 
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, 
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.


Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. 
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to 
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there 
are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without 
jewel

boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that 
most

people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under 
the

impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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RE: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Jed Barton
Just use any generic CDs, and they'll work just fine.
No reason by buy music only CDs.
Thanks,
Jed

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:29 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


You only need to buy those if you have a stand alone recorder.  The
extra 
cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though

 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called 
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,

 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS 
and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  
While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a 
friend.  Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, 
and I'd love to hear recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon 
and realize that there are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that 
most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm 
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Gomes
well Paul there are lines or some sort of raised lines on the side that is 
suppose to be up. You don't want to be touching the smooth side because the 
oil from your skin will dirty the recording side. So try to touch the smooth 
side as little as possible with clean hands.




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From: Paul Hutson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side to 
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am VERY 
new at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little 
trouble.

Thanks for your help.
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any old
data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or a
stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a spindle,
be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear plastic
one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak one
out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?  If
you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program with
which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Yardbird
Sorry, but I don't know what RIA stands for.  Please explain.
Thanks.

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.

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From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Clifford Blackwell
RIAA is the Recording Industry Association of America.  They are the
guardians of copywrite.  The extra cost of music cd's for stand alone
recorders goes to RIAA for anticipated copywrite payments.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:40:56 AM 
Sorry, but I don't know what RIA stands for.  Please explain.
Thanks.

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.

- Original Message - 
From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Clifford Blackwell
For most cd's, there is a slightly raised ring around the center hole
about an inch or less from the center.  The side with that ridge goes
down.

In any case, one should be careful not to get fingerprints or to smudge
the surface of the disk.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:30:12 AM 
While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side
to 
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am
VERY new 
at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little

trouble.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Daniel,

 I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
 necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any
old
 data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

 I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

 You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or
a
 stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a
spindle,
 be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear
plastic
 one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak
one
 out.

 The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings? 
If
 you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program
with
 which I am comfortable yet.

 Clifford

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. 
While

 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there
 are a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a

 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.

 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes
that
 most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
 the
 impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
 differently,
 please say.

 thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

 SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

 Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Yardbird
Thanks to everyone who's responding to this question of mine.  Please 
understand that I didn't think I needed to buy a type of CD that was 
advertised as being for music specifically.  I had done some basic homework 
in order to understand disc capacity and write speed, and really just wanted 
to hear people's brand preferences, if any.  Not surprised that a number of 
brands, some of them long familiar as makers of audiotape (such as Maxell, 
TDK, etc.) as well as some products whose names I'd never heard (Ination, 
for example) were all good.  I just didn't know if there were some really 
inferior things out there, as once was the case with blank audiocassette 
tape.

Again, thanks to all, and waiting to hear what RIA means and what it has to 
do with stand-alone CD recording devices.

Daniel
just wanted to
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From: Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:46 AM
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Just use any generic CDs, and they'll work just fine.
No reason by buy music only CDs.
Thanks,
Jed

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:29 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


You only need to buy those if you have a stand alone recorder.  The
extra
cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.

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From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
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 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though

 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's,

 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
friend.  Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand,
and I'd love to hear recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon
and realize that there are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Paul Hutson
Thanks one and all for your help.  Now, I should have a bunch of FUN burning 
CD's.

Everybody have a good one.
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



For most cd's, there is a slightly raised ring around the center hole
about an inch or less from the center.  The side with that ridge goes
down.

In any case, one should be careful not to get fingerprints or to smudge
the surface of the disk.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:30:12 AM 

While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side
to
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am
VERY new
at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little

trouble.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
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From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any

old

data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or

a

stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a

spindle,

be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear

plastic

one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak

one

out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?

If

you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program

with

which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.

While


learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a

friend.

Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love

to

hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that

there

are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or

without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like

a


25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes

that

most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm

under

the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Yardbird
Ah.  I knew what RIA stood for, but without the explanation didn't assume 
that the initials necessarily referred to it in this context.  Now I see. 
So to speak.

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


RIAA is the Recording Industry Association of America.  They are the
guardians of copywrite.  The extra cost of music cd's for stand alone
recorders goes to RIAA for anticipated copywrite payments.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:40:56 AM 
Sorry, but I don't know what RIA stands for.  Please explain.
Thanks.

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


cost is for the RIA.  It has nothing to do with quality.

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From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Hi,

 I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever
name
 brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally,
though
 sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that
so-called
 music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type
cd's,
 though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I
suppose.

 Hope this helps.
 Rusty
  At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
 Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there are
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Gomes

costco has blank cds and I bet sam's club does too.



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From: Paul Hutson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


Thanks one and all for your help.  Now, I should have a bunch of FUN 
burning CD's.

Everybody have a good one.
Paul
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From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



For most cd's, there is a slightly raised ring around the center hole
about an inch or less from the center.  The side with that ridge goes
down.

In any case, one should be careful not to get fingerprints or to smudge
the surface of the disk.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:30:12 AM 

While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side
to
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am
VERY new
at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little

trouble.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
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From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any

old

data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or

a

stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a

spindle,

be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear

plastic

one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak

one

out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?

If

you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program

with

which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.

While


learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a

friend.

Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love

to

hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that

there

are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or

without

jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like

a


25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes

that

most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm

under

the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Chris Skarstad
generally the cd's will be  on the side you want to record on. so when you 
remove it from the spindle or package or whatever you buy them in, do not 
turn them over to the other side or you'll have nothing but problems.
So, just place them in the drive on the side they're on. treat them as you 
would any other cd.







At 12:01 PM 6/13/2005, you wrote:

For most cd's, there is a slightly raised ring around the center hole
about an inch or less from the center.  The side with that ridge goes
down.

In any case, one should be careful not to get fingerprints or to smudge
the surface of the disk.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:30:12 AM 
While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side
to
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am
VERY new
at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little

trouble.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
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From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Daniel,

 I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
 necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any
old
 data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

 I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

 You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or
a
 stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a
spindle,
 be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear
plastic
 one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak
one
 out.

 The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?
If
 you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program
with
 which I am comfortable yet.

 Clifford

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While

 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there
 are a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a

 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.

 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes
that
 most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
 the
 impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
 differently,
 please say.

 thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

 SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

 Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Yardbird
So you mean the ridge is on the recording side, and the label side is smooth 
at that same point?


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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


For most cd's, there is a slightly raised ring around the center hole
about an inch or less from the center.  The side with that ridge goes
down.

In any case, one should be careful not to get fingerprints or to smudge
the surface of the disk.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:30:12 AM 
While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side
to
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am
VERY new
at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little

trouble.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


 Daniel,

 I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
 necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any
old
 data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

 I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

 You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or
a
 stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a
spindle,
 be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear
plastic
 one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak
one
 out.

 The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?
If
 you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program
with
 which I am comfortable yet.

 Clifford

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 
 I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
 and
 also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.
While

 learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a
friend.
 Now
 I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love
to
 hear
 recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that
there
 are a
 lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or
without
 jewel
 boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like
a

 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
 durability.

 Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes
that
 most
 people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

 Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm
under
 the
 impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
 differently,
 please say.

 thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

 SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

 Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Jerry Richer
 The business side of a CD is the side that is flush with the jewel
case.  If you hold the CD in your hand by the edge then with the index
finger of the other hand you reach to the center of the disk and drag your
finger slowly towards the edge about an inch an a half or so from the center
you may or may not encounter a smooth or sharp ridge.  If you feel this
ridge then this is the business side.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Yardbird
I don't know if this message was in response to me, particularly, but I just 
wanted to say that how a CD sits in a jewel box depends on how someone 
sticks it in there, except when you buy a new music CD and open it for the 
first time, where of course the recorded side is down and the label side is 
up.

I was hoping to add the textural distinction to my low vision method of 
holding the disc under a light and distinguishing the matte-finish side (or 
label side, in the case of a commercial CD) from the shiny side, which is 
the encoded side.  But you're saying that not all CDs have a bit of a ridge 
on the encoding side?  I guess that's not necessarily going to help me do it 
without my eyes, then.  If I'm wrong, please explain.  But it sounds as if 
you're saying a CD doesn't necessarily have that ridge, only sometimes.
Daniel

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 The business side of a CD is the side that is flush with the jewel
case.  If you hold the CD in your hand by the edge then with the index
finger of the other hand you reach to the center of the disk and drag your
finger slowly towards the edge about an inch an a half or so from the center
you may or may not encounter a smooth or sharp ridge.  If you feel this
ridge then this is the business side.
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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread russell Bourgoin

Hi,

Usually, there is a feelable ring around the center hole on the 
face down side.  I say most times because every now and then I find a store 
bought cd with no souge ridge.  Never seen a cd rom without one, 
though.  Incidentally, writeable vidio discs have a ridge on both sides.


Rusty
 At 12:30 PM 6/13/2005, Paul Hutson spake thusly:-
While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side to 
put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording.  I am VERY 
new at this too.  Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD?
Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little 
trouble.

Thanks for your help.
Paul
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Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please



Daniel,

I think most main stream brands should work well.  You don't
necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music.  Any old
data cd will work if you're creating from the computer..

I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others.

You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or a
stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular.  If you get a spindle,
be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear plastic
one for protection of the disks and does not record.  It can freak one
out.

The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings?  If
you get any good tips, let us all know.  I haven't found a program with
which I am comfortable yet.

Clifford


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM 

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS
and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While

learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.
Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there
are a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without
jewel
boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a

25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that
most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under
the
impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please

2005-06-13 Thread Gary Wood
I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's.  I'm not sure exactly how many of those 
are left.  I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 
U.S.


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Hi,

I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name 
brand is on sale.  I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though 
sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap.  I have found that so-called 
music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, 
though they generally cost a bit more.  Money for r i a a, I suppose.


Hope this helps.
Rusty
 At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:-

I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and
also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive.  While
learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend.  Now
I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to 
hear
recommendations.  I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are 
a
lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without 
jewel

boxes.  It's a bit overwhelming.  I just want to find something like a
25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and
durability.

Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most
people I I know use for CDs they make themselves.

Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC.  I'm under 
the

impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently,
please say.

thanks a lot.  Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor:

SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive]

Daniel




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