RE: re converting audible files
Hello: Apparently one can download a free DBPowerAmp 21 day trial but, for the life of me, i can't locate the download button. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of roger.so...@virgin.net Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 7:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: re converting audible files Hello Brian I'm sorry but I gave the incorrect program name. On checking I find it's really dbPoweramp and the url is: https://www.dbpoweramp.com/ Yu will find it does a lot more than just converting .aa files but that is all I use it for. Roger -Original Message- From: brian parker Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:46 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: re converting audible files Hi roger, i am already using sound taxi, and i agree with you, it takes its time. the only thing good about it, is that it wil do several files at the same time. i also use victor stream. where do i get dpower. i have no objection to paying for what i want. brian. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
re converting audible files
Hi roger, i am already using sound taxi, and i agree with you, it takes its time. the only thing good about it, is that it wil do several files at the same time. i also use victor stream. where do i get dpower. i have no objection to paying for what i want. brian.
Re: re converting audible files
Hello Brian I'm sorry but I gave the incorrect program name. On checking I find it's really dbPoweramp and the url is: https://www.dbpoweramp.com/ Yu will find it does a lot more than just converting .aa files but that is all I use it for. Roger -Original Message- From: brian parker Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:46 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: re converting audible files Hi roger, i am already using sound taxi, and i agree with you, it takes its time. the only thing good about it, is that it wil do several files at the same time. i also use victor stream. where do i get dpower. i have no objection to paying for what i want. brian. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
RE: converting Audible files to other formats
I was just curious. Is it possible at all to convert the nls files or rfbd files to play on an ipod or like device? Thanks. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:52 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
right, now, you can download or stream. when you use a program, such as sound taxi, you're decompiling and reverse enginearing the product. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain cchalt...@austin.rr.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:32 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Christopher cchalt...@austin.rr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret do not decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content as prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said electronic content instead of audible content I might have interpreted it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't legal in this case. Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although maybe not unethical. Richard Claypool wrote: Hi, there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
One can rip it to cd, and then rerip it into mp3. for personal use of course wink. there's also tunabite and sound taxi, but they are a no no against our beloved DMCA. Interestingly enough, amazon.com downloads are now un DRM, but audioble still is. One wonders if this shall change in the next few years. Rick twitter http://twitter.com/elheme msn bellevue@gmail.com skype lord_of_beer - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Christopher cchalt...@austin.rr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
You can burn then rip. I agree that there are legal issues. But it's also so time consuming to burn to cd and then rip to files that I couldn't be bothered. A 280 page book took up around 10 cd's. It takes a while to burn each one and then just as long to rip them. The files are already transferable to any portable device you might want so I just don't see the point. File management is time consuming enough as it is! Cheers, Peter On 3/25/09, Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net wrote: It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
Bruce, This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. Bruce On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus fair use in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own personal use. Audible's terms and conditions at http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the following: 6. Grants of Licenses a. Audible Content License. When you clickout or otherwise purchase (referred to herein, collectively as Purchase) Audible Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under fair use while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or TC's, while others say it can't be illegal due to fair use, but I'm not sure they understand fair use or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
According to Audibles website, you may burn CD versions of Audible books using either iTunes or Nero, (versions 7 and above. Read about it here. http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/softwareWizard/SoftwareOtherOptions.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes Peace, Larry To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: converting Audible files to other formats
It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed prohibit it. Bruce On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Sylvia. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Converting Audible Files
Do you have the audible manager installed? It must be installed. - Original Message - From: Melanie Clouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files I've tried using Goldwave but it keeps getting an error during the conversion or saving process. I thought maybe Goldwave couldn't perform the task since I was getting these errors. I'll try it again though. Melanie - Original Message - From: Julia Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Converting Audible Files Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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I've got it working now. I had to download the Audible Manager 3.5 then it worked fine. Thank you for the help. Melanie - Original Message - From: DOC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files Do you have the audible manager installed? It must be installed. - Original Message - From: Melanie Clouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files I've tried using Goldwave but it keeps getting an error during the conversion or saving process. I thought maybe Goldwave couldn't perform the task since I was getting these errors. I'll try it again though. Melanie - Original Message - From: Julia Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Converting Audible Files Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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I am glad to be of service. - Original Message - From: Melanie Clouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files I've got it working now. I had to download the Audible Manager 3.5 then it worked fine. Thank you for the help. Melanie - Original Message - From: DOC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files Do you have the audible manager installed? It must be installed. - Original Message - From: Melanie Clouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files I've tried using Goldwave but it keeps getting an error during the conversion or saving process. I thought maybe Goldwave couldn't perform the task since I was getting these errors. I'll try it again though. Melanie - Original Message - From: Julia Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Converting Audible Files Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Converting Audible Files
Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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I've tried using Goldwave but it keeps getting an error during the conversion or saving process. I thought maybe Goldwave couldn't perform the task since I was getting these errors. I'll try it again though. Melanie - Original Message - From: Julia Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Converting Audible Files Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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yeah - Original Message - From: Peter Scanlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files Will Sound forge do this? At 09:11 AM 15/01/2006, you wrote: I've tried using Goldwave but it keeps getting an error during the conversion or saving process. I thought maybe Goldwave couldn't perform the task since I was getting these errors. I'll try it again though. Melanie - Original Message - From: Julia Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Converting Audible Files Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 1/13/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Converting Audible Files
No it can't. bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Sky Taylor Mundell wrote: yeah - Original Message - From: Peter Scanlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Converting Audible Files Will Sound forge do this? At 09:11 AM 15/01/2006, you wrote: I've tried using Goldwave but it keeps getting an error during the conversion or saving process. I thought maybe Goldwave couldn't perform the task since I was getting these errors. I'll try it again though. Melanie - Original Message - From: Julia Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Converting Audible Files Melanie, Download goldwav from www.goldwav.com This will convert your Audible books into mp3. HTH, Julia ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 1/13/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
