[PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hey,

Right now, Pd-extended is loading a lot of libraries by default.  Most  
people never used most of those libraries, so I think it makes sense  
to reduce that number to move towards the goal of having the library  
loading embedded in the patch itself.

So the question now is, which libraries should stay in for now, to  
ease the transition?  Here's the current list in the order they are  
loaded:

Gem cyclone zexy creb cxc iemlib list-abs mapping markex maxlib  
memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack  
smlib toxy unauthorized vbap pan freeverb hcs jmmmp ext13 ggee  
iem_anything flib ekext flatspace pdp pidip

I think it should be something like:

cyclone zexy creb iemlib ggee iem_anything flatspace

Or does it even make sense to do it in stages?

.hc




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[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-2584887 ] bonk ignores relative paths when reading templates

2009-02-15 Thread SourceForge.net
Patches item #2584887, was opened at 2009-02-10 07:12
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Category: puredata
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Frank Barknecht (fbar)
Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette)
Summary: bonk ignores relative paths when reading templates

Initial Comment:
bonk~ can not open previously stored attack templates when only a relative path 
is supplied to the "read templates.txt" message. 

bonk~ also ignores any [declare] declarations when searching for template files 
and only works with absolute paths or templates in the working directory PPd 
was started from.

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>Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2009-02-15 23:29

Message:
one detail: MAXPDSTRING is longer than FILENAME_MAX on Windows, so to
prevent crasher bugs, any time a file path is stored, FILENAME_MAX should
be used instead of MAXPDSTRING.

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Comment By: Frank Barknecht (fbar)
Date: 2009-02-10 11:07

Message:
Okay, attached is a patch that changes the "read" and "write" messages to
use canvas-relative paths. Tested only briefly, but seems to work. Diff
against current SVN HEAD.
File Added: bonk~.c.diff

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Comment By: Frank Barknecht (fbar)
Date: 2009-02-10 07:19

Message:
bonk~ should probably use the canvas_open() method to open files instead of
a plain fdopen()

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Re: [PD-dev] Reminder Pd-devel IRC meeting Feb 13 (tomorrow)

2009-02-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ah, cool, good to know.  That's one of the goals of this Pd-devel  
effort: to support Tcl/Tk 8.5.  Currently, Pd doesn't really work with  
Tcl/Tk 8.5.  On GNU/Linux, the font handling gets messed up, on Mac OS  
X, Pd doesn't even start with 8.5.

.hc

On Feb 15, 2009, at 8:19 AM, PSPunch wrote:

>
> Ooops, I spoke too soon about the fonts...
>
>
> Tcl/Tk supports anti-aliased fonts on X windows with version 8.5 which
> after updating to, Pd started up with menu fonts closer to the  
> system's
> style. (My Ubuntu 8.04 originally had some version in the 8.4 line.)
>
>
> --
> David Shimamoto
>
>
>> Hans,
>>
>>
>> Just an update to the chat on IRC,
>>
>>
>> The message pack in Japanese worked right out of the box.
>>
>> Here's a screen shot.
>> http://pspunch.com/pd/pd-devel_jp.png
>>
>>
>> --
>> OT,
>>
>> Unfortunately there are very few non-proprietary Japanese fonts  
>> that an
>> average user considers reasonably beautiful, which I imagine users of
>> other Asian charsets may relate to. What individuals configure for  
>> their
>> desktop is often where they've settled after a trial and error  
>> figuring
>> what suites them best and would be nice to see them in tk menus as  
>> well.
>>
>>
>> The following quoted from
>> http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/font.htm#M41
>>
>>  Begin quote 
>>
>> X Windows
>> All valid X font names, including those listed by xlsfonts(1),  
>> are
>> available.
>>
>> MS Windows
>> The following fonts are supported, and are mapped to the user's
>> style defaults.
>>
>>
>> Mac OS X
>> The following fonts are supported, and are mapped to the user's
>> style defaults.
>>
>>
>>  End quote 
>>
>>
>> I wonder how difficult it is, or what may break if tk uses system
>> default styles for X, or is it a concept unique to Gnome?
>>
>>
>> Just a something I would like to add to the veery bottom of the  
>> wish
>> list.
>>
>> --
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Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel code structure meeting on IRC

2009-02-15 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Steffen Juul wrote:
> On 14/02/2009, at 23.48, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
> 
>> Has the log been posted anywhere yet?
> 
> Please do - i'd like to see it. Maybe http://puredata.info/dev/pddevel 
> is a good place to stick it.

http://puredata.info/dev/pddevel/dataflow-2009-02-13.log/view


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Re: [PD-dev] Reminder Pd-devel IRC meeting Feb 13 (tomorrow)

2009-02-15 Thread PSPunch

Ooops, I spoke too soon about the fonts...


Tcl/Tk supports anti-aliased fonts on X windows with version 8.5 which 
after updating to, Pd started up with menu fonts closer to the system's 
style. (My Ubuntu 8.04 originally had some version in the 8.4 line.)


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David Shimamoto


> Hans,
> 
> 
> Just an update to the chat on IRC,
> 
> 
> The message pack in Japanese worked right out of the box.
> 
> Here's a screen shot.
> http://pspunch.com/pd/pd-devel_jp.png
> 
> 
> --
> OT,
> 
> Unfortunately there are very few non-proprietary Japanese fonts that an 
> average user considers reasonably beautiful, which I imagine users of 
> other Asian charsets may relate to. What individuals configure for their 
> desktop is often where they've settled after a trial and error figuring 
> what suites them best and would be nice to see them in tk menus as well.
> 
> 
> The following quoted from
> http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/font.htm#M41
> 
>  Begin quote 
> 
> X Windows
>  All valid X font names, including those listed by xlsfonts(1), are 
> available.
> 
> MS Windows
>  The following fonts are supported, and are mapped to the user's 
> style defaults.
> 
> 
> Mac OS X
>  The following fonts are supported, and are mapped to the user's 
> style defaults.
> 
> 
>  End quote 
> 
> 
> I wonder how difficult it is, or what may break if tk uses system 
> default styles for X, or is it a concept unique to Gnome?
> 
> 
> Just a something I would like to add to the veery bottom of the wish 
> list.
> 
> --
> David Shimamoto
> 
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