Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended

2012-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

What's the pd.info stuff?

.hc

On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes?
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
 Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
 
 
 I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation stuff.
 First, I added [_ ] to most of the strings there.  The rest I left 
 because
 they'll need a little more work.  Then I added a 'po' folder with a 
 Makefile
 to generate the translations.  I mostly did this to have a dev environment 
 for
 trying out having translation support for plugins.
 
 .hc
 
 On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface:
 https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view
 
 Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to
 make based on the following question:
 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the
 Help menu from inside my plugin?
 
 That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along
 with an accelerator ctrl-g, without disturbing old grumps and
 their ctrl-b browser.
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
 Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
 
 
 For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it 
 an 
 internal
 file.  I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search 
 plugin if
 it stays as a plugin.  If its a plugin that's included in 
 Pd-extended, it 
 can
 be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into 
 ~/pd-externals.
 The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go 
 thru the
 patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git.
 
 For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller.  I think this same approach 
 could 
 work
 for vanilla too with the same advantages.  All that Miller would need 
 to do to
 include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/
 
 .hc
 
 On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
   I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the
   helpbrowser based on the feedback I got.  I had no idea the
   gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running
   by default in pd-extended.
 
   -Jonathan
 
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
   To: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
   Cc: 
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM
   Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
 
 
   Hey Jonathan,
 
   I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into
   scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, 
 simple one.  
 I put
   it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended.  I think it 
 makes 
 sense to 
   just
   include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed 
 helpbrowser.tcl.  
 I also
   just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't 
 try to 
 load a
   plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make 
 new version 
 of the
   search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and 
 
 it'll 
   override
   the built-in search-plugin.tcl.
 
   As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take 
 that over 
 and do
   whatever you want with it.  I can't see a reason to keep 
 the old 
 one around
   any more, your search plugin is very thorough.
 
   .hc
 
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Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended

2012-11-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message -

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
 Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
 
 
 For the Pd-extended 0.43 release, I want to keep the old help browser on the
 Help menu.  Then later, I think it can be removed.  Makes for an easier
 transition, IMHO.

Ok, that should work then because I'm not stealing it yet.  It just says
Browser2.0 in the Help menu below it. :)

-Jonathan

 
 As for removing menu items, there is a menu command that can do that.
 
 .hc
 
 On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
  Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface:
  https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view
 
  Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to
  make based on the following question:
  1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the
  Help menu from inside my plugin?
 
  That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along
  with an accelerator ctrl-g, without disturbing old grumps and
  their ctrl-b browser.
 
 
  -Jonathan
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  Cc: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
  Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
 
 
  For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it 
 an 
  internal
  file.  I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search 
 plugin if
  it stays as a plugin.  If its a plugin that's included in 
 Pd-extended, it 
  can
  be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into 
 ~/pd-externals.
  The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go 
 thru the
  patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git.
 
  For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller.  I think this same approach 
 could 
  work
  for vanilla too with the same advantages.  All that Miller would need 
 to do to
  include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/
 
  .hc
 
  On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
   I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the
   helpbrowser based on the feedback I got.  I had no idea the
   gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running
   by default in pd-extended.
 
   -Jonathan
 
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
   To: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
   Cc: 
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM
   Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
 
 
   Hey Jonathan,
 
   I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into
   scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, 
 simple one.  
  I put
   it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended.  I think it 
 makes 
  sense to 
   just
   include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed 
 helpbrowser.tcl.  
  I also
   just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't 
 try to 
  load a
   plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make 
 new version 
  of the
   search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and 
 
  it'll 
   override
   the built-in search-plugin.tcl.
 
   As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take 
 that over 
  and do
   whatever you want with it.  I can't see a reason to keep 
 the old 
  one around
   any more, your search plugin is very thorough.
 
   .hc
 
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Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended

2012-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation stuff.
 First, I added [_ ] to most of the strings there.  The rest I left because
they'll need a little more work.  Then I added a 'po' folder with a Makefile
to generate the translations.  I mostly did this to have a dev environment for
trying out having translation support for plugins.

.hc

On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface:
 https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view
 
 Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to
 make based on the following question:
 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the
 Help menu from inside my plugin?
 
 That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along
 with an accelerator ctrl-g, without disturbing old grumps and
 their ctrl-b browser.
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
 Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended


 For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it an 
 internal
 file.  I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search plugin if
 it stays as a plugin.  If its a plugin that's included in Pd-extended, it 
 can
 be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into ~/pd-externals.
 The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go thru the
 patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git.

 For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller.  I think this same approach could 
 work
 for vanilla too with the same advantages.  All that Miller would need to do 
 to
 include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/

 .hc

 On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
  I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the
  helpbrowser based on the feedback I got.  I had no idea the
  gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running
  by default in pd-extended.

  -Jonathan



  - Original Message -
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  To: pd-dev@iem.at List pd-dev@iem.at
  Cc: 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM
  Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended


  Hey Jonathan,

  I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into
  scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one.  
 I put
  it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended.  I think it makes 
 sense to 
  just
  include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl.  
 I also
  just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to 
 load a
  plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version 
 of the
  search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and 
 it'll 
  override
  the built-in search-plugin.tcl.

  As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over 
 and do
  whatever you want with it.  I can't see a reason to keep the old 
 one around
  any more, your search plugin is very thorough.

  .hc

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[PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended

2012-11-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hey Jonathan,

I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into
scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one.  I put
it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended.  I think it makes sense to just
include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl.  I also
just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to load a
plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version of the
search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and it'll override
the built-in search-plugin.tcl.

As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over and do
whatever you want with it.  I can't see a reason to keep the old one around
any more, your search plugin is very thorough.

.hc

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