Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
im testing on a imac 2Gb Intel core duo the extended 2006-12-14 version and the system crashes. with earlier versions I couldn't open files, but with this one the system stalls completely (only the mouse pointer moves) best miguel On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: They are up now. .hc On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Sorry Hans! Couldn't find the nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13 in http://autobuild.puredata.info Did it change name? best miguel On Dec 13, 2006, at 5:58 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, please test the next nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13. 13 is my lucky number ;). I think I got it working now. I had to build Tcl/Tk from CVS (8.4.15-pre). Which is nice because it includes the new Mac OS X drawing speed-up code. http://autobuild.puredata.info It turns out that the Tcl/Tk that Apple includes on Mac/Intel is buggy... .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
PD-0.39.2-extended-test6 seems to run fine here on imac 2GHz core 2 Duo (listended to an osc~ opened some GEM patches) With PD-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-14 it launched fine and loaded up GEM library but I couldnt open any patches or create patches. Incidentally when i tried to open PD-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-14 when PD-0.39.2-extended-test6 was already open it completely locked up the machine. On 14 Dec 2006, at 11:33, Miguel Cardoso wrote: im testing on a imac 2Gb Intel core duo the extended 2006-12-14 version and the system crashes. with earlier versions I couldn't open files, but with this one the system stalls completely (only the mouse pointer moves) best miguel On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: They are up now. .hc On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Sorry Hans! Couldn't find the nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13 in http://autobuild.puredata.info Did it change name? best miguel On Dec 13, 2006, at 5:58 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, please test the next nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13. 13 is my lucky number ;). I think I got it working now. I had to build Tcl/Tk from CVS (8.4.15-pre). Which is nice because it includes the new Mac OS X drawing speed-up code. http://autobuild.puredata.info It turns out that the Tcl/Tk that Apple includes on Mac/Intel is buggy... .hc --- - I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] system call
How about using the pyext external from Thomas Grill(if you're into python that is)? It's a long time since I've worked with it but the os.system module might be what you need. see: http://docs.python.org/tut/node12.html The glob module is good for cross-platform file listings as well, if you do a search for glob on the pd-list I seem to remember a good example of that one. Hope this helps! On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:59:57 +0100 , code [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, sorry, thats really not what i am looking for, i try to be clear : on pd-linux, you have [shell] external, that executes system calls. so if you send it a message [ls -l and connect [print] to it, you have output of command `ls -l' (long list) with output in pd window, now - window$ has something like very crippled terminal - dos prompt - you are correct, but i've never heard about how to use it from within pd. i doubt [dos-prompt] or [cmd] object for window$ exists, but i might be wrong. ___ Hot new product - Spider Networks introduces stunning online ePortfolio solution for students and teachers http://www.spider-networks.net/solutions/eportfolio.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd preferences
Hallo, Miguel Cardoso hat gesagt: // Miguel Cardoso wrote: How can I add folders in the startup path preferences without removing the existing ones? Use a colon : to seperate paths as in /usr/lib/pd/extra:/home/me/myself:/and/I Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd preferences
Miguel Cardoso a écrit : How can I add folders in the startup path preferences without removing the existing ones? hello, startup path preferences is limited to ten entries, but you can use a startup script, for adding other pathes (.bat on win32, .pdrc or .pdsettings on linux, something else on mac), there also is [declare] since pd-0.40 : [declare -path /your/path/is/here] Have fun, Patco. ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd preferences
Frank Barknecht a écrit : Use a colon : to seperate paths as in /usr/lib/pd/extra:/home/me/myself:/and/I great, I didn't know this trick, thanks! All the Best, Patco. ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] system call
padawan12 a écrit : Maybe try cygwin with shell? Hello, I use the external [popen] and run pd with msys shell for system calls. All the best. Patco. ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd preferences
On Mac OS X, you can also use .pdrc for startup flags. ~Kyle On 12/14/06, Patco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miguel Cardoso a écrit : How can I add folders in the startup path preferences without removing the existing ones? hello, startup path preferences is limited to ten entries, but you can use a startup script, for adding other pathes (.bat on win32, .pdrc or .pdsettings on linux, something else on mac), there also is [declare] since pd-0.40 : [declare -path /your/path/is/here] Have fun, Patco. ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
Ok, so the release branch works, that's good news. I don't have an Intel Mac, and this problem is only on Intel Macs from what I have seen, so I am going to have to leave this bug open for the non- release builds, as long as the release works. But all you Mac/Intel people, please try your hand at finding the source of the bug. I don't get it, all this stuff works fine on Mac/ PowerPC. .hc On Dec 14, 2006, at 7:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PD-0.39.2-extended-test6 seems to run fine here on imac 2GHz core 2 Duo (listended to an osc~ opened some GEM patches) With PD-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-14 it launched fine and loaded up GEM library but I couldnt open any patches or create patches. Incidentally when i tried to open PD-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-14 when PD-0.39.2-extended-test6 was already open it completely locked up the machine. On 14 Dec 2006, at 11:33, Miguel Cardoso wrote: im testing on a imac 2Gb Intel core duo the extended 2006-12-14 version and the system crashes. with earlier versions I couldn't open files, but with this one the system stalls completely (only the mouse pointer moves) best miguel On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: They are up now. .hc On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Sorry Hans! Couldn't find the nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13 in http://autobuild.puredata.info Did it change name? best miguel On Dec 13, 2006, at 5:58 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, please test the next nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13. 13 is my lucky number ;). I think I got it working now. I had to build Tcl/Tk from CVS (8.4.15-pre). Which is nice because it includes the new Mac OS X drawing speed-up code. http://autobuild.puredata.info It turns out that the Tcl/Tk that Apple includes on Mac/Intel is buggy... .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http:// lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] iemlib abs small bugs
Hi all, I found a couple of small details in the (otherwise great!) iemlib abstraction collection which I think can easily be fixed. I am using pd-extended 38.4 so maybe it is fixed more recent versions: The vcf_lp2~ abstraction is using iem_cot~ which does not exist. I suppose it should be changed to iem_cot4~ instead? The vcf_bp2~ abstractions doesn't work - replace vcf_filter~ rbp with vcf_filter~ bp2 or vcf_filter~ rbp2? The rest of the filters seems to be ok although I haven't gone through all of them (quite a few!) It is easy to make a workaround by saving them at the same place as the patch that are calling them. Should I put it in the bug list? Best, Anders ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
On 14/12/2006, at 17.33, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: But all you Mac/Intel people, please try your hand at finding the source of the bug. I don't get it, all this stuff works fine on Mac/PowerPC. I guess this is good news. Both the test6 build and the dated build of 14th of dec work (what seams the same): - the audio I/O stuck... closing audio error has disappeared. - open patches, play sound. - when closed both the before-mentioned processes shut - the 'select all' graphics test is successful too You mentioned earlier that the dated build was head of cvs, which i guess is 0.41'ish(?), so this dated build is kind of like Pd- extended-0.41? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] system call
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Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
On Dec 14, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Steffen wrote: On 14/12/2006, at 17.33, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: But all you Mac/Intel people, please try your hand at finding the source of the bug. I don't get it, all this stuff works fine on Mac/PowerPC. I guess this is good news. Both the test6 build and the dated build of 14th of dec work (what seams the same): - the audio I/O stuck... closing audio error has disappeared. - open patches, play sound. - when closed both the before-mentioned processes shut - the 'select all' graphics test is successful too Great, so it sounds like I got rid of the bug. Or really rather the Tcl/Tk devs got rid of the bug, and I just swapped in the working code. You mentioned earlier that the dated build was head of cvs, which i guess is 0.41'ish(?), so this dated build is kind of like Pd- extended-0.41? Its the HEAD of Pd-extended, but that is still stuck on Pd 0.39.2 until someone ports all the Pd-extended patches to the 0.40 branch. .hc Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] netpd-shuffle: the netpd-radio
hi all netpd-shuffle, the netpd-radio-stream, plays just everything that ever has been recorded from netpd-sessions. there is also an ANTI_BOREDOM_BUTTON on it's webinterface, that is to press, when a session lasts for a too long time and is going to become boring (some sessions are more than an hour long and stay the same for some time, because everyone is chatting instead of making music ;-) http://www.netpd.org/listen --this is all stuff made purely with puredata-- on the same stream livesessions will be broadcasted, that hopefully will happen every thursday @ 9pm GMT. everyone is kindly invited to participate. cheers roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] netpd-shuffle: the netpd-radio
Nice one Roman, I downloaded a few recently and was amazed at the variety of noises and rythmns, some brilliant moments, but as you say - often long periods of dullness. Maybe a distillation down to the best of when somebody has time to make edits - Now That's What I call Puredata and the Greatest Puredata Hits...EVA!!! as albums ;) I will definitely be into jamming this with you guys in the new year. a. On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:02:04 +0100 Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all netpd-shuffle, the netpd-radio-stream, plays just everything that ever has been recorded from netpd-sessions. there is also an ANTI_BOREDOM_BUTTON on it's webinterface, that is to press, when a session lasts for a too long time and is going to become boring (some sessions are more than an hour long and stay the same for some time, because everyone is chatting instead of making music ;-) http://www.netpd.org/listen --this is all stuff made purely with puredata-- on the same stream livesessions will be broadcasted, that hopefully will happen every thursday @ 9pm GMT. everyone is kindly invited to participate. cheers roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
test6 appears to work for me just fine… I did get the following errors at startup: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture vasp: can't load library /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture D On 13/12/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, please test the next nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13. 13 is my lucky number ;). I think I got it working now. I had to build Tcl/Tk from CVS (8.4.15-pre). Which is nice because it includes the new Mac OS X drawing speed-up code. http://autobuild.puredata.info It turns out that the Tcl/Tk that Apple includes on Mac/Intel is buggy... .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
Yeah, those are not built from source, but instead are binaries that Thomas built on PowerPC, and then included into the test releases. Someone just needs to build them as universal binaries (hint: it probably won't be me), then I'll include those. .hc On Dec 14, 2006, at 9:13 PM, David NG McCallum wrote: test6 appears to work for me just fine… I did get the following errors at startup: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended- test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture vasp: can't load library /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended- test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture D On 13/12/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, please test the next nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13. 13 is my lucky number ;). I think I got it working now. I had to build Tcl/Tk from CVS (8.4.15-pre). Which is nice because it includes the new Mac OS X drawing speed-up code. http://autobuild.puredata.info It turns out that the Tcl/Tk that Apple includes on Mac/Intel is buggy... .hc - --- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: Re: [PD] YAMIB: yet another mac intel build
You could pull the intel versions from my build (excepting VASP). I'll look into how to do UB when I get my MacBook back from Apple repair. On 12/14/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, those are not built from source, but instead are binaries that Thomas built on PowerPC, and then included into the test releases. Someone just needs to build them as universal binaries (hint: it probably won't be me), then I'll include those. .hc On Dec 14, 2006, at 9:13 PM, David NG McCallum wrote: test6 appears to work for me just fine… I did get the following errors at startup: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended- test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/vasp.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture vasp: can't load library /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended- test6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Volumes/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/ Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/xsample.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture D On 13/12/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, please test the next nightly build on the Mac/Intel, 2006-12-13. 13 is my lucky number ;). I think I got it working now. I had to build Tcl/Tk from CVS (8.4.15-pre). Which is nice because it includes the new Mac OS X drawing speed-up code. http://autobuild.puredata.info It turns out that the Tcl/Tk that Apple includes on Mac/Intel is buggy... .hc - --- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Abstraction [define]
I just thought I'd propose an idea I had driving home : ): As a supplement to the subpatcher functionality, what about having a [pddefine] object that took a name as its argument, and a patch built inside would then be callable within the parent patch patch, acting functionally equivalent to an abstraction (i.e. arguments, etc). The advantage of this would to simplify distribution of pd-patches that would like to use abstractions, but don't want to have to include 15 files for one program. It would also be great for 1-off abstractions that aren't usable elsewhere, but are needed multiple times in the same patch. Anyhow, I can't write it, so I guess it's just an idea for able devs to consider. Luke ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
