Re: [PD] ASDR
Even so late that I didn't precise the whole thing: it's in 'ggee' directory then 'gui' subdirectory. If you need linux binaries, just let me know... ++ Jé Chuckk Hubbard a écrit : I haven't been able to find it or its documentation on the sourceforge link from google. Does it actually draw a table? On 1/11/07, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: [envgen] is part of Günter's ggext... ++ Jé Derek Holzer a écrit : envgen best, d. Max Neupert wrote: hi list, i remember that there was an object like a table where it was possible to drag on points for example to create an envelope of attack sustain decay release. now i can't find it any more. was it an external? if yes which one? how is it called? thanks, m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Apple iPhone
yeah, expensive locked down boutique device, Apple gets worse all the time, there have been different times when they were much more open. But, at least when they drop now the 'Computers' in the name, now we know that they focuse on content and vertical integration. Guess GP2X or Nokia N800 for PDA needs are the more desirable gadgets. IPhone maybe is hackable but I dont like to be treated as a criminal, for that pricetag I want an invitation to program it (read SDK). I wonder if they hired Jeff Han for doing the multitouchscreen although it is obviously not cameradriven... Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Granular Cross-fader
Yes, please do. That sounds fascinating! ~Kyle On 1/12/07, Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh shoot... can you explain that more? I understand convolution in reverb but how might that work in a crossfader? km Why granular? Why not a convoluting crossfader rather? -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT: Jeff Han + The Crappy State of Mobile Phones (was Apple iPhone)
On 1/12/07, Malte Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if they hired Jeff Han for doing the multitouchscreen although it is obviously not cameradriven... My guess is that Jeff Han did have something to do w/ development. Look at the demo animations and it shows two fingers moving outward to zoom into a photo: this is exactly the method Han used to zoom in on a desktop of photos in his own multi-touchscreen demo. I am still not sold on this thing either. It's seems more like a concept phone. My REAL hope lies that all the other phone companies and manufacturers will learn that people crave innovation, simplicity, and something that 'just works' for data swapping, especially address books, email, SMS, and voice mail. I have Sprint right now, and they're pretty horrible for a lot of these reasons. My phone (LG PM325) was touted as having Bluetooth, but it can't communicate with my PowerBook worth a damn. It has text messaging where you have to sign in to a separate sprint vision service, a process which takes 2 mins, just to view an SMS message. To connect to my computer and transfer an address book? Good luck! You need an expensive proprietary connector and some software that feels like it's in Alpha testing and also must be bought separately. Any software must be purchased: no FLOSS allowed. Basically, phones right now need to become more standardized, and open to development, rather than being the tin-can platforms for after-market jollies that the companies are pushing them to be. Hopefully Apple will scare the bejeezus out of the other manufacturers into providing a sensible and working product. It sure worked like that against Blockbuster Video when Netflix hit the scene! ~Kyle -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: Jeff Han + The Crappy State of Mobile Phones (was Apple iPhone)
Hmm - well the technique that Han uses isn't appropriate for a device as small at the phone. (basically, his technique features a camera looking at the display surface from underneath - meaning that it requires a substantial amount of throw underneath, which isn't available in a mobile phone). Also, this technique wasn't invented by Han - he's just the first one who has made a really nice, convincing demo of it. http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirsense/ That said - he and his students had a lot of neat ideas for multi-finger applications, so Apple may have been in touch with him for some brainstorming.. -Dave M. Kyle Klipowicz wrote: On 1/12/07, Malte Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if they hired Jeff Han for doing the multitouchscreen although it is obviously not cameradriven... My guess is that Jeff Han did have something to do w/ development. Look at the demo animations and it shows two fingers moving outward to zoom into a photo: this is exactly the method Han used to zoom in on a desktop of photos in his own multi-touchscreen demo. I am still not sold on this thing either. It's seems more like a concept phone. My REAL hope lies that all the other phone companies and manufacturers will learn that people crave innovation, simplicity, and something that 'just works' for data swapping, especially address books, email, SMS, and voice mail. I have Sprint right now, and they're pretty horrible for a lot of these reasons. My phone (LG PM325) was touted as having Bluetooth, but it can't communicate with my PowerBook worth a damn. It has text messaging where you have to sign in to a separate sprint vision service, a process which takes 2 mins, just to view an SMS message. To connect to my computer and transfer an address book? Good luck! You need an expensive proprietary connector and some software that feels like it's in Alpha testing and also must be bought separately. Any software must be purchased: no FLOSS allowed. Basically, phones right now need to become more standardized, and open to development, rather than being the tin-can platforms for after-market jollies that the companies are pushing them to be. Hopefully Apple will scare the bejeezus out of the other manufacturers into providing a sensible and working product. It sure worked like that against Blockbuster Video when Netflix hit the scene! ~Kyle -- MIT Media Lab [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] wiiremote b4
Hello Hans, thanks for porting it! I'm not able to compile the cvs version with make under MacOSX 10.4.8. Could you please tell me which are the commands to get it compiled? Many thanks, Stefano ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ASDR
Yes, and if you're planning on storing/recalling settings, better to get good at dumping that list and putting it back in to the object. Maybe there's a way to build an abstraction to do it with less trouble/typing. Tricky but useful object! Kevin On 1/12/07, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so late that I didn't precise the whole thing: it's in 'ggee' directory then 'gui' subdirectory. If you need linux binaries, just let me know... ++ Jé Chuckk Hubbard a écrit : I haven't been able to find it or its documentation on the sourceforge link from google. Does it actually draw a table? On 1/11/07, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: [envgen] is part of Günter's ggext... ++ Jé Derek Holzer a écrit : envgen best, d. Max Neupert wrote: hi list, i remember that there was an object like a table where it was possible to drag on points for example to create an envelope of attack sustain decay release. now i can't find it any more. was it an external? if yes which one? how is it called? thanks, m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Granular Cross-fader
Kevin McCoy a écrit : Oh shoot... can you explain that more? I understand convolution in reverb but how might that work in a crossfader? km Why granular? Why not a convoluting crossfader rather? The idea is about filtering one track with the spectral enveloppe of the other one, and vice-versa, The crossfade would pass progressively from one track to another, but instead of having mixed tracks at the center, there would have the convolution between the tracks: There is a bad side, because this kind of effect can only affect the filtered sound in real time. There is an approach of this in I06.Timbre.stamp.pd PC. ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Graz DVD aka rel01
This is embarrassing for me. I didn't test very well before posting that email: When i play it on my computer there indeed is sound (while plying it on the standalone dvd-player i have in reach there wasn't). I apologize very much! I'm watching it now (that is, i just paused it), it's great. Thanks for making this. On 09/01/2007, at 20.12, Jerome Tuncer wrote: Even better would have been some kind of subtitle to know who says/ thinks what... I was thinking that too, but later realized that it might be a social contract with those who participate in the video, i.e. they might not (all) want to link their real person with their virtual person. Best, Steffen i enjoyed it a lot too, and i thought it actually was quite fun guessing who was who... a curtain that will probably lift more and more as i'm getting more into this strange wonderful world of pure data ;) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Apple iPhone
On Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 03:03:07PM +0100, Malte Steiner wrote: yeah, expensive locked down boutique device, Apple gets worse all the time, there have been different times when they were much more open. But, at least when they drop now the 'Computers' in the name, now we know that they focuse on content and vertical integration. Guess GP2X or Nokia N800 for PDA needs are the more desirable gadgets. IPhone maybe is hackable but I dont like to be treated as a criminal, for that pricetag I want an invitation to program it (read SDK). I wonder if they hired Jeff Han for doing the multitouchscreen although it is obviously not cameradriven... for the touch technology they acquired this company: http://www.fingerworks.com/ i wonder if apple 200 patents are going to hinder touch-interface progress for the entire industry? does anyone have a complete list? Jeff Han is certainly prior art, as far as i'm concerned Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Processing -- PD; OSC communication
Hi list! I would like to make an audio pd patch controlled by a visual interface. I think processing could be a nice aplication for this interface but I'm newby to processing. Communication between PD and Processing is possible by OSC library, but I don't know the way to implement it. I need to send values from Processing by mouse actions to PD to control audio synthesis. Has somebody experience with this kind of implementation? Any suggestion? Saludos -- Raul Diaz Poblete * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciudad Real [Spain] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] rvbap now added to CVS [was: Looking for vbap_reverb]
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: I'm also in contact with Olaf directly and I'm almost done with converting his more advanced [rvbap] external from Max to Pd. This has a builtin calculation of reverb coefficients to be sent to [matrix~] or [mtx_*~] I'll commit it when it's ready. It's ready: I checked in the Pd-port of Olaf Matthes' [rvbap] plus help-patches to the CVS and just used the /externals/vbap directory for this. The code is ifdef'd a lot to stay usable with Max/MSP as well (and includes some bugfixes as added bonus). Thanks a lot to Olaf who was a big help with porting. Binaries should show up in the next pd-autobuilds so please hammer it. The demo-patch assumes you have Iemmatrix installed and it uses [mtx_*~] instead of the old [matrix~], where the arguments and inlets were different. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: pd sl (was RE: [PD] Shoutcast~ for OS X?)
the flying cocks thing had to be the best sl hack ever :) On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 14:46 +, padawan12 wrote: I did a quick scan of some SL info and yes, it seems you just need to start a shoutcast on your own server (you'll need it on a box with a fat pipe not your home machine probably) and the URL is passed into SL from where the clients pick it up. No need to make a replicatable object afaics. Check out the CVS that Georg gave you and compile that to experiment, but ultimately you'll want one that fits your server architecture. You will want to run pd -nogui on the remote. I'm sure we can all help you with this. But alas, like shift8 says, us Linux users can't join in the fun with the dancing cocks just yet :) I'm sure you'll find a few Pd musicians who would be up for doing a virtual gig at your island club too. On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:30:46 -0800 shift8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sure - when ether they (linden) or (because it's now oss) the community makes a linux client that doesn't suck :) On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 19:15 -0500, Patrick Pagano wrote: they are going to open source the viewer. i am not waiting. i can forsee globally attended real-time pd concerts/workshops and classes in virtual space. possibly as interdiciplinary research seminar elective on a local level i would like to create the need in our community and let the power coders take care of the SL~ object. i think it's just gonna come down to opening a public ip for the stream. i think netpd might be nice too for class work. please try secondlife pd users! let us loiter together and know one another pp -Original Message- From: padawan12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 1/12/2007 6:40 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: Subject: Re: [PD] Shoutcast~ for OS X? Hi Patrick, Are you the chap who wanted this to place in Second Life? Might I suggest the better way would be to start with the source (either from a Pd object or from many of the other fine *cast servers out there) and construct your SL object from the top. I don't know the form of SL objects, but didn't they just open source the code? You should be able to work this in. On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:15:38 -0500 Patrick Pagano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an external for OSX for shoutcast/icecast~ I know Yves has one for Linux and apparently Olaf has withdrawn all his stuff? I missed something. Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Mechanize something idiosyncratic. -- Mechanize something idiosyncratic. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pduino: change read speed
hello i recently ordered two arduino boards and now i try my first steps with it. i downloaded Pduino-0.2 and uploaded the firmware to the chip. i encountered a little, but sometimes annoying problem, when using the board with [arduino]-object. when i enable one or more analog inputs, the arduino sends so much data, that data sent from computer to arduino gets delayed, sometimes up to 10 seconds. this makes it impossible for me to use the outputs, while using the analog ins at the same time. i use the [arduino]-object as it is (with the hardcoded baudrate of 115200) and i connect the arduino-board directly to one of my laptop's usb-ports. i counted the messages i receive from the the analog input, when i enable it: 1 analog input enabled: ~960 values/s 2 analog inputs enabled: ~480 values/s per input 3 analog inputs enabled: ~320 values/s per input (and so on) would it be easy to change the code of the firmware, so that it sends the values of each analog input with a fixed rate (e.g. 100 Hz)? i am not a c programmer, anyway i tried to search for kind of a delay function in the code, but couldn't find anything. am i right in assuming, that as it is now, it cycles through the code and sends each time the values with the maximum possible rate, or in other words: there is no speedlimit in the firmware? if so, how hard would it be to implement kind of a speedlimit on the arduino-side? any suggestions are welcome. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino: change read speed
Am Samstag, 13. Januar 2007 03:31 schrieb Roman Haefeli: hello [...snip...] would it be easy to change the code of the firmware, so that it sends the values of each analog input with a fixed rate (e.g. 100 Hz)? i am not a c programmer, anyway i tried to search for kind of a delay function in the code, but couldn't find anything. am i right in assuming, that as it is now, it cycles through the code and sends each time the values with the maximum possible rate, or in other words: there is no speedlimit in the firmware? if so, how hard would it be to implement kind of a speedlimit on the arduino-side? any suggestions are welcome. the best way would be to implement a threshold and a gating function that handles the adc readouts. i'm doing that in the multio. it works like this: the last sent value is saved. the actual readout is compared to that, and if the difference is above a given threshold, it will open the gate for a certain amount of time. during that time it sends all values (as long as they change, regardless of the threhold). each time the change is above the threshold, the open-time is reset. now, when the changes are below the threhold during the gate-open time, the time runs out. then it closes the gate again and the whole thing starts over. this has two advantages: when nothing happens, there are no values to send at all. but while the gate is on, you dont miss any change, allowing for smooth transistions, and get all values as they come in. roman greets, chris ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino: change read speed
Roman Haefeli wrote: hello i recently ordered two arduino boards and now i try my first steps with it. i downloaded Pduino-0.2 and uploaded the firmware to the chip. i encountered a little, but sometimes annoying problem, when using the board with [arduino]-object. when i enable one or more analog inputs, the arduino sends so much data, that data sent from computer to arduino gets delayed, sometimes up to 10 seconds. this makes it impossible for me to use the outputs, while using the analog ins at the same time. i use the [arduino]-object as it is (with the hardcoded baudrate of 115200) and i connect the arduino-board directly to one of my laptop's usb-ports. i counted the messages i receive from the the analog input, when i enable it: 1 analog input enabled: ~960 values/s 2 analog inputs enabled: ~480 values/s per input 3 analog inputs enabled: ~320 values/s per input (and so on) would it be easy to change the code of the firmware, so that it sends the values of each analog input with a fixed rate (e.g. 100 Hz)? You could always run at a baud rate like 1200, so the arduino is not able to send more than 120 bytes per second. Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
