[PD] pixelTango CVS link
Hello, I recently tried to download the pixelTango CVS snapshot (http://cvs.sat.qc.ca/pixelTANGO.tar.gz) from the tot.sat.qc.ca website, but it brings up a 404 File Not Found error. Does anyone know if there's anywhere else I can get the file? Cheers, Jeff Dawson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ASDR
Rune Lain Knudsen a écrit : You can set the envelope to four points if you want to. I just wanted to have the option of having something more advanced than an adsr(aadddsrrr for example). Since sixty years of electronic music the need for an enveloppe generator with more than the four usual parameters has not been necessary, why would we need now an aaddsrr, what's the interest? what this patch will be used for? adsr(once I get the sustain into the patch) and lfo's and maybe some sequencing. An enveloppe might be neat for drawing lfo or vco waveshapes indeed, and even excellent if the curves could have another shape than a line. It would look like the enveloppe generator of some vst intrument like crystal synth. PC. ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ASDR
On 14/01/2007, at 13.17, Patco wrote: Since sixty years of electronic music the need for an enveloppe generator with more than the four usual parameters has not been necessary, why would we need now an aaddsrr, what's the interest? In the diy-synth scene people actually build that kind of envelope generators. To make new sounds seam an good reason why. Also envelopes of acoustic instruments aren't linear, hence multiple envelope points gives a possibility to do a quite good approximation (of say a logarithmic-like curve). See fx http://puredata.org/Members/ stffn/lin_env.png ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ASDR
Hallo, Patco hat gesagt: // Patco wrote: Rune Lain Knudsen a écrit : You can set the envelope to four points if you want to. I just wanted to have the option of having something more advanced than an adsr(aadddsrrr for example). Since sixty years of electronic music the need for an enveloppe generator with more than the four usual parameters has not been necessary, why would we need now an aaddsrr, what's the interest? Um, sorry, but that's not true: Even the early Music N saw the need to be able to define arbitrary length break point envelopes. Usually these are called GEN functions with a number afterwards. The ADSR so popular on commercial synths is just a simplied (some say: dumbed-down) version of a breakpoint GEN-function. And even the most popular hardware synth, the DX7, didn't have simple ADSRs but slightly more complex and powerful envelopes. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wave morphing
Hello, I didn't try this freeware, but it looks like very good, the info.html is explicitly show the fonctionning,then we could deduce how to proceed for doing something similar with this. Also I am not sure how one hundred of waveforms would be stored into the patch. I didnt looked into your patch yet but usually these waveforms are stored in one table as one sample. Your tabread object should run through one waveform at a time, I have to look up how much bytes they are but assume 256, so it runs from 0 to 255 and to switch to another waveform you add n*256 where n is the waveformnumber. When you switch with a line object over several waveforms, you get the wonderful crude ppg sound but you should make sure that it goes only whole numbers without fractions so it really jumps a whole waveform each step. It can be done by sending the moving number through an int object. Even in the boring rompler 'synthesizers' of the 90s all samples are usually stored in one big memorychunk. The Emu line of Proteus and Morpheus Synthesizers even let you change the wavestart, -end and loop settings beyond one sample borders so you can create rather sick material. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavetable Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ASDR
Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Patco hat gesagt: // Patco wrote: Rune Lain Knudsen a écrit : You can set the envelope to four points if you want to. I just wanted to have the option of having something more advanced than an adsr(aadddsrrr for example). Since sixty years of electronic music the need for an enveloppe generator with more than the four usual parameters has not been necessary, why would we need now an aaddsrr, what's the interest? Um, sorry, but that's not true: Even the early Music N saw the need to be able to define arbitrary length break point envelopes. Usually these are called GEN functions with a number afterwards. I've been looking a little bit for it but it's a little painfull to find something about sound generation, Csound apparently has a feature called GEN function but it looks very similar with just filling an array, right? The ADSR so popular on commercial synths is just a simplied (some say: dumbed-down) version of a breakpoint GEN-function. That makes sense, popular and commercial synth needed a standart and called it ADSR, but if musicians needed something more complex, why aren't there more synthetizers with this kind of feature? The shape of an enveloppe depends on what we want to do with, for example in drum boxes, the release is not necessary, even the sustain has been removed from most popular synth like the bassline. And even the most popular hardware synth, the DX7, didn't have simple ADSRs but slightly more complex and powerful envelopes. I am not sure about that, DX7 has the usual ADSR, and level, maybe the powerfull side is that we can edit a pitch and amplitude envelope for each operator, ciao, PC. ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wave morphing
Malte Steiner a écrit : I didnt looked into your patch yet but usually these waveforms are stored in one table as one sample. Oops, fortunately you didn't looked into the patch, there was, again, a missing abstraction which is attached. It's a kind of autorange but that outputs values between zero and one for a given pair of input range. This abstraction permits to slide between waveforms by adding them progressively Your tabread object should run through one waveform at a time, So the functionning seems different because my patch is about getting the average between to successive waveshapes, instead of passing from one to another without transition. I have to look up how much bytes they are but assume 256, so it runs from 0 to 255 and to switch to another waveform you add n*256 where n is the waveformnumber. Good, then the amount of samples won't get truncated with using one hundred of different waveforms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavetable thanks, PC. Cheers, Malte #N canvas 0 0 339 233 10; #N canvas 29 318 179 311 fade-morph 0; #X obj 42 8 inlet; #X obj 41 267 outlet; #X obj 42 114 change; #X obj 41 245 /; #X obj 42 157 -; #X obj 109 50 \$2; #X obj 127 118 / 2; #X obj 42 178 abs; #X obj 42 200 -; #X obj 42 222 abs; #X obj 42 135 - \$1; #X obj 42 30 t a b; #X obj 80 72 + \$1; #X obj 42 91 clip \$1; #X connect 0 0 11 0; #X connect 2 0 10 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 6 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 3 1; #X connect 6 0 8 1; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 10 0 4 0; #X connect 11 0 13 0; #X connect 11 1 5 0; #X connect 12 0 13 2; #X connect 13 0 2 0; #X restore 163 121 pd fade-morph; #X text 161 47 \$2 = ending fade out; #X text 161 26 \$1 = begining fade in; #X text 148 66 \$2/2 = top level; #X text 86 44 inlet; #X text 72 189 outlet = value between 0 and 1; #X obj 163 94 inlet; #X obj 163 145 outlet; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT: video automated compsiting
hi list, i need advice or a contractor for the following programming work: there is a battery test, where batteries are tested for safety. batteries are overcharged and exposed to pressure. one test can take up to 9 hours. the test is put on video by a hard disk video camera which produces movie pieces of 1.99 GB each. here are some examples (edited) http://www.extraenergy.org/files/ENAX_BatteryTest.mp4 http://www.extraenergy.org/files/EE_BatteryTest.mp4 from the test 7 sensors take data and save it in an table this is the device taking the data JUMO LOGOSCREEN cf http://www3.jumo.de/pio/product.do?uuid=dde161330a0a025d224701f0dfb8ca89 it stores the values on a cf-card / send it over serial port. the final thing should be a movie file with the sensor data visualized on top of it as a kind of overlay. the visualization and compositing should be an automated process. also the most of the time nothing happens in the video. in this case (sensors don't report a sudden change of values) the video should be displayed in fast forward. what should be developed is a software which creates the visual overlay for the video data. sync with the video data should be ensured. ok. any advice on how to approach this is very welcome. if you think you would like to do this as a contract, please answer me privately and include price and development time needed. it its kind of last minute, because there is a meeting with the customer tomorrow (in 6 hrs) so if anyone is interested react quickly. price can be an estimation but should include a maximum. max. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino: change read speed
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 14:31 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jan 13, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 10:50 -0500, Martin Peach wrote:
Also you could try changing the checkForInput function so that it
stays
there longer:
Change:
void checkForInput() {
if(Serial.available()) {
while(Serial.available()) {
processInput( (byte)Serial.read() );
}
}
}
to:
void checkForInput() {
int i = 100;
while (--i) {
if(Serial.available()) {
while(Serial.available()) {
processInput( (byte)Serial.read() );
}
}
}
}
this worked for me. messages TO the board don't get delayed anymore.
many thanks again.
:-)
Did this cause any added latency? I have seen the problems that you
have pointed out, but I haven't had a chance to debug them. I think
the key is to find ways to make things work at the full speed, rather
than find workarounds.
The processInput() stuff should probably be handled using an
interrupt so output messages don't get dropped. The tricky part
there is to handle output messages without causing jitter in the
input messages. That's the ultimate goal.
.hc
here a short (but a bit more detailed) report from my side:
i applied the proposed changes to the firmware-code and uploaded the new
version to the arduino board. after enabling analogIns it was still
possible to send messages to digitalOuts without any additional jitter.
but when i enable more than 3 analogIns, i have the same situation again
(as for now i can live with that). when 4 or more analogIns are enabled,
messages TO the board don't come through anymore and sometimes i even
need to close the connection in order to switch the analogIns off again
(closing [comport] has immediate effect, whereas turning analogIns off
might take up to 10s or more).
i measured again with the patched version, how many values i receive in
pd from the analogIns. Interestingly, i still get around 968 values per
seconds. that means, that martin peach's patch doesn't affect
performance of the arduino board, but increases the amount of enabled
analogIns whitout having jitter from 0 (original version) to 3 (martin
peach's version).
maybe it looks stupid from a coder perspective, but i will test if i can
make it work with all analogIns enabled by increasing the while loop to
200 iterations (1 iteration = no analogIn; 100 iterations = 3 analogIns;
200 iterations = 6 analogIns?)
roman
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Re: [PD] floathotel and/or maphash and compiling for OS X
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Has anyone compiled Orm Finnendah*l*'s floathotel and/or maphash objects for Mac OS X Intel? see: http://icem-www.folkwang-hochschule.de/~finnendahl/pd.html They don't seem to be in Pd-extended, unless I've missed them. You can build your own floathotel as an abstraction easily. Basically it's already done with the [list-extend] and [list-find] abstraction that are part of the [list]-abs collection in CVS and pd-extended. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ That's great news, thanks, Frank. However, what are these list-extend and list-find objects you speak of? I don't see it in my list-abs collection (PD 0.39.2-extended-test7, Mac i386, Jan. 5) -- was it a very recent addition to list-abs? Phil Stone UC Davis OK, I see them there in CVS, but that puts me back to my original problem, of compiling for OS X. Or have they found there way into the nightly builds of PD-extended in the last few days? Phil ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] floathotel and/or maphash and compiling for OS X
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Has anyone compiled Orm Finnendah*l*'s floathotel and/or maphash objects for Mac OS X Intel? see: http://icem-www.folkwang-hochschule.de/~finnendahl/pd.html They don't seem to be in Pd-extended, unless I've missed them. You can build your own floathotel as an abstraction easily. Basically it's already done with the [list-extend] and [list-find] abstraction that are part of the [list]-abs collection in CVS and pd-extended. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ That's great news, thanks, Frank. However, what are these list-extend and list-find objects you speak of? I don't see it in my list-abs collection (PD 0.39.2-extended-test7, Mac i386, Jan. 5) -- was it a very recent addition to list-abs? Phil Stone UC Davis OK, I see them there in CVS, but that puts me back to my original problem, of compiling for OS X. Or have they found there way into the nightly builds of PD-extended in the last few days? Phil OK, duh, sorry! I just realized they are abstractions, so never mind about the compiling! What a dummy I can be. Phil ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] floathotel and/or maphash and compiling for OS X
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Has anyone compiled Orm Finnendah*l*'s floathotel and/or maphash objects for Mac OS X Intel? see: http://icem-www.folkwang-hochschule.de/~finnendahl/pd.html They don't seem to be in Pd-extended, unless I've missed them. You can build your own floathotel as an abstraction easily. Basically it's already done with the [list-extend] and [list-find] abstraction that are part of the [list]-abs collection in CVS and pd-extended. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ That's great news, thanks, Frank. However, what are these list-extend and list-find objects you speak of? I don't see it in my list-abs collection (PD 0.39.2-extended-test7, Mac i386, Jan. 5) -- was it a very recent addition to list-abs? Phil Stone UC Davis ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
Hey Hans-Christoph Just installed test 7 on a MacBook Core 2 Are delwrite~/delread~/vd~ broken? I can't get any sound from them... Maybe I'm missing something specific to the new computer. cheers dafydd On 1/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, let's stress test! This is the last test release before release candidates, so report bugs now! * Gem should be installed and working on all platforms * the MSD (Mass-Spring-Damper) externals are included * included Thomas Grill's Mac/Intel fixes for iemlib and cyclone * Universal binaries for flext externals * working 10.3 build http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
Hey Hans-Christoph Just installed test 7 on a MacBook Core 2 Are delwrite~/delread~/vd~ broken? I can't get any sound from them... Maybe I'm missing something specific to the new computer. cheers dafydd On 1/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, let's stress test! This is the last test release before release candidates, so report bugs now! * Gem should be installed and working on all platforms * the MSD (Mass-Spring-Damper) externals are included * included Thomas Grill's Mac/Intel fixes for iemlib and cyclone * Universal binaries for flext externals * working 10.3 build http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wiiremote b4
If you have the whole dev layout checked out, then: cd pure-data/externals make wiiremote ls -l io/wiiremote/wiiremote.pd_darwin I posted a binary on this list, check the archives. .hc On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Stefano Papetti wrote: Hello Hans, thanks for porting it! I'm not able to compile the cvs version with make under MacOSX 10.4.8. Could you please tell me which are the commands to get it compiled? Many thanks, Stefano Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
