[PD] slowly load a pd-patches/abs without dropouts
hi list i'd like to open patches or dynamically create abstractions during a performance without having dropouts. that's why i'm trying to build a system that slowly loads a patch. instead [; pd open patch-name.pd path( or [; pd-subpatchname obj 10 10 abstraction-name args( it reads the patch with [textfile] and creates the objects slowly line by line. a problem was to rebuild the exact order of the subpatches. as far as i tested it works now. if a patch doesn't load correctly please let me know and send it to me. to identify subpatches and place the objects in the right place it adds a number in front of the sub-patch name like this: [pd *id*-subpatchname]. -- just found out there is a msg [; pd-subpatchname rename newname(, after renaming the sub-patch to it's original names the is no visual update, besides that it works fine. an other problem was with the array from Menu / Put / Array. it loads now even with content. any comments are welcome. eni slowlyopen.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slowly load a pd-patches/abs without dropouts
At 11:56 20.01.2007, Enrique Erne wrote: hi list i'd like to open patches or dynamically create abstractions during a performance without having dropouts. that's why i'm trying to build a system that slowly loads a patch. instead [; pd open patch-name.pd path( or [; pd-subpatchname obj 10 10 abstraction-name args( it reads the patch with [textfile] and creates the objects slowly line by line. urg. really? that's what i call WORKAROUNDISM. A DANGEROUS IDEOLOGY. scnr ;-) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] IanniX 0.639b online
Hi IanniX 0.639b is now online with new examples : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=174402 Any feedback, comment, bug report, etc, would be greatly appreciated and can be posted to the following mailing-list: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iannix-discussion The IanniX Team. ___ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slowly load a pd-patches/abs without dropouts
hello personally, i think it is not worth that much effort. unfortunately creating a patch dynamically is NOT the same as 'executing' each line of the pd-file. this makes slow dynamic creation much more complicated than necessary. also, in order to follow your rule to do EVERYTHIN slowly, you would have to turn every instance of an abstraction into an subpatch and therefore you would need to parse all dollararguments and convert them to their appropriate values. probably there are many problems more, which don't come to mind right now. this approach is like netpd started in the beginning, but it turned out, that this adds too much complexity. anyway, i think that these kind of problems shouldn't be solved in the userspace, but in pd itself, since that is a general problem. it would be interesting, if there is ever a chance, that pd loads patches without dropouts or if this is impossible by design. there are other similar problems, that cause dropouts, which might be easier to solve like dropouts on full network buffer or writing and reading files. roman On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 11:56 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: hi list i'd like to open patches or dynamically create abstractions during a performance without having dropouts. that's why i'm trying to build a system that slowly loads a patch. instead [; pd open patch-name.pd path( or [; pd-subpatchname obj 10 10 abstraction-name args( it reads the patch with [textfile] and creates the objects slowly line by line. a problem was to rebuild the exact order of the subpatches. as far as i tested it works now. if a patch doesn't load correctly please let me know and send it to me. to identify subpatches and place the objects in the right place it adds a number in front of the sub-patch name like this: [pd *id*-subpatchname]. -- just found out there is a msg [; pd-subpatchname rename newname(, after renaming the sub-patch to it's original names the is no visual update, besides that it works fine. an other problem was with the array from Menu / Put / Array. it loads now even with content. any comments are welcome. eni ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no text support in gem under OSX
My copy of 0.39-extended-test4 seems to do [text3d] and other font-related stuff just fine. best, d. maciej wojnicki wrote: hello list I have a problem with this message: Gem has been compiled without font support. that I recieve when trying to use text3d object I know that thishave been discussed before on this list and the end point was tha implementation of thex under OSX is not finished. I`d like to know if there is any version of gem available with text support on OSX or is it possible to compile it and if so then could someone help me with it as I have no idea how to compile it myself. I need this text badly, please help! Thanks in advance. maciej. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=41244/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 123: Once the search has begun, something will be found ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] slowly load a pd-patches/abs without dropouts
Am 20.01.2007 um 13:33 schrieb Tim Blechmann: i'd like to open patches or dynamically create abstractions during a performance without having dropouts. that's why i'm trying to build a system that slowly loads a patch. instead [; pd open patch-name.pd path( or [; pd-subpatchname obj 10 10 abstraction-name args( it reads the patch with [textfile] and creates the objects slowly line by line. thomas grill's dyn~ external is supposed to load objects similarly (actually, i'm not up to date, if he only had the idea, or if he actually implemented this ... i had the idea, but you know that it's actually impossible without changing the pd core. dyn~ currently uses pd functions which means that it can't avoid clicks when loading. Parsing and loading a pd patcher file line by line won't really help when there are large abstractions in it... you will have to recursively parse these too, otherwise pd will load them as large single chunks. greetings, Thomas -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no text support in gem under OSX
maciej wojnicki wrote: hello list I have a problem with this message: Gem has been compiled without font support. that I recieve when trying to use text3d object I know that thishave been discussed before on this list and the end point was tha implementation of thex under OSX is not finished. i don't know know where you have heard this, but it is definitely wrong. I`d like to know if there is any version of gem available with text see http://gem.iem.at all official versions of Gem come with text support (afaik) support on OSX or is it possible to compile it and if so then could someone help me with it as I have no idea how to compile it myself. obivously it is possible to compile Gem, sice the devs do so ;-) compiling a _basic_ Gem is as simple as: installing the xcode tools. checkout Gem open a console, cd Gem/src and do make (running make will run aclocal, autoconf, ./configure and make) this however, will still give you no text-support. (but at least you have managed to compile Gem; this is a good start) to add text support you need freetype2 and FTGL; the latter is part of GemLibs. to install freetype2 either get it from the web (afaik this is a sourceforge probject) and compile+install it (according to the documentation that comes with it) the simpler way is, to install the freetype2 and freetype2-dev packages via fink. then compile and install FTGL (open the FTGL-project in GemLibs/FTGL/mac, adapt to your paths and compile) then run ./configure in Gem/src (after running aclocal and autoconf once!), probably with some paths to point to your FTGL-installation (see ./configure --help) fmg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pack/unpack
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, forgot how to get the result to be a condensed h u p (hup). Attachment below... Perhaps an extra bang is needed. Did it before in a patch that freezes on startup now. at the risk of sounding sarcastic: it would be interesting to know what you are talking about mfg.asdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pack/unpack
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 19:13 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, forgot how to get the result to be a condensed h u p (hup). Attachment below... Perhaps an extra bang is needed. Did it before in a patch that freezes on startup now. at the risk of sounding sarcastic: it would be interesting to know what you are talking about from guessing i'd say you want to convert a message [list h u p( to [symbol hup(. (am i right?). there is [list2symbol(, which is part of zexy, and iirc, there is also an abstraction in franks list-abs-library, that can do the same without using externals. i agree with IOhannes, that there would have been ways to say more clearly, what you want effectively. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pack/unpack
yeah, like making h u p hup. Tried having [list2symbol('s outlet
go to [symbol $1$2$3( but no luck. Regarding the first message I sent,
I guess its clearer from looking at the attachment
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Re: [PD] pack/unpack
Ah yes I see. Then Roman is closer with [list2symbol]. But you want to concat symbols without the separator (whitespace). Hmm, not sure, I'll have to pass on that for now. On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:46:47 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, thanks for the patch, was only trying to get h, u, and p all to be one word. You eliminated the $2$3 garbage, I'm sure though that there's some way to get it to just be one tighter word. I really think I did it before, and it looked something like that attached patch. yeah, my first message sounded super-silly. dont worry about this hup issue Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] compiling plugin~ for OS X 10.4 - final steps?
Referencing this message: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-12/044837.html from Hans on 5 Dec 2006: FYI, I just enabled the building of [plugin~] on Mac OS X. So it should be included in nightly builds and upcoming test and final releases. end quote I am not sure that this is actually the case, as I don't see it anywhere still (autobuild dir doesn't go back as far as this message). Hans, I would be interested to know what you did to get it to compile. I am still getting errors even after installing the ladspa (and ladspa-dev) libs via Fink. Here's my terminal output (I'm still a relative newbie at compiling so I don't understand exactly what this means): klangisch:~/externals/plugin~ kmccoy$ scons scons: Reading SConscript files ... scons: done reading SConscript files. scons: Building targets ... gcc -dynamiclib -o plugin~.pd_linux jload.os jsearch.os plugin~.os ld: Undefined symbols: _class_addmethod _class_new _dsp_addv _gensym _inlet_free _inlet_new _nullfn _outlet_anything _outlet_free _outlet_new _pd_new _post _sys_getsr /usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed scons: *** [plugin~.pd_linux] Error 1 scons: building terminated because of errors. Any help appreciated very much! I have tons of ladspa plugins just waiting to be used :) Kevin -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
On OS X 10.4.8 PPC, I can't create OSCroute or dumpOSC. ~Kyle On 1/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, let's stress test! This is the last test release before release candidates, so report bugs now! * Gem should be installed and working on all platforms * the MSD (Mass-Spring-Damper) externals are included * included Thomas Grill's Mac/Intel fixes for iemlib and cyclone * Universal binaries for flext externals * working 10.3 build http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gem-window
Hi list I know - this is a redundant question... (had this before but I lost it) - how do I pop up ther gem window when starting a patch without the console or any other pd item on the screen? (meaning just the picture, without frames or buttons) Thanks for help - Achim ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pack/unpack
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
yeah, like making h u p hup. Tried having [list2symbol('s outlet
go to [symbol $1$2$3( but no luck.
You don't need zexy's list2symbol for that
[list h u p(
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[$1$2$3(
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[print]
gives hup.
PC.
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[PD] [announce] OpenGLUI (*)
It's that time of the year again As part of tesla's 'open studio days' during the transmediale festival, glui opens its doors for anyone interested in sensors, interfaces, and music technology in general 1-3.Feb 18:00-23:00 Tesla im Podewils'schen Palais Klosterstr. 68-70 10179 Berlin U2 Klosterstraße Room 146 http://tesla-berlin.de http://www.transmediale.de http://glui.de other open studios at Tesla: valentina vuksic, seiko mikami, jost muxfeldt, jens brand, reboot fm, omer krieger, rodrigo derteano, gert- jan prins bas van koolwijk, jeff mann, michael schumacher other events at Tesla linked to transmediale: chris salter, michaela grill martin siewert seeya, Sukandar (*) just to make sure after last year's confusion: OpenGLUI has nothing to do with OpenGL ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] start flags
there a way to send startup flags to pd other than clicking the startup menu and writing them there on Mac and Windows? Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
