Re: [PD] minor but persistent annoyances
the worst is when you have a bunch of subpatches that you don't need to edit or look at after you do the initial coding. ..if you save your main patch 40 or 50 times, those 3 or 4 pixels really add up, and all your subpatches grow really huge. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...
On 27/02/2007, at 14.37, padawan12 wrote: I had so much joy discovering things like g-canvas, vdn~ and xplay~ From where is vdn~ ? I can't just find it: $ pwd /path/to/cvsroot/externals $ grep -iR vdn * Binary file dfx/original/polarizer-source.sit matches Binary file pmpd/doc/pmpd.pdf/pmpd.sxw matches Binary file pmpd/doc/pmpd.sxw matches $ find . -iname '*vdn*' $ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD-list Digest, Vol 23, Issue 157
No offense taken. It only really bothers me when I use Mac, since Windows allows users to resize windows from any edge. I don't use Mac much, so it doesn't bother me much either, but it bothers some of the virtually computer-illiterate musicians I want to use my programs. -Chuckk On 2/26/07, robbert van hulzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't mean to offend. i'm not saying it's not a bug, but it hasn't bothered me too much (my patches don't have that many windows). robbert Chuckk Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You lost me at just. That you can fix it by opening a patch in a text editor, finding and adjusting all the affected windows, saving the file, and reopening it in Pd doesn't mean it's not a bug! -Chuckk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] minor but persistent annoyances
On 2/27/07, Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) that a patch canvas can be bigger then the screen size since a solution to the one might not be a solution to the other. As for the second. We have different screens with different resolutions and size. So what can fit on one screen might not fit on another screen. Nothing wrong with that. But it would sure be nice if Pd or tk/tcl or both would resize the patch and add scroll bars such that it fit into the screen incase it was meant to be bigger. Another problem I've had with this is when I edited a patch on a system with dual monitors, and then opened it on my home computer and some subpatches were actually completely off my screen. Thankfully I was using Windows, so I could hit Alt+Space and M to move the windows. -Chuckk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: On 27/02/2007, at 14.37, padawan12 wrote: I had so much joy discovering things like g-canvas, vdn~ and xplay~ From where is vdn~ ? I can't just find it: I guess it's a typo and Andy wanted to write [fdn~] from Creb. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] minor but persistent annoyances
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: I don't suppose I'm wrong by stating that linux users have the same problem, but just have better control over the window system such that resizing the windows is an easy job. I don't know about Apple, but you can run Blackbox on Windows instead of the standard GUI and make everybody think you're ubercool and run Linux. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++
Ive got cyclone zexy list-abs mapping iemlib hid activated. Same libs activated in the latest release but the below objects are now broken. I thought the below objects where part of PD... T. On 27 Feb 2007, at 03:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:46 AM, timon wrote: Zexy objects - aliases - are all broken I don't support aliases at in Pd-extended, I think they are kludgey. But someone else could do the work to get them working, I suppose. Alternate - broken line3 - broken remote - broken randomF - broken ascseq - broken invert - broken Which libs? I don't know the story on any of these. That is strange. Does it mean the general PD source has been changed? - Without the knowledge of repairing any of this Ill be stuck with test 4 (a very stable release by the way). Which libs are these loaded from in test4? .hc Thanks for the note, Timon. .hc They have all been fully working objects in the past. Is there a reason for them to be disabled or have they migrated to a different library? If so what library? And finally, is there a way of keeping track of such changes? Thanks, timon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom -- -- All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++
timon wrote: Ive got cyclone zexy list-abs mapping iemlib hid activated. Same libs activated in the latest release but the below objects are now broken. Alternate - broken line3 - broken randomF - broken invert - broken this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are called [alternate] and [tripleLine]). obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem (markEx used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer) remote - broken ascseq - broken at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and iemlib. Which libs? I don't know the story on any of these. if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the help-patches for the borken objects. both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these might reveal which libraries they belong to. mfga.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd39.2 test 7 - text objects ++
line3 is in nusmuk folder, it is not related to any lib. hope that help cyrille IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : timon wrote: Ive got cyclone zexy list-abs mapping iemlib hid activated. Same libs activated in the latest release but the below objects are now broken. Alternate - broken line3 - broken randomF - broken invert - broken this _might_ relate to markEx (even though the markEx objects are called [alternate] and [tripleLine]). obviously markEx is not loaded, so this might be your problem (markEx used to be part of Gem in the golden days, but is no longer) remote - broken ascseq - broken at least these objects are not in Gem/markEx, zexy, list-abs and iemlib. Which libs? I don't know the story on any of these. if you still have your old pd-extended version lying around (the one where these objects do work), you could start that one and open the help-patches for the borken objects. both the content of the help-patches and the full path of these might reveal which libraries they belong to. mfga.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem - fading
hello, for alpha check out the gem help section 5.reference alpha.pd best erich - http://randomseed.org On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Nikola Jeremic wrote: hi list 1. i would like to fade my gem objects - fade to color (black), or fade to alpha channel. Is there any other way how i can make my object vissible/invissible (but not sending 0-1 to gem_win). thanx n. -- www.echoplex-label.de/njeremic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem - fading
hi nikola of course, this is possible, even very simple: [gemhead] | [alpha] [slider with range 0-1] - connect this to the 4th inlet |/ [colorRGB] [colorRGB] | [some geo aka. gem-object] you might also look at the helpfiles of: [alpha] [colorRGB] [color] roman On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 14:30 +0100, Nikola Jeremic wrote: hi list 1. i would like to fade my gem objects - fade to color (black), or fade to alpha channel. Is there any other way how i can make my object vissible/invissible (but not sending 0-1 to gem_win). thanx n. -- www.echoplex-label.de/njeremic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...
There's a lot of very useful stuff in the Xjimmies abstractions in terms of readymade utilities and effects for newbies to use/take apart/remodel/etc. http://www.tot.sat.qc.ca/eng/nslam.html And yes, [fdn~] is very cool too... d. padawan12 wrote: But it's not either/or with Pd cos it's also got a massive toybox of funky externals is there to play with in extended when you want to just have fun and not bother yourself with the exact gubbins of every object you use. I had so much joy discovering things like g-canvas, vdn~ and xplay~ , they really kept up interest and enthusiasm for the program. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 100: It is quite possible ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...
Ooh I have not seen this before, thanks for sharing! ~Kyle On 2/27/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot of very useful stuff in the Xjimmies abstractions in terms of readymade utilities and effects for newbies to use/take apart/remodel/etc. http://www.tot.sat.qc.ca/eng/nslam.html And yes, [fdn~] is very cool too... d. padawan12 wrote: But it's not either/or with Pd cos it's also got a massive toybox of funky externals is there to play with in extended when you want to just have fun and not bother yourself with the exact gubbins of every object you use. I had so much joy discovering things like g-canvas, vdn~ and xplay~ , they really kept up interest and enthusiasm for the program. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 100: It is quite possible ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...
On 27/02/2007, at 12.21, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: On 27/02/2007, at 14.37, padawan12 wrote: I had so much joy discovering things like g-canvas, vdn~ and xplay~ From where is vdn~ ? I can't just find it: I guess it's a typo and Andy wanted to write [fdn~] from Creb. Oh. Ok. Thanks for straightening it. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] fluxbox/X11 keymappings
I think it's more a kernel question - in Ubuntu it's F12 for right-click, not sure about other distros. K On 2/26/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone (with a one-button Mac, perhaps) know how to emulate a right-click or control-click in Fluxbox/X11? Would be handy while patching with my ppc-linux laptop when I forget the USB mouse. thx, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 50: Distort time ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Dynamic patching questions
Am 18.02.2007 um 14:30 schrieb Patco: Alexandre Quessy a écrit : 1) Is it possible to delete and disconnect objects without clearing the whole canvas ? yes [find 'objectname', cut( and [findagain, cut( hi patco, list, could you elaborate this a bit? how should that work? not like this obviously: dynamic.pd Description: Binary data thanks, max___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cpu issues
Ideally, we'd profile it to see what is actually using the CPU. Do you have XCode, etc. installed? .hc On Feb 14, 2007, at 11:30 AM, marius schebella wrote: I am using the latest intel version, Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7- macosx104-i386.dmg should I try an autobuild version, or any other suggestions? m. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 is available compiled both for PowerPC and Intel (separately, not Universal Binary). Are you using the Intel version? This is the first I've heard of this. .hc On Feb 13, 2007, at 4:22 AM, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi Marius, from what i now 0.39.2 is not a UB, so it will run under emulation. You have to use a Intel-native version to achieve adequate performance. greetings, Thomas Am 13.02.2007 um 00:53 schrieb marius schebella: hi, I am running Pd 0.39.2-extended-test7 on a macbookpro. starting pd and doing nothing gives me 18% of cpu load! and another problem is, when I use oggcast~ and osx falls to sleep mode, then later I cannot quit pd anymore. the pd process stays alive and it happened twice to me that after some time, when I did not recognize it, that process was eating up to 150%. anybody have ideas about shutting those leaking wholes? marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http:// lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] fluxbox/X11 keymappings
I think there is some emulated device where you use F10 and F11 or something like that as the extra mouse buttons. .hc On Feb 26, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: Anyone (with a one-button Mac, perhaps) know how to emulate a right-click or control-click in Fluxbox/X11? Would be handy while patching with my ppc-linux laptop when I forget the USB mouse. thx, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 50: Distort time ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Feature Requests for Google Summer of Co
It's possible and would be an appropriate project, I think. .hc On Feb 20, 2007, at 3:33 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I don't know if this is something worthy for the summer of code... or at all... but I would love PDP to work on Windows ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Creb and PDP libraries incomplete in 39 extended on MacIntel 10.4.8
Please file a bug report for anything that doesn't work properly. .hc On Feb 19, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Yes, I also cannot load all pdp objects with this release on my G4 PowerBook. ~Kyle On 2/19/07, Mark Pasquesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings. Below is cut from my PD window: I use - MAc OS 10.4.8, Intel minimac.1.83 duo. I have installed Dev tools, Fink and x11 to help me along the way. I also use a portable g4 (500 Mhz) on OSX10.3.5 to test things on. It has Dev tools and x11 (unfinked at the moment). PDP problem named at opening (Architecture and library for pdp). (pdip example works for communication-pddplink-test). pdp is missing nearly all pdp objects when tested. Creb is missing onecomp object, biquadseries, and ibfft. Hit or miss for object used in examples. Should I compile Creb and pdp independently? Confused if I should do all through terminal or x11, or instead drag and drop after doing a control click inside PD extended to open the package??? or should I just try to compile there?? Thanks /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp: can't load library error: .printout.text: no such object error: .printout.text: no such object error: filterortho~: can't load abstraction within itself filterortho~ ... couldn't create filterortho~.pd 3 0 0 0 (canvas-dac~) connection failed filterortho~.pd 3 0 0 1 (canvas-dac~) connection failed filterortho~.pd 9 0 3 0 (*~-canvas) connection failed filterortho~.pd 17 0 3 0 (message-canvas) connection failed error: inlet: expected '' but got 'setHP' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: inlet: expected '' but got 'setLP' warning: sample123: multiply defined warning: sample123: multiply defined onecomp~ ... couldn't create fdn: maximum nb of delay lines 8, total buffer size 65536 samples (1.486077 seconds) error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored) Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Gem] angles - vector translation
It would be very nice to have these bundled up into a reusable library. I think the view changing with the mouse should be a standard setup when working with Gem. .hc On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Wow you guys, these are great patches. Thanks for saving me all the mouse-clicks! ~Kyle On 2/24/07, Patco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marius schebella a écrit : one thing to improve that cameramodel, is to flip the view when one of the angles (usually called phi) gets to big or to small. so that the cube does not flip around. see attached patch. m. Hello, with sending object 's coordinates, can choose where the camera is viewing, like we can see in attached patch. PC #N canvas 469 151 466 446 10; #N canvas 7 0 547 707 ch_gemwin 0; #X obj 285 171 f; #X obj 206 152 spigot; #X obj 267 143 sel 0 1; #X obj 237 124 t f f; #X obj 206 200 -; #X obj 206 249 +; #X obj 267 213 f; #X obj 159 168 f; #X obj 80 149 spigot; #X obj 141 140 sel 0 1; #X obj 122 114 t f f; #X obj 80 200 -; #X obj 80 249 +; #X obj 141 210 f; #X obj 406 162 f; #X obj 327 146 spigot; #X obj 388 137 sel 0 1; #X obj 358 118 t f f; #X obj 327 197 -; #X obj 388 207 f; #X obj 80 465 * 4; #X obj 135 467 * 4; #X obj 156 308 t b f; #X obj 94 372 cos; #X obj 106 430 * 1; #X obj 80 430 * 1; #X obj 132 373 sin; #X obj 107 466 * 4; #X obj 94 394 t b f; #X obj 94 348 / 200; #X obj 458 49 gemmouse; #X obj 515 135 t b f; #X obj 515 164 |; #X obj 487 240 gemhead; #X obj 491 193 loadbang; #X msg 487 215 0; #X obj 487 315 curve 2; #X obj 487 266 color 1 0 0; #X obj 571 240 gemhead; #X obj 571 315 curve 2; #X obj 651 242 gemhead; #X obj 651 317 curve 2; #X msg 524 289 3 0 0; #X msg 608 289 0 3 0; #X msg 688 291 0 0 3; #X obj 571 266 color 0 1 0; #X obj 651 268 color 0 0 1; #X obj 80 308 sin; #X obj 106 309 cos; #X obj 327 246 + 200; #X obj 157 282 / 50; #X obj 80 283 / -200; #X obj 18 12 inlet; #X obj 29 650 outlet; #X obj 60 14 inlet; #X obj 215 19 inlet; #X obj 132 15 inlet; #X obj 213 44 * 5; #X obj 59 82 / 127; #X obj 60 61 * 400; #X obj 131 82 / 127; #X obj 131 58 * 200; #X obj 131 36 * -3.14; #X obj 60 37 * 3.14; #X obj 30 622 gemwin 10; #X obj 175 408 r \$0-target; #X obj 175 437 list trim; #X msg 89 600 view \$1 \$2 \$3 \$4 \$5 \$6 0 1 0; #X obj 88 575 pack f f f 0 0 0; #X obj 210 496 unpack f f f; #X connect 0 0 4 1; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 2 1 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 3 1 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 5 0 29 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 7 0 11 1; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 9 0 13 0; #X connect 9 1 7 0; #X connect 10 0 8 1; #X connect 10 1 9 0; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 12 0 13 1; #X connect 12 0 51 0; #X connect 13 0 12 1; #X connect 14 0 18 1; #X connect 15 0 18 0; #X connect 16 0 19 0; #X connect 16 1 14 0; #X connect 17 0 15 1; #X connect 17 1 16 0; #X connect 18 0 49 0; #X connect 19 0 49 1; #X connect 20 0 68 0; #X connect 21 0 68 2; #X connect 22 0 21 0; #X connect 22 0 20 0; #X connect 22 0 27 0; #X connect 22 1 21 1; #X connect 22 1 20 1; #X connect 22 1 27 1; #X connect 23 0 28 0; #X connect 24 0 21 0; #X connect 25 0 20 0; #X connect 26 0 27 0; #X connect 27 0 68 1; #X connect 28 0 24 0; #X connect 28 0 25 0; #X connect 28 1 24 1; #X connect 28 1 25 1; #X connect 29 0 23 0; #X connect 29 0 26 0; #X connect 30 0 8 0; #X connect 30 0 7 1; #X connect 30 1 1 0; #X connect 30 1 0 1; #X connect 30 1 14 1; #X connect 30 1 15 0; #X connect 30 2 3 0; #X connect 30 2 10 0; #X connect 30 2 32 0; #X connect 30 3 17 0; #X connect 30 3 31 0; #X connect 31 0 32 0; #X connect 31 1 32 1; #X connect 32 0 33 0; #X connect 32 0 38 0; #X connect 32 0 40 0; #X connect 33 0 37 0; #X connect 34 0 35 0; #X connect 34 0 42 0; #X connect 34 0 43 0; #X connect 34 0 44 0; #X connect 34 0 51 0; #X connect 34 0 49 0; #X connect 35 0 33 0; #X connect 35 0 38 0; #X connect 35 0 40 0; #X connect 37 0 36 0; #X connect 38 0 45 0; #X connect 40 0 46 0; #X connect 42 0 36 2; #X connect 43 0 39 2; #X connect 44 0 41 2; #X connect 45 0 39 0; #X connect 46 0 41 0; #X connect 47 0 25 0; #X connect 48 0 24 0; #X connect 49 0 19 1; #X connect 49 0 50 0; #X connect 50 0 22 0; #X connect 51 0 47 0; #X connect 51 0 48 0; #X connect 52 0 64 0; #X connect 54 0 63 0; #X connect 55 0 57 0; #X connect 56 0 62 0; #X connect 57 0 50 0; #X connect 58 0 51 0; #X connect 59 0 58 0; #X connect 60 0 29 0; #X connect 61 0 60 0; #X connect 62 0 61 0; #X connect 63 0 59 0; #X connect 64 0 53 0; #X connect 65 0 66 0; #X connect 66 0 69 0; #X connect 67 0 64 0; #X connect 68 0 67 0; #X connect 69 0 68 3; #X connect 69 1 68 4; #X connect 69 2 68 5; #X restore 219 190 pd ch_gemwin; #X obj 265 98 hsl 128 15 0 127 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 272 115 hsl 128 15 0 127 0 0
Re: [PD] Dynamic patching questions
Am 27.02.2007 um 16:59 schrieb Max Neupert: Am 18.02.2007 um 14:30 schrieb Patco: Alexandre Quessy a écrit : 1) Is it possible to delete and disconnect objects without clearing the whole canvas ? yes [find 'objectname', cut( and [findagain, cut( hi patco, list, could you elaborate this a bit? how should that work? ok, maybe more coffee was needed. i've found the answer. interesting is that pd enters the edit mode when deleting an object, but not when creating one. dynamic.pd Description: Binary data max___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Dynamic patching questions
Max Neupert a écrit : Am 27.02.2007 um 16:59 schrieb Max Neupert: Am 18.02.2007 um 14:30 schrieb Patco: Alexandre Quessy a écrit : 1) Is it possible to delete and disconnect objects without clearing the whole canvas ? yes [find 'objectname', cut( and [findagain, cut( hi patco, list, could you elaborate this a bit? how should that work? ok, maybe more coffee was needed. i've found the answer. interesting is that pd enters the edit mode when deleting an object, but not when creating one. max hello, you might need to create your iem gui into a subpatch for finding their individual name, an example is attached, pc. #N canvas 228 55 628 380 10; #X msg 101 370 \; findagain \, cut; #X msg 217 302 \; find label \, cut; #X text 76 130 create; #X text 333 62 destroy??; #X msg 338 301 \; find 'label' \, cut; #X obj 109 154 t a a; #X floatatom 200 42 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 87 154 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 95 199 pack \$0 f f; #X obj 342 80 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 260 118 pack \$0 f; #X obj 141 175 * 40; #X text 187 21 x coordinate of obj and \$0 is the label index; #X msg 245 141 \; pd-dynamic_gop.pd find \$1tgl\$2 \, cut \, editmode 0; #X msg 96 226 \; pd-dynamic_gop.pd obj 10 \$3 pd \$1tgl\$2 \; pd-\$1tgl\$2 obj 100 100 tgl 15 0 sendsymbol receivesymbol label 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 \, donecanvasdialog 1 -1 1 0 -1 1 1 30 30 99 99 \, vis 0; #X connect 5 0 8 1; #X connect 5 1 11 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 6 0 10 1; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 14 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 13 0; #X connect 11 0 8 2; #X coords 0 0 1 1 99 99 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cpu issues
yes. (right now I Pd uses 9% without a patchwindow open). m. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ideally, we'd profile it to see what is actually using the CPU. Do you have XCode, etc. installed? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Gem] angles - vector translation
the problem is, that I have not solved all of the methematics behind it. I wanted to build an interface like in blender or maya, that also lets you shift the scene around and left/right. the problem I have is when the world switches to head down. then it screws/flips someway around... marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be very nice to have these bundled up into a reusable library. I think the view changing with the mouse should be a standard setup when working with Gem. .hc On Feb 25, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Wow you guys, these are great patches. Thanks for saving me all the mouse-clicks! ~Kyle On 2/24/07, Patco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marius schebella a écrit : one thing to improve that cameramodel, is to flip the view when one of the angles (usually called phi) gets to big or to small. so that the cube does not flip around. see attached patch. m. Hello, with sending object 's coordinates, can choose where the camera is viewing, like we can see in attached patch. PC #N canvas 469 151 466 446 10; #N canvas 7 0 547 707 ch_gemwin 0; #X obj 285 171 f; #X obj 206 152 spigot; #X obj 267 143 sel 0 1; #X obj 237 124 t f f; #X obj 206 200 -; #X obj 206 249 +; #X obj 267 213 f; #X obj 159 168 f; #X obj 80 149 spigot; #X obj 141 140 sel 0 1; #X obj 122 114 t f f; #X obj 80 200 -; #X obj 80 249 +; #X obj 141 210 f; #X obj 406 162 f; #X obj 327 146 spigot; #X obj 388 137 sel 0 1; #X obj 358 118 t f f; #X obj 327 197 -; #X obj 388 207 f; #X obj 80 465 * 4; #X obj 135 467 * 4; #X obj 156 308 t b f; #X obj 94 372 cos; #X obj 106 430 * 1; #X obj 80 430 * 1; #X obj 132 373 sin; #X obj 107 466 * 4; #X obj 94 394 t b f; #X obj 94 348 / 200; #X obj 458 49 gemmouse; #X obj 515 135 t b f; #X obj 515 164 |; #X obj 487 240 gemhead; #X obj 491 193 loadbang; #X msg 487 215 0; #X obj 487 315 curve 2; #X obj 487 266 color 1 0 0; #X obj 571 240 gemhead; #X obj 571 315 curve 2; #X obj 651 242 gemhead; #X obj 651 317 curve 2; #X msg 524 289 3 0 0; #X msg 608 289 0 3 0; #X msg 688 291 0 0 3; #X obj 571 266 color 0 1 0; #X obj 651 268 color 0 0 1; #X obj 80 308 sin; #X obj 106 309 cos; #X obj 327 246 + 200; #X obj 157 282 / 50; #X obj 80 283 / -200; #X obj 18 12 inlet; #X obj 29 650 outlet; #X obj 60 14 inlet; #X obj 215 19 inlet; #X obj 132 15 inlet; #X obj 213 44 * 5; #X obj 59 82 / 127; #X obj 60 61 * 400; #X obj 131 82 / 127; #X obj 131 58 * 200; #X obj 131 36 * -3.14; #X obj 60 37 * 3.14; #X obj 30 622 gemwin 10; #X obj 175 408 r \$0-target; #X obj 175 437 list trim; #X msg 89 600 view \$1 \$2 \$3 \$4 \$5 \$6 0 1 0; #X obj 88 575 pack f f f 0 0 0; #X obj 210 496 unpack f f f; #X connect 0 0 4 1; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 2 1 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 3 1 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 5 0 29 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 7 0 11 1; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 9 0 13 0; #X connect 9 1 7 0; #X connect 10 0 8 1; #X connect 10 1 9 0; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 12 0 13 1; #X connect 12 0 51 0; #X connect 13 0 12 1; #X connect 14 0 18 1; #X connect 15 0 18 0; #X connect 16 0 19 0; #X connect 16 1 14 0; #X connect 17 0 15 1; #X connect 17 1 16 0; #X connect 18 0 49 0; #X connect 19 0 49 1; #X connect 20 0 68 0; #X connect 21 0 68 2; #X connect 22 0 21 0; #X connect 22 0 20 0; #X connect 22 0 27 0; #X connect 22 1 21 1; #X connect 22 1 20 1; #X connect 22 1 27 1; #X connect 23 0 28 0; #X connect 24 0 21 0; #X connect 25 0 20 0; #X connect 26 0 27 0; #X connect 27 0 68 1; #X connect 28 0 24 0; #X connect 28 0 25 0; #X connect 28 1 24 1; #X connect 28 1 25 1; #X connect 29 0 23 0; #X connect 29 0 26 0; #X connect 30 0 8 0; #X connect 30 0 7 1; #X connect 30 1 1 0; #X connect 30 1 0 1; #X connect 30 1 14 1; #X connect 30 1 15 0; #X connect 30 2 3 0; #X connect 30 2 10 0; #X connect 30 2 32 0; #X connect 30 3 17 0; #X connect 30 3 31 0; #X connect 31 0 32 0; #X connect 31 1 32 1; #X connect 32 0 33 0; #X connect 32 0 38 0; #X connect 32 0 40 0; #X connect 33 0 37 0; #X connect 34 0 35 0; #X connect 34 0 42 0; #X connect 34 0 43 0; #X connect 34 0 44 0; #X connect 34 0 51 0; #X connect 34 0 49 0; #X connect 35 0 33 0; #X connect 35 0 38 0; #X connect 35 0 40 0; #X connect 37 0 36 0; #X connect 38 0 45 0; #X connect 40 0 46 0; #X connect 42 0 36 2; #X connect 43 0 39 2; #X connect 44 0 41 2; #X connect 45 0 39 0; #X connect 46 0 41 0; #X connect 47 0 25 0; #X connect 48 0 24 0; #X connect 49 0 19 1; #X connect 49 0 50 0; #X connect 50 0 22 0; #X connect 51 0 47 0; #X connect 51 0 48 0; #X connect 52 0 64 0; #X connect 54 0 63 0; #X connect 55 0 57 0; #X connect 56 0 62 0; #X connect 57 0 50 0; #X connect 58 0 51 0; #X connect 59 0 58 0; #X connect 60 0 29 0; #X connect 61 0 60 0; #X connect 62 0 61 0; #X connect 63 0 59 0; #X connect 64
Re: [PD] [Gem] angles - vector translation
i agree! i tried the patch for multiple points of views (camera). it's really neat! but would it be possible to translate (moving) the camera position from point 1 to point 2. maybe with an ease-in / out or elastic effect (using msd or pmpd?!?). pat Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : It would be very nice to have these bundled up into a reusable library. I think the view changing with the mouse should be a standard setup when working with Gem. .hc ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ~ and ~ becommes _~ and __~ in windows...
because windows want allow these characters: \, /, :, *, ?, , , and | in a file name. what solution do you suggest to this problem besides medical surgery of patches and installing Linux which is a whole different issue that I'll come back to in another post. Cheers! Thomas ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ~ and ~ becommes _~ and __~ in windows...
greaterthan, smallerthan. m. Thomas Jeppesen wrote: because windows want allow these characters: \, /, :, *, ?, , , and | in a file name. what solution do you suggest to this problem besides medical surgery of patches and installing Linux which is a whole different issue that I'll come back to in another post. Cheers! Thomas ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ....more a max question....
oggcast~, shoutcast~ for research on max objects you may want to try www.maxobjects.com. marius. marco trevisani wrote: HI, does anybody knows if Max has the equivalent for the ogglive~/mp3live~ set as we have in PD i need to stream either mp3 or ogg over the internet with a max user on the other side...i know i'm a bit of topics. thank you, marco trevisani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://marco.trevisani.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] fn delete
Hi, speaking about annoying things so much leads me to post another problem, that fn + delete, which usually deletes the character right of the cursor on osx, does not work in pd. there appears a funny rectangle character. maybe this one is easier to solve? I also had that problem on some linux machines, btw. whereas on windows it was not possible at all to delete what is right of the cursor, if I remember correctly. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Extract and Record Jazz Bass from Music
Hi Mustafa, On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 06:25 +0200, Mustafa Umut Sarac wrote: Hello , I want to extract and record 1962 Fender Fretless Jazz Bass from Jaco Pastorius records , I learned from mit digital stradivari project that it is possible to transform music to spectrum peaks and play with them like an EQ. Is it the correct way and how can I do it ? AFAICT the 'magic' in the MIT Digital Stradivarius project lies in its use of Cluster-weighted modelling (CWM) to map gesture data to synthesis using sample playback (for attack) and sinusoidal synthesis (for sustain). To my knowledge there is no CWM implementation for PD. However, you might be able to use a neural network to similar effect, and PD does have FANN bindings courtesy of David Morelli. Jamie ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sequencing patch
hi list, i want to share this byproduct of my current project with you: it's a simple sampler/sequencer.. feedback is welcome. http://www.revolwear.com/pd/easy_pack.zip max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ~ and ~ becommes _~ and __~ in windows...
Thomas Jeppesen wrote: because windows want allow these characters: \, /, :, *, ?, , , and | in a file name. the solution is to use the hexloader-patch. (depending on your version of pd). see the archives for more information. fgmasd.r IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI
Hallo! As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed. This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs). Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI
Hey, why not have the Pd website be a project for SOC as well? I'm sure there would be some young designers aching to test their skills and give us a good PR representation. Is that acceptable to the terms of the event? ~Kyle On 2/27/07, Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed. This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs). Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI
Hallo! Hey, why not have the Pd website be a project for SOC as well? I'm sure there would be some young designers aching to test their skills and give us a good PR representation. Is that acceptable to the terms of the event? No, unfortunately no documentation work will be accepted ... (I read it somewhere in the FAQ) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI
i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea. or if someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea. -josh Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed. This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs). Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com the only music blog you need-- playtherecords.com you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI
Yes yes yes And cross-platform too. Or at least a comparable audio units version for Mac users. That would be great! ~Kyle On 2/27/07, Josh Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea. or if someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea. -josh Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed. This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs). Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- tasty electronic music vittles -- bluevitriol.com the only music blog you need-- playtherecords.com you are the dj. interactive music -- improbableorchestra.com random observations of the bizarre -- vitriolix.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ~ and ~ becommes _~ and __~ in windows...
Use the hex code for the ascii value of the non alphanumeric characters: ie. ~ = 0xe30x7e.pd That's how special cahrs are supported. .hc On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Thomas Jeppesen wrote: because windows want allow these characters: \, /, :, *, ?, , , and | in a file name. what solution do you suggest to this problem besides medical surgery of patches and installing Linux which is a whole different issue that I'll come back to in another post. Cheers! Thomas ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] fluxbox/X11 keymappings
IIRC, its handled by this http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net/projects/ pbbuttonsd/ which is also in Debian. .hc On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Kevin McCoy wrote: I think it's more a kernel question - in Ubuntu it's F12 for right-click, not sure about other distros. K On 2/26/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone (with a one-button Mac, perhaps) know how to emulate a right-click or control-click in Fluxbox/X11? Would be handy while patching with my ppc-linux laptop when I forget the USB mouse. thx, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 50: Distort time ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ~ and ~ becommes _~ and __~ in windows...
Side question, where do I find ~ and ~ sources? They are missing from some patches I downloaded and are hard to search for. Writing the name out, such as greaterthan~, seems a bit easier for everything... searching, compiling.. Regards, Rich On 2/27/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Jeppesen wrote: because windows want allow these characters: \, /, :, *, ?, , , and | in a file name. the solution is to use the hexloader-patch. (depending on your version of pd). see the archives for more information. fgmasd.r IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [Gem]: gem-pointer and [list] OR slow [repeat]
hi all it's a known trick to use [repeat] from zexy in a gem render chain to produce funny effects and to multiply the rendering of the attached objects. the problem i have here, is that i use a [repeat] with a very high iteration number (1000). after the [repeat 1000] some stuff is calculated and read from tables and then sent to gem-objects on each iteration. this works well, but on each render-cycle i get a short dropout. i use the default framerate of 20, that should make 50ms per frame, but with [realtime] i measure around 70ms. i could live with that, but i thought that this could be optimized. it's the concept of pd, that when a message is triggered, it gets completely processed in the same dsp-cycle. but when working with gem, this makes absolutely no sense, since the time between each render cycle is much higher (50ms in my case). that's why i wanted to build a slow repeat with [until] and [list], so that i can spread the 1000 iterations over the whole 50ms. unfortunately it is not possible to store a gem pointer with [list]. when i connect a [gemhead] to the right inlet of a [list] and turn rendering on, pd immediately crashes (at least here, i didn't test on other computers). i tried also to bang 'manually' the [gemhead] instead, but then the iterations don't have any effect (no objects are multiplied). is there any way to store a gem pointer? or is there another way of producing slow repeats of a gem pointer? any help appreciated! roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fn delete
Yes, it's always bothered me that the delete key doesn't work on windows... It's minor but disconcerting, and leads to many typos ~David On 2/27/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, speaking about annoying things so much leads me to post another problem, that fn + delete, which usually deletes the character right of the cursor on osx, does not work in pd. there appears a funny rectangle character. maybe this one is easier to solve? I also had that problem on some linux machines, btw. whereas on windows it was not possible at all to delete what is right of the cursor, if I remember correctly. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] KnobsAndSlidersDS
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:25:14AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: It would be nice, if the sliders would somehow work a bit more like Pd's sliders in that they also react to movements that are not directly touching the slider's value indicator. I think, this 1px-line is sometimes hard to hit even in my well-lit desktop environment. I guess it will be even harder to hit the right spot on a dark stage. It actually looks four or five pixels to the left or right of the 1px line, but you're right it's still difficult. I should make it more like Pd and have the option to 'jump' to the value you hit, or have anywhere on the slider itself be sensitive. And then I didn't really figure out how the knobs should be used. I just don't manage to move them any more than a quarter turn. I finished Kirby's Canvas Course with high scores, so I don't believe I'm too clumsy with the Stylus. ;) They work by pressing down and then moving left or right. I guess I should make this more intuitive. Do you have any suggestions? Chris. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fn delete
It used to work on Linux, but then started inserting a non printable (square box) character after about 0.36. I've always considered this temporarily broken and expected it to be fixed very soon. On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:11:21 -0600 David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's always bothered me that the delete key doesn't work on windows... It's minor but disconcerting, and leads to many typos ~David On 2/27/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, speaking about annoying things so much leads me to post another problem, that fn + delete, which usually deletes the character right of the cursor on osx, does not work in pd. there appears a funny rectangle character. maybe this one is easier to solve? I also had that problem on some linux machines, btw. whereas on windows it was not possible at all to delete what is right of the cursor, if I remember correctly. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a good way to remove selected data objects?
On 2/27/07, Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has come across a good way to selectively remove a visualized data structure, hopefully without having to use the mouse. Eg, I'd like to be able to select something based on the position of my tablet pen and then remove it, as well as maybe clearing a corresponding array and whatnot. So far, the only thing I can think of is correlating a deselect message with a backspace [keyup], which would then give me a pointer to the structure removed with backspace. This, however, isn't ideal, because there may be other data structures that need to be removed that are related to the one manually removed. Also, I like avoiding the use of the trackpad... but I don't know what is currently possible in this area. I remember there being talk on the subject, but cannot find the posts. Hi Rich. I don't know if this suits your purposes, but it has worked for me. I have a cursor that scans left to right on the score, and a button I can hit to mark the beginning of the selection zone. I move the cursor some distance to the right and hit another button to mark the end of the selection zone, and then a pointer runs through all the scalars of that type and checks their X value (could easily be X and Y, or some other field). If it matches the selection zone, Pd sends [editmode 1( to the subpatch in question and then a [mouse( message to click on the scalar. I forget the specifics, and where the documentation is, but you can set this up to shift-click, so that it selects every scalar that fits the parameters at once. Then you can hit backspace, or I think you can even have Pd automatically send a key message corresponding to the backspace key to the subpatch, deleting the items in question. The downside to this is if you have multiple overlapping data types; the mouse message selects everything at the given point. The upside is that you can use it to copy-paste or to move scalars as well as deleting them. An obvious alternative that takes a little longer is to have a backup subpatch, and everything written to one goes to the other as well; then the procedure would be clear the main subpatch, copy only the desired items from the backup, then clear the backup and recopy. Perhaps this would be simpler using [qlist] instead of a backup subpatch, I've never tried. This is bordering on cockamamie, but you could multiply every data field of every scalar by its visibility flag, so that when it's set invisible everything comes out as 0, and whenever you have to add a scalar you first scan for any with 0 in that field and recycle them. Might [route 0] or [select 0] the values, too, so that 0's don't even get passed through. I've given this a lot of thought, as I use Pd to create scores, and I have yet to find a great solution. Let me know what you end up doing. -Chuckk -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Feature Requests for Google Summer of Co
Okay, so if I understand this right, there would the be an alternative: Instead of fixing PDP, it would be good to have a [packet_forth] object for PD that is cross-platform and lets you run the Packet Forth scripts, correct? Or is Packet Forth too far away from working??? ~David On 2/27/07, patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys, i am not sure it's a good idea to port pdp to windows... *tom* schouten is not working anymore on pdp. his new project is called packet forth (in collaboration with goto10). tom, please correct me if i am wrong! patrick Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : It's possible and would be an appropriate project, I think. .hc On Feb 20, 2007, at 3:33 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I don't know if this is something worthy for the summer of code... or at all... but I would love PDP to work on Windows ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI
Hallo! i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea. or if someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea. Well, I guess updating PdVST is a little bit too small ... And don't know much if a Pluggo for PD is possible, so I cannot really describe it - and if it is possible I think it should not be only for VST, also LADSPA etc. But you can of course add it to the WIKI, but please make also a more detailed description (click on the ? to generate the new page) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
