Re: [PD] pd-OSC

2007-04-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been searching for the pd-OSC library without success. Can anybody
 tell me where I can find it ?

Alsmost every Pd externals is in the CVS on Sourceforge. The two OSC
collections are here: 
http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/externals/OSCx/
and
http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/externals/mrpeach/osc/

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[PD] anatomy of a wav file header = insert key-bits

2007-04-28 Thread gottlieb
Dear List,

I am trying to create an algorithmic composition whereby pd could 
coalesce related wav files by reading key-byte information I would 
insert into the header.
Does anyone have a good refernce on the anatomy of a wav file, 
especially the header? also can someone advise me how pd can be directed 
to read, let's say the 63 rd and 64th byte of a file?

thank you

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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:

 Both for different reasons Chris, [pool] is an external I've had
 problems compiling and getting to work consistently, and SSSAD
 is overly complex imho.

Hm, really, but what is complex about having to just cross-connect a
slider like this:

 [hsl]X[sssad name]

and have it state-saved?

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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flute synthesis in PD: great!!!

Nicolas cited the work by  
P. de La Quadra about flute sound synthesis: 
is there any sample around? 

Nicolas wrote:

 I can handle the [orc-flute-1] object.
 A month or two for the simple release...

What about the complex one ;-)? Joking, thanks,
for taking care about it...
Definitely I'll be interested 
in testing it, in particular the fully-featured
physical model (the complex one). I've the 
suspect that the complex model can only be handled 
by externals objects coded in C, 
maybe the simple one could be vanilla-pd?
  
As a flute player (at least I was few years ago...) 
I'll be inflexible in judging the results ;-)

---
About flute synthesis I also found this:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/articles/synthsecrets.htm

An interesting emulation (not really convincing) was made by 

http://dmi.smartelectronix.com/flute.html 

in VST for mac and win. Anyway, I never tried P. Cook 
STK objects, how is fidelity to real instrument there?


All the best,

Alberto Zin

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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread robbert van hulzen

this is exciting...!
re midi: for the little synths i've been building (for which, incidentally,
your 'six simple synths' provided very useful info) i made midi switchable.
if i want to i can use midi(notes) to generate pitches but by default it
just takes frequency--to get to those interesting sounds between the boredom
of equaltemperedness ;)

On 4/27/07 11:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 be a great start, something simple akin to MIDI {/ducks}
   
 I agree with the namespace, simple and clear. I also think that midi
 notes combined with a few continuous parameters should be sufficient.
 
 I thought so, too, however instead of midi notes I'm not in favour of
 midi notes anymore and would strongly vote for frequency inputs for
 all instruments. It's more flexible in the long run, and in the short
 run will make alternate tunings easier.
 
 Okay, good point, let's have pd orc instruments be frequency(Hz) driven
 and leave the user to add [mtof] as needed.



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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread Andy Farnell

Okay, I found the last sssad I tried, and it's got a missing
part called _sssad/singleton 

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:27:22 +0200
Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo,
 Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
 
  Both for different reasons Chris, [pool] is an external I've had
  problems compiling and getting to work consistently, and SSSAD
  is overly complex imho.
 
 Hm, really, but what is complex about having to just cross-connect a
 slider like this:
 
  [hsl]X[sssad name]
 
 and have it state-saved?
 
 Ciao
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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:

 Okay, I found the last sssad I tried, and it's got a missing
 part called _sssad/singleton 

It's included in the CVS here: 
http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/abstractions/footils/sssad/

Do you remember where you downloaded the sssad without singleton.pd?

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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread Andy Farnell
Cheers Frank, got singleton, but also needed to get [list_argument],
and [ssad-persistance]. I'm not sure why I had an incomplete copy before, 
but anyway that's why I say complicated. Not complicated to use in theory.





On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:43:10 +0200
Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo,
 Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
 
  Okay, I found the last sssad I tried, and it's got a missing
  part called _sssad/singleton 
 
 It's included in the CVS here: 
 http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/abstractions/footils/sssad/
 
 Do you remember where you downloaded the sssad without singleton.pd?
 
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Re: [PD] bang on ~ 0 crossing?

2007-04-28 Thread Patco
hello,
with externals\ekext\zeroxpos~ and the edge~ object you can get bangs on 
audio zero crossing.
pc

Michal Seta a écrit :
 Hi,

 I don't have access to my pd machine right now but IIRC there is an extern
 called [zerocross~] (or something like that) available somewehere... 
 could be part of nSlam (http://www.tot.sat.qc.ca/logiciels_nslam.html).

 ./MiS

   
 Hi all,

 I need something that can tell me when a phasor~ with a variable playback
 rate hits 0. In other words, I need something that spits out a bang at the
 next control phase if it sees a 0 in the audio data passing through it.

 Any contenders?
 --
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Re: [PD] array data in abstractions

2007-04-28 Thread Peter Worth

On 4/27/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What I would do is to move the array out of the abstraction into the
parent and pass its name as abstraction argument. Example:

This is in abstract.pd:

[tabread $1]

and in parent.pd you pass the array name into $1:

[table t1]
[abstract t1]

[table t2]
[abstract t2]

[table t3]
[abstract t3]

[table t4]
[abstract t4]



i did consider that actually, but then thought that it would make the
abstraction less of a black box because the parent needs to know something
about it's inner workings (that it requires an array).

its good to know that that's the only way though, so that i'm doing it
because i have to, not because there is something about pd i dont know (if
you see what i mean...)

thanks,
pete.
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Re: [PD] anatomy of a wav file header = insert key-bits

2007-04-28 Thread Martin Peach
gottlieb wrote:
 Dear List,

 I am trying to create an algorithmic composition whereby pd could 
 coalesce related wav files by reading key-byte information I would 
 insert into the header.
 Does anyone have a good refernce on the anatomy of a wav file, 
 especially the header? also can someone advise me how pd can be directed 
 to read, let's say the 63 rd and 64th byte of a file?

   

You could do that using my string patch for pd and the str externals, 
not sure otherwise how to handle that.

Martin


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Re: [PD] scripting pd printouts

2007-04-28 Thread simon wise
those are the Mac layout versions - you'll need to move things around  
a bit for Linux, I've got those layouts as well - all the work on  
trying to get the same font/layout working across platforms is VERY  
appreciated - I look forward to the day I don't have to keep 2  
versions of everything that needs a nice GUI!

simon

On 29 Apr 2007, at 12:45 AM, simon wise wrote:


 On 28 Apr 2007, at 1:54 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:

 Thanks very much. A working example would be most welcome as I  
 still can't
 get print message to be recognised.

 here are patch(es) - it's got a lot more than you want, since it is  
 part of my general system for linking patches and machines, but it  
 illustrates the process and I've put in printing to a file as well  
 - you'll need to work out the way to sequence it all in the script,  
 or just build the sequencing part in pd instead. Open tools.pd.


 simon


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[PD] First Italian Pure Data Convention - Rome 28 / 30 April

2007-04-28 Thread xname
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 3 days of workshops and performances @Strike spa


This is the first attempt to start a pure data community in italy...

http://puredata.bugslab.net/


organized by:
  Strike s.p.a./Binario etico / Bugs Lab/ Feramenta 


  http://www.strike-spa.net/
  http://www.binarioetico.org/
  http://www.bugslab.net/
  http://feramenta.noblogs.org/


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Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes

2007-04-28 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Cheers to that! And just in time for Pd-0.39.2-extended.

~Kyle

On 4/28/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I checked in some changes to Memento into CVS:

 * removed all prepend from cyclone and instead use [prepent] which is just
   [list prepend]-[list trim]. prepent is included in Memento now

 * replace OSCprepend with a Miller Vanilla version (included as well,
   taken from [list]-abs)

 * added [list] to commun's outlet to get automatic type conversions.
   commun now will output proper list-messages. This shouldn't but it
   may result in subtle bugs with older patches!

 * some additional features to careGUI, but a careGUI2 is in the
   works.

 Memento now doesn't need any externals besides [pool] and [OSCroute]
 anymore.

 TODO:

 * Luke, I didn't forget about your svxdir changes, they will
   follow soon.

 * Parameter-space feedback as discussed with Ben Bogart isn't
   forgotten, too.

 * But first a cleanup of the ugly patchcord mess is necessary to
   comply with the footils.org readability dogma 2.0


 Ciao
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Re: [PD] bang on ~ 0 crossing?

2007-04-28 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi,

I think the [threshold~] object should do exactly what you ask, would be 
more accurate than the [snapshot~]+[~]+[metro] approach and perhaps even 
cheaper, and it does not require any external either.
But I may be missing something...

bye
m.


 attached post does what you want, to an accuracy of 1 ms.

 but another approach is to do away with the phasor and use fast metro
 attached to vline~..hang on, i'll attach that too.


 Hi,

 I don't have access to my pd machine right now but IIRC there is an 
 extern
 called [zerocross~] (or something like that) available somewehere...
 could be part of nSlam (http://www.tot.sat.qc.ca/logiciels_nslam.html).


 Hi all,

 I need something that can tell me when a phasor~ with a variable 
 playback
 rate hits 0. In other words, I need something that spits out a bang at 
 the
 next control phase if it sees a 0 in the audio data passing through it.

 
 
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[PD] [PD-announce] [piksel] First Italian Pure Data Convention - Rome 28 / 30 April (fwd)

2007-04-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

I have nothing to do with Italy, it's just that they have not posted the 
following announcement on pd-announce yet, and it starts tomorrow!

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This is the first attempt to start a pure data community in italy...

http://puredata.bugslab.net/


organized by:
   Strike s.p.a./Binario etico / Bugs Lab/ Feramenta


   http://www.strike-spa.net/
   http://www.binarioetico.org/
   http://www.bugslab.net/
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Re: [PD] array data in abstractions

2007-04-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Peter Worth hat gesagt: // Peter Worth wrote:

 i did consider that actually, but then thought that it would make
 the abstraction less of a black box because the parent needs to
 know something about it's inner workings (that it requires an
 array).

If you want to save something (the array) with the parent patch, then
that something has to be in the parent, not in the abstraction itself,
because if you save the abstraction, you can only save one array with
the abstraction. 

However if you don't need to save the abstraction and still want to
have different arrays inside, you leave the array in the abstraction,
but call it something with $0 like [table $0-inside] and set the
values on demand from the parent.

Attached is an example on what I mean.

A third possibility would be to use some kind of state-saving system,
though I wouldn't save larger tables with that. Larger tables are
better served with their own files, possibly in wav-format.

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Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

 IIRC, SSAD has a major dependancy with Frank's list-abs. If you have
 those, it should work, right Frank?

No, SSSAD is completely standalone and doesn't require anything but
pd-0.39 or up. One of the S in its name stands for simplistic so
simplicity was one of my goals.

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Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X

2007-04-28 Thread bigswift
that has to do with libquicktime, use the one that is included with Sevvys 
stuff. the fink one is the problem.

the only codec that works is Motion Jpeg

pp



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I am getting the unsupported codec errors too with every codec I've tried.  
 Is Fink a requrement for 
 running pdp_qt?  Maybe I should install Fink and try again tonight.
 
 Alain
 
  
  From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/04/26 Thu PM 09:43:26 EDT
  To: Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: Tim Boykett [EMAIL PROTECTED],  pd-list@iem.at
  Subject: Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
  
  hi,
  I tried pdp_qt, but had no luck yet. on pd-40.2 no libraries were 
  loaded, have to test why, and on 0.39.2-rc2 I get this error messages 
  with all my files
  
  pdp_qt: opening /Users/marius/Desktop/test1.mov
  pdp_qt: video stream found (720x480 pixels, 30 fps, 567 frames, jpeg codec)
  pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported video codec
  pdp_qt: ERROR: no usable video stream found.
  
  I will see if I find a working codec. but even foto jpeg did not work.
  
  pidip also does not seem to start correctly...
  
  /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pidip.pd_darwin:
   
  dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/
 pidip.pd_darwin, 
  10): Symbol not found: _theora_decode_YUVout
 Referenced from: 
  /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pidip.pd_darwin
 Expected in: dynamic lookup
  
  marius.
  
  
  Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
   Ok, pdp and pidip should now include quicktime support, if anyone  
   wants to test:
   
   http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-04-26/
   
   libavcodec hasn't been working, so it might not be able to do much yet.
   
   .hc
 
 
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Re: [PD] Writing OSC applications in XUL

2007-04-28 Thread carmen
On Sat Apr 28, 2007 at 02:37:27PM -0400, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've created an XPCOM component that wraps LibLo, allowing you to
 communicate via OSC with JavaScript.
 
 It's sort of raw right now, and hasn't yet been ported to Windows or
 OS X, but doing so shouldn't be too hard.  I really don't have time to
 work on it right now, so I thought I may as well upload it and make it
 available to other people who might be interested instead of allowing
 it to accumulate mold in my subversion repository.
 
 http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~sinclair/content/blog:communication_between_xul_and_osc
 
 Anyways, this should allow people to use their SVG/HTML web-design-fu
 to create nice interfaces to audio applications, PureData patches,
 among other things.
 
 If anyone's interested in improving it, please feel free to send me
 patches or even to fork it.

is there a serialization for PD messages inside OSC? for example so one could 
load a webpage containing some XUL data hosted on padawan's site...it could 
check for a local PD instance, and shuttle the patch data over and open it..

 
 
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Re: [PD] Writing OSC applications in XUL

2007-04-28 Thread Stephen Sinclair
Hi,

 is there a serialization for PD messages inside OSC? for example
 so one could load a webpage containing some XUL data hosted
 on padawan's site...it could check for a local PD instance, and
 shuttle the patch data over and open it..

If I understand you correctly, yes this is something I had in mind.
Perhaps it could be used in a firefox extension instead of in a
XULrunner app, so that you could browse to a server that hosts your
audio interfaces.  That would make setting up a networked audio system
very nice and easy.

I'm not sure how it would work exactly in terms of the Mozilla
security architecture, however, since as I understand it, remotely
loaded pages can't access XPCOM components.  I'm really not an expert
with Mozilla, so if anyone has ideas on how to accomplish something
like that I'd all ears.

Originally I wanted to do this is 100% javascript instead of having to
create an XPCOM component, but it seems there is no way to have JS
send UDP messages from a XUL app.  As far I can tell anyways.


Steve

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[PD] turning off audio in abstraction objects

2007-04-28 Thread c . m . bryan
Hello all,

I seem to remember a way to turn off audio in specific objects within
a patch, by now I can't find it.  I have multiple instances of a
particularly intensive abstraction, it would be helpful to conserve
resources for the ones that aren't currently being heard.

Any hints?

Thanks,

Chris Bryan

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Re: [PD] turning off audio in abstraction objects

2007-04-28 Thread Andy Farnell

[switch~] goes inside the sub-patch/abstraction you want to control and you
send it a 1 or 0 to start/stop computation.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:52:23 +0100
c.m.bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I seem to remember a way to turn off audio in specific objects within
 a patch, by now I can't find it.  I have multiple instances of a
 particularly intensive abstraction, it would be helpful to conserve
 resources for the ones that aren't currently being heard.
 
 Any hints?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [PD] Writing OSC applications in XUL

2007-04-28 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi !
Very nice tool Stephen. It work on Ubuntu Dapper too. Very interesting
for controlling/monitoring server-side pd too. I should update my
AJAX/PHP tool too.
http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=422 is not much
used.

I might provide some beautiful XUL examples to help to spread it if I
have time... A firefox extension is obivously a must. Is the pd patch
extension for firefox abandonned ?

a

2007/4/28, Stephen Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

  is there a serialization for PD messages inside OSC? for example
  so one could load a webpage containing some XUL data hosted
  on padawan's site...it could check for a local PD instance, and
  shuttle the patch data over and open it..

 If I understand you correctly, yes this is something I had in mind.
 Perhaps it could be used in a firefox extension instead of in a
 XULrunner app, so that you could browse to a server that hosts your
 audio interfaces.  That would make setting up a networked audio system
 very nice and easy.

 I'm not sure how it would work exactly in terms of the Mozilla
 security architecture, however, since as I understand it, remotely
 loaded pages can't access XPCOM components.  I'm really not an expert
 with Mozilla, so if anyone has ideas on how to accomplish something
 like that I'd all ears.

 Originally I wanted to do this is 100% javascript instead of having to
 create an XPCOM component, but it seems there is no way to have JS
 send UDP messages from a XUL app.  As far I can tell anyways.


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Re: [PD] Writing OSC applications in XUL

2007-04-28 Thread Stephen Sinclair
 Very nice tool Stephen. It work on Ubuntu Dapper too. Very interesting
 for controlling/monitoring server-side pd too. I should update my

Cool, I'm glad you got it working!
Always good to know something compiles and runs on someone else's machine.. ;-)


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Re: [PD] turning off audio in abstraction objects

2007-04-28 Thread patrick
hi,

use [switch~]

but if you don't want to hear a click when doing so, use :
mix/switchnice~ from :
http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions

ciao,
pat

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Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X

2007-04-28 Thread bigswift
pdp_ieee1394 does not build after 0.13

pp


 Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Ok, pdp and pidip should now include quicktime support, if anyone  
 wants to test:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-04-26/
 
 libavcodec hasn't been working, so it might not be able to do much yet.
 
 .hc
 
 On Apr 23, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Tim Boykett wrote:
 
 
  The QaD method (creating pdp and pidip objects) works fine.
  Now I can get pdp_glx running a window in Xwindows and pdp_noise
  works too. pdp_qt is not being created. pdp_ieee1394 is also
  not created.
 
  Do I need any specific things for quicktime?
 
  I was also looking for the gem -- pdp conversion things
  and could not find anything.
 
  tim
 
 
 
  On 23/04/2007, at 6:45 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
  That error message actually is a mistake and you can ignore it.
  It'll be removed in the next release.
 
  It sounds like pdp and pidip are not loaded.  Did you see their
  version messages in the Pd window?  You can do the quick and dirty
  way of loading them: just create an object called pdp and then
  pidip.  It'll load the library, then fail to create the object.
  But then the libs will be loaded.
 
  .hc
 
  On Apr 20, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Joseph Gray wrote:
 
  I'm receiving the same error as well.  Running on a G5 with OS X
  10.3.9
 
  Missing Libraries? need X11?
 
  Or do I simply stick with Quartz Composer?
 
 
 
  The writer Tim Boykett writ:
  •
  • Hi,
  •
  • Trying to get it up, using 39.2-rc1, nothing from pdp is working
  at all.
  • So the rest of you are having at least more luck than me
  •
  • I am also getting the message
  •
  • error: to function, this needs to be compiled against Pd 0.40 or
  higher,
  •
  • or a version that has sys_register_loader()
  • libdir loader $Revision: 1.5 $
  • written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  • compiled on Apr 14 2007 at 05:11:51
  • compiled against Pd version 0.39.2.extended-RC1
  •
  • at the very start; i.e. this is the first thing in the PD window.
  •
  • Question: What things might I need from Fink that I might not have
  • right now? Are there any things I should _not_ have?
  •
  • Okay; I would really like to see this working, so I do not have to
  • learn about Jitter :-
  •
  •Cheers,
  •
  • Tim
  •
  •
  •
  • On 20/04/2007, at 7:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:
  •
  • same here. hmm, at least, when X11 is running, then it is
  possible to
  • use pdp_glx for output. and for input I used pdp_noise just to  
  see
  • what
  • is happening, and that combination gices me an output window  
  and a
  • working patch (both in test6 and rc2).
  • I think for input I want to use pdp_qt? or what is another
  object for
  • live input?
  • marius.
  •
  •
  • Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  •
  • pdp_v4l won't work on Mac OS X, since v4l = video4linux.  As for
  • what to
  • do about getting pdp_xv to work, I have no idea.  I tried a
  bit, and
  • only succeeded in getting Pd to crash.  [pdp_sdl] is built in
  • there, but
  • doesn't seem to do anything but crash.  Here are the messages I
  • found:
  •
  •
  • .hc
  •
  • On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:08 AM, marius schebella wrote:
  •
  • yes, that is true, but pdp_xv is not working. so I cannot  
  really
  • say,
  • if the rest is.
  • what is the output window called on osx?
  • marius.
  •
  • Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
  • My first test, opening pdp example 1 in pd-0.39.2-extended- 
  rc1,
  • loads
  • every object but pdp_v41.
  • ~Kyle
  • On 4/19/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  wrote:
  • hi hans,
  • where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds?
  • btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that.
  • but pdp did not work for me.
  • the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I
  • don't see
  • how to create?
  • marius.
  •
  • Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  • I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X
  in the
  • upcoming release.  I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to
  • test it.
  • So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken.
  •
  • http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
  •
  • PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give
  Mac OS X
  • users a new output option.
  •
  • .hc
  •
  •
  •
  •
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Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X

2007-04-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I have updated the Fink package for libquicktime, so I'd like to know  
if this all works.  Then it will be much easier to get pdp and pidip  
working on Mac OS X.

.hc

On Apr 28, 2007, at 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 that has to do with libquicktime, use the one that is included with  
 Sevvys stuff. the fink one is the problem.

 the only codec that works is Motion Jpeg

 pp



  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am getting the unsupported codec errors too with every codec  
 I've tried.  Is Fink a requrement for
 running pdp_qt?  Maybe I should install Fink and try again tonight.

 Alain


 From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/04/26 Thu PM 09:43:26 EDT
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: Tim Boykett [EMAIL PROTECTED],  pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X

 hi,
 I tried pdp_qt, but had no luck yet. on pd-40.2 no libraries were
 loaded, have to test why, and on 0.39.2-rc2 I get this error  
 messages
 with all my files

 pdp_qt: opening /Users/marius/Desktop/test1.mov
 pdp_qt: video stream found (720x480 pixels, 30 fps, 567 frames,  
 jpeg codec)
 pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported video codec
 pdp_qt: ERROR: no usable video stream found.

 I will see if I find a working codec. but even foto jpeg did not  
 work.

 pidip also does not seem to start correctly...

 /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/ 
 Scripts/../extra/pidip.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/ 
 Resources/Scripts/../extra/
 pidip.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: _theora_decode_YUVout
Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/ 
 Scripts/../extra/pidip.pd_darwin
Expected in: dynamic lookup

 marius.


 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 Ok, pdp and pidip should now include quicktime support, if anyone
 wants to test:

 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-04-26/

 libavcodec hasn't been working, so it might not be able to do  
 much yet.

 .hc


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Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes

2007-04-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Just a reminder, in order for these changes to be included in  
Pd-0.39.2-extended, they'll have to be checked into the branch- 
v0-39-2-extended branch.

At this point, only bug fixes should be checked into that branch,  
since we are about to release it.  New features, especially ones that  
might break backwards compatibility should not be included in this  
release.

.hc

On Apr 28, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

 Cheers to that! And just in time for Pd-0.39.2-extended.

 ~Kyle

 On 4/28/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I checked in some changes to Memento into CVS:

 * removed all prepend from cyclone and instead use [prepent] which  
 is just
   [list prepend]-[list trim]. prepent is included in Memento now

 * replace OSCprepend with a Miller Vanilla version (included as well,
   taken from [list]-abs)

 * added [list] to commun's outlet to get automatic type conversions.
   commun now will output proper list-messages. This shouldn't but it
   may result in subtle bugs with older patches!

 * some additional features to careGUI, but a careGUI2 is in the
   works.

 Memento now doesn't need any externals besides [pool] and [OSCroute]
 anymore.

 TODO:

 * Luke, I didn't forget about your svxdir changes, they will
   follow soon.

 * Parameter-space feedback as discussed with Ben Bogart isn't
   forgotten, too.

 * But first a cleanup of the ugly patchcord mess is necessary to
   comply with the footils.org readability dogma 2.0


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Re: [PD] memory leak in pd gui?

2007-04-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Do you have an example patch that causes this?  Which CPU type?  pd- 
vanilla or pd-extended?

.hc

On Apr 28, 2007, at 3:53 PM, John Harrison wrote:

 I am running Pd 0.39-2 on ubuntu Dapper. It seems as though if I leave
 Pd running for more than several days, the entire computer freezes or
 becomes sluggish to the point of being unusable. I can hear the disk
 thrashing like crazy.

 By setting up a cron job writing ps -auxw to a new time-stamped  
 file in
 a directory every 5 minutes, I can clearly see by looking at these  
 files
 that the problem is that Pd slowly but surely eats all the memory
 resources of the machine. If I run the same patch with the nogui  
 option,
 the problem disappears. The thing is, I need to run this patch
 indefinitely *and* I need the gui.

 Am I seeing a memory leak in the gui and is this a known problem?

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Re: [PD] New module for SSSAD: PRESET saving!

2007-04-28 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Tom,

On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:16:56PM -0400, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
 I was playing around with sssad and I found it so cute (so much more
 than other state saving schemes) that I made a preset saving module
 for it.
 
 To test, get sssad included in the s-abstractions
 (http://mccormick.cx/projects/s-abstractions/)
 Install it all
 Put presetstore.pdpresetstore-help.pd  in the sssad folder

That's really cool! I will check this into my own repository.

The authoritative repository for SSSAD which Frank uploads to is here:
http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/abstractions/footils/sssad/

Best,

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[PD] Gem Compiling

2007-04-28 Thread Nose Hair
I've been trying unsuccessfully to compile gem with font support for  
PPC running os 10.4.9.  I have got as far as compiling freetype2,  
cppunit and FTGL but when I go to run the Xcode project to compile  
gem_darwin, I get a bunch of errors like Base/configDarwin.h no such  
file or directory when I see the file in the directory, among many  
other errors.  I also tried to compile using ./configure and make but  
I get

glsl_program.cpp: In member function `virtual void  
glsl_program::LinkProgram()':
glsl_program.cpp:411: error: 'kCGLCPGPUVertexProcessing' was not  
declared in this scope
glsl_program.cpp:412: error: 'kCGLCPGPUFragmentProcessing' was not  
declared in this scope
make[1]: *** [glsl_program.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make: *** [Manips] Error 2

I have the most recent cvs stuff so I dont know what to do.  I was  
able to compile the gemlibs just fine but I guess the full echilada  
takes a little more knowhow.  Any help would be awesome.

Thanks,
Alain

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