Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian

2007-08-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 But I am having no luck with pix_video or pdp_v4l. The main problem
 seems to be that (apparently) recently the naming conventions
 in debian and possibly linux in general were changed. So there is
 no more /dev/video0 for the v4l mode, and for pix_video trying to
 work directly with ieee1394, I get complaints that /dev/ieee1394/dv/ 
 host/PAL/in
 Is a directory.

Yes we had this discussion quite some time ago: I think you can open the 
device with sending the message [driver /dev/ieee1394/dv/host/PAL/in( 
(fill in your device) to [pix_video]. If not let me know, then the fix 
was not added ...

LG
Georg

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Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian

2007-08-15 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le mardi 14 août 2007 à 22:19 +0200, Tim Boykett a écrit :

 Hi Kids!
 
Time for a new adventure. I would like to have a working
 firewire camera input for manipulation in Gem on a linux
 box that is sitting here purring at me. The cam works
 fine with Kino and dvgrab, so the linux-firewire connection
 is all well.
 
 But I am having no luck with pix_video or pdp_v4l. The main problem
 seems to be that (apparently) recently the naming conventions
 in debian and possibly linux in general were changed. So there is
 no more /dev/video0 for the v4l mode, and for pix_video trying to
 work directly with ieee1394, I get complaints that /dev/ieee1394/dv/ 
 host/PAL/in
 Is a directory.
 
 Has anyone had more luck? Do I need to going from stable to testing in
 some parts of debian? Do I need to use some special somethings?

Hi
apparently this is a problem related to the new behavior of udev under
Debian. I wouldn't recommand to downgrad udev though. I read the
following on videolan's website: 

 if you have a distribution that uses udev, then you must add/change the
following line to the file 50-udev.rules in your /etc/udev/rules.d
directory. 

%vi /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules 
# IEEE1394 (firewire) devices (must be before raw devices below) 
KERNEL==raw1394, NAME=%k KERNEL==dv1394, NAME=dv1394/%k
KERNEL==video1394*, NAME=video1394/%n 

I havent tested it yet, since i havent any DV cam before hand at the
moment.

The workaround i used at the time is the following:

first check that you belong to the right groups : disk and video by
issuing the command groups 

If not, then 

$ sudo adduser username disk
$ sudo adduser username video


then run the attached bash script as a superuser after each restart:

$ sudo bash ./dv.sh

you might have to chmod +x the shell script 

Start Pd/Gem, pix_video should work as expected if feeded with the
pathname given in the shell script 
(I cant remember well this part, i'm sorry i'm only sending a
translation of my blog notes, i dont have access to the original machine
and Pd program this week (public holiday).) 

The shell was adapted from an article about Ubuntu Edgy and DV cams  

http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/11/08/ubuntu-edgy-and-dv-cameras/

O.
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Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian

2007-08-15 Thread Joseph Barrows
Hi,
I'm having the same problem under fedore core 6 - there is no /dev/video

any advice?  (there is no /dev/ieee1394 either

(kino see the camera fine)

thanks,
Joseph

On 15/08/07, Tim Boykett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Kids!

Time for a new adventure. I would like to have a working
 firewire camera input for manipulation in Gem on a linux
 box that is sitting here purring at me. The cam works
 fine with Kino and dvgrab, so the linux-firewire connection
 is all well.

 But I am having no luck with pix_video or pdp_v4l. The main problem
 seems to be that (apparently) recently the naming conventions
 in debian and possibly linux in general were changed. So there is
 no more /dev/video0 for the v4l mode, and for pix_video trying to
 work directly with ieee1394, I get complaints that /dev/ieee1394/dv/
 host/PAL/in
 Is a directory.

 Has anyone had more luck? Do I need to going from stable to testing in
 some parts of debian? Do I need to use some special somethings?

 Looking forward to the d'Oh moment,

Tim


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] macros.

2007-08-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 00:37 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
 anything special in mind, when you put this up on your website? Am I
 missing something?
 marius.

 sorry, in case this isn't related to your question, but the movie  
 shows
 how to record a keyboard macro, that is played back afterwards  
 ( though
 in the showed example, the same could be reached with typing 'ctrl- 
 d').
 anyway, i think, matju wanted to announce this new feature of
 desiredata.


This is possible to do with Pd already, no Tcl needed :D

http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/doc/tutorials/intro/ 
46.pure_data_files.pd

.hc



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] macros.

2007-08-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Aug 15, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 This is possible to do with Pd already, no Tcl needed :D
 http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/doc/tutorials/intro/
 46.pure_data_files.pd

 This is nice, but you're missing the point. We have macros so that  
 we can reproduce keyboard and mouse sequences. This can be useful  
 for some things for which we can't just use Ctrl+d and especially  
 to create automated tests for user interface.

You can do that in Pd also, keyboard and mouse sequences all generate  
Pd messages which you can capture using [tot].  You could send it to  
a pd process to reproduce.  If my website was working you could see  
more on that here:

http://at.or.at/serendipd

 Chun also added a [clipboard] class so that you can pick up the  
 results of Ctrl+c without saving to disk nor using [textfile]. This  
 is also because of automated tests for user interface.

[clipboard] sounds nice.

.hc


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] macros.

2007-08-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

You can do that in Pd also, keyboard and mouse sequences all generate Pd 
messages which you can capture using [tot].


What kind of thing are you doing with your macro feature?

You could send it to a pd process to reproduce.  If my website was 
working


Why isn't your website working?

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[PD] pd and 64bit Linux again

2007-08-15 Thread Malte Steiner
Hello,

I tested pd 0.40-2 (its also in Debian Lenny) on 64 Studio and still got 
the table writing bug, where all tables are modulated with a square 
wave. Isnt it supposed to be absent from 0.40 onwards?

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] pd and 64bit Linux again

2007-08-15 Thread Miller Puckette
I think most of the 64-bit bugs only got cleaned up for 0.41 (and the test
version in CVS is pretty stable at the moment)

cheers
M

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 02:37:34AM +0200, Malte Steiner wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I tested pd 0.40-2 (its also in Debian Lenny) on 64 Studio and still got 
 the table writing bug, where all tables are modulated with a square 
 wave. Isnt it supposed to be absent from 0.40 onwards?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [PD] pd and 64bit Linux again

2007-08-15 Thread Malte Steiner
Miller Puckette wrote:
 I think most of the 64-bit bugs only got cleaned up for 0.41 (and the test
 version in CVS is pretty stable at the moment)
 
ok, I give it a try tomorrow and post back here.
Thanks for the info,

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Re: [PD] Gem and ieee1394 firewire cam on linux debian

2007-08-15 Thread Tim Boykett

Hi Georg,

  Thanks for your reply. When you say quite some time ago when was
that approximately? I see that in Dec 06 Ico Bukvic was having
the same problem, but the thread stops on the PD list.

Anyway, I tried your suggestion.

When I try this I get Bad argument for message 'driver' to object  
'pix_videoNEW'

Seeing as when I send |driver 1( to pix_video I receive the error
message that refers to /dev/ieee1394/dv/host0/PAL/in, or host1 if I
have send |device 1( message, then I would guess that the external
is trying to do the right thing.

I must mention that /dev/ieee1394 does not even exist in my hierarchy.
Perhaps something has not been created for this.

However, Kino and dvgrab work out of the box so the basics are all
working fine. Only PD is trying to do the wrong thing.

Hmmm, any further ideas?

Cheers,

tim



On 15/08/2007, at 8:07 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote:

 Hallo!

 But I am having no luck with pix_video or pdp_v4l. The main problem
 seems to be that (apparently) recently the naming conventions
 in debian and possibly linux in general were changed. So there is
 no more /dev/video0 for the v4l mode, and for pix_video trying to
 work directly with ieee1394, I get complaints that /dev/ieee1394/ 
 dv/ host/PAL/in
 Is a directory.

 Yes we had this discussion quite some time ago: I think you can  
 open the device with sending the message [driver /dev/ieee1394/dv/ 
 host/PAL/in( (fill in your device) to [pix_video]. If not let me  
 know, then the fix was not added ...

 LG
 Georg



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