Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

[Roman Haefeli]

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 13:33 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>  [closemsg] gets 
> triggered too late for that. On top of this, it gets triggered in the 
> middle of deleting a patch, which means you can't rely on the patch being 
> complete and you can't rely on the patch being empty either.

when does it exactly trigger? is it true, that it depends on creation
time? i made some tests with the help-patch: if [closemsg xx] is created
_before_ [r xx]-[print], then the message gets printed, when closing the
patch. on the other hand, if  [closemsg xx] is created _after_ [r
xx]-[print], no message gets printed, when closing the patch. 
i'd say, the most desirable behaviour would be, that it 'bang's before
anything is destroyed. this behaviour would ensure, that everything
within the patch itself, that is triggered by [closemsg], would be
executed. as it is now, it is not clearly defined, whether messages get
executed or not. 

roman




___ 
Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: 
http://mail.yahoo.de


___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] possible [pack] bug

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Hey,

I found something in [pack]'s handling of symbols that seems like a  
bug to me.  If [pack symbol ...] receives a message with just a  
selector, then it treats it as if it was a symbol.  I.e.  this packs  
a symbol:


[test(  <--this works
|
| [test(   <-- this throws an error
| |
[pack symbol symbol]



pack_mixed_up_symbols.pd
Description: Binary data


Whad'yall think?

.hc


 



I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and  
during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man  
for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers.  - General  
Smedley Butler



___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] A basic question re: messages and sequencing

[ild0012]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 11:28:56AM -0400, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Not sure about the removal of duplicates, but for your second question
> take a look at the list-enumerate abstraction.
> 
> (Located in abstractions/footils/list-abs)
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 8/30/07, Mat Wall-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi..
> >
> >
> > I've been working in PD on a project and I have two message boxes with a
> > list of numbers. I want to divulge the common numbers into a message or
> > sequence. How best to do that? My second question is how best to write a
> > sequence with those numbers to a file with time information coming from
> > another list (message) again?
> >
check xeq external for timed qlist ..
that is quite complex, but that's what it was made for

to remove repeated numbers use [change] , which is a pd core object.
> > thats probably clear as mud - if anyone has time to help I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Mat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > PD-list@iem.at mailing list
> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
> >
> >
> 
> ___
> PD-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[Roman Haefeli]

On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 02:17 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 22:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I finally posted my handful of pictures/movies:
> > 
> > 
> > hala,
> > 
> > movies : .qtl?,
> 
> do you mean 'Quantitative trait locus' ?

ah, sorry, .qtl is the file extension... never heard of it, but as i
said, mplayer plays it ( -> thus ,linux' plays it)

do rather blame the cellular phones manufacturers, which use this kind
of formats, not the users of such cellphones.

roman



___ 
Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de


___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[Roman Haefeli]

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 22:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I finally posted my handful of pictures/movies:
> 
> 
> hala,
> 
> movies : .qtl?,

do you mean 'Quantitative trait locus' ?


my browser plays it perfectly (firefox with mplayer-plugin on ubuntu
dapper i386)

roman




___ 
Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: 
http://mail.yahoo.de


___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

[Alexandre Castonguay]

Hello,

Andrew Brouse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was in charge of the papers so I'll
let him answer your questions.

We'll try to put the audio + video documentation up soon as well.

Cheers,

Alexandre


> On 23/08/2007, at 15.13, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:
>
>> The papers for the convention are online at :
>> http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/
>
> Thanks! It's nice to be able to read them, even though one weren't
> there. Two questions though:
>
> Are there for each  - or any - i of the numbers
> 1,2,3,14,15,16,17,21,22,23,24,25,26,31,34,35,36,37,38,41 a paper
> named i-.pdf ?
>
>
>
> ___
> PD-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>



___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[mik]

Stephen Sinclair schreef:
>> Actually it's readable everywhere, as it's just an xml-file that acts
>> like a kind of pointer to the *.mp4 file. I replaced .qtl in the URL
>> with .mp4 and downloaded and viewed that file instead.
> 
> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy, it came up in the browser but didn't play, but
> I right-clicked and chose "Open in Movie Player" and then Totem popped
> up and it played just fine.
> 
> 
> Steve


it just worked for me with the mplayer plug-in.


m

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[Stephen Sinclair]

> Actually it's readable everywhere, as it's just an xml-file that acts
> like a kind of pointer to the *.mp4 file. I replaced .qtl in the URL
> with .mp4 and downloaded and viewed that file instead.

I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy, it came up in the browser but didn't play, but
I right-clicked and chose "Open in Movie Player" and then Totem popped
up and it played just fine.


Steve

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] derivative?

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
Oded Ben-Tal hat gesagt: // Oded Ben-Tal wrote:

> Does anyone know of a patch/object that calculates the derivative of an 
> incoming sequence of messages (not signal)?

A very simple way is a cross-connected trigger with substraction: 

 [t f f]
   \/
   /\
  [- ]

to take the difference between successive values as derivatives.

> I am trying to figure out a way of calculating the derivative (by DPCM) 
> but all I can come up with are very cumbersome and ugly (keeping the last 
> 4 values and then switching their positions ready for the next iteration 
> works in c, but seems awkward in pd) I presume there is a simple elegant 
> way of doing it but I just can't see it.

Maybe some objects of the [list]-abs collection can make what you want
easier to patch, especially [list-lastx], [list-map] and
[list-reduce]. I would try to help more if you could explain the
algorithm you want to use with a bit more depth.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > movies : .qtl?, .wtf?
> > sorry, it's unreadable on a regular linux browser.
> 
> sorry, it's unreadable not only on linux...

Actually it's readable everywhere, as it's just an xml-file that acts
like a kind of pointer to the *.mp4 file. I replaced .qtl in the URL
with .mp4 and downloaded and viewed that file instead.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Do [singleton]s get loadbangs?

[Phil Stone]

Thanks, Frank.  That worked beautifully.  I'm about to release something 
that needs this, so I guess I'll rename your new version and bundle it 
in with the release, until (or if) you make this part of default [sssad].


Phil


Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm trying to figure out how to use [singleton] from [sssad] so that I 
>> can instantiate some lookup tables once and only once for use in 
>> multiple patches.
>>
>> The [singleton] help patch is a bit cryptic, but I've so far guessed 
>> that I can wrap the table-creating object like so: 
>>
>> [singleton WTAB waveTables]
>> 
>
> That's correct. Sorry about the cryptic help file, I'll make a better
> one.
>
>   
>> It appears that the tables are correctly allocated by this, but they are 
>> not initialized; i.e. the arrays are created, but the code that fills 
>> them in is not triggered, even though there is a [loadbang] in 
>> [waveTables] that's supposed to trigger it.
>>
>> So my question is first, am I even close to using [singleton] 
>> correctly?  and secondly, do objects created by [singleton] get a loadbang?
>> 
>
> They don't get a loadbang, because they are dynamically created.
> Dynamically created abstractions don't execute their loadbangs! 
>
> It's possible to trigger the loadbang manually with a message to the
> subpatch, the objects are created in. For singleton.pd this subpatch's
> receiver is is pd-$0-container. Attached is a version of singleton
> which automatically sends a loadbang message to it. After I get over
> my jetlag, I'll consider making this the default in sssad's version of
> singleton.pd as well. Also it may be useful to send the value of $0 to
> an outlet, maybe the first one, but that may break patches which rely
> on only a 0 or a 1 coming out there, so I guess I'll have to introduce
> a second outlet.
>
> Ciao
>   
> 
>
> ___
> PD-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>   


___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[marius schebella]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> movies : .qtl?, .wtf?
> sorry, it's unreadable on a regular linux browser.

sorry, it's unreadable not only on linux...

marius.

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] some images...

[ydegoyon]

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> Hey all,
>
> I finally posted my handful of pictures/movies:


hala,

movies : .qtl?, .wtf?
sorry, it's unreadable on a regular linux browser.
why don't everyone publish in .ogg format?
( ffmpeg2theora can help you ).

salut!
sevy

>
> http://pics.at.or.at/pics/2007-08-24_pd_convention/
>
> http://pics.at.or.at/pics/2007-08-25_pd_convention/
>
> And my website is even working!
>
> .hc





___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

[ydegoyon]

ola,

mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files
over a lan, not the internet.

for sending a mp3 stream through the internet,
use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ),
connected to an icecast server..

ah, of course you need an icecast server...

and why don't you try sahabuntu?
it has all tools to stream directly,
sound or video ( ogg/theora format )..

http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso

'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement,
only a PITA.

from montreal,
back from camping,
sa'ha!
sevy


mami music wrote:

> Hi i´m getting this error
> stream connected.
> connection lost (too little input)
> stream connected.
> connection lost (too little input)
> stream connected.
> connection lost (too little input)
> stream connected.
> connection lost (too little input)
>
>  on the pd window of the remote computer  when sending a stream over the
internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound but in
an intermitent way, with silences.
>
> Is it problem of the network?
> any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream?
> maby using other objects?
>
> ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?
>
> thanks
>
> daniel
>
>
>___
>PD-list@iem.at mailing list
>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
>



___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] derivative?

[ugur guney]

# What is DPCM, and how is derivative defined in it? Are the messages coming
with constant time intervals?
# I was thought that the simplest model of the derivative in discrete
signals is calculated by taking the differences between successive samples
and dividing the difference to the time interval between them.
# Where do you keep the last 4 values? Maybe using a table is easier.
-ugur-

On 9/3/07, Oded Ben-Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a patch/object that calculates the derivative of an
> incoming sequence of messages (not signal)?
> I am trying to figure out a way of calculating the derivative (by DPCM)
> but all I can come up with are very cumbersome and ugly (keeping the last
> 4 values and then switching their positions ready for the next iteration
> works in c, but seems awkward in pd) I presume there is a simple elegant
> way of doing it but I just can't see it.
>
> Thanks
> Oded
>
> --
> ___
> Oded Ben-Tal
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ___
> PD-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Do [singleton]s get loadbangs?

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote:

> I'm trying to figure out how to use [singleton] from [sssad] so that I 
> can instantiate some lookup tables once and only once for use in 
> multiple patches.
> 
> The [singleton] help patch is a bit cryptic, but I've so far guessed 
> that I can wrap the table-creating object like so: 
> 
> [singleton WTAB waveTables]

That's correct. Sorry about the cryptic help file, I'll make a better
one.

> It appears that the tables are correctly allocated by this, but they are 
> not initialized; i.e. the arrays are created, but the code that fills 
> them in is not triggered, even though there is a [loadbang] in 
> [waveTables] that's supposed to trigger it.
> 
> So my question is first, am I even close to using [singleton] 
> correctly?  and secondly, do objects created by [singleton] get a loadbang?

They don't get a loadbang, because they are dynamically created.
Dynamically created abstractions don't execute their loadbangs! 

It's possible to trigger the loadbang manually with a message to the
subpatch, the objects are created in. For singleton.pd this subpatch's
receiver is is pd-$0-container. Attached is a version of singleton
which automatically sends a loadbang message to it. After I get over
my jetlag, I'll consider making this the default in sssad's version of
singleton.pd as well. Also it may be useful to send the value of $0 to
an outlet, maybe the first one, but that may break patches which rely
on only a 0 or a 1 coming out there, so I guess I'll have to introduce
a second outlet.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__


single-load.tgz
Description: GNU Unix tar archive
___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] derivative?

[Oded Ben-Tal]

Does anyone know of a patch/object that calculates the derivative of an 
incoming sequence of messages (not signal)?
I am trying to figure out a way of calculating the derivative (by DPCM) 
but all I can come up with are very cumbersome and ugly (keeping the last 
4 values and then switching their positions ready for the next iteration 
works in c, but seems awkward in pd) I presume there is a simple elegant 
way of doing it but I just can't see it.

Thanks
Oded

-- 
___
Oded Ben-Tal
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] Do [singleton]s get loadbangs?

[Phil Stone]

Hello all,

I'm trying to figure out how to use [singleton] from [sssad] so that I 
can instantiate some lookup tables once and only once for use in 
multiple patches.

The [singleton] help patch is a bit cryptic, but I've so far guessed 
that I can wrap the table-creating object like so: 

[singleton WTAB waveTables]

It appears that the tables are correctly allocated by this, but they are 
not initialized; i.e. the arrays are created, but the code that fills 
them in is not triggered, even though there is a [loadbang] in 
[waveTables] that's supposed to trigger it.

So my question is first, am I even close to using [singleton] 
correctly?  and secondly, do objects created by [singleton] get a loadbang?


Phil Stone
http://pkstonemusic.com

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

[Thomas O Fredericks]

Ok, I understand.

Then what should I call it?
"freesend" or "destroysend" or "destructorsend"
or
"free_send" or "destroy_send" or "destructor_send"

"On top of this, it gets triggered in the
middle of deleting a patch, which means you can't rely on the patch being
complete and you can't rely on the patch being empty either. "

This is not an issue with this external as it is made to annonce to another
patch that the current patch is being deleted.

On 9/3/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
>
> > Since I started making externals for PD, here is a new one: [closemsg X]
> > It sends a bang to X when it is destroyed. It therefore acts as a
> > closebang. See attached source and i386 linux binary.
>
> It shouldn't be called "close" because [closebang] is made to be banged
> just before deleting objects in the patch, just like [initbang] and
> [loadbang] are made to be banged after actual creation. [closemsg] gets
> triggered too late for that. On top of this, it gets triggered in the
> middle of deleting a patch, which means you can't rely on the patch being
> complete and you can't rely on the patch being empty either.
>
>   _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
> | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada




-- 
thomas ouellet fredericks, [EMAIL PROTECTED], montreal, canada
___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

[mami music]

Hi i´m getting this error
stream connected.
connection lost (too little input)
stream connected.
connection lost (too little input)
stream connected.
connection lost (too little input)
stream connected.
connection lost (too little input)

 on the pd window of the remote computer  when sending a stream over the
internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound but
in an intermitent way, with silences.

Is it problem of the network?
any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream?
maby using other objects?

ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue?

thanks

daniel
___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pyext install

[Thomas Grill]

Hi all,
it's possible that i introduced a mismatch of versions of flext and  
flext-based externals into the CVS.
I'll have to look into it... sorry for the mess.
best greetings, Thomas

Am 03.09.2007 um 18:33 schrieb patrick:

> hi olsen,
>
> i think PYTHONPREFIX should be /usr
> but i tried it and this is what i got:
>
> make -f ../flext/buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=lnx RTSYS=pd
> COMPILER=gcc BUILDPATH=../flext/buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt
> BUILDCLASS=ext USRCONFIG=config.txt USRMAKE=build/gnumake-lnx-gcc.inc
> TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=multi THREADED=1 _build_
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pat/src/externals/grill/py'
> mkdir -p pd-linux/release-multi/
> g++ -c -msse -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -O3 -march=pentium4 -pthread - 
> fPIC
> -DPY_EXPORTS -DPY_USE_GIL -DNDEBUG -DFLEXT_THREADS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -DPD
> -I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/home/pat/src/pd-0.40-2/src
> -I/usr/local/include/stk -I/usr/local/include/sndobj
> -I/usr/local/include/flext source/main.cpp -o
> pd-linux/release-multi/main.opp
> source/main.h:32: error: expected class-name before ‘{’ token
> /usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h: In member function ‘void
> TypedFifo::Put(T*) [with T = FifoEl]’:
> source/pybase.h:179: instantiated from here
> /usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:456: error: no matching  
> function
> for call to ‘TypedFifo::Put(FifoEl*)’
> /usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:405: note: candidates are:  
> void
> Fifo::Put(Lifo::Cell*)
> /usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h: In member function ‘T*
> TypedLifo::Pop() [with T = FifoEl]’:
> /usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:466: instantiated from ‘T*
> PooledFifo::New() [with T = FifoEl, int M = 2, int O = 1]’
> source/pybase.h:177: instantiated from here
> /usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:380: error: invalid  
> static_cast
> from type ‘Lifo::Cell*’ to type ‘FifoEl*’
> make[1]: *** [pd-linux/release-multi/main.opp] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pat/src/externals/grill/py'
> make: *** [build-release-multi] Error 2
>
>
> is py compatible with python2.5?
> patrick
>
> ___
> PD-list@iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ 
> listinfo/pd-list
>


___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] new external: closemsg

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Thomas O Fredericks wrote:

Since I started making externals for PD, here is a new one: [closemsg X] 
It sends a bang to X when it is destroyed. It therefore acts as a 
closebang. See attached source and i386 linux binary.


It shouldn't be called "close" because [closebang] is made to be banged 
just before deleting objects in the patch, just like [initbang] and 
[loadbang] are made to be banged after actual creation. [closemsg] gets 
triggered too late for that. On top of this, it gets triggered in the 
middle of deleting a patch, which means you can't rely on the patch being 
complete and you can't rely on the patch being empty either.


 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] error running pd extended

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
Matthew Polashek hat gesagt: // Matthew Polashek wrote:

> Anyone have any ideas why I get this error?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8-linux-i686/bin$ pd
> pd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.80.0.so.0: cannot 
> open shared object file: No such file or directory

Don't waste time to figure out this error, better use a newer
Pd-extended. 0.38 is two years old or older.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD externals/extras/OSC and RT and JACK

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
Ken Restivo hat gesagt: // Ken Restivo wrote:

> Thanks. The command appears to be "pd dsp 1;", which I'm now putting in all 
> my patches.

I think, you may soon find that putting it in all your patches is a
waste of time and space. Just put one in your main patch or make a
special abstraction which includes a toggle for switching dsp on and
off. I normally use the attached [ezdac~] in my patches instead of a
plain [dac~].

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__


ezdac~.pd
Description: application/puredata
___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pyext install

[patrick]

hi olsen,

i think PYTHONPREFIX should be /usr
but i tried it and this is what i got:

make -f ../flext/buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=lnx RTSYS=pd 
COMPILER=gcc BUILDPATH=../flext/buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt 
BUILDCLASS=ext USRCONFIG=config.txt USRMAKE=build/gnumake-lnx-gcc.inc 
TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=multi THREADED=1 _build_
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pat/src/externals/grill/py'
mkdir -p pd-linux/release-multi/
g++ -c -msse -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -O3 -march=pentium4 -pthread -fPIC 
-DPY_EXPORTS -DPY_USE_GIL -DNDEBUG -DFLEXT_THREADS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -DPD 
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/home/pat/src/pd-0.40-2/src 
-I/usr/local/include/stk -I/usr/local/include/sndobj 
-I/usr/local/include/flext source/main.cpp -o 
pd-linux/release-multi/main.opp
source/main.h:32: error: expected class-name before ‘{’ token
/usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h: In member function ‘void 
TypedFifo::Put(T*) [with T = FifoEl]’:
source/pybase.h:179: instantiated from here
/usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:456: error: no matching function 
for call to ‘TypedFifo::Put(FifoEl*)’
/usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:405: note: candidates are: void 
Fifo::Put(Lifo::Cell*)
/usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h: In member function ‘T* 
TypedLifo::Pop() [with T = FifoEl]’:
/usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:466: instantiated from ‘T* 
PooledFifo::New() [with T = FifoEl, int M = 2, int O = 1]’
source/pybase.h:177: instantiated from here
/usr/local/include/flext/flcontainers.h:380: error: invalid static_cast 
from type ‘Lifo::Cell*’ to type ‘FifoEl*’
make[1]: *** [pd-linux/release-multi/main.opp] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pat/src/externals/grill/py'
make: *** [build-release-multi] Error 2


is py compatible with python2.5?
patrick

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Steffen wrote:

On 23/08/2007, at 15.13, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:
Are there for each  - or any - i of the numbers
1,2,3,14,15,16,17,21,22,23,24,25,26,31,34,35,36,37,38,41 a paper
named i-.pdf ?


They were submissions and they have been rejected. For example, #21 was 
«An Alternate File Format for PureData» :


Abstract: This paper describes several improvements to the PureData file 
format, with various levels of integration with the existing format for
enhanced backwards-compatibility. It mainly covers: quoting and escaping 
in symbols; nested lists; semi-persistent object numbering (to integrate
better with the diff tool, cvs, patch, etc); additional visual information 
directives especially for object constructors that can't take any extra
arguments; coloured and segmented wires (patchcords); coloured objectboxes 
or messageboxes or comments; etc.


 _ _ __ ___ _  _ _ ...
| Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD externals/extras/OSC and RT and JACK

[Ken Restivo]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:09:42AM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> hi.
> 
> Ken Restivo wrote:
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >>you hae to turn the audio-engine on in order to hear something.
> >>there is a little checkbox in the main pd-window that says "compute
> >>audio", try enabling that...
> >>btw, this should be explained in the docs (if it is not, i think it is a
> >>serious omission)
> >>
> >
> >I didn't see it. Nor did I see mention of any command-line flag to 
> >eliminate this requirement, i.e. to have the audio-engine start up when 
> >the program is launched.
> 
> as frank has already pointed out, this is covered by chapter-2 in the 
> html-documentation of pd (doc/1.manual/x2.htm)
> 
> there is no way to turn on audio-computation via a command-line flag and 
> there is no need for it, as you can load a patch on startup and within 
> the patch you can automatically turn audio on (e.g. like the 
> test-audio-and-midi patch does)

Thanks. The command appears to be "pd dsp 1;", which I'm now putting in all my 
patches.

- -ken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFG3D4be8HF+6xeOIcRAnDJAJ0SDaTHXNkpOERcXUN3PKFQLL/FHgCg3icW
gzRi7XEmV82mklKlusBC+so=
=k2V4
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] error running pd extended

[Matthew Polashek]

Anyone have any ideas why I get this error?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8-linux-i686/bin$ pd
pd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack-0.80.0.so.0: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory


Thanks!
Matt

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] playback noise with video

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> Frank Barknecht wrote:
> > Because there is no (easy) way to delay the visuals, things will be out of 
> > sync.
> 
> i cannot imagine something more easy than using [pix_delay].
> (well, i can imagine _something_)
> 
> this does of course only works as long as you are in pixel-space (which
> we are currently talking about), and not in 3d/opengl.

Oh, sorry, I actually *was* thinking about about 3d/opengl stuff here.
Blame it on the jetlag ...

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] 39.3-extended-rc5 - FFT causes audio failure on 1.67 G4

[Achim Bornhoeft]

Where/How can I do this?

Achim

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> Could you add your information and details about your machine to the bug 
> tracker for that bug?
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Aug 30, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Achim Bornhoeft wrote:
> 
>> I have the same problem on a G4, 1.25 Powerbook.
>>
>> Achim
>>
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
>>> Hmm, that's a strange bug.  I can't reproduce this on a Mac/Intel, 
>>> but I could on another 1.67GHz Mac runing 10.4.10  My guess is that 
>>> it's another manifestation of that same 1.67 Mac audio bug.  It 
>>> worked fine for me using the latest Pd-0.40.3-extended nightly build:
>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-08-01/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20070801-macosx104-powerpc.dmg
>>>  
>>>
>>> .hc
>>> On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Ed Richardson wrote:
 Browser/Audio Examples/I04.noisegate.pd causes a complete failure of 
 audio in Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-macosx104-powerpc.dmg.

 system:
 mac os 10.4.10
 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4

 Upon adjusting either the sampler or noise amplitude parameters, 
 there is a fairly loud single pop, upon which all audio ceases on 
 the computer altogether. Audio will only resume once I quit Pd.

 Neither of the following strategies in any combination improve this 
 situation:
 48K instead of 44.1K
 use of JACK rather than portaudio

 I believe several other fft-based patches are affected by this.

 This is not a problem in any of the following:
 38.4-extended
 39.2-non-extended
 40.2-non-extended

 ---

 Also, I'm curious what anyone knows about the frequent Pd-related 
 audio card issues with the 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook.
 ___
 PD-list@iem.at  mailing list
 UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
 http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>> There is no way to peace, peace is the way.   -A.J. Muste
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list
>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>> -- 
>>Achim Bornhoeft
>> .- Neckarhalde 38, D-72070 Tuebingen
>> -.-.   tel/fax +49 (0)7071 942745
>> -...   mobil +49 (0)179 6936930
>>skype:achim.bornhoeft?call
>> -- 
>>
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> There is no way to peace, peace is the way.   -A.J. Muste
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Achim Bornhoeft
.- Neckarhalde 38, D-72070 Tuebingen
-.-.   tel/fax +49 (0)7071 942745
-...   mobil +49 (0)179 6936930
skype:achim.bornhoeft?call
--



___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD externals/extras/OSC and RT and JACK

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

hi.

Ken Restivo wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
>> you hae to turn the audio-engine on in order to hear something.
>> there is a little checkbox in the main pd-window that says "compute
>> audio", try enabling that...
>> btw, this should be explained in the docs (if it is not, i think it is a
>> serious omission)
>>
> 
> I didn't see it. Nor did I see mention of any command-line flag to eliminate 
> this requirement, i.e. to have the audio-engine start up when the program is 
> launched.

as frank has already pointed out, this is covered by chapter-2 in the 
html-documentation of pd (doc/1.manual/x2.htm)

there is no way to turn on audio-computation via a command-line flag and 
there is no need for it, as you can load a patch on startup and within 
the patch you can automatically turn audio on (e.g. like the 
test-audio-and-midi patch does)

> 
> Thanks. I was looking for a pd-discuss list, and didn't find one, but I'll 
> use pd-list from now on.

no problem, however i find that "This mailinglist is meant as a platform 
for the ever growing PD-community to discuss things related to PD. " is 
pretty clear that pd-list _is_ as discussion list on pd :-)


fmga.sdr
IOhannes

___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

[Steffen]

On 23/08/2007, at 15.13, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:

> The papers for the convention are online at :
> http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/

Thanks! It's nice to be able to read them, even though one weren't  
there. Two questions though:

Are there for each  - or any - i of the numbers  
1,2,3,14,15,16,17,21,22,23,24,25,26,31,34,35,36,37,38,41 a paper  
named i-.pdf ?



___
PD-list@iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list