Re: [PD] pd, windows & ubuntu
I tried running pd -verbose from the terminal, but got the same errors. It looks like at least some of the extended libraries are not being searched, and that pd is not searching subdirectories of the paths I entered. I'm sure it is something simple, but being fairly in the dark about both pd and linux, putting the two together is a recipe for confusion. JN On Feb 16, 2008 8:11 PM, Kevin McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does the sigpack library load when you specify it in the "Startup" > preferences? The .pd_linux extension is just a pd external binary for > linux. I have had problems like this before - try running pd with > verbose (pd -verbose from the terminal) and see what you get as far as > specific errors. This can and will be fixed - it's probably something > simple :) > > km > > > On Feb 16, 2008 8:48 PM, Joe Newlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay, I was using .40-2. So I installed .39 extended, and solved one > > problem: objects had been resized and everything was a mess. > > > > That's okay now. > > > > But some objects are missing, e.g. decimate~ from extra/sigpack. The > > object is installed in /usr/lib/local/pd/extra/sigpack (with a > > .pd_linux extension - which leads me to wonder what this extension is, > > and why these objects have it) but pd can't create the object. > > > > Having similar trouble with other objects in different paths, although > > I have tried defining the paths in File menu and everything looks > > okay, but the objects aren't being created. > > > > I appreciate the help, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2008 3:46 PM, Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What specific error messages are you seeing? > > > Are objects missing? Have paths changed? > > > > > > Which versions are you using on the respective machines? > > > It could be more to do with that than the OS. > > > > > > Locate errors by reading the console and using > > > Edit->Find Last Error > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:35:23 -0800 > > > "Joe Newlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm new to both PD and Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > I've been mainly using PD on Windows XP, but I've been trying to use > > > > it on Ubuntu as well. > > > > > > > > I noticed that patches I've created on XP don't quite work correctly > > > > in Ubuntu. Why is this, and what can I do about it? > > > > > > > > Also, I'm having trouble getting PD in Ubuntu to locate abstractions, > > > > even after defining search paths. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Use the source > > > > > > ___ > > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > -- > > > http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd, windows & ubuntu
Does the sigpack library load when you specify it in the "Startup" preferences? The .pd_linux extension is just a pd external binary for linux. I have had problems like this before - try running pd with verbose (pd -verbose from the terminal) and see what you get as far as specific errors. This can and will be fixed - it's probably something simple :) km On Feb 16, 2008 8:48 PM, Joe Newlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, I was using .40-2. So I installed .39 extended, and solved one > problem: objects had been resized and everything was a mess. > > That's okay now. > > But some objects are missing, e.g. decimate~ from extra/sigpack. The > object is installed in /usr/lib/local/pd/extra/sigpack (with a > .pd_linux extension - which leads me to wonder what this extension is, > and why these objects have it) but pd can't create the object. > > Having similar trouble with other objects in different paths, although > I have tried defining the paths in File menu and everything looks > okay, but the objects aren't being created. > > I appreciate the help, thanks. > > > > > On Feb 16, 2008 3:46 PM, Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What specific error messages are you seeing? > > Are objects missing? Have paths changed? > > > > Which versions are you using on the respective machines? > > It could be more to do with that than the OS. > > > > Locate errors by reading the console and using > > Edit->Find Last Error > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:35:23 -0800 > > "Joe Newlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm new to both PD and Ubuntu. > > > > > > I've been mainly using PD on Windows XP, but I've been trying to use > > > it on Ubuntu as well. > > > > > > I noticed that patches I've created on XP don't quite work correctly > > > in Ubuntu. Why is this, and what can I do about it? > > > > > > Also, I'm having trouble getting PD in Ubuntu to locate abstractions, > > > even after defining search paths. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > ___ > > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > -- > > Use the source > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] what libraries are included in 0.39-3? and how to install multiple externals?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Kevin McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 16, 2008 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [PD] what libraries are included in 0.39-3? and how to install multiple externals? To: bryan eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yo b, Are you on OS X, Win32, or Linux? Almost every popular external, unauthorized definitely, is included in Pd-ext .39-3. To load a library every time you start pd, go to File > Startup and you'll see several rows where you can type the name of the lib you want to load at startup. For example to load sevy's "unauthorized" lib you would type unauthorized, click "Save all settings" and the restart pd. In Pd's terminal window it will often say what libs are loaded if they are programmed to give a shout-out on startup. Finding out what is and isn't there is tricky, but if you tell us what platform you're on it will be easy to explain. In my experience the only big thing that isn't there is Gridflow and some wilder stuff. Also, you wouldn't happen to be the same Bryan Eubanks who made this record: http://www.gmby.net/releases/gb100.html Cause if so that stuff is really good and we should talk. cheers km On Feb 16, 2008 6:36 PM, bryan eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > I have been searching for a clear tutorial on external installation and > haven't found one, if someone can point me to one, please do. > my question regards what libraries are included in pd extended .39-3 > (looking for unauthorized in particular) and how do I load these at start up > as well as how do I make a path to externals I have placed on my hard drive > under /myexternals or something? > thanks > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy -- http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd, windows & ubuntu
Okay, I was using .40-2. So I installed .39 extended, and solved one problem: objects had been resized and everything was a mess. That's okay now. But some objects are missing, e.g. decimate~ from extra/sigpack. The object is installed in /usr/lib/local/pd/extra/sigpack (with a .pd_linux extension - which leads me to wonder what this extension is, and why these objects have it) but pd can't create the object. Having similar trouble with other objects in different paths, although I have tried defining the paths in File menu and everything looks okay, but the objects aren't being created. I appreciate the help, thanks. On Feb 16, 2008 3:46 PM, Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What specific error messages are you seeing? > Are objects missing? Have paths changed? > > Which versions are you using on the respective machines? > It could be more to do with that than the OS. > > Locate errors by reading the console and using > Edit->Find Last Error > > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:35:23 -0800 > "Joe Newlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to both PD and Ubuntu. > > > > I've been mainly using PD on Windows XP, but I've been trying to use > > it on Ubuntu as well. > > > > I noticed that patches I've created on XP don't quite work correctly > > in Ubuntu. Why is this, and what can I do about it? > > > > Also, I'm having trouble getting PD in Ubuntu to locate abstractions, > > even after defining search paths. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joe > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > -- > Use the source > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd, windows & ubuntu
What specific error messages are you seeing? Are objects missing? Have paths changed? Which versions are you using on the respective machines? It could be more to do with that than the OS. Locate errors by reading the console and using Edit->Find Last Error On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:35:23 -0800 "Joe Newlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to both PD and Ubuntu. > > I've been mainly using PD on Windows XP, but I've been trying to use > it on Ubuntu as well. > > I noticed that patches I've created on XP don't quite work correctly > in Ubuntu. Why is this, and what can I do about it? > > Also, I'm having trouble getting PD in Ubuntu to locate abstractions, > even after defining search paths. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] what libraries are included in 0.39-3? and how to install multiple externals?
hello, I have been searching for a clear tutorial on external installation and haven't found one, if someone can point me to one, please do. my question regards what libraries are included in pd extended .39-3 (looking for unauthorized in particular) and how do I load these at start up as well as how do I make a path to externals I have placed on my hard drive under /myexternals or something? thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-2 released
Miller Puckette wrote: > Hi all, > > three more bug fixes, including one I forgot to throw in the release notes: > I figured out why cutting/pasting text into boxes didn't work on > MACOS or Windows. thanks!! I could think about other interface related changes: for example when only one object is selected and you start typing (any other than arrows) it should be possible to write into the object without an additional click into the object. I often use ctrl+d to duplicate an object and then arrow keys to place it on the canvas, and then I would like to just start typing into the object. or when there is more than one object selected and I click into one object, but do not drag, then that object could switch to type-entry mode. right now I have to unselect all objects by clicking into the canvas and then click into the box to start text entry. and also exiting entry mode with enter would actually be nice, too. (for messages cr could be shift+enter (the cr is overwritten anyway). btw are there any hooks so that more actions could be triggered by keyboard shortcuts? (i think pd.tk holds some keyboard shortcuts..) oh, and one other thing I find useful in max is the alt click and drag function. you click on an object and as soon as you start draging that object is duplicated, but at the same time you already have the new object at the cursor position and can place it fast at a new spot. cheers, marius. The others: a crash bug on windows when restarting DSP > repeatedly, and netsend/netreceive sometimes dropping data. > > cheers > Miller > > > ___ > PD-announce mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd, windows & ubuntu
Hi, I'm new to both PD and Ubuntu. I've been mainly using PD on Windows XP, but I've been trying to use it on Ubuntu as well. I noticed that patches I've created on XP don't quite work correctly in Ubuntu. Why is this, and what can I do about it? Also, I'm having trouble getting PD in Ubuntu to locate abstractions, even after defining search paths. Thanks, Joe ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41-2 released
Hi all, three more bug fixes, including one I forgot to throw in the release notes: I figured out why cutting/pasting text into boxes didn't work on MACOS or Windows. The others: a crash bug on windows when restarting DSP repeatedly, and netsend/netreceive sometimes dropping data. cheers Miller ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ANN] Lily, browser based visual programming language released
Hi, I just saw this email now, don't know how I missed it before, sorry- yes, i am planning to improve the audio support in the next version, though it will probably just be a buffer external and a player. right now, i don't plan on adding modular audio (like pd/msp). maybe if javascript ever becomes fast enough, it would be fun to do a javascript implementation. thanks -Bill On Jan 31, 2008, at 7:40 AM, yves degoyon wrote: > ola, > > very interesting tool, already in usable state, surely .. > only i would like to know if the sound will one day work on linux, > maybe using the java sound API, > here we don't have the quicktime installed... > > aldo, do you plan to develop more audio objects? > > thanx for your work > sevy > > Bill Orcutt wrote: > >> Hi All- >> >> I'm happy to announce that the first beta release of Lily, an >> browser based visual programming environment for Firefox/Mozilla, >> is now available for download. Lily is a patcher interface to the >> functionality of Mozilla platform: svg graphics, html/xul UI, >> networking, file system access, xml parsing/transformation & >> sqlite data storage. It's OSC enabled, is capable of interfacing >> with the Arduino I/O board and has a processing compatible >> graphics api. It's written in Javascript. >> >> Have a look at the music/graphics examples below to get a feel for >> some of what it can do: >> >> http://www.vimeo.com/625294 >> http://www.vimeo.com/625739 >> http://www.vimeo.com/625400 >> http://www.vimeo.com/625460 >> >> More information about Lily is available on the website: >> http://www.lilyapp.org/ >> >> thanks >> >> -Bill >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] autobuilds using svn
Hey guys, Okay, I have a legit fink environment now with all Pd-extended dependencies. There is a bug in the 0.28.0 release which prevented me from installing Jack (something having to do w/ a virtual dependency)... i cleared it out and installed Jack first, the rest fell into place easily. Only 2 issues remain. I can build Miller's vanilla PD without Jack support, the most current Jack from fink is installed on my system, in addition to tcl/tk 8.5.1. 1. The configure script is unable to find Jack in my fink installation 2. When built w/o Jack, the build is unable to find -ltcl8.5, and tries to build against 8.4 (which I don't have) but succeeds. When Pd is executed, it crashes trying to run Wish.app version 8.4 (which I don't have). Besides those two issues, all looks good. If anyone is able to help me out w/ this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Peace, ~Brandon ps: lets move this discussion over to Pd-Dev On Feb 15, 2008, at 6:06 PM, David Plans Casal wrote: > > On 15 Feb 2008, at 20:12, brandon zeeb wrote: > >> I'm using that, actually, and flac from darwinports. At this point, >> the builds fail at g_canvas.c... I can't even get Millers Pd to build >> yet. >> >> By the way, how does one get Miller's Pd packaged into a application >> bundle? > > use packages/darwin_app, look at the Makefile, customise for your > setup (pd path, etc) > > david > >> ~Brandon >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> >>> Well, one thing that should make it easier is that Pd-extended uses >>> jackosx.com's package rather than the fink package. It's already >>> built for 10.5. Ultimately, it would be good to switch to the Fink >>> version since it would then be automatically included into the Pd- >>> extended.app, but that can come later. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2008, at 11:05 AM, bsoisoi wrote: >>> Hi David, Have you had any success installing all of pd-extended's dependencies? It appears a bug in Fink is preventing me from installing Jack and Flac. Let me know of your progress, we should collaborate and hopefully get this done quicker. Peace, ~Brandon On Feb 15, 2008, at 10:11 AM, David Plans Casal wrote: > ah, nevermind > > ;-) > > d > > On 15 Feb 2008, at 13:06, bsoisoi wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> I'll have the Pd-extended intel builds back online within the >> next >> week or so, assuming the few remaining dependencies can be built >> appropriately for 10.5 (flac and jack).I too am really >> looking >> forward to having the intel builds back as well. Frankly, this >> box is >> practically brand new, we can use this box until it croaks. It >> is >> not >> being used for anything else at the moment. >> >> Cheers, >> ~Brandon >> On Feb 14, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> >>> No, there is no Intel Mac any more. The one that was being used >>> got >>> repurposed. bsoisoi is working on getting a 10.5/Leopard box >>> running >>> to host nightly builds. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2008, at 6:52 PM, marius schebella wrote: >>> great, did you set up the intel mac, too? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I switching the autobuilds to slurp from SVN. Let's hope > things > run smoothly tonight, then we'll have up-to-date nightly > builds > again. > Also, I ran updates on all of the GNU/Linux boxes. > .hc > - > --- > "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but > we > are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit > from scarcity."-John Gilmore > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http:// > lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___
Re: [PD] Pd Fontsizes
If the screen resolution is the same in both computers, try Edit -> Font in your patch window. Ricardo D. On 16/02/2008, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > if the same os is some linux flavour, it is probably because of > different display settings that result in different font scalings. i > noticed, that on computers with smaller resolution sometimes tinier > fonts are used. unfortunately, i don't know what the correct solution > for this problem is, if there is anything that could be considered > *correct*. however, i sometimes was able to solve it by giving the > option '-dpi 80' when doing 'startx'. alternativel it might also help to > specify 'DisplaySize X Y' in 'Section "Monitor"' in your xorg.conf. > Making the Display bigger than it actually is scales down fonts and vice > versa. > > roman > > > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 11:29 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: > > Hi! > > > > What reason can there be if the same patch does not display the same > > fontsizes on two different computers, both running the same OS and the > > same Pd version? > > > > regards, PP > > > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: > http://mail.yahoo.de > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Fontsizes
if the same os is some linux flavour, it is probably because of different display settings that result in different font scalings. i noticed, that on computers with smaller resolution sometimes tinier fonts are used. unfortunately, i don't know what the correct solution for this problem is, if there is anything that could be considered *correct*. however, i sometimes was able to solve it by giving the option '-dpi 80' when doing 'startx'. alternativel it might also help to specify 'DisplaySize X Y' in 'Section "Monitor"' in your xorg.conf. Making the Display bigger than it actually is scales down fonts and vice versa. roman On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 11:29 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: > Hi! > > What reason can there be if the same patch does not display the same > fontsizes on two different computers, both running the same OS and the > same Pd version? > > regards, PP > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Fontsizes
Thanks, will have a look! glg, Peter Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > Peter Plessas wrote: >> What reason can there be if the same patch does not display the same >> fontsizes on two different computers, both running the same OS and the >> same Pd version? > > Screen DPI setting. This could even vary between two screens on the > same computer in a dual-head setup, here it happens to be the same: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep DPI /var/log/Xorg.0.log > (++) fglrx(0): DPI set to (100, 100) > (++) fglrx(1): DPI set to (100, 100) > >> regards, PP > > Claude ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Fontsizes
Peter Plessas wrote: > What reason can there be if the same patch does not display the same > fontsizes on two different computers, both running the same OS and the > same Pd version? Screen DPI setting. This could even vary between two screens on the same computer in a dual-head setup, here it happens to be the same: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep DPI /var/log/Xorg.0.log (++) fglrx(0): DPI set to (100, 100) (++) fglrx(1): DPI set to (100, 100) > regards, PP Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd Fontsizes
Hi! What reason can there be if the same patch does not display the same fontsizes on two different computers, both running the same OS and the same Pd version? regards, PP ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
