[PD] ann: pd as the engine for our class installation

2008-07-10 Thread John Harrison
This semester I taught a course where Engineers and Artists worked 
together to create interactive art. For the final project we took over 
an art gallery and built a virtual environment using 12 computers, 12 
speakers, 12 projectors and several Arduinos. We built and networked 
everything in Pd/GEM. Unfortunately the video doesn't capture much of 
the very cool sounds of the environment, but at least you will see the 
networked sparklers running in GEM.

I hope you enjoy:
http://vimeo.com/994958

I am so grateful for Pd as a resource for me, my classes and my 
community. I send this hoping that perhaps a developer or 2 will find it 
gratifying to see some of the work that we are able to accomplish with 
this amazing tool.

-John

-- 
John Harrison
http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison


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[PD] frequency components analysis

2008-07-10 Thread Julian Villegas
Dear list,
I'm using sigmund~ for extracting the freq. components of a sound but I was 
wondering if you know another object that does the same job using a different 
approach. I'd like to compare the results obtained by different methods. 
Thank in advance for your replies!

 Julian Villegas

Me pregunto de un modo pensativo
Que significa ser Colombiano?
No se le respondi. Es un acto de fe
JLB.


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Re: [PD] why bother...

2008-07-10 Thread Andre Schmidt
yes sir... i couldn't resist the itch anyway :)

http://osku.de/simsui/simsui-PROTOTYPE3.ogg
http://osku.de/simsui/simsui-PROTOTYPE3.tar.gz

there is probably a bug in my code, clutter0.6 or nvidia closed-source
drivers, that makes the first slider and background to flicker when
you move a thumb while there is input coming from OSC... but as it seems
to work fine on my debian eeepc (intel graphics) i don't care... 

now where did i see that DIY touchscreen for eeepc :P

.andre


On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 19:23 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
 Because we need you.
 
 Take a break. Then get back to work on your
 code soldier. Keep your chin up and stay on board
 for the big win.
 
 
 On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:52:19 +0200
 Andre Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello pd world,
  
  i have now come to the conclusion that FLOSS coding is just wasting my
  time, as i don't want to get abused by some dirty closed-source
  shameless bastards. so i won't be evolving this cool idea anymore:
  
  SimSUI - a Simple SVG User Interface - http://osku.de/simsui
  
  but as my first intention was to let it communicate with pd (add OSC to
  vanilla pd already!;), i would like to dedicate that small idea/code to
  pd(-list), my first open-source love...
  
  i could say do what ever you want with that (lousy) code, but as long
  as closed-source is not illegal, every one can do what ever they want
  with every code, so no use to say the obvious...
  
  ask me again when the revolution starts!
  .andre
  
  p.s. some ass holes has/will probably software patented the idea anyway,
  so why bother...
  
  
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[PD] shell problem on osx

2008-07-10 Thread marius schebella
Hi,
when I use the shell object on osx, I get an error after every command I 
send to it. The application pd quit unexpectedly.
anybody know why and how to get rid of that?
thanks a lot.
marius.

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[PD] flash server open on osx

2008-07-10 Thread marius schebella
Hi,
the flashserver object has a nice feature to open flash files from 
within pd, but unfortunately this does not work on osx. it works on 
windows, not sure about linux. flashserver announces that it is opening 
a file:
flashserver: going to open fooflash, but then nothing happens. Is 
someone maintainning this object?
thanks,
marius.


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[PD] how to send song position pointer?

2008-07-10 Thread christian dietz
hi everyone!
i'm trying to send a song position pointer-message to a sequencer  
via the midiout object, but i don't get it to work. as i understood  
the message has to be a status byte (in this case 242 (dez) ) followed  
by two data bytes to set the song position. i'm able to send the  
status byte. e.g. i can send start, stop, continue messages which  
don't need data bytes.
thanks a lot.
christian.

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[PD] -nogui on osx

2008-07-10 Thread marius schebella
Hi,

I am having some troubles getting -nogui option work on osx.
right now there are several problems with that:
if I add -nogui to the startup prefs, the icon in the task bar keeps 
jumping, but pd does not start up. I have to start pd from terminal to 
get it running. otoh, I would prefer a solution without terminal window. 
especially since when closing pd the terminal always stays open.
any help on that would be welcome!

marius.

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[PD] using alternative preference files

2008-07-10 Thread marius schebella
hi,
I am planning to ship a striped down standalone pd versions that will 
provide a one click option to start a patch+interface. This will allow 
to run patches like applications without depending on any user 
preferences. Everything comes out of the box. It turns out that this is 
much easier on windows than on osx. (sorry, no tests on linux yet). One 
thing I don't know right now is where I find the settings which plist pd 
will use. I know that pd vanilla and pd-extended are using different 
plist files, is that defined in pd.tk? I need to provide a preferences 
file that has the -nogui option plus a relative path to the patch that 
should be started...
hans, do you have some (online) docs, how the pd.apps are created? I 
know that the startup process of pd is slightly different than on osx 
(wish starting pd), I wonder if I have to change the app if I want to 
run a -nogui version?
thanks again for any help.
marius.

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[PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!

2008-07-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back!  Please  
let me know if it isn't working for you:

http://pdpedia.org

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Re: [PD] Delete scalars

2008-07-10 Thread Miller Puckette
It's not the list management that's the problem, it's having a way to track 
down 
all stale pointers and un-point them.  Currently this is managed by maintaining 
a
per-list stub that the pointers all check through.  one could have such a stub
for every scalar, but this would add a lot of overhead.  Alternatively, all
gpointers to a given scalar could register themselves somehow, and every time
one deleted a scalar one would track down every pointer to it through the
registration mechanism.  I've been unable to convince myself that the machinery
could be kept lightweight and efficient.

cheers
Miller

On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:04:29AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Miller Puckette wrote:
 
 I'm thinking about making a message to pointer that deletes the object
 after the pointed-to one (thus leaving the pointer itself unchanged) --
 the gotch is that it would stalify all other pointers to the list, at
 least as things are currently implemented.
 
 So, why are singly-linked-lists so crucial to the design of Pd ?
 
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Re: [PD] Delete scalars

2008-07-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Miller Puckette wrote:


On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:04:29AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

So, why are singly-linked-lists so crucial to the design of Pd ?

It's not the list management that's the problem,


I think that this in itself might be a problem.

So, why are singly-linked-lists so crucial to the design of Pd ?

Currently this is managed by maintaining a per-list stub that the 
pointers all check through.  one could have such a stub for every 
scalar, but this would add a lot of overhead.


You can get 8589934592 bits for 23$.

Alternatively, all gpointers to a given scalar could register 
themselves somehow, and every time one deleted a scalar one would track 
down every pointer to it through the registration mechanism.


This concept is already named «weak pointer» nearly everywhere.

I've been unable to convince myself that the machinery could be kept 
lightweight and efficient.


You still need reference counting as much as last time I said it.

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Re: [PD] flash server open on osx

2008-07-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Olaf Matthes maintains a proprietary version for Max/MSP.

.hc

On Jul 10, 2008, at 2:46 PM, marius schebella wrote:

 Hi,
 the flashserver object has a nice feature to open flash files from
 within pd, but unfortunately this does not work on osx. it works on
 windows, not sure about linux. flashserver announces that it is  
 opening
 a file:
 flashserver: going to open fooflash, but then nothing happens. Is
 someone maintainning this object?
 thanks,
 marius.


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Re: [PD] using alternative preference files

2008-07-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Try the new app maker on the Mac OS X builds, you'll need a very  
recent build otherwise it has a bug in it that prevents it from  
working.  It'll automatically create a .app with your name, and  
include an embedded prefs file.

I haven't touched -nogui on Mac OS X in a very long time.  I  
basically only use Debian for running real projects, especially  
installations.  I only use Mac OS X for the mundane day-to-day things  
like email, calendar, palm pilot syncing, etc.

.hc

On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:34 PM, marius schebella wrote:

 hi,
 I am planning to ship a striped down standalone pd versions that will
 provide a one click option to start a patch+interface. This will allow
 to run patches like applications without depending on any user
 preferences. Everything comes out of the box. It turns out that  
 this is
 much easier on windows than on osx. (sorry, no tests on linux yet).  
 One
 thing I don't know right now is where I find the settings which  
 plist pd
 will use. I know that pd vanilla and pd-extended are using different
 plist files, is that defined in pd.tk? I need to provide a preferences
 file that has the -nogui option plus a relative path to the patch that
 should be started...
 hans, do you have some (online) docs, how the pd.apps are created? I
 know that the startup process of pd is slightly different than on osx
 (wish starting pd), I wonder if I have to change the app if I want to
 run a -nogui version?
 thanks again for any help.
 marius.

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Re: [PD] -nogui on osx

2008-07-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Command line options on Mac OS X are problematic since Pd has a  
strange startup procedure: first, pd.tk starts, which starts pd  
which then starts the pd.tk pd-gui process, IIRC.

.hc

On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:19 PM, marius schebella wrote:

 Hi,

 I am having some troubles getting -nogui option work on osx.
 right now there are several problems with that:
 if I add -nogui to the startup prefs, the icon in the task bar keeps
 jumping, but pd does not start up. I have to start pd from terminal to
 get it running. otoh, I would prefer a solution without terminal  
 window.
 especially since when closing pd the terminal always stays open.
 any help on that would be welcome!

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Re: [PD] -nogui on osx

2008-07-10 Thread Simon

On 11 Jul 2008, at 5:19 AM, marius schebella wrote:
 I am having some troubles getting -nogui option work on osx.
 right now there are several problems with that:
 if I add -nogui to the startup prefs, the icon in the task bar keeps
 jumping, but pd does not start up. I have to start pd from terminal to
 get it running. otoh, I would prefer a solution without terminal  
 window.
 especially since when closing pd the terminal always stays open.
 any help on that would be welcome!

there is a simple little .app called Launcher

http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/~steffen/tcltk/Launcher/

save a script as an executable text file, set it to open with  
Launcher, then you can double-click it, or put it in the dock, or  
make it a startup item - whatever you require

Launcher it will just execute the script without opening a terminal  
window


use a script like this:


/Applications/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nogui /Library/Pd/ 
slave.pd; exit


in my case slave.pd opens a fullscreen Gem window and accepts remote  
commands.


simon

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