Re: [PD] HID - send analog on/off to hid device

2009-10-08 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi Derek,

yes, unfortunately it is kind of a pain since the button to turn analog
mode on is not even supposed to be visible on this remote and could lead to
errors if not in the correct state.
Sounds like a very good solution to simply solder across the button
terminals. I'm gonna give it a try!

Thank you, Derek!
Ingo


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Derek Holzer [mailto:de...@umatic.nl]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 19:22
 An: Ingo Scherzinger
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at
 Betreff: Re: [PD] HID - send analog on/off to hid device
 
 If doing it via HID is a pain, then analog mode is usually set
 manually with a button on the device itself. If, as you mention, you
 need to set this more or less permanently at every startup, then you
 could solder a wire across the button terminals to force it to analog
 mode. I've done this for some hacked gamecontroller stuff I did a while
 back.
 
 best,
 D.
 
 Ingo Scherzinger wrote:
 
  does anybody know if it is possible to send “analog on/off” to a hid
  device? If yes – how?
 
 
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[PD] packOSC TimeTag realtime vs. logicaltime

2009-10-08 Thread Wolfgang Jäger
Hello,

I'm using a combination of [pack~] [packOSC] - transmission(UDP) -
[unpackOSC] and a modified version of [unpack~] to send Audio over OSC.
The OSC packages are sent as Bundles so a TimeTag is generated at the
sender's side. I extended the [unpackOSC] object with another outlet
where I'm getting the particular TimeTag of each Bundle.
In the modified version of [unpack~] I evaluate these TimeTags with
regards to dropouts in the transmission.
My problem is that the TimeTags are not accurate, what I ascribe to the
fact, that the TimeTag in [packOSC] is generated as real time instead
of logical time. Using real time the TimeTag-Output is a function
of the audiobuffersize (depending on the cpu load), so in my case, as
the CPU-load is quite big, the values of the TimeTags are not useable
for sequencing the datastream (as there are jumps in the TimeTag I
always assume some packages got lost).
As a workaround I established a sequence number, which is additionally
transmitted in each Bundle. This is an appropiate solution, but it
wouldn't be necessary if the TimeTag would be generated properly.
Are my considerations conclusive?

Wolfgang

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[PD] multi-pc synchrony

2009-10-08 Thread Brian FG Katz
Dear PD-ers,

We are working on an installation with 4 machines running PD to feed 157
loudspeakers. We are interested in reducing latency to a minimum between
channels, and especially between machines. The inter-channel latency in less
than a sample, so all is fine there. For inter-machine latency, we arrive at
differences on the order of 10msec, close to our minimum audio-buffer length
of 11msec. Any small audio-buffer and we get audio artifacts. 

We are using a word clock synchronizer (Nanosyncs HD; Rosendahl), but I
don't think that does latency synchronization. 

My question, is there another means to improve inter-machine latency
performance other than reducing the audio-buffer? 

-Brian
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[PD] Cubemixer installation help

2009-10-08 Thread Konstantinos Benardis
Hi all,

I am trying to install Cubemixer (i´ve tried both 1.0 and 3.0
versions) but i can not find the makefile in /src as the installation
guide says. Is there another way to install it?

Thank you

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Re: [PD] Cubemixer installation help

2009-10-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Konstantinos Benardis wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to install Cubemixer (i´ve tried both 1.0 and 3.0
 versions) but i can not find the makefile in /src as the installation
 guide says. Is there another way to install it?
 

are you using the tarbal or an svn checkout?

fgmar
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Re: [PD] PD'ers in NYC

2009-10-08 Thread Peter Brinkmann
Okay, let's meet at City College at 1pm on Saturday, October 17.
 Peter


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Hehe, no 7pm.  Sorry I seemed to have opened up a can of worms with the
 date change... sorry, it because of my birthday party, so hopefully a worthy
 cause.

 I can do 17th or 18th, but others were expressing interest in weeknights...
 utlimately, Peter, I think you should just choose a time, and those who can
 make it will show up.  Otherwise we'll be scheduling forever ;)  Then
 someone else can choose a time that suits their schedule and venue.

 .hc

 On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote:


 Do you really mean 7am-10am?  That would be hardcore.  But seriously,
 weeknights would not work so well because we may have conflicts with regular
 teaching at the College.  How about the weekend after, October 17 or 18?
 Best,
Peter


 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 The Debian-NYC meetings use these doodle time polls quite well, let's try
 here.  Basically, just type in a unique ID and the times you can make it,
 maybe make it, cannot make it (no login necessary):

 http://doodle.com/96mwth5zekq2xx5y

 .hc

 On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote:


 Okay, now I'm thoroughly confused.  I have no idea who will be attending
 and what their constraints are.  If you want to attend, I suggest you send
 me a quick email and let me know what dates and times would work for you,
 and then I'll see whether I can find a good time for everybody.
  Peter


 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:27 AM, wkc wkcmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Although I've just been a lurker I'd also like to add I can't come on the
 10th or 11th but would definitely show up if it was on any of the other
 dates that Hans-Christoph mentioned.

 Will

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Re: [PD] PD'ers in NYC

2009-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Works for me.

.hc

On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Peter Brinkmann wrote:



Okay, let's meet at City College at 1pm on Saturday, October 17.
 Peter


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


Hehe, no 7pm.  Sorry I seemed to have opened up a can of worms with  
the date change... sorry, it because of my birthday party, so  
hopefully a worthy cause.


I can do 17th or 18th, but others were expressing interest in  
weeknights... utlimately, Peter, I think you should just choose a  
time, and those who can make it will show up.  Otherwise we'll be  
scheduling forever ;)  Then someone else can choose a time that  
suits their schedule and venue.


.hc

On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote:



Do you really mean 7am-10am?  That would be hardcore.  But  
seriously, weeknights would not work so well because we may have  
conflicts with regular teaching at the College.  How about the  
weekend after, October 17 or 18?

Best,
   Peter


On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
h...@at.or.at wrote:


The Debian-NYC meetings use these doodle time polls quite well,  
let's try here.  Basically, just type in a unique ID and the times  
you can make it, maybe make it, cannot make it (no login necessary):


http://doodle.com/96mwth5zekq2xx5y

.hc

On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote:



Okay, now I'm thoroughly confused.  I have no idea who will be  
attending and what their constraints are.  If you want to attend,  
I suggest you send me a quick email and let me know what dates and  
times would work for you, and then I'll see whether I can find a  
good time for everybody.

 Peter


On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:27 AM, wkc wkcmu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

Although I've just been a lurker I'd also like to add I can't come  
on the 10th or 11th but would definitely show up if it was on any  
of the other dates that Hans-Christoph mentioned.


Will

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Re: [PD] packOSC TimeTag realtime vs. logicaltime

2009-10-08 Thread Martin Peach

Wolfgang Jäger wrote:

Hello,

I'm using a combination of [pack~] [packOSC] - transmission(UDP) -
[unpackOSC] and a modified version of [unpack~] to send Audio over OSC.
The OSC packages are sent as Bundles so a TimeTag is generated at the
sender's side. I extended the [unpackOSC] object with another outlet
where I'm getting the particular TimeTag of each Bundle.
In the modified version of [unpack~] I evaluate these TimeTags with
regards to dropouts in the transmission.
My problem is that the TimeTags are not accurate, what I ascribe to the
fact, that the TimeTag in [packOSC] is generated as real time instead
of logical time. Using real time the TimeTag-Output is a function
of the audiobuffersize (depending on the cpu load), so in my case, as
the CPU-load is quite big, the values of the TimeTags are not useable
for sequencing the datastream (as there are jumps in the TimeTag I
always assume some packages got lost).
As a workaround I established a sequence number, which is additionally
transmitted in each Bundle. This is an appropiate solution, but it
wouldn't be necessary if the TimeTag would be generated properly.
Are my considerations conclusive?




At the moment the timetag is calculated when the bundle is opened with 
the [ message. If the ] message doesn't occur at the same time the 
timetag will be wrong as the message doesn't start to get sent until the 
bundle is closed. Then there is the delay in the OS as it schedules the 
packet for the network and the network card deals with possible 
collisions with other packets, etc...
As well, anything [packOSC] does occurs between audio blocks (and may be 
postponed if there is too much going on), so the timing will be jittery 
unless your packets are being composed and sent in precise sync with the 
audio. And if they are being sent to another machine with another clock 
of course this is never going to happen unless you can sync their sound 
cards via SPDIF or word clock. But that's real time.
Because there is no way to know what the 'logical time' is outside of 
your logical frame, just use the sequential block number as your logical 
time. Pack a sequence number followed by a blob, possibly resetting the 
sequence numbers when they get too big. No need for bundle or timetag.


Martin

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