Re: [PD] [GEM] OS X How to compile against SDK 10.5 in os x 10.6
Jaime Oliver wrote: ok, thanks! anyone has an idea? run ./configure edit Make.config add any flags to GEM_CXXFLAGS run make fgmadr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] latency issue
babsyco babsyco wrote: Hi guys-I just have another fairly simple question. I'm running PD on a macbook pro with a 2.26 Intel Core 2 duo processor, 2 gig of memory 1067 MHz DDR3, and I'm using a terratec Phase 24FW external sound card. On my other computer (which was far inferior) using this soundcard with Cubase I had a latency of around 6ms (I couldn't get PD to run on it so I have no basis for comparison there), but running PD on this new setup I can't get the latency down below 20ms with it turning to mush. What do I need to change to get the latency down below 10ms-the soundcard, more ram, or is the processor just too slow? it seems like i missed the linebreaks and your OS. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Basically, all Gem externals that are outside of the main Gem library have to be recompiled once in a while, to match the Gem ABI. the same holds true for all Gem externals that are inside the main Gem library and/aka internals. the process is more automated, though. Perhaps Johannes has a few words to say about how this change happened? $ svn info Path: . URL: https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem/trunk/Gem/src Repository Root: https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem Revision: 2978 $ grep report Base/GemException.h virtual void report(const char*origin=NULL) const throw(); nevertheless: Gem's API is changing every now and then and the ABI is probably even less stable. i would very much like to have a stable extendable API, and it's somewhere on my TODO-list. the current API is rather hmmm. anyhow, all in all: use the version of Gem you compiled/linked your Gem-external with. mgasd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] OS X How to compile against SDK 10.5 in os x 10.6
Hi IOhannes, thanks for writing back, I added -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdkflags to GEM_CXXFLAGS and I still got the error (it's below) please let me know if you have any other suggestions, cheers, J g++ -c -I.. -I/Applications/Pd-0.42-5.app/Contents/Resources//src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -fPIC -freg-struct-return -Os -falign-loops=32 -falign-functions=32 -falign-jumps=32 -funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -fpascal-strings -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk GemPixImageLoad.cpp -o ../Objects/GemPixImageLoad.o GemPixImageLoad.cpp:70: error: ‘GraphicsImportComponent’ was not declared in this scope GemPixImageLoad.cpp: In function ‘imageStruct* image2mem(const char*)’: GemPixImageLoad.cpp:96: error: ‘GraphicsImportComponent’ was not declared in this scope GemPixImageLoad.cpp:96: error: expected `;' before ‘importer’ GemPixImageLoad.cpp:104: error: ‘struct FSSpec’ has no member named ‘name’ GemPixImageLoad.cpp:106: error: ‘struct FSSpec’ has no member named ‘parID’ GemPixImageLoad.cpp:109: error: ‘::GetGraphicsImporterForFile’ has not been declared GemPixImageLoad.cpp:109: error: ‘importer’ was not declared in this scope GemPixImageLoad.cpp:111: error: ‘struct FSSpec’ has no member named ‘name’ GemPixImageLoad.cpp:115: error: ‘importer’ was not declared in this scope GemPixImageLoad.cpp:115: error: ‘QTImage2mem’ cannot be used as a function GemPixImageLoad.cpp: At global scope: GemPixImageLoad.cpp:212: error: redefinition of ‘imageStruct* QTImage2mem’ GemPixImageLoad.cpp:70: error: ‘imageStruct* QTImage2mem’ previously defined here GemPixImageLoad.cpp:212: error: ‘GraphicsImportComponent’ was not declared in this scope make[1]: *** [GemPixImageLoad.o] Error 1 make: *** [Base] Error 2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [GEM] pix_external makefile?
Hi all, Is there a makefile for a pix_external somewhere? OR could someone give me some pointers on how to make one? I am looking for something I can put in a folder with the .cpp and .h files and run make... I suppose I would have to link to GEM somehow... So far, I can only think of the output of compiling gem pix_ in osx and start from there: g++ -c -I.. -I/Applications/Pd-0.42-5.app/Contents/Resources//src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -fPIC -freg-struct-return -Os -falign-loops=32 -falign-functions=32 -falign-jumps=32 -funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -fpascal-strings pix_external.cpp -o ../Objects/pix_external.o best, J -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] denial of service attack
Greetings, Having failed to sleep I constructed a tiny example patch that might crash your Pd or worse. It's based on the XML Entity Explosion attack, but I was initially inspired by some recent exponential type-checking time discussion on the Haskell mailing lists. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org explode.tar.gz Description: application/gzip ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
WHY Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:06:53 +0100 From: claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] denial of service attack Greetings, Having failed to sleep I constructed a tiny example patch that might crash your Pd or worse. It's based on the XML Entity Explosion attack, but I was initially inspired by some recent exponential type-checking time discussion on the Haskell mailing lists. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Installing Cubemixer problem.
Hi list, I tried to compile Cubemixer from source (svn) in Fedora 10, by doing make in /src and i get this error: make -C pd/src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/ pd/src' make[1]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/pd/src' make: *** [pd/bin/pd] Error 2 in /home/kostis/CUBEmixer/pd/src there is a makefile.in makefile.nt and makefile.clean but no Makefile. Am i doing something wrong? Many thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
Exponentials are nature's trees, you have to learn to drive around them. This is a signpost. On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:12:14 +0100 Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com wrote: WHY Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:06:53 +0100 From: claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] denial of service attack Greetings, Having failed to sleep I constructed a tiny example patch that might crash your Pd or worse. It's based on the XML Entity Explosion attack, but I was initially inspired by some recent exponential type-checking time discussion on the Haskell mailing lists. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Installing Cubemixer problem.
First of all sorry for double posting but i did not receive my own posting. I tried to compile with the other method by doing make in /src/libs and pointing to the /src of my local installation of vanilla and i get this error: make -C aconnect INLCUDES=-I/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/../pd/src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/aconnect' cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -mms-bitfields gcc -DHAVE_ALSA -DACONNECT_VERSION=\0.4\ -I.-fPIC -g -O2 -mms-bitfields-c -o aconnect.o aconnect.c cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -mms-bitfields make[1]: *** [aconnect.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/aconnect' make: *** [aconnect-build] Error 2 I have Fedora installed on a mac ppc system. Does anyone have any idea on how to solve these problems? Thank you in advance On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Konstantinos Benardis c.benar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I tried to compile Cubemixer from source (svn) in Fedora 10, by doing make in /src and i get this error: make -C pd/src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/ pd/src' make[1]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/pd/src' make: *** [pd/bin/pd] Error 2 in /home/kostis/CUBEmixer/pd/src there is a makefile.in makefile.nt and makefile.clean but no Makefile. Am i doing something wrong? Many thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gemhead -1
Jack a écrit : About that, there is still an error in the gemhead example. How can i correct this ? (if i can). i just did it Ok, good ! ++ Jack c ++ Jack So higher values (-3) will be rendered before lower values (-10) ;) this one look better. c ++ Jack cyrille ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] latency issue
My experience is that Pd runs better with JACK on OSX. D. babsyco babsyco wrote: Hi guys-I just have another fairly simple question. I'm running PD on a macbook pro with a 2.26 Intel Core 2 duo processor, 2 gig of memory 1067 MHz DDR3, and I'm using a terratec Phase 24FW external sound card. On my other computer (which was far inferior) using this soundcard with Cubase I had a latency of around 6ms (I couldn't get PD to run on it so I have no basis for comparison there), but running PD on this new setup I can't get the latency down below 20ms with it turning to mush. What do I need to change to get the latency down below 10ms-the soundcard, more ram, or is the processor just too slow? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 131: Question the heroic approach ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] latency issue
SNAP. Maybe try using Jack? (if you're not already) It should save you a little CPU overhead, which might allow lower latency. Nick On Oct 16, 2009, at 7:22 AM, babsyco babsyco wrote: Hi guys-I just have another fairly simple question. I'm running PD on a macbook pro with a 2.26 Intel Core 2 duo processor, 2 gig of memory 1067 MHz DDR3, and I'm using a terratec Phase 24FW external sound card. On my other computer (which was far inferior) using this soundcard with Cubase I had a latency of around 6ms (I couldn't get PD to run on it so I have no basis for comparison there), but running PD on this new setup I can't get the latency down below 20ms with it turning to mush. What do I need to change to get the latency down below 10ms-the soundcard, more ram, or is the processor just too slow? Thanks so much. Babsyco. Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or share? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Installing Cubemixer problem.
hi Konstantinos Benardis wrote: First of all sorry for double posting but i did not receive my own posting. you can configure how mailman will send postings to you via the web-interface. a link to this interface is attached to each and every mail you get from the list. I tried to compile with the other method by doing make in /src/libs and pointing to the /src of my local installation of vanilla and i get this error: make -C aconnect INLCUDES=-I/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/../pd/src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/aconnect' cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -mms-bitfields gcc -DHAVE_ALSA -DACONNECT_VERSION=\0.4\ -I.-fPIC -g -O2 -mms-bitfields-c -o aconnect.o aconnect.c cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -mms-bitfields make[1]: *** [aconnect.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/aconnect' make: *** [aconnect-build] Error 2 I have Fedora installed on a mac ppc system. Does anyone have any idea on how to solve these problems? oh its ppc i guess you have to manually remove the -mms-bitfields from all of the makefiles that fail to build with that flag. while i have written the build-system for CUBEmixer, i currently cannot recall whether it calls autoconf for the various libraries. in theory aconnect's autoconf should check whether the compiler accepts -mms-bitfield, and only use it if it does. could you check whether configure has been called and what it said about -mms-bitfield. Thank you in advance hope this helps a bit. fgdaskdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Andrew Faraday wrote: WHY Yeah, frankly, it's a lot easier to eat all RAM in other ways. #N canvas 0 0 450 300 10; #X obj 6 27 loadbang; #X obj 6 8 namecanvas z; #X obj 6 46 until; #X msg 6 65 \; z obj 0 0 table foo 1000; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Using tablet as audio controller in os x (was: Re: wacom external on os x)
I remember, how is the 'silent drum' turning out?? Or maybe that too many years in the past :). I think the cnmat guys just work with max/msp, which has really good support for the wacom. I think I'll try it to see their approach.. but it would be nice to still work in pd for me. Still, I have a question for the wacom/os x users: how do you turn the thing into JUST a controller, and not a pointing device? It took me a long time to figure this out in linux and once I did, I could avoid accidentally clicking on things in the screen when using the stylus pen. Well, I hope someone reading this has figured it out. Mac is nice and smooth, but I am already missing the flexibility. cheers, Rich On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Rich, you probably remember jeff treviño (maybe remember me), I know he just got a wacom tablet working with some old cnmat object: jrtrev...@ucsd.edu best, J On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.comwrote: Actually, I was wondering something else too, Thomas or others who use a wacom tablet on macs. Do you keep it as a pointer device, or is there a way to turn this off? In linux, I was able to just disable it as a pointing device so it was solely a controller in pd. can you post instructions about that somewhere? I might be trying to do that, but the control of hid changes with each linux version (which is the same time frame as I try to use linux). ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wacom external on os x
In the most recent version of Ubuntu, I had to turn off HAL and go back to just using xorg.conf. You can follow a very confused thread (on my part) about this, which eventually leads to success: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=a3297bc90905291044q749cdd85i572f6b4ec771d24f%40mail.gmail.comforum_name=linuxwacom-discuss ... but, essentially you need to remove the hal configure scripts, then make sure the Mouse section in your xorg.conf file does not point to '/dev/input/mice', but to whatever your mouse actually is. Then your tablet will just spit out events without controlling the pointer. Rich On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:07 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Actually, I was wondering something else too, Thomas or others who use a wacom tablet on macs. Do you keep it as a pointer device, or is there a way to turn this off? In linux, I was able to just disable it as a pointing device so it was solely a controller in pd. can you post instructions about that somewhere? I might be trying to do that, but the control of hid changes with each linux version (which is the same time frame as I try to use linux). ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wacom external on os x
Rich E wrote: In the most recent version of Ubuntu, I had to turn off HAL and go back to just using xorg.conf. You can follow a very confused thread (on my part) about this, which eventually leads to success: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=a3297bc90905291044q749cdd85i572f6b4ec771d24f%40mail.gmail.comforum_name=linuxwacom-discuss ... but, essentially you need to remove the hal configure scripts, then make sure the Mouse section in your xorg.conf file does not point to '/dev/input/mice', but to whatever your mouse actually is. Then your tablet will just spit out events without controlling the pointer. I have used this exact trick to make a huge number of x/y controllers out of spare mice, ie. having one mouse controling the X pointer and the rest just send pd events. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] open a subpatch from an abstraction
Hi list, I'm working with abstraction and subpatch, I have a problem and I'm unsatisfied with my solution. My problem: I have a gop abstraction instantiated tree times. In the abstraction there is a subpatch that I want to open/close through a toggle button connected to a pd-subpatch vis $1 msg sent to the same abstraction. It opens/close the subpatch for every instantiated abstraction (in this case thrice) and not just the subpatch from my abstraction. There is a way to do that? What I'm looking for is a way to include $0 in dynamic message, or something like that. An example patch is attached. thanks husk #N canvas 0 0 256 333 10; #X obj 42 49 abstraction; #X obj 43 124 abstraction; #X obj 42 202 abstraction; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 10; #X obj 134 135 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #N canvas 0 293 450 300 subpatch 0; #X text 114 152 this is a subpatch; #X restore 355 93 pd subpatch; #X msg 64 244 \; pd-subpatch vis \$1; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 85 60 1 100 100; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4
ola anyhow, all in all: use the version of Gem you compiled/linked your Gem-external with. yes that's the answer, compile with same Gem than the one you load ( it's mentionned on the wiki )... for the dependency of our package to libcxcore.so.2, it's surprising as the package libcv1 provides libcxcore.so.1.. we'll check it...it must be an error somewhere.. saludos, sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wacom external on os x
On a mac or linux? 2009/10/16 Justin Glenn Smith noisesm...@gmail.com Rich E wrote: In the most recent version of Ubuntu, I had to turn off HAL and go back to just using xorg.conf. You can follow a very confused thread (on my part) about this, which eventually leads to success: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=a3297bc90905291044q749cdd85i572f6b4ec771d24f%40mail.gmail.comforum_name=linuxwacom-discuss ... but, essentially you need to remove the hal configure scripts, then make sure the Mouse section in your xorg.conf file does not point to '/dev/input/mice', but to whatever your mouse actually is. Then your tablet will just spit out events without controlling the pointer. I have used this exact trick to make a huge number of x/y controllers out of spare mice, ie. having one mouse controling the X pointer and the rest just send pd events. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] wacom external on os x
Sorry, should have specified, this was using debian and dyne:bolic Linux. Rich E wrote: On a mac or linux? 2009/10/16 Justin Glenn Smith noisesm...@gmail.com ... I have used this exact trick to make a huge number of x/y controllers out of spare mice, ie. having one mouse controling the X pointer and the rest just send pd events. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD'ers in NYC
Hello everybody, Just a quick reminder that we'll have a patching circle at the VisorLab at City College tomorrow (Saturday) at 1pm. The address is 160 Convent Avenue (take the 1-train to 137th St, or B/C to 135th), and the room is NAC 6/275. NAC is the huge building at the top of the hill. I'll tell security to expect you, but you should probably bring some form of ID just in case. If they give you a hard time, give me a call at 917-658-1525. Peter On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Works for me. .hc On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Okay, let's meet at City College at 1pm on Saturday, October 17. Peter On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Hehe, no 7pm. Sorry I seemed to have opened up a can of worms with the date change... sorry, it because of my birthday party, so hopefully a worthy cause. I can do 17th or 18th, but others were expressing interest in weeknights... utlimately, Peter, I think you should just choose a time, and those who can make it will show up. Otherwise we'll be scheduling forever ;) Then someone else can choose a time that suits their schedule and venue. .hc On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Do you really mean 7am-10am? That would be hardcore. But seriously, weeknights would not work so well because we may have conflicts with regular teaching at the College. How about the weekend after, October 17 or 18? Best, Peter On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: The Debian-NYC meetings use these doodle time polls quite well, let's try here. Basically, just type in a unique ID and the times you can make it, maybe make it, cannot make it (no login necessary): http://doodle.com/96mwth5zekq2xx5y .hc On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Okay, now I'm thoroughly confused. I have no idea who will be attending and what their constraints are. If you want to attend, I suggest you send me a quick email and let me know what dates and times would work for you, and then I'll see whether I can find a good time for everybody. Peter On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:27 AM, wkc wkcmu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Although I've just been a lurker I'd also like to add I can't come on the 10th or 11th but would definitely show up if it was on any of the other dates that Hans-Christoph mentioned. Will ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD'ers in NYC
I'll be there! .hc On Oct 16, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Hello everybody, Just a quick reminder that we'll have a patching circle at the VisorLab at City College tomorrow (Saturday) at 1pm. The address is 160 Convent Avenue (take the 1-train to 137th St, or B/C to 135th), and the room is NAC 6/275. NAC is the huge building at the top of the hill. I'll tell security to expect you, but you should probably bring some form of ID just in case. If they give you a hard time, give me a call at 917-658-1525. Peter On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Works for me. .hc On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Okay, let's meet at City College at 1pm on Saturday, October 17. Peter On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hehe, no 7pm. Sorry I seemed to have opened up a can of worms with the date change... sorry, it because of my birthday party, so hopefully a worthy cause. I can do 17th or 18th, but others were expressing interest in weeknights... utlimately, Peter, I think you should just choose a time, and those who can make it will show up. Otherwise we'll be scheduling forever ;) Then someone else can choose a time that suits their schedule and venue. .hc On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Do you really mean 7am-10am? That would be hardcore. But seriously, weeknights would not work so well because we may have conflicts with regular teaching at the College. How about the weekend after, October 17 or 18? Best, Peter On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: The Debian-NYC meetings use these doodle time polls quite well, let's try here. Basically, just type in a unique ID and the times you can make it, maybe make it, cannot make it (no login necessary): http://doodle.com/96mwth5zekq2xx5y .hc On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Okay, now I'm thoroughly confused. I have no idea who will be attending and what their constraints are. If you want to attend, I suggest you send me a quick email and let me know what dates and times would work for you, and then I'll see whether I can find a good time for everybody. Peter On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:27 AM, wkc wkcmu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Although I've just been a lurker I'd also like to add I can't come on the 10th or 11th but would definitely show up if it was on any of the other dates that Hans-Christoph mentioned. Will ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Installing Cubemixer problem.
Thank you for your reply IOhannes, you can configure how mailman will send postings to you via the web-interface. a link to this interface is attached to each and every mail you get from the list. somehow mailman refuses to accept my option *Receive your own posts to the list but Its not a big problem now that i know it. * oh its ppc i guess you have to manually remove the -mms-bitfields from all of the makefiles that fail to build with that flag. I tried to remove manually the -mms-bitfields flags but i get a really long list of errors starting with: make -C aconnect INLCUDES=-I/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/../pd/src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/aconnect' aconnect.c:21:18: error: m_pd.h: No such file or directory gcc -DHAVE_ALSA -DACONNECT_VERSION=\0.4\ -I.-fPIC -g -O2 -c -o aconnect.o aconnect.c aconnect.c:21:18: error: m_pd.h: No such file or directory aconnect.c:25: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token aconnect.c:29: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before ‘t_object’ aconnect.c:36:28: error: alsa/asoundlib.h: No such file or directory aconnect.c:45: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token aconnect.c:47: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘*’ token ... could you check whether configure has been called and what it said about -mms-bitfield. No, as far as i can understand it doesn´t call configure. The error message in the previous mail is the complete error message. I think this fedora configuration on an old ppc is a bit like acrobatics and i am not a linux/programming acrobat at all :) I will try to do the installation on an Intel machine. Thank you again. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] open a subpatch from an abstraction
Hi Husk ;) Attached is a solution. Hope it helps. ciao m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com #N canvas 97 215 450 431 10; #X obj 134 135 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #N canvas 0 293 450 300 \$0-subpatch 0; #X text 114 152 this is a subpatch; #X restore 355 93 pd \$0-subpatch; #X obj 78 214 list prepend \$0; #X msg 66 295 \; pd-\$1-subpatch vis \$2; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 85 60 1 100 100; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Installing Cubemixer problem.
Konstantinos Benardis wrote: ... I tried to remove manually the -mms-bitfields flags but i get a really long list of errors starting with: make -C aconnect INLCUDES=-I/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/../pd/src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs/aconnect' aconnect.c:21:18: error: m_pd.h: No such file or directory ... you first problem is that /home/kostis/CUBEmixer/src/libs and ../pd/src are all strung together without any space in between them, which together makes a path (to a most likely nonexistent directory), so the compiler cannot find m_pd.h (which is in ../pd/src). I am not sure if just putting a space in between them works, off the top of my head, but I know that putting a space and another -I before ../pd/src will fix that particular problem. Whatever you cahnged in the makefile probably made this happen. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD'ers in NYC
Ironically, though I am the one who started this thread, I'll be at a SuperCollider workshop at HarvestWorks in NYC this weekend. I hope it goes well enough that the PD patching circle can be a regular thing, though, and hope to come next time! -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Andrew Faraday wrote: WHY Yeah, frankly, it's a lot easier to eat all RAM in other ways. #N canvas 0 0 450 300 10; #X obj 6 27 loadbang; #X obj 6 8 namecanvas z; #X obj 6 46 until; #X msg 6 65 \; z obj 0 0 table foo 1000; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; OK, you're all welcome to crash my pd but not to run hostile code on my machine. Now, we now that the code posted my Claude can eat up our RAM but can it write to an executable region or do other really nasty things? On the other hand - does a fresh copy of Vanilla or extended offer simple ways to run system commands? If yes, no odd stack overflow methods are needed to hack a system. Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, András Murányi wrote: OK, you're all welcome to crash my pd but not to run hostile code on my machine. Now, we now that the code posted my Claude can eat up our RAM but can it write to an executable region or do other really nasty things? On the other hand - does a fresh copy of Vanilla or extended offer simple ways to run system commands? If yes, no odd stack overflow methods are needed to hack a system. Just [textfile] and [soundfiler] are enough to overwrite important files. A user's most important data is typically writable, and write-protected files are usually the files that are easy to reinstall from a DVD or whatever. And then writability is only one half of the problem when you can have your personal data uploaded to your enemies. This also goes for any other code one runs on your system. Max by default isn't any safer than Pd by default, and then Perl/Python/Ruby/Tcl/Lua/Bash interpreters by default aren't any safer, and there isn't any point in banning any of those if your four-year-old daughter still can download random EXE files and run them. And so on. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
2009/10/17 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, András Murányi wrote: OK, you're all welcome to crash my pd but not to run hostile code on my machine. Now, we now that the code posted my Claude can eat up our RAM but can it write to an executable region or do other really nasty things? On the other hand - does a fresh copy of Vanilla or extended offer simple ways to run system commands? If yes, no odd stack overflow methods are needed to hack a system. Just [textfile] and [soundfiler] are enough to overwrite important files. A user's most important data is typically writable, and write-protected files are usually the files that are easy to reinstall from a DVD or whatever. And then writability is only one half of the problem when you can have your personal data uploaded to your enemies. Or a worm/rootkit set up on your box. This also goes for any other code one runs on your system. Max by default isn't any safer than Pd by default, and then Perl/Python/Ruby/Tcl/Lua/Bash interpreters by default aren't any safer, and there isn't any point in banning any of those if your four-year-old daughter still can download random EXE files and run them. And so on. Indeed. What's worse, i download scripts from unknown dudes and run them root on a daily basis (most of them are makefiles ;o) Best way of protection is not to make anyone angry, and reading Kevin Mitnick. Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] denial of service attack
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/17 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Just [textfile] and [soundfiler] are enough to overwrite important files. A user's most important data is typically writable, and write-protected files are usually the files that are easy to reinstall from a DVD or whatever. And then writability is only one half of the problem when you can have your personal data uploaded to your enemies. Or a worm/rootkit set up on your box. if a user has a single non-root account in which s/he does as many things as possible, then there's not many important things that you can only do as root. therefore rootkits have limited usefulness. it's still a VERY good idea to avoid rootkits, but gaining root isn't making the difference between stealing an addressbook or not, it isn't making the difference between rm -rf ~ or not, and it doesn't make the difference between running a spambot or not. Indeed. What's worse, i download scripts from unknown dudes and run them root on a daily basis (most of them are makefiles ;o) Well, I'm sure you trust your OS provider a lot more than random fictitious people sending you YourDocument.ZIP.EXE that are associated with application /usr/bin/wine... _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
