Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD Workshop - Paris - free
hep, i'm glad to see this announcement, for paris was desesperately desert for a while, i think i flew over that city 20 times without stopping also, as a personal friend of la generale and la miroiterie, and those of le placard festival, i'm glad to see there are some connections there. the sad news is that the miroiterie will get evicted, argg, the only place where i was playing in paris... saludos, sevy matohawk wrote: Hello pdlist, In french only Nand Labs - Hacking, Musique électroniques,... http://nandlabs.tumblr.com Nand est un évènement trimestriel et gratuit cherchant à créer des ponts entre le monde de l'expérimental, du hacking et celui de l'entertainment. Programme pour le week-end du 7 au 8 Novembre Voici le programme de NAND Labs #1 : SAMEDI ——- 15h-19h - Circuit Bending - animé par The Cheat Code du Label Dataglitch - Junkyard Challenge - animé par la Brigade Neurale - Atelier Pure Data - animé par Thomas Thiery de Multisessions - Atelier découverte Réverb à Ressorts - animé par Emmanuel Rebus de la Générale et Louis de L’ATLAN Découverte Demoscene - Participez à la création de la bande son d’un jeu vidéo. 19h30 - Improvisation Pure Data par Thomas Thiery de Multisessions + Modular Data Audio 20h30 Concerts : The Cheat Code, Digital Blind Citizen, Urk, Computer Truck DIMANCHE ——- 15h-19h - Circuit Bending - animé par The Cheat Code du Label Dataglitch - Junkyard Challenge - animé par la Brigade Neurale - Atelier découverte Réverb à Ressorts - animé par Emmanuel Rebus de la Générale et Louis de L’ATLAN Découverte Demoscene - Participez à la création de la bande son d’un jeu vidéo. ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] combining 2 or more cameras to output 1 stream in Linux
I don't see how you could make the result available as a v4l device without doing things in C, and even then I would not know how to make it work. Certainly not possible directly in PD without making your own v4l output external. I guess there is no such thing? (vloopback?) .b. jim wrote: Hi, Does anyone know the easiest way of combining 2 or more camera outputs into one stream? ie. how can I take two cameras using 320 x 240 and generate a wider image 640x240? Is this possible in PD? I would like the resulting stream to be available in v4l ie /dev/video0 + /dev/video1 = /dev/video2 . Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Jim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] combining 2 or more cameras to output 1 stream in Linux
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, jim wrote: Does anyone know the easiest way of combining 2 or more camera outputs into one stream? ie. how can I take two cameras using 320 x 240 and generate a wider image 640x240? Is this possible in PD? I would like the resulting stream to be available in v4l ie /dev/video0 + /dev/video1 = /dev/video2 . Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Jim If I have two images coming out from two [#in], I can make a wider image that contains both images side to side using [#join 1], but this is not the only way of putting images together to form a bigger image. for example, it could be about alternating slices of both images. In that case, I'd use a [#remap_image] after the [#join 1], to shuffle things around a bit. But you didn't say whether you want to do this with GEM, PDP or GF. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Research delay
Hello, I'm making a diploma work and need help from community like this to assure that my work is related to science or is a part of it, even if it (what I did) just a small improvement on the other hand. There is no information about it in my native language, so sometimes I get confused about what I'm looking for, because many things are interesting to me and the field is getting wider and more confusing. I have tried many delay effect patches and found one made by Maelstorm on pd-forum. I upgraded it to stereo, mounted into structure I needed and something I call an improvement. This delay processor does something what I think might be considered as humanized behavior. It takes audio of the musician (Saxophone) and creates an echo effect (tap function included), but output of the echo signal is controlled by the previous amount of volume (vu) of the input. You can set a feedback at the maximum amount, but if there is no input signal at that time from the instrument, than echo goes down (gradually or fast) as well. It sounds pleasant because there is another parameter that appeared during the construction process, an interpolation time or sensitivity how fast it follow the input ([line]) . So the amount of echo volume can't exceed the the amount of dry signal, what I take as an aesthetic value in a live performance (tested). Any pd user know how simple it is to make it using this software, but I couldn't find anybody did or mentioned about delay controlled by the signal witch has a human or instrument property (amplitude applied as control). I work with DAW's like Cubase and know that there is no delay like that. I want to ask if the community has an opinion about my idea, taking all possible aspects that comes to his mind. I think there is no better place as this to give such questions and use it's answers as vector to continue research. In the community I am now there are no students or lecturers that use pd and any other interesting things that it offer. So at least truth has to come out of my research. Thank you. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] combining 2 or more cameras to output 1 stream in Linux
Hi, Does anyone know the easiest way of combining 2 or more camera outputs into one stream? ie. how can I take two cameras using 320 x 240 and generate a wider image 640x240? Is this possible in PD? I would like the resulting stream to be available in v4l ie /dev/video0 + /dev/video1 = /dev/video2 . Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Jim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10 /gem 0.92.1 eeepc = no luck with v4l2
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: recordQT4L.cpp: In function ?lqt_file_type_t guess_qtformat(const char*)?: recordQT4L.cpp:96: error: invalid conversion from ?const char*? to ?char*? yah, this is dues to an overly pedantic compiler (or probably: invalid headers: the line the error is referring to is (here; but i might have a different version :-)) using the (const char*) argument to guess_qtformat() as input for strchr(). according to my man-pages, strchr() indeed takes (const char*) rather than (char*). if this is indeed the problem, just add a cast to (const char*) to the call of strchr(), and file a bug-report to ubuntu that they are shipping broken headers) hi, the problem is not the type of «filename», it's the type of «extension», because the error message is about casting const to non-const, and not the other way around. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10 /gem 0.92.1 eeepc = no luck with v4l2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 olsen wrote: > thanks hans for this indication > this is the correct flag to compile it with v4l2?! > --with-libv4l2-includes=/usr/lib/libv4l2.so hmm, the ..-includes flag is meant for adding _include_ directives to the compiler rather than libraries for the linker. try something like "--with-libv4l" and/or "--with-libv4l2" and you should be done if libv4l is properly installed. > the package builts but still i'm gettin > error: [pix_video]: could not find a backend for driver 'v4l2' > > i also tried a gem solo & make spits this error: > recordQT4L.cpp -o ../Objects/recordQT4L.o > recordQT4L.cpp: In function ‘lqt_file_type_t guess_qtformat(const char*)’: > recordQT4L.cpp:96: error: invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char*’ > make[1]: *** [recordQT4L.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended/Gem/src/Pixes' > make: *** [Pixes] Er yah, this is dues to an overly pedantic compiler (or probably: invalid headers: the line the error is referring to is (here; but i might have a different version :-)) using the (const char*) argument to guess_qtformat() as input for strchr(). according to my man-pages, strchr() indeed takes (const char*) rather than (char*). if this is indeed the problem, just add a cast to (const char*) to the call of strchr(), and file a bug-report to ubuntu that they are shipping broken headers) > > same with gem 0.92-1 > recordQT4L.cpp: In function ‘lqt_file_type_t guess_qtformat(const char*)’: > recordQT4L.cpp:96: error: invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char*’ > make[1]: *** [recordQT4L.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/olsen/pd/extra/0.92-1/Gem/src/Pixes' > make: *** [Pixes] Error 2 > > > with gem0.92svn i stuck at the configure: > ./configure: line 3005: syntax error near unexpected token `PIC,' > ./configure: line 3005: `GEM_ARG_ENABLE(PIC, PositionIndependentCode > (potentially slower))' you did run ./autogen.sh, did you? mfgasr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkryAu0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSKuACfXw1iDILzRRzQxQetWqZStlWR w8EAoPbWSa53nuUpP8iptq07N7qJQW/k =wCUA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
I am not sure if this is directed at me or not. I was asking if someone had compiled cooled~ that Yves wrote working on intel. I wrote a patch using it years ago and it was quite nice. Just recently when I was trying to show it to someone it gave an error about macho-o architecture. I checked out the very nice patch that was shared but noted that it did not have a random in it. I am sorry if I gave the impression that I want somebody to do it FOR me, but without that, nice as it is, I could not use it for my patch. I am not a super coder or compiler but certainly not afraid to write my own patches. Sorry if it came off as demanding or ungrateful pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of dmotd Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:44 AM To: hard off Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel hard off wrote: > ^ > the mail above is also an example of why i don't want to release my stuff so > much. > > all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people expect me > to > do all the work to add features to something which i gave them for free and > for > which they can modify as they like. > > i get the feeling that a lot of the pd people are connected with universities > and get some income from there. but i am just a single person who does not > have > any such affiliation, and i just do pd to amuse myself. it does get quite > annoying that everything i give to people, i get "feature requests" for. i am > giving you the whole patch. you can modify it for yourself. yup well said - except i can't say i have any such feeling for peoples individual financial containment. to say someone is employed by here or there, means nothing to their output and the ammount of free time they are giving to such and such a project, so please don't make such generalisations in the future. in terms of code then yeah, you are right, what you have distributed is a great resource for anyone to improve on, ecxcept.. if you don't release your work and give it a licesne then you are not really allowing your work to be further edited and redistrubuted.. (perhaps you are more worried that people will make better of your own work than you do yourself, but in that case who's the fool?) i understand your frustration with endless requests for variation and improvement, but that is purely hypothetical and you can choose to ignore all requests for evermore but i do agree with you that just like all the code in the repository a pd patch contains room for improvement and those changes only make the work stronger. btw, your intial work was for me quite inspiring. thanks for the code.. cheers, dmotd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
I was not requesting anything just commenting that for it to be kind of like cooled~ it would have a random function. -Original Message- From: Mathieu Bouchard [mailto:ma...@artengine.ca] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:27 AM To: hard off Cc: Pagano, Patrick; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, hard off wrote: > all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people > expect me to do all the work to add features to something which i gave > them for free and for which they can modify as they like. The better it is, the more people will wish more. If you see a feature request, chances are that it also means: thank you. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Call for Participation: Int. Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics, 2010
Ouaw!!! C'est la grande classe!!! Je passerai voir! A+ 2009/11/4 Markus Noisternig : > > [Apologies for possible multiple copies] > > --- > 2nd Int. Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics > May 6-7, Paris, France, 2010 > ambi10 - First Call for Participation > > http://ambisonics10.ircam.fr > > > Dear Colleagues, > > We would like to announce the 2nd International Symposium on Ambisonics and > Spherical Acoustics, which will be organized by IRCAM, together with > LIMSI-CNRS and France Telecom/Orange Labs. The Symposium will be held to > provide an intensive exchange between industrial and academic researchers > working in various research areas on spherical acoustics. > > The field of spatial sound reproduction is interdisciplinary by nature and > closely related to a number of computer science and engineering areas such > as acoustics, mathematics, signal processing, and perception. The symposium > focuses on discussing the various problems and solutions concerning the > capture, analysis, and re-synthesis of sound fields applying spherical > acoustics; for example higher-order Ambisonics (HOA), and spherical > microphone arrays. > > The symposium is going to be divided into oral presentations (keynotes and > submissions), poster sessions, and two demonstration sessions (artistic and > technical). This symposium will benefit from a hemi-spherical loudspeaker > array that will be installed for the duration of the symposium, which will > be held in the Espace de projection, the variable acoustics performance hall > of Ircam. > > Original contributions are encouraged in, but not limited to, the following > topics: > > * General considerations on spherical acoustics theory > * Ambisonic for sound scene reproduction and virtual acoustic environments > * Spherical microphone array systems and signal processing > * Capture and analysis of radiation patterns > * Spherical acoustic holography > * Synthesis of directional and focused sound sources > * Spherical loudspeaker array systems and signal processing > * Theoretical considerations on comparative subjective and objective studies > * Standardization, exchange, implementation and hardware issues > > > Submission > == > > Submissions will be judged based on extended abstracts (1000 words). > Procedures to submit papers, posters, and demo sessions are detailed at the > symposium website http://ambisonics10.ircam.fr. Final papers must be > camera-ready conforming to the format specified on the submission website. > > Several excellent papers will be selected for collective submission to Acta > Acustica united with Acustica. These papers will be expanded versions of the > presented works, and will go through the standard peer review process. > > The official language of the symposium is English. > > > Important dates > === > > * Extended abstract (1000 words) submission due: January 8th, 2010 > * Papers, Notification of acceptance due: February 19th, 2010 > * Camera-ready copy (full paper): March 12, 2010 > * Registration opens: March 22, 2010 > * Late Registration: April 12, 2010 > * Submission of Audio Material for Testing: April 19, 2010 > * Symposium Dates: May 6-7, 2010 > > > Symposium Chairs > > > General Co-Chairs > Markus Noisternig (IRCAM - UMR CNRS) > Brian FG Katz (LIMSI - CNRS) > Rozenn Nicol (France Telecom - Orange Labs) > > Technical Program Co-Chairs > Nicolas Misdariis (IRCAM - UMR CNRS) > Olivier Warusfel (IRCAM) > > Administration Chair > Sylvie Benoit (IRCAM) > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > pd-annou...@iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > -- David Doukhan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is there an object that emits bang when a subpatcher is restored?
grid object from http://ydegoyon.free.fr/software.html has this behaviour too.( if i remember well) 2009/10/31 Luke Iannini > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Hallo, > > Ivica Ico Bukvic hat gesagt: // Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 21:43 +0800, jurgen wrote: > >> > try [closebang] - read help file > >> > > >> > Jurgen > >> > >> Thanks for the info! However, this works when closing the entire patch > >> but not sub-patchers. Likewise, I would need something that bangs when > >> you open sub-patchers. I guess "restore" was the wrong terminology to > >> use here. > Hi Ivica > The [tot] object from toxy will emit a bang from its right outlet > whenever a subpatch is opened. I can't recall any ways to know when a > subpatch has been closed though ([active] from Cyclone will tell you > about its focused state). > > Best > Luke > > > > > Depending on your goals, the following may be a solution: You can open > and > > close not only by clicking on it, but also by sending the message "vis > 0/1" to > > the subpatch-receiver. Example: > > > > [pd mysub] > > > > [tgl] > > | > > [vis $1( > > | > > [s pd-mysub] > > > > If you only open or close a subpatch this way, you can follow any state > > changes by reading from [r pd-mysub]. > > > > Ciao > > -- > > Frank > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10 /gem 0.92.1 eeepc = no luck with v4l2
thanks hans for this indication this is the correct flag to compile it with v4l2?! --with-libv4l2-includes=/usr/lib/libv4l2.so the package builts but still i'm gettin error: [pix_video]: could not find a backend for driver 'v4l2' i also tried a gem solo & make spits this error: recordQT4L.cpp -o ../Objects/recordQT4L.o recordQT4L.cpp: In function ‘lqt_file_type_t guess_qtformat(const char*)’: recordQT4L.cpp:96: error: invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char*’ make[1]: *** [recordQT4L.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended/Gem/src/Pixes' make: *** [Pixes] Error 2 same with gem 0.92-1 recordQT4L.cpp: In function ‘lqt_file_type_t guess_qtformat(const char*)’: recordQT4L.cpp:96: error: invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char*’ make[1]: *** [recordQT4L.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/olsen/pd/extra/0.92-1/Gem/src/Pixes' make: *** [Pixes] Error 2 with gem0.92svn i stuck at the configure: ./configure: line 3005: syntax error near unexpected token `PIC,' ./configure: line 3005: `GEM_ARG_ENABLE(PIC, PositionIndependentCode (potentially slower))' Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You can see the gem ./configure flags used for Pd-extended in packages/Makefile. .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:48 PM, olsen wrote: hi thanks IOhannes for the help. i installed libv4l-dev & recompiled the package but i'm not getting the v4l2 support, as i do not know in the pd-extended automation how to do the gem configure with libv4l-support... greets ø IOhannes zmölnig wrote: hans w. koch wrote: it installed wonderfully on my eeepc901 and pd says gem 0.92.1 from oct 30, but: when trying out pix_video it starts with video driver 0: video4linux v4l now, when i send a message "driver v4l2" console gives: could not find a backend for driver "v4l2" the webcam is otherwise working fine (tested with cheese) anyone got an idea? simple: the version of Gem you are using has been compiled without libv4l support. whoever built the package has either not enabled libv4l-support (there is a new flag in Gem's configure called --without-ALL which disables everything so you have to manually re-enable whatever you want; this is meant for package-maintainers so they have better control about what features the package will have) or there was no libv4l-dev installed on the build machine. solutions: - build Gem yourself and make sure that you have all relevant packages installed (in your case, don't forget libv4l-dev) - ask the person who built your package to enable libv4l fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Information wants to be free.-Stewart Brand -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, hard off wrote: all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people expect me to do all the work to add features to something which i gave them for free and for which they can modify as they like. The better it is, the more people will wish more. If you see a feature request, chances are that it also means: thank you. Hear hear! I also see no reason to complain about feature requests. If you don't want to continue working on the project, that's fine, the code is out there. But if you are focused on the project still, then feature requests are often welcome input on the possibilities. I certainly would never tell anyone not to make a feature request, but I will tell anyone that it is just that, a request, and there is no guarantees that I personally would take on the implementation. That's the beauty of free software, then someone else can do it if they want to. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino - error compiling firmware and analog inputs problem
On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Ignacio Viano wrote: I'd already done it, but it didn't answer my questions. I tried redownloading Firmata-2.1beta7 but from firmata.org and it worked fine. I dont' know what could happen. Another question: It's ok if I modify line 38 of "StandardFirmata" and change the samplingInterval from 19ms to, for instance, 1ms or 0.5ms or it'll be useless or dangerous? Thanks for your work, it's quite helpful. Ignacio That 19ms timing is carefully tuned to best handle the FTDI USB-serial chips buffers. Making it lower, especially as low as 1ms, could cause huge jitter, like timing between packets ranging between 1 and 400ms instead of 10-30ms. So its only worth changing that value if you are going to do real loopback testing to see if you can get stable results. .hc ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 120
On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:20 PM, dmotd wrote: oh come now, i really commiserate with a bad work situation, but i have a hard time really sympathising with anyone taking on work from a large arts beurocracy. it is often the case that you leave your passion at the door - and i have found that there are many people with less a commitment to creation and creativity that fulfill these rolls far better than artists do. - sorry dan, its awful working somewhere you hate, but i'm sure there are many folks that could fill your shoes. to say that there is a future making a certain artwork is as vague as suggesting that an invention is commercially viable. if you *have* to make artwork, then you probably will, outside of economic imperative, and its more than likely you will pay for its existence and continued existence thereafter. but if you are prepared to forgo the creative challenges and use skills in ways that make you employable. then there are a number of ways to do so, and most likely there are many small creative organisations in your area that require someone with both creative and technical talent - and more often than not their application of your talents will challenge and push you into areas you are not currently aware. and besides if you have the right personality type and the essense of some talent than there's a good chance you will get all accesses to the inner sanctum of 'art'. just don't hold your breath. all i'd like really like to say on this topic is keep an open mind and strong focus on quality work, you may never support yourself financially but you will become a stronger artist for it. i don't usually make an effort to respond to social agenda - hopefully this is a rarity. You're totally right .. that's why I'm pretty much done at this point. I feel stupid for complaining about it really, but the question was asked and I felt like sharing my current situation. There is a definite difference between the artists and the engineers that work at these places. For most, it's just a job. I can't really see things like that and it's hard not to invest energy I probably don't need to. I too agree that you'll make better art by the skin of your teeth then in the comfy confines of academia / commercial work. It's definitely time to focus on quality work .. hell, I just want to be able to focus on my own work at all. Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: "Jo o Pais" To: "Adityo Pratomo" , PDlist > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:27:33 +0100 Subject: Re: [PD] life as a new media artist Hi, I suggest you keep your day job maintaing networks. it's much more well paid than art jobs, which means that you can work less and have more time for you. plus, the frustration of not being involved in art gives you energy to sit down and work on your things when you finally manage it. you don't waste those artistic thoughts somewhere else, like producing a concert or something. Unless you've already good well-known in the field, and are able to get a "regular" amount of paid comissions/projects done. I an second that statement. I'm working for Ars Electronica right now and I've basically discovered that working in the field blows. My energy has been wasted on boring commercial-oriented stuff and I don't have any energy for my own work ... I wish I was delivering chinese food again. Plus the network admin job probably pays far better then mine. *sigh* I make a living mainly as an engraver for scores (classical/ modern/film music). it's not very well paid, but I can maintain my lifestyle for the time being (single guy sharing a flat with no family), and now and then buy equipment. although in the future I'll have a lousy pension for sure. Jo o Pais Hmm, I see. Looks like we have to have a day job right? Just curious, is there anyone have a day job in a field that has no relation with art? Like for example, I myself, I work as a network consultant. And then use my spare time to do some art stuff. -- Dan Wilcox danomatika www.robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] life as a new media artist
The question reminds me of : Letters to a Young Artist, a collection of essays modeled after Goethe's letter (another good read). It has some insights from people like Adrian Piper, William Pole L. and the Guerilla Girls. The variables are alike between the artistic discipline (time, revenues, integrity) but there are a couple of important variations for media art. Nearly 80% of all art purchases are paintings so making a living may mean teaching or finding other employement within the field. Another important distinction is gender. The media arts field, especially the more technical aspects of it, is dominated by males. It can lead to a culture shock sometimes but I don't know whether gender has a positive or negative effect on gaining most of your revenues in the field. Where you find your training is also a determinant and the answer to the question of survival as a media artist will depend on where you want to be based. Support for culture, public or private, varies so much from one state to another. Be mindful of the tools, PD is one of the tools that will shape your practice the least. I like Natalie Jeremijenko's take on technology (not her exact words) : "artist's are good at making dumb things out of expensive technology and making smart things out of obsolete tech". My advice would be to just work. Don't spend too much time networking and worrying about a career, if the work is not there, nothing will happen. Devote all your energies to it and if the sleep deprivation (and bills) catch up to you and the motivation isn't there any longer, then you can take all that you will have learned and find another path. It should be easier than surviving as a media artist. I don't want to sound dire, I feel priviledged to be able to keep making art and it's amazing to be able to teach it. What I mean to say is that if you need to be an artist then you will find a way to support your practice. http://www.artonpaper.com/LTYA/ Good luck, Alexandre Adityo Pratomo a écrit : hahaha, gotta agree with this. I couldn't even stand sleeping for 4 hours a day for a week. because on the next week, i'll be sleeping 10 hours a day, hahaha... anyway, thank you for sharing your stories everybody :) On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Derek Holzer wrote: Short term results = fantastic! Long term results = detrimental to one's health... Just ask Jack Kerouac. Jaime Oliver wrote: make art with that time. Or you could try giving up sleeping. In the end, the sleeping thing... doesn't work. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 140: "Reverse" ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, hard off wrote: all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people expect me to do all the work to add features to something which i gave them for free and for which they can modify as they like. The better it is, the more people will wish more. If you see a feature request, chances are that it also means: thank you. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
hard off wrote: > ^ > the mail above is also an example of why i don't want to release my stuff so > much. > > all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people expect me > to > do all the work to add features to something which i gave them for free and > for > which they can modify as they like. > > i get the feeling that a lot of the pd people are connected with universities > and get some income from there. but i am just a single person who does not > have > any such affiliation, and i just do pd to amuse myself. it does get quite > annoying that everything i give to people, i get "feature requests" for. i am > giving you the whole patch. you can modify it for yourself. yup well said - except i can't say i have any such feeling for peoples individual financial containment. to say someone is employed by here or there, means nothing to their output and the ammount of free time they are giving to such and such a project, so please don't make such generalisations in the future. in terms of code then yeah, you are right, what you have distributed is a great resource for anyone to improve on, ecxcept.. if you don't release your work and give it a licesne then you are not really allowing your work to be further edited and redistrubuted.. (perhaps you are more worried that people will make better of your own work than you do yourself, but in that case who's the fool?) i understand your frustration with endless requests for variation and improvement, but that is purely hypothetical and you can choose to ignore all requests for evermore but i do agree with you that just like all the code in the repository a pd patch contains room for improvement and those changes only make the work stronger. btw, your intial work was for me quite inspiring. thanks for the code.. cheers, dmotd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 120
oh come now, i really commiserate with a bad work situation, but i have a hard time really sympathising with anyone taking on work from a large arts beurocracy. it is often the case that you leave your passion at the door - and i have found that there are many people with less a commitment to creation and creativity that fulfill these rolls far better than artists do. - sorry dan, its awful working somewhere you hate, but i'm sure there are many folks that could fill your shoes. to say that there is a future making a certain artwork is as vague as suggesting that an invention is commercially viable. if you *have* to make artwork, then you probably will, outside of economic imperative, and its more than likely you will pay for its existence and continued existence thereafter. but if you are prepared to forgo the creative challenges and use skills in ways that make you employable. then there are a number of ways to do so, and most likely there are many small creative organisations in your area that require someone with both creative and technical talent - and more often than not their application of your talents will challenge and push you into areas you are not currently aware. and besides if you have the right personality type and the essense of some talent than there's a good chance you will get all accesses to the inner sanctum of 'art'. just don't hold your breath. all i'd like really like to say on this topic is keep an open mind and strong focus on quality work, you may never support yourself financially but you will become a stronger artist for it. i don't usually make an effort to respond to social agenda - hopefully this is a rarity. Daniel Wilcox wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Jo o Pais" > To: "Adityo Pratomo" , PDlist > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:27:33 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PD] life as a new media artist > Hi, > > I suggest you keep your day job maintaing networks. it's much more well > paid than art jobs, which means that you can work less and have more time > for you. plus, the frustration of not being involved in art gives you > energy to sit down and work on your things when you finally manage it. you > don't waste those artistic thoughts somewhere else, like producing a > concert or something. > Unless you've already good well-known in the field, and are able to get a > "regular" amount of paid comissions/projects done. > > > > I an second that statement. > > I'm working for Ars Electronica right now and I've basically discovered that > working in the field blows. My energy has been wasted on boring > commercial-oriented stuff and I don't have any energy for my own work ... I > wish I was delivering chinese food again. Plus the network admin job probably > pays far better then mine. *sigh* > > > > I make a living mainly as an engraver for scores (classical/modern/film > music). it's not very well paid, but I can maintain my lifestyle for the > time being (single guy sharing a flat with no family), and now and then > buy > equipment. although in the future I'll have a lousy pension for sure. > > Jo o Pais > > > Hmm, I see. Looks like we have to have a day job right? Just curious, > is > there anyone have a day job in a field that has no relation with art? > Like > for example, I myself, I work as a network consultant. And then use my > spare > time to do some art stuff. > > > > -- > Dan Wilcox > danomatika > www.robotcowboy.com > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino - error compiling firmware and analog inputs problem
Read the included README.txt for installation instructions. .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Ignacio Viano wrote: Hello. I've just got an Seeeduino ATmega168 (100% compatible with Arduino Duemilanove). [OS X Leopard, PD-extended 0.41.4]. When trying to compile the firmware "StandardFirmata" (downloaded from http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino) I get this error: In function 'void setPinModeCallback(byte, int)': error: 'FIRST_SERVO_PIN' was not declared in this scope In function 'void analogWriteCallback(byte, int)': In function 'void sysexCallback(byte, byte, byte*)': In function 'boolean isServoSupportedPin(byte)': After that I compiled "SimpleAnalogFirmata" succesfuly but, when testing the comunication with PD I noticed that the Analog-In-Values were being updated at a very small rate (2 or 3 times a second). This prints PD when I start comunication with Arduino: [comport] closed /dev/tty.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync get_baud_ratebits: 57600.00 set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 [comport] opened serial line device 2 (/dev/tty.usbserial-A7004HQU) The baudrate seems to be fine. My questions are: ¿Which firmware should I use if I want all analog (pots) and digital (buttons) inputs? ¿Any ideas about the error I get trying to compile "StandardFirmata"? ¿Any ideas about that extremely small data rate? Greets and thanks Ignacio ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] xbox controller windows
[hidin] for windows in Pd-extended. Xbox controllers are HID devices, but Microsoft made it difficiult. You generally need xbox drivers to use the controller.s .hc On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:24 AM, marius schebella wrote: hi, how do I get xbox controller data into pd on windows? is there a win external or hid equivalent? thanks a lot! marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
^ the mail above is also an example of why i don't want to release my stuff so much. all the patch is there, i am keeping no secrets. but still people expect me to do all the work to add features to something which i gave them for free and for which they can modify as they like. i get the feeling that a lot of the pd people are connected with universities and get some income from there. but i am just a single person who does not have any such affiliation, and i just do pd to amuse myself. it does get quite annoying that everything i give to people, i get "feature requests" for. i am giving you the whole patch. you can modify it for yourself. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Call for Participation: Int. Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics, 2010
[Apologies for possible multiple copies] --- 2nd Int. Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics May 6-7, Paris, France, 2010 ambi10 - First Call for Participation http://ambisonics10.ircam.fr Dear Colleagues, We would like to announce the 2nd International Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics, which will be organized by IRCAM, together with LIMSI-CNRS and France Telecom/Orange Labs. The Symposium will be held to provide an intensive exchange between industrial and academic researchers working in various research areas on spherical acoustics. The field of spatial sound reproduction is interdisciplinary by nature and closely related to a number of computer science and engineering areas such as acoustics, mathematics, signal processing, and perception. The symposium focuses on discussing the various problems and solutions concerning the capture, analysis, and re-synthesis of sound fields applying spherical acoustics; for example higher-order Ambisonics (HOA), and spherical microphone arrays. The symposium is going to be divided into oral presentations (keynotes and submissions), poster sessions, and two demonstration sessions (artistic and technical). This symposium will benefit from a hemi- spherical loudspeaker array that will be installed for the duration of the symposium, which will be held in the Espace de projection, the variable acoustics performance hall of Ircam. Original contributions are encouraged in, but not limited to, the following topics: * General considerations on spherical acoustics theory * Ambisonic for sound scene reproduction and virtual acoustic environments * Spherical microphone array systems and signal processing * Capture and analysis of radiation patterns * Spherical acoustic holography * Synthesis of directional and focused sound sources * Spherical loudspeaker array systems and signal processing * Theoretical considerations on comparative subjective and objective studies * Standardization, exchange, implementation and hardware issues Submission == Submissions will be judged based on extended abstracts (1000 words). Procedures to submit papers, posters, and demo sessions are detailed at the symposium website http://ambisonics10.ircam.fr. Final papers must be camera-ready conforming to the format specified on the submission website. Several excellent papers will be selected for collective submission to Acta Acustica united with Acustica. These papers will be expanded versions of the presented works, and will go through the standard peer review process. The official language of the symposium is English. Important dates === * Extended abstract (1000 words) submission due: January 8th, 2010 * Papers, Notification of acceptance due: February 19th, 2010 * Camera-ready copy (full paper): March 12, 2010 * Registration opens: March 22, 2010 * Late Registration: April 12, 2010 * Submission of Audio Material for Testing: April 19, 2010 * Symposium Dates: May 6-7, 2010 Symposium Chairs General Co-Chairs Markus Noisternig (IRCAM - UMR CNRS) Brian FG Katz (LIMSI - CNRS) Rozenn Nicol (France Telecom - Orange Labs) Technical Program Co-Chairs Nicolas Misdariis (IRCAM - UMR CNRS) Olivier Warusfel (IRCAM) Administration Chair Sylvie Benoit (IRCAM) ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
if you could add a random slicer into it we could have a replacement for cooled almost From: hard off [hard@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:51 AM To: Hans-Christoph Steiner Cc: Pagano, Patrick; pd-list Subject: Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel honestly, one day i will figure out this 'internet' thing and upload all my stuff to whatever svn or cvs or whatever it is that the pd-extended all goes into. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cooled~ for OSX intel
honestly, one day i will figure out this 'internet' thing and upload all my stuff to whatever svn or cvs or whatever it is that the pd-extended all goes into. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 120
I suggest you keep your day job maintaing networks. it's much more well paid than art jobs, which means that you can work less and have more time for you. plus, the frustration of not being involved in art gives you energy to sit down and work on your things when you finally manage it. you don't waste those artistic thoughts somewhere else, like producing a concert or something. Unless you've already good well-known in the field, and are able to get a "regular" amount of paid comissions/projects done. I an second that statement. I'm working for Ars Electronica right now and I've basically discovered that working in the field blows. My energy has been wasted on boring commercial-oriented stuff and I don't have any energy for my own work ... I wish I was delivering chinese food again. Plus the network admin job probably pays far better then mine. *sigh* afaik, ars electronica isn't exactly the best-paying place in the world. but look on the good side, you might learn enough experience when you decide not to renew your contract, like many do. just leave as soon as you can. [did we met in July in Linz? I'm a friend of Enrique Tomás, I was there to work with him on a performance of our trio.] João Pais ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
Hi Hans, I'm curious about the iPhone port: What's the main broad goal of this effort? (I mean other than the obvious of having Pd working on iPhone, which will be great!). Is the plan to have Pd for iPhone as an open-source app for the community? - i.e. for jailbroken itouch things? Will the audio i/o code be open source (is that even possible with Apple), and if so, which license? Or is this a private experiment? Can you elaborate, or did I miss something on the list? cheers Nick On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes of course. RIght now you can do everything in a Pd patch in both Android and iPhoneOS except input/output audio or MIDI. So netsend/netreceive work, for example. You could build a streaming externals to stream audio in/out. We'll get the audio stuff ironed out soon, there is some code in the works. .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:53 PM, João Pais wrote: how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all these platforms? Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the works. Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions. .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote: SO this is certainly interesting When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does that mean? THe pd gui works? I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with the android phone. On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: THere are a number of developments in this regard: - Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but that's in the works. - Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android. - you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc. rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform is a lot more open. .hc On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote: same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius. 2009/10/29 Chris McCormick : On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +, Si Mills wrote: to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon, I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.-David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 120
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "João Pais" > To: "Adityo Pratomo" , PDlist > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:27:33 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PD] life as a new media artist > Hi, > > I suggest you keep your day job maintaing networks. it's much more well > paid than art jobs, which means that you can work less and have more time > for you. plus, the frustration of not being involved in art gives you > energy to sit down and work on your things when you finally manage it. you > don't waste those artistic thoughts somewhere else, like producing a concert > or something. > Unless you've already good well-known in the field, and are able to get a > "regular" amount of paid comissions/projects done. > I an second that statement. I'm working for Ars Electronica right now and I've basically discovered that working in the field blows. My energy has been wasted on boring commercial-oriented stuff and I don't have any energy for my own work ... I wish I was delivering chinese food again. Plus the network admin job probably pays far better then mine. *sigh* > I make a living mainly as an engraver for scores (classical/modern/film > music). it's not very well paid, but I can maintain my lifestyle for the > time being (single guy sharing a flat with no family), and now and then buy > equipment. although in the future I'll have a lousy pension for sure. > > João Pais > > Hmm, I see. Looks like we have to have a day job right? Just curious, is >> there anyone have a day job in a field that has no relation with art? Like >> for example, I myself, I work as a network consultant. And then use my >> spare >> time to do some art stuff. >> > -- Dan Wilcox danomatika www.robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] xbox controller windows
hi, how do I get xbox controller data into pd on windows? is there a win external or hid equivalent? thanks a lot! marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] PD Workshop - Paris - free
Hello pdlist, In french only Nand Labs - Hacking, Musique électroniques,... http://nandlabs.tumblr.com Nand est un évènement trimestriel et gratuit cherchant à créer des ponts entre le monde de l'expérimental, du hacking et celui de l'entertainment. Programme pour le week-end du 7 au 8 Novembre Voici le programme de NAND Labs #1 : SAMEDI ——- 15h-19h - Circuit Bending - animé par The Cheat Code du Label Dataglitch - Junkyard Challenge - animé par la Brigade Neurale - Atelier Pure Data - animé par Thomas Thiery de Multisessions - Atelier découverte Réverb à Ressorts - animé par Emmanuel Rebus de la Générale et Louis de L’ATLAN Découverte Demoscene - Participez à la création de la bande son d’un jeu vidéo. 19h30 - Improvisation Pure Data par Thomas Thiery de Multisessions + Modular Data Audio 20h30 Concerts : The Cheat Code, Digital Blind Citizen, Urk, Computer Truck DIMANCHE ——- 15h-19h - Circuit Bending - animé par The Cheat Code du Label Dataglitch - Junkyard Challenge - animé par la Brigade Neurale - Atelier découverte Réverb à Ressorts - animé par Emmanuel Rebus de la Générale et Louis de L’ATLAN Découverte Demoscene - Participez à la création de la bande son d’un jeu vidéo. ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
> iphone > Android > Palm > Windows Mobile N900 :) ciao, Marco -- ,= ,-_-. =. --- + ((_/)o o(\_)) jabber:kpa...@jabber.linux.it/msn:kpa...@muppetslab.org | `-'(. .)`-#muppets...@irc.freenode.net | \_/ Music is interface | ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Install Pd on Fedora 10 x86_64
Konstantinos Benardis wrote: > Hi list > > I am trying to install Pd on Fedora 10 x86_64. There is no binary package > for this (in CCRMA repository neither). I tried to build from source but > there is no configure file in src directory. Should i "make" without > configure or would be better to try to install the i386 binary. > if you install a source release(!) of Pd (as distributed by miller puckette), then you should have a "src/configure" file. if you try to compile from svn, then there is no configure-file as this file is itself generated from source. just run "autoconf" (in src/) in order to create the "configure" script. fmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
Hallo! João Pais schrieb: how about control? I was hoping of in the future perform in the middle of the room with a htc magic (or something) controlling my patch on the laptop in the stage. is osc already available in all these platforms? Yeah, there is such an application (with osc) on the android phone ... LG Georg Everything works but audio input and output, but that's in the works. Externals work too, if you use a jailbroken device, you don't need to heed Apple's lame restrictions. .hc On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Si Mills wrote: SO this is certainly interesting When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does that mean? THe pd gui works? I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with the android phone. On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: THere are a number of developments in this regard: - Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but that's in the works. - Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android. - you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc. rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform is a lot more open. .hc On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote: same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius. 2009/10/29 Chris McCormick : On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +, Si Mills wrote: to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon, I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
