[PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 5th Jan
Hello, next tuesday, 5th January, will be the second meeting of Pure Data users in Berlin. For more information, look up http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group. Doors are open from 20h-20h15. After that they'll be probably closed, and you will have to call someone at NK to get in. To get a telephone number to call or confirm assistance you can write to info_at_minitronics.net. We would apreciate if you would send us a small mail to info_at_minitronics.net with your name, Pd experience and interests, so that we know how many people might be coming. Or put your name in the pd-berlin wiki page. We would like to thank the support and willingness of NK in the organization of these events. João Pais ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] using the same shader in multiple places
Hi, Is it legal to load the same shader (i.e. the same .vert and .frag files) multiple times? I.e. have an abstraction with a [glsl_vertex], a [glsl_fragment] and a [glsl_program], and multiple instances of this abstraction? I ask this because I did this and pd crashes as soon as I open the gemwin. I had some trivial errors in the shader files before, and I got the compiler error messages without crashes, but then I corrected the error and now it crashes. Obviously there may be a lot of other reasons for the crash but I have to guess. Is there another way to use the same shader in multiple places? For example, I see [glsl_program] outputs an id in its right outlet: can I perhaps use that ID to use that shader elsewhere? If so, how? In this case, would each instance of the shader have its own value of uniform parameters? By the way, I should probably ask a more basic question: is it legal to have more than one [glsl_program]s (meaning a [glsl_vertex] a [glsl_fragment] and a [glsl_program]), no matter whether with the same or different shader programs, under the same [gemhead], provided that they are in different subchains with [separator]s? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] using the same shader in multiple places
Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: I ask this because I did this and pd crashes as soon as I open the gemwin. I had some trivial errors in the shader files before, and I got the compiler error messages without crashes, but then I corrected the error and now it crashes. Well for the moment, by testing the shader in a simple test patch, I've found out more trivial errors in the shader code, in particular calling an undefined function. Shouldn't crash anyway... -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling pd vanilla problems on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
I see the -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk in the gcc call, which is hardcoded into the configure.in/configure scripts. In order to even get things to build at all in OS X 10.6, I had to take all that stuff out, so that it could find the headers in the /usr/include. I dunno why this was ever there, must have made things work in older versions of OS X, but not now. I think it is important to get vanilla compiling, even though the gui-rewrite branch takes care of these issues. It will probably be a while before 0.43, anyway. - rich On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, sorry for the lack of involvement so far! I'm willing to benchmark any tests needed. something very weird has happened... I compiled it without any evident problems and have used it fine, for a while. The config log for that build is attached as config.log However, I just downloaded it again and tried to compile and got a bunch of errors. I am attaching the output to the console as console-output.txt and the config log for that build as config-error.log. Is it possible there has been a change in pd-0.42-5? J On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote: I listed some notes about the problems I was having with the gui rewrite, most problematic is that you can't navigate in text with arrows. Should I file bug reports or is the list fine for this? pd-gui-rewrite compiled with tcl/tk 8.5, but vanilla/extended ships with 8.4. I'd like to compile them with 8.5 to see if that is adding the functionality. both versions of libPdTCL.dylib, compiled and from the dmg, are i386 32-bit. I don't know why the compiled version complains that this is the wrong architecture while the dmg version doesn't. Has anyone compiled a working version of pd vanilla in Snow Leopard? Jaime? On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Rich E wrote: Hans, The gui rewrite version works fine on my computer, but I need Pd-Vanilla/Extented for testing purposes. Not to mention, there are various small bugs in the gui rewrite branch that make it difficult to use when I'm making music. Please report them, so that I can fix them. Now's the time for the final push on the new GUI code since Miller is working on tying it all into the 0.43 release. The problem is also that the wacom external I am working with * only * works with the pd-gui-rewrite branch, but I don't know if that is because I compiled it from source (with maybe a different version of Tcl/Tk) or because you re-wrote the Tk code to use Apple Events in a different way. I didn't really do anything explicit with Apple Events, but it is a ground-up rewrite. Depending on where you got your build, it could be using Tcl/Tk 8.5. You can check that with the [hcs/tcl_version] object. About 64-bit, I've decided to just compile all my music software as 32-bit for now, it seems to be too early for most apps still to run everything as 64-bit (and no real gain any way). Most everything pre-compiled (ex. pd-extended) is 32-bit, anyway. So, that said, anyone have any suggestions on what is going wrong with my libPdTcl.dylib? The version included with Pd-extended is also i386, yet tk doesn't complain about it when running Wish... Run file libPdTcl.dylib to see what kind of binary it is. That whole thing is such a kludge... I shudder to even think about it. Plus its totally gone in 0.43. As for 64-bit, that's something we do need to get fixed. .hc Rich On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Try the 0.43/pd-gui-rewrite branch, with the new autotools build system. I think it should build properly on Mac OS X 64-bit: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite If not, report problems here and I try to fix them and commit them. .hc On Dec 27, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Rich E wrote: On I go. Loading /usr/bin/wish turns out to be 64bit, but running pd from Miller's pre-built app (or Pd-extended pre-built) creates a 32bit version. When compiling from source, I am making libPdTcl.dylib 32bit, but wish's 'load' function thinks this is the wrong architecture - I think then that wish needs to be run as 32bit, but I can't figure out how to do this or how the pre-built app is doing this. I can't find any doc's on that load function, either (line 67 of pd.tk). I'm just shooting in the dark here, trying to conjure up some advice. I need to get pd compiled from source to work on an external. Rich On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote: I hope someone can help me fix the last problem on this list, it is blocking me (libPdTcl.dylib wrong architecture). I can't see why it is detected as the wrong architecture, everything I check says it is i386
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
ah yeah thanks hans... i didn't know that example patch was included. thanks for the help! my patch attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
ooops.. now attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: ah yeah thanks hans... i didn't know that example patch was included. thanks for the help! my patch attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ midisport2x2.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
