Re: [PD] Problem with Snow Leopard and Flext

2010-01-14 Thread Cécile Picard-Limpens

Dear List,

I'm encountering the same problem as Miguel.. (message on /Sat Dec 12/). 
I'm using Apple Snow Leopard (10.6.2) on my macbook (2.26 GHz Intel Core 
Duo).
As anyone succeeded building and launching flext objects using OSX Snow 
Leopard?

It compiles but crashes at launching without error messages...

Does it mean that the Pd-extended version compiled with x86_64 is needed?

Thanks for your help!

Cecile.


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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

2010-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 There has been lots of work on the 0.43 Pd GUI Rewrite, and it should be
 quite useable now.  Please try it for any daily patching and report any
 issues that you might have so that they can be fixed.  There is a bunch
 of fun new stuff possible with plugins, like you can bind to any key,
 for example make O give you an [osc~] and P give you a [pack] while
 Ctrl-O and Ctrl-P keep their original meanings.


sounds cool.
but how does this help me with my ordinary patching problems?

e.g.
Ctrl-1 to create a print object
Ctrl-2 to create a numberbox
try to connect the numberbox with the print object...the circle
indicating a found outlet appears, but i cannot draw a chord; instead
the number changes.
if i try to do this with a msgbox, the msgbox is clicked.

i tried to unwind all recent changes (until beginning of the year), but
still no luck.
i removed all the startup plugins, but still no luck.

tried with 8.4 and 8.5 on debian squeeze/sid.


ah ja: and i create an object (e.g. [f]) i cannot click besides the
object anymore to instantiate it; the only way to do that is to either
leave edit-mode (Ctrl-E) or create another thing (e.g. Ctrl-1)

i cannot select anything anymore.

what happened?

fmgasdr
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[PD] Pd-extended, Ubuntu Studio 9.10?

2010-01-14 Thread J. Simon van der Walt
I'm on a slow learning curve here, a mac user experimenting with Linux on an
MSI Wind U100 clone (Advent 4211-c). So far I have Ubuntu Studio 9.10 up and
running. Pd is included, but it seems to be a vanilla version, and I really
need various libraries.

It seems that there is currently no package for Pd-extended in the ubuntu
repositories. So, I uninstalled pd (vanilla) in Synaptic Package Manager,
and downloaded and installed this instead;

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.42.5-extended-ubuntu-k
armic-i386.deb

It basically seems to launch and work. However, by default, it seems to
launch with no libraries. When I add libraries to, whatever you call it,
that page where you add libraries, only Gem seems successful, otherwise I
get errors, for instance;

cyclone: can't load library

The files would all seem to be there in usr/lib/pd. What now?

tia

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[PD] sys_gui outlet

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice

 [console show--[sys_gui] opens tcl console, but how can we get the console
output in a patch? the outlet of [sys_gui] could do this, no? Or maybe it's
possible to get it with another object? (not [tot] if possible)

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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

2010-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
András Murányi wrote:
 
 PS i'd be happy to give you ssh to my 64-bit box if that helps.
 Then, I'm very interested in the PPA. I have no idea how to put together a
 source package, i also don't know makefiles (yet). Do you think I could
 manage...?

hmm, i just tried to build pd-gui-rewrite on my 64bit box and it built
out-of-the box and runs out of the box.

fm,gasdr
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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

2010-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 
 what happened?


doesn't happen with my 64bit build; so it seems to be a problem with my
setup...

fg,asdr
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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

2010-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 András Murányi wrote:
 PS i'd be happy to give you ssh to my 64-bit box if that helps.
 Then, I'm very interested in the PPA. I have no idea how to put together a
 source package, i also don't know makefiles (yet). Do you think I could
 manage...?
 
 hmm, i just tried to build pd-gui-rewrite on my 64bit box and it built
 out-of-the box and runs out of the box.
 

and while some commit yesterday broke library loading yet another time,
it's now fixed again.

fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:


I wrote an external called [sys_gui] that allows you to send Tcl to the
GUI from Pd. While you can't (yet?) use {} you can use  and [] and
that gets you a long way.


GREAT! I think that solves all my problems :)

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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:

Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:


I wrote an external called [sys_gui] that allows you to send Tcl to the
GUI from Pd. While you can't (yet?) use {} you can use  and [] and
that gets you a long way.


GREAT! I think that solves all my problems :)



Oh no Almost!

If I create a directory and then, _immediately_ after (in the same 
message tree, after 0 logical time), I send a [write ...( message to a 
[textfile] to save a file into the newly created folder, it fails 
because (I guess) the creation of the folder is non-blocking (so to 
say) that is it takes a small time to create it but the action is 
considered finished (and the following branch of messages is generated) 
as soon as the command has been sent.


Any suggestions on how to check for the existence of a directory?

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[PD] [dirpanel] inconsistency in Windows?

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

If you bang a [dirpanel] and browse for a directory in Windows, if you 
select any folder that is not the root of a disk, you get:


symbol X:/path/to/the/folder

NOT ending with slash.

However, if you select the root of drive X, you get:

X:/

WITH the ending slash.

Isn't this inconsistent? Shouldn't the output either always or never 
include the ending slash? (I don't know which of the two would be better).


This means for example that you can't safely use

[symbol $1/mysubfolder(

and expect it to work in all cases. Just an example.


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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi

removed all those who receive this mail anyhow, because they are
subscribed to the list.

Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
 Matteo Sisti Sette escribió:
 Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:

 I wrote an external called [sys_gui] that allows you to send Tcl to the
 GUI from Pd. While you can't (yet?) use {} you can use  and [] and
 that gets you a long way.

 GREAT! I think that solves all my problems :)

 
 Oh no Almost!
 
 If I create a directory and then, _immediately_ after (in the same
 message tree, after 0 logical time), I send a [write ...( message to a
 [textfile] to save a file into the newly created folder, it fails
 because (I guess) the creation of the folder is non-blocking (so to
 say) that is it takes a small time to create it but the action is
 considered finished (and the following branch of messages is generated)
 as soon as the command has been sent.

it's not about non-blocking.
but [sys_gui] sends a request over the internet to your local computer
to create a directory.
since the internet can take some time, so will your folder creation.
even though the connection to your local computer should be pretty fast,
it is still asynchronous to your main patch.

 
 Any suggestions on how to check for the existence of a directory?

well, write a textfile into the folder with some content and try to
retrieve the content. if it succeeded, then the folder is there.
(and writeable; in order to don't create any locks because you try to
wirte to a non-writeable folder, make sure to do some timeout)

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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice
Selon Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com:

 Any suggestions on how to check for the existence of a directory?


 it would be childish if [sys_gui] or another object would retrieve tcl console
output, then [puts [glob -type d My-Dir] would do the trick, or just a bang
when tcl command is done.

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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
 Selon Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com:
 
 Any suggestions on how to check for the existence of a directory?

 
  it would be childish if [sys_gui] or another object would retrieve tcl 
 console
 output, then [puts [glob -type d My-Dir] would do the trick, or just a bang
 when tcl command is done.

as said before: we are dealing with asyncrhonous messages over the
internet here.
i don't think there is a way to do what you request (as option b)
generically.
otoh, you can do option a with [sys_gui]
something like pd_send myrecname [ glob -type d My-Dir ] should send
the output of the glob command back to Pd where it will magically appear
on the myrecname receiver.

sidenote: pd_send is what i remember; could be called slightly
differently or take more args; for details see pd.tk


mdyr
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Re: [PD] [dirpanel] inconsistency in Windows?

2010-01-14 Thread martin.peach


Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
 If you bang a [dirpanel] and browse for a directory in Windows, if you 
 select any folder that is not the root of a disk, you get:
 
 symbol X:/path/to/the/folder
 
 NOT ending with slash.
 
 However, if you select the root of drive X, you get:
 
 X:/
 
 WITH the ending slash.
 
 Isn't this inconsistent? Shouldn't the output either always or never 
 include the ending slash? (I don't know which of the two would be better).
 

The pathname of the root directory is / so it is actually a beginning slash, 
so it's consistent.

Martin

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[PD] Glitchy problems with gem...

2010-01-14 Thread James Dunn

Hi list,

I had a lot of trouble getting [text3d] to work in fullscreen. It sort 
of works now - the main issue is that the fonts look terrible. I have a 
ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 M10 RV350 card in my laptop which no longer has 
linux support by ATI so I'm using the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver in 
Karmic. I think the font problem is to do with FSAA and I don't think I 
can enable it with this driver. Also I think I read somewhere that FSAA 
is only available in gem for nvidia cards on linux. Is this correct?


What's more, with desktop effects enabled gem has a lot of weirdness! 
The window border disappears, the lower half of the window displays a 
garbled image, and it corrupts the rest of my desktop! So I disabled 
desktop effects and am currently now having trouble with multiple 
gemheads - please see the attached patch. If all 3 gemheads are enabled, 
the first two seem to switch places very quickly (many times a second) - 
they should be static and scroll with the key presses. However I've just 
tested this on my desktop box running karmic with an nvidia card and it 
seems fine!


If anyone can help with any of these issues, please let me know - it's 
very frustrating!


thanks,

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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice


Selon IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at:

 as said before: we are dealing with asyncrhonous messages over the
 internet here.

yes just seen this...


 something like pd_send myrecname [ glob -type d My-Dir ] should send
 the output of the glob command back to Pd where it will magically appear
 on the myrecname receiver.


pretty magics!


[pdsend tcl-rcv [file isdirectory My-Dir--[sys_gui]

[r tcl-rcv]--[sel 1]--[write My-Dir/My-File.txt cr--[textfile]

this trick could reside in an abs, I've attached something like that.

so now all this stuff is possible inside PureData:

http://tmml.sourceforge.net/doc/tcl/

unless the commands that need {}
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 12;
#X obj 123 38 inlet;
#X obj 121 252 outlet;
#X obj 121 223 r \$0-sys_gui-r;
#X obj 123 62 list prepend pdsend \$0-sys_gui-r [;
#X obj 123 86 list append ];
#X obj 123 110 list trim;
#X obj 123 134 sys_gui;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 5 0;
#X connect 5 0 6 0;
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[PD] [bonk~] 1.3 error useage [-ntps]...

2010-01-14 Thread Gintaras Lau.
Hello,

I'm a pd Vanilla user and since I upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 [bonk~] unusually
respond to parameter change (tresh.,mask etc.). It worked  on 9.04.

On strtup pd outputs:

bonk version 1.3
error: usage is: bonk [-npts #] [-hop #] [-nsigs #] [-nfilters #]
[-halftones #]
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.
... [-overlap #] [-firstbin #] [-spew #]
error: usage is: bonk [-npts #] [-hop #] [-nsigs #] [-nfilters #]
[-halftones #]
... [-overlap #] [-firstbin #] [-spew #]
error: usage is: bonk [-npts #] [-hop #] [-nsigs #] [-nfilters #]
[-halftones #]
... [-overlap #] [-firstbin #] [-spew #]


answer appreciated.
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[PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:45 AM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:




Selon IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at:


as said before: we are dealing with asyncrhonous messages over the
internet here.


yes just seen this...


something like pd_send myrecname [ glob -type d My-Dir ] should  
send
the output of the glob command back to Pd where it will magically  
appear

on the myrecname receiver.



pretty magics!


[pdsend tcl-rcv [file isdirectory My-Dir--[sys_gui]

[r tcl-rcv]--[sel 1]--[write My-Dir/My-File.txt cr--[textfile]

this trick could reside in an abs, I've attached something like that.

so now all this stuff is possible inside PureData:

http://tmml.sourceforge.net/doc/tcl/

unless the commands that need {}




I like the idea of an outlet on sys_gui a lot.  It should probably  
just output a bang once the command you entered into sys_gui is  
finished.  Or perhaps it needs to output a copy of the message that  
was just sent.  Otherwise, if you send a lot of messages, it might be  
hard to tell which bang goes with which message.


Then for getting messages from the pdwindow and/or console, I think  
those should probably be separate objects, like [console].


Patco, if you want to try making it work, the code is in externals/hcs/ 
sys_gui.c.  That code is pretty simple. I think you could do it by  
appending something like ; pdsend #sys_gui-receiver bang to every  
command sent, then bind to the receiver name #sys_gui-receiver to  
get that bang.


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[PD] random continuous crashes with pd extended in windows vista

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi,

Is anybody experiencing a lot of crashes with pd extended in windows vista?

I'm not sure at all but it MAY be related to one or more of these objects:
[dirpanel]
[folder_list]
[sys_gui]

(but just their existence, I mean it crash without even banging any of them)

When I create any of these objects, no matter if I keep them or delete 
them, just a little bit of patching, such as creating some vanilla 
objects, deleting some, creating more, very soon causes PD to crash.


I tried with none of the mentioned objects and so far it seems it does 
not happen but it may well be a coincidence.


Is anybody experiencing something very frequent crashes in Vista?
I've used Vanilla for a lng time and never seen this (on the same 
machine)


thanks
m.


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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

András Murányi wrote:

PS i'd be happy to give you ssh to my 64-bit box if that helps.
Then, I'm very interested in the PPA. I have no idea how to put  
together a
source package, i also don't know makefiles (yet). Do you think I  
could

manage...?


hmm, i just tried to build pd-gui-rewrite on my 64bit box and it  
built

out-of-the box and runs out of the box.



and while some commit yesterday broke library loading yet another  
time,

it's now fixed again.

fgmasdr
IOhannes



I said usable, but I didn't say bug free ;).  We just did get a bunch  
of bugs fixed, I'll fix some more today


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Re: [PD] Glitchy problems with gem...

2010-01-14 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi James,
I tried your patch on my machine (ubuntu 9.04 ashamed ATI radeon
non-supported) and it's working fine.

ATI is a crap. If you want to make serious 3d/video stuff in GEM on Linux or
you change video card, or you go back 8.04.
Meanwhile you may want to check this tips for a decent configuration of ATI
cards:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver

this helped me to not go crazy and throw my video card... but I still can't
work properly.
hope this helps..


Marco




 What's more, with desktop effects enabled gem has a lot of weirdness!
 The window border disappears, the lower half of the window displays a
 garbled image, and it corrupts the rest of my desktop! So I disabled
 desktop effects and am currently now having trouble with multiple
 gemheads - please see the attached patch. If all 3 gemheads are enabled,
 the first two seem to switch places very quickly (many times a second) -
 they should be static and scroll with the key presses. However I've just
 tested this on my desktop box running karmic with an nvidia card and it
 seems fine!

 If anyone can help with any of these issues, please let me know - it's
 very frustrating!

 thanks,

 James




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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

colet.patr...@free.fr escribió:

Selon Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com:


Any suggestions on how to check for the existence of a directory?



 it would be childish if [sys_gui] or another object would retrieve tcl console
output, then [puts [glob -type d My-Dir] would do the trick, or just a bang
when tcl command is done.



I tried the attached patch without success.
I know it's not an example of best practice, but I expected it to work.

the strategy consists of 3-steps in a single trigger:

 [t a a a]
  1  2  3

1) send the [file mkdir...( message with [sys_gui]

2) keep pd busy in an [until] loop which, at each iteration, checks 
whether the folder exists and, if so, exits the [until] loop.
I do this with [folder_list], reading the list of files contained in the 
directory where the new subdirectory is to be created and checking 
whether one of the symbols it outputs matches the complete path name of 
the to-be-created directory


3) I create the file with [textfile]


This doesn't work. I've put a maximum of 1000 iterations to avoid 
hanging pd forever. However, even if I change it to 1, 10 or 
even infinite (a bang), it never works.


Note that the [until] loop thingie does work if isolated and used to 
check the existence of a directory.



It seems like the actual creation of the directory (possibly even the 
act of sending the message to the gui process??) is deferred untill 
the completion of the whole message-tree. Is that so?




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#N canvas 681 23 450 711 10;
#X obj 247 332 sys_gui;
#X obj 188 99 dirpanel;
#X obj 192 57 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X msg 263 174 symbol \$1/newdir;
#X obj 33 332 textfile;
#X msg 40 283 set \, add cis boom bash \, write \$1/newfile.txt;
#X msg 218 245 file mkdir \$1;
#X obj 117 560 folder_list;
#X obj 114 403 until;
#X obj 137 334 t b a a;
#X obj 130 479 symbol;
#X obj 163 145 t a a a a;
#X msg 58 223 symbol \$1/newdir;
#X obj 116 589 t a a;
#X obj 126 505 t a b;
#X msg 209 635 ;
#X obj 14 306 t b a;
#X obj 265 204 t a a a;
#X obj 125 619 select -;
#X msg 105 533 symbol \$1/*;
#X obj 112 650 t b b;
#X obj 116 439 t b b;
#X msg 96 371 1000;
#X connect 1 0 11 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 17 0;
#X connect 5 0 16 0;
#X connect 6 0 0 0;
#X connect 7 0 13 0;
#X connect 8 0 21 0;
#X connect 9 0 22 0;
#X connect 9 1 10 1;
#X connect 10 0 14 0;
#X connect 11 0 12 0;
#X connect 11 1 9 0;
#X connect 11 3 3 0;
#X connect 12 0 5 0;
#X connect 13 0 18 0;
#X connect 14 0 19 0;
#X connect 14 1 15 0;
#X connect 16 1 4 0;
#X connect 17 0 6 0;
#X connect 17 2 18 1;
#X connect 18 0 20 0;
#X connect 19 0 7 0;
#X connect 20 0 8 1;
#X connect 21 0 10 0;
#X connect 22 0 8 0;
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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Jack
Maybe not nice, but it should work.
++

Jack



Le jeudi 14 janvier 2010 à 18:52 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
 colet.patr...@free.fr escribió:
  Selon Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com:
  
  Any suggestions on how to check for the existence of a directory?
 
  
   it would be childish if [sys_gui] or another object would retrieve tcl 
  console
  output, then [puts [glob -type d My-Dir] would do the trick, or just a bang
  when tcl command is done.
  
 
 I tried the attached patch without success.
 I know it's not an example of best practice, but I expected it to work.
 
 the strategy consists of 3-steps in a single trigger:
 
   [t a a a]
1  2  3
 
 1) send the [file mkdir...( message with [sys_gui]
 
 2) keep pd busy in an [until] loop which, at each iteration, checks 
 whether the folder exists and, if so, exits the [until] loop.
 I do this with [folder_list], reading the list of files contained in the 
 directory where the new subdirectory is to be created and checking 
 whether one of the symbols it outputs matches the complete path name of 
 the to-be-created directory
 
 3) I create the file with [textfile]
 
 
 This doesn't work. I've put a maximum of 1000 iterations to avoid 
 hanging pd forever. However, even if I change it to 1, 10 or 
 even infinite (a bang), it never works.
 
 Note that the [until] loop thingie does work if isolated and used to 
 check the existence of a directory.
 
 
 It seems like the actual creation of the directory (possibly even the 
 act of sending the message to the gui process??) is deferred untill 
 the completion of the whole message-tree. Is that so?
 
 
 
 pièce jointe document texte brut (test_blocking_create_dir - copia.pd)
 #N canvas 681 23 450 711 10;
 #X obj 247 332 sys_gui;
 #X obj 188 99 dirpanel;
 #X obj 192 57 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
 -1;
 #X msg 263 174 symbol \$1/newdir;
 #X obj 33 332 textfile;
 #X msg 40 283 set \, add cis boom bash \, write \$1/newfile.txt;
 #X msg 218 245 file mkdir \$1;
 #X obj 117 560 folder_list;
 #X obj 114 403 until;
 #X obj 137 334 t b a a;
 #X obj 130 479 symbol;
 #X obj 163 145 t a a a a;
 #X msg 58 223 symbol \$1/newdir;
 #X obj 116 589 t a a;
 #X obj 126 505 t a b;
 #X msg 209 635 ;
 #X obj 14 306 t b a;
 #X obj 265 204 t a a a;
 #X obj 125 619 select -;
 #X msg 105 533 symbol \$1/*;
 #X obj 112 650 t b b;
 #X obj 116 439 t b b;
 #X msg 96 371 1000;
 #X connect 1 0 11 0;
 #X connect 2 0 1 0;
 #X connect 3 0 17 0;
 #X connect 5 0 16 0;
 #X connect 6 0 0 0;
 #X connect 7 0 13 0;
 #X connect 8 0 21 0;
 #X connect 9 0 22 0;
 #X connect 9 1 10 1;
 #X connect 10 0 14 0;
 #X connect 11 0 12 0;
 #X connect 11 1 9 0;
 #X connect 11 3 3 0;
 #X connect 12 0 5 0;
 #X connect 13 0 18 0;
 #X connect 14 0 19 0;
 #X connect 14 1 15 0;
 #X connect 16 1 4 0;
 #X connect 17 0 6 0;
 #X connect 17 2 18 1;
 #X connect 18 0 20 0;
 #X connect 19 0 7 0;
 #X connect 20 0 8 1;
 #X connect 21 0 10 0;
 #X connect 22 0 8 0;
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#N canvas 684 48 450 691 10;
#X obj 249 268 sys_gui;
#X obj 188 99 dirpanel;
#X obj 192 57 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X msg 222 185 symbol \$1/newdir;
#X msg 172 515 set \, add cis boom bash \, write \$1/newfile.txt;
#X msg 249 243 file mkdir \$1;
#X msg 205 465 symbol \$1/newdir;
#X obj 222 215 t a a;
#X obj 14 292 folder_list;
#X msg 14 265 symbol \$1/*;
#X obj 14 319 sel [symbol];
#X obj 172 547 textfile;
#X obj 172 489 symbol;
#X obj 14 240 symbol;
#X obj 99 252 delay;
#X obj 14 342 t b b;
#X obj 99 206 spigot 1;
#X msg 144 183 0;
#X msg 99 229 0;
#X obj 188 132 t a a a b;
#X msg 174 183 1;
#X connect 1 0 19 0;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 7 0;
#X connect 4 0 11 0;
#X connect 5 0 0 0;
#X connect 6 0 12 1;
#X connect 7 0 10 1;
#X connect 7 1 5 0;
#X connect 8 0 10 0;
#X connect 9 0 8 0;
#X connect 10 0 15 0;
#X connect 12 0 4 0;
#X connect 13 0 9 0;
#X connect 13 0 16 0;
#X connect 14 0 13 0;
#X connect 15 0 12 0;
#X connect 15 1 17 0;
#X connect 16 0 18 0;
#X connect 17 0 16 1;
#X connect 18 0 14 0;
#X connect 19 0 13 0;
#X connect 19 1 6 0;
#X connect 19 2 3 0;
#X connect 19 3 20 0;
#X connect 20 0 16 1;
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[PD] buffer overflow with pd-hid

2010-01-14 Thread Willy

I have this message when i open and start a device. In root and user.

*** buffer overflow detected ***: pd terminated
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x4e)[0xb760289e]
/lib/libc.so.6(+0xe57da)[0xb76007da]
/lib/libc.so.6(__strcpy_chk+0x44)[0xb75ffac4]
/usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux(hid_get_events+0x60)[0xb77be380]
[0xb75a6]
=== Memory map: 
08048000-0815e000 r-xp  08:05 1281956/usr/bin/pd
0815e000-0815f000 r--p 00115000 08:05 1281956/usr/bin/pd
0815f000-08161000 rw-p 00116000 08:05 1281956/usr/bin/pd
08161000-082af000 rw-p  00:00 0  [heap]
b739e000-b739f000 ---p  00:00 0
b739f000-b7421000 rw-p  00:00 0
b7421000-b742d000 r-xp  08:05 222982 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1
b742d000-b742e000 r--p b000 08:05 222982 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1
b742e000-b742f000 rw-p c000 08:05 222982 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1
b742f000-b751 r-xp  08:05 222980 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
b751-b7514000 r--p 000e 08:05 222980 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
b7514000-b7515000 rw-p 000e4000 08:05 222980 
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10

b7515000-b751b000 rw-p  00:00 0
b751b000-b765e000 r-xp  08:02 79785  /lib/libc-2.11.so
b765e000-b766 r--p 00143000 08:02 79785  /lib/libc-2.11.so
b766-b7661000 rw-p 00145000 08:02 79785  /lib/libc-2.11.so
b7661000-b7664000 rw-p  00:00 0
b7664000-b7679000 r-xp  08:02 79821  /lib/libpthread-2.11.so
b7679000-b767a000 r--p 00014000 08:02 79821  /lib/libpthread-2.11.so
b767a000-b767b000 rw-p 00015000 08:02 79821  /lib/libpthread-2.11.so
b767b000-b767e000 rw-p  00:00 0
b767e000-b76a1000 r-xp  08:02 79848  /lib/libm-2.11.so
b76a1000-b76a2000 r--p 00022000 08:02 79848  /lib/libm-2.11.so
b76a2000-b76a3000 rw-p 00023000 08:02 79848  /lib/libm-2.11.so
b76a3000-b76a5000 r-xp  08:02 79772  /lib/libdl-2.11.so
b76a5000-b76a6000 r--p 1000 08:02 79772  /lib/libdl-2.11.so
b76a6000-b76a7000 rw-p 2000 08:02 79772  /lib/libdl-2.11.so
b76a7000-b76e5000 r-xp  08:05 2594037/usr/lib/libjack.so.0.1.0
b76e5000-b76e6000 r--p 0003e000 08:05 2594037/usr/lib/libjack.so.0.1.0
b76e6000-b76e7000 rw-p 0003f000 08:05 2594037/usr/lib/libjack.so.0.1.0
b76e7000-b76ee000 r-xp  08:02 79846  /lib/librt-2.11.so
b76ee000-b76ef000 r--p 6000 08:02 79846  /lib/librt-2.11.so
b76ef000-b76f rw-p 7000 08:02 79846  /lib/librt-2.11.so
b76f-b77a6000 r-xp  08:05 196365 /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0
b77a6000-b77a9000 r--p 000b6000 08:05 196365 /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0
b77a9000-b77aa000 rw-p 000b9000 08:05 196365 /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0
b77b7000-b77c2000 r-xp  08:05 2449497
/usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux
b77c2000-b77c3000 r--p a000 08:05 2449497
/usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux
b77c3000-b77c5000 rw-p b000 08:05 2449497
/usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux

b77c5000-b77c6000 rw-p  00:00 0
b77c6000-b77e3000 r-xp  08:02 79835  /lib/ld-2.11.so
b77e3000-b77e4000 r--p 0001c000 08:02 79835  /lib/ld-2.11.so
b77e4000-b77e5000 rw-p 0001d000 08:02 79835  /lib/ld-2.11.so
bf8c8000-bf8dd000 rw-p  00:00 0  [stack]
e000-f000 r-xp  00:00 0  [vdso]
Pd: signal 6
pd_gui: pd process exited

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Re: [PD] Glitchy problems with gem...

2010-01-14 Thread Jack
The lowest positive argument for [gemhead] is 1. So 0-1, 1-2, 2-3.
I think [gemhead 0] = [gemhead 50] but i am not sure.
However, it works fine here with Karmic and Nvidia.
++

Jack



Le jeudi 14 janvier 2010 à 16:35 +, James Dunn a écrit :
 Hi list,
 
 I had a lot of trouble getting [text3d] to work in fullscreen. It sort
 of works now - the main issue is that the fonts look terrible. I have
 aATI Radeon Mobility 9600 M10 RV350 card in my laptop which no longer
 has linux support by ATI so I'm using the xserver-xorg-video-ati
 driver in Karmic. I think the font problem is to do with FSAA and I
 don't think I can enable it with this driver. Also I think I read
 somewhere that FSAA is only available in gem for nvidia cards on
 linux. Is this correct?
 
 What's more, with desktop effects enabled gem has a lot of weirdness!
 The window border disappears, the lower half of the window displays a
 garbled image, and it corrupts the rest of my desktop! So I disabled
 desktop effects and am currently now having trouble with multiple
 gemheads - please see the attached patch. If all 3 gemheads are
 enabled, the first two seem to switch places very quickly (many times
 a second) - they should be static and scroll with the key presses.
 However I've just tested this on my desktop box running karmic with an
 nvidia card and it seems fine! 
 
 If anyone can help with any of these issues, please let me know - it's
 very frustrating!
 
 thanks,
 
 James
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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Jack escribió:

Maybe not nice, but it should work.


Thank you very much, that's great.
It does work, and I think it is as nice as it can be.

However, unfortunately, it is unsafe for my purposes because of the 
[delay 0]. Well I guess it's more correct to say it is incompatible with 
my patch.


At the end, I've come to the conclusion that I will pre-create the 
directories. Fortunately in my application the directories to create are 
like proj0, proj1, ... proj127 (127 being a reasonable limit also 
because they are gonna be selected via midi), and the parent folder is 
only selected by the user, interactively (i.e. manually) every once in a 
while (and automatically at loadbang, but never else). So I can create 
127 folders when the user selects the parent directory, and quite-safely 
assume enough time elapses before it's time to save something into them.


Now what worries me is that pd Extended is crashing a lot; however 
chances are that it is because of [folder_list]; I hope so, because I 
don't need it


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[PD] putting externals into the patch directory in Mac OS

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

Hi again,

I've found out to my great surprise (yes, well, I didn't know it :$) 
that in Windows I can just place the .dll file of an external in the 
patch directory and then I can use that external in the patch.


Is it possible to do the same in MacOS? (with the library's binary for 
Mac of course - is .darwin the extension or something similar iirc?)


thanks
m.

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Re: [PD] buffer overflow with pd-hid

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Which device are you opening?  What are the perms on that device?  I  
don't know if this is related to the problems people were having with  
recent Debian/Ubuntu versions, where the system locked access to the  
devices.


.hc

On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Willy wrote:


I have this message when i open and start a device. In root and user.

*** buffer overflow detected ***: pd terminated
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x4e)[0xb760289e]
/lib/libc.so.6(+0xe57da)[0xb76007da]
/lib/libc.so.6(__strcpy_chk+0x44)[0xb75ffac4]
/usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux(hid_get_events+0x60)[0xb77be380]
[0xb75a6]
=== Memory map: 
08048000-0815e000 r-xp  08:05 1281956/usr/bin/pd
0815e000-0815f000 r--p 00115000 08:05 1281956/usr/bin/pd
0815f000-08161000 rw-p 00116000 08:05 1281956/usr/bin/pd
08161000-082af000 rw-p  00:00 0  [heap]
b739e000-b739f000 ---p  00:00 0
b739f000-b7421000 rw-p  00:00 0
b7421000-b742d000 r-xp  08:05 222982 /usr/lib/gcc/i686- 
pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1
b742d000-b742e000 r--p b000 08:05 222982 /usr/lib/gcc/i686- 
pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1
b742e000-b742f000 rw-p c000 08:05 222982 /usr/lib/gcc/i686- 
pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1
b742f000-b751 r-xp  08:05 222980 /usr/lib/gcc/i686- 
pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
b751-b7514000 r--p 000e 08:05 222980 /usr/lib/gcc/i686- 
pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10
b7514000-b7515000 rw-p 000e4000 08:05 222980 /usr/lib/gcc/i686- 
pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10

b7515000-b751b000 rw-p  00:00 0
b751b000-b765e000 r-xp  08:02 79785  /lib/libc-2.11.so
b765e000-b766 r--p 00143000 08:02 79785  /lib/libc-2.11.so
b766-b7661000 rw-p 00145000 08:02 79785  /lib/libc-2.11.so
b7661000-b7664000 rw-p  00:00 0
b7664000-b7679000 r-xp  08:02 79821  /lib/ 
libpthread-2.11.so
b7679000-b767a000 r--p 00014000 08:02 79821  /lib/ 
libpthread-2.11.so
b767a000-b767b000 rw-p 00015000 08:02 79821  /lib/ 
libpthread-2.11.so

b767b000-b767e000 rw-p  00:00 0
b767e000-b76a1000 r-xp  08:02 79848  /lib/libm-2.11.so
b76a1000-b76a2000 r--p 00022000 08:02 79848  /lib/libm-2.11.so
b76a2000-b76a3000 rw-p 00023000 08:02 79848  /lib/libm-2.11.so
b76a3000-b76a5000 r-xp  08:02 79772  /lib/libdl-2.11.so
b76a5000-b76a6000 r--p 1000 08:02 79772  /lib/libdl-2.11.so
b76a6000-b76a7000 rw-p 2000 08:02 79772  /lib/libdl-2.11.so
b76a7000-b76e5000 r-xp  08:05 2594037/usr/lib/libjack.so. 
0.1.0
b76e5000-b76e6000 r--p 0003e000 08:05 2594037/usr/lib/libjack.so. 
0.1.0
b76e6000-b76e7000 rw-p 0003f000 08:05 2594037/usr/lib/libjack.so. 
0.1.0

b76e7000-b76ee000 r-xp  08:02 79846  /lib/librt-2.11.so
b76ee000-b76ef000 r--p 6000 08:02 79846  /lib/librt-2.11.so
b76ef000-b76f rw-p 7000 08:02 79846  /lib/librt-2.11.so
b76f-b77a6000 r-xp  08:05 196365 /usr/lib/ 
libasound.so.2.0.0
b77a6000-b77a9000 r--p 000b6000 08:05 196365 /usr/lib/ 
libasound.so.2.0.0
b77a9000-b77aa000 rw-p 000b9000 08:05 196365 /usr/lib/ 
libasound.so.2.0.0
b77b7000-b77c2000 r-xp  08:05 2449497/usr/lib/pd/extra/ 
hid/hid.pd_linux
b77c2000-b77c3000 r--p a000 08:05 2449497/usr/lib/pd/extra/ 
hid/hid.pd_linux
b77c3000-b77c5000 rw-p b000 08:05 2449497/usr/lib/pd/extra/ 
hid/hid.pd_linux

b77c5000-b77c6000 rw-p  00:00 0
b77c6000-b77e3000 r-xp  08:02 79835  /lib/ld-2.11.so
b77e3000-b77e4000 r--p 0001c000 08:02 79835  /lib/ld-2.11.so
b77e4000-b77e5000 rw-p 0001d000 08:02 79835  /lib/ld-2.11.so
bf8c8000-bf8dd000 rw-p  00:00 0  [stack]
e000-f000 r-xp  00:00 0  [vdso]
Pd: signal 6
pd_gui: pd process exited

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended, Ubuntu Studio 9.10?

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Perhaps you have old perferences?  Try renaming or deleting these files:

~/.pdrc
~/.pdsettings

.hc

On Jan 14, 2010, at 7:06 AM, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:

I'm on a slow learning curve here, a mac user experimenting with  
Linux on an
MSI Wind U100 clone (Advent 4211-c). So far I have Ubuntu Studio  
9.10 up and
running. Pd is included, but it seems to be a vanilla version, and I  
really

need various libraries.

It seems that there is currently no package for Pd-extended in the  
ubuntu
repositories. So, I uninstalled pd (vanilla) in Synaptic Package  
Manager,

and downloaded and installed this instead;

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.42.5-extended-ubuntu-k
armic-i386.deb

It basically seems to launch and work. However, by default, it seems  
to
launch with no libraries. When I add libraries to, whatever you call  
it,
that page where you add libraries, only Gem seems successful,  
otherwise I

get errors, for instance;

cyclone: can't load library

The files would all seem to be there in usr/lib/pd. What now?

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Re: [PD] pd-gui-rewrite and portaudio

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Try jack and see if it works.  It looks like portaudio did compile on  
your machine, but something isn't working right.


.hc

On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:


Thanks folks, this mean portaudio _is_ included, right?
I compiled as Hans did, should i compile again with jack flag?

When i try to configure portaudio in pd settings i have this in the  
terminal:


Error number -9996 opening portaudio stream
Error message: Invalid device


M

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:09 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at 


wrote:
 Marco Donnarumma wrote:
  Hi list,
  just got my hands on the pd-gui-rewrite. It looks great, smooth  
and sweet,

  you guys have done a big re-work and i'm pretty impressed.
  Anyway now comes the hassle..
  I cannot have the sound working on my soundcard (simple edirol  
UA-25 on

  Ubuntu 8.04).
  Launching pd - with or without pasuspender and or qjackctl -  
gives me

  endless:
  ...
  ...
  ...
  unknown API
  unknown API
  audio I/O stuck... closing audio
  sys_close_audio: unknown API 5
 
  Clicking the OSS and portaudio settings I don't see any listed  
device, the

  dropdown menu is simply blank.
  Am i missing something?
  didn't find anything useful in the archive so far.

 by default, the pd-gui rewrite seems to build without jack or  
portaudio.
 however, the gui is not very impressed, and still shows portaudio  
and/or

 jack.

 if you compiled it yourself, try to explicitly enable jack with
 --enabled-jack

On my Ubuntu/Karmic, OSS, ALSA, and portaudio all work for me.  I  
build

like this:

./autogen.sh  ./configure  make
cd src  ./pd

Why do you think portaudio is not being included?

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Re: [PD] Problem with Snow Leopard and Flext

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Hey Cecile,

Pd-extended doesn't need to be x86_64, but they do need to match,  
either both 32-bit or both 64-bit.


.hc

On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Cécile Picard-Limpens wrote:


Dear List,

I'm encountering the same problem as Miguel.. (message on Sat Dec  
12). I'm using Apple Snow Leopard (10.6.2) on my macbook (2.26 GHz  
Intel Core Duo).
As anyone succeeded building and launching flext objects using OSX  
Snow Leopard?

It compiles but crashes at launching without error messages...

Does it mean that the Pd-extended version compiled with x86_64 is  
needed?


Thanks for your help!

Cecile.


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Re: [PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:

 Patco, if you want to try making it work, the code is in externals/hcs/
 sys_gui.c.  That code is pretty simple. I think you could do it by


my msys build system is broken:

$ make hcs/sys_gui
cc -DPD -I/home/patko/pd-extended/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb
-I/home/patko/pd-extended/Gem/src -mms-bitfields -DMSW -DNT -D'O_NONBLOCK=1'
-D'srand48(n)=srand((n))' -D'drand48()=((double)rand()/RAND_MAX)'
-D'bzero(p,n)=memset(p,0,n)'   -s -shared  hcs/sys_gui.c   -o hcs/sys_gui
make: cc: Command not found
make: *** [hcs/sys_gui] Error 127

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[PD] loading libs in pd-gui-rewrite: undefined symbol: s_float

2010-01-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all

Keen to explore the joys of the new pd-gui-rewrite, I would like to use
also some externals with it. I'm having troubles compiling them, so that
they successfully load. The issue appears at least with the following
libraries:
* zexy
* maxlib
* iemmatrix

For each when loading i get something like:
./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: undefined
symbol: s_float

I tried to compile the newest version from svn against the sources of
pd-gui-rewrite:

cd /home/roman/pd-svn/externals/zexy/
svn update
cd src
make clean
./configure --with-pd=/home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite
make
sudo make install
ln -s /usr/local/lib/pd/extra /home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite/extra

I get the above message, when doing this in the pd-gui-rewrite/src
directory:

./pd -lib zexy

Since I almost haven't seen anyone posting such problems, it seems to
me, that I'm doing something wrong, but what?

Thanks in advance

Roman




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Re: [PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jan 14, 2010, at 2:58 PM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:


Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:

Patco, if you want to try making it work, the code is in externals/ 
hcs/

sys_gui.c.  That code is pretty simple. I think you could do it by



my msys build system is broken:

$ make hcs/sys_gui
cc -DPD -I/home/patko/pd-extended/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb
-I/home/patko/pd-extended/Gem/src -mms-bitfields -DMSW -DNT - 
D'O_NONBLOCK=1'

-D'srand48(n)=srand((n))' -D'drand48()=((double)rand()/RAND_MAX)'
-D'bzero(p,n)=memset(p,0,n)'   -s -shared  hcs/sys_gui.c   -o hcs/ 
sys_gui

make: cc: Command not found
make: *** [hcs/sys_gui] Error 127


make CC=gcc

or even better
export CC=gcc

.hc




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It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and  
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Re: [PD] Glitchy problems with gem...

2010-01-14 Thread James Dunn
2010/1/14 Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com:

 ATI is a crap. If you want to make serious 3d/video stuff in GEM on Linux or
 you change video card, or you go back 8.04.
 Meanwhile you may want to check this tips for a decent configuration of ATI
 cards:

 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver


Thanks for the thinkwiki.org link, I've not seen that one. I'm tempted
to revert to Hardy 8.04 but have read it's also possible to just
downgrade xorg. Might give this a try first. So can someone confirm
it's definitely the driver and nothing to do with gem? Just want to
make sure before I completely hack up my OS! Is there any other test I
could do?

Jack - thanks for the gemhead tip - I had tried numbering them from 1
but it was the same result.

James

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Re: [PD] create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette

colet.patr...@free.fr escribió:


ah, did you try the last proposition? (attached again)



I tried with:

[file mkdir d:/some/dir(
|
[sys_gui-r]   //your abstraction
|
[print]

I guess that's how it is supposed to work.

It does create the directory, but nothing comes out from the outlet.

The method seems very very interesting though: I guess it can be used 
for other purposes...


However for the
moment, as I said in a previous message to Jack (who proposed a solution
similar to my approach but with [delay 0]s), any asynchronous solution
to the create-folder problem implies too much repatching in my project.

A synchronous solution
(real solution to the problem as I formulated it) seems not to be 
possible, but fortunately I've realised that for my specific problem 
there's a third way.


Instead of creating the directory just when
it is needed, I will create a set of directories much before, when the
parent directory is chosen (which is always done by the user 
manually), since the names of the directories that I

need are just fixedprefix0, fixedprefix1..fixedprefixN with N=127

So when the patch automatically creates files, the directories already 
exist.



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Re: [PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:54 +0100, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
 Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
 
 
  
   my msys build system is broken:
  
   make: cc: Command not found
   make: *** [hcs/sys_gui] Error 127
 
  make CC=gcc
 
  or even better
  export CC=gcc
 
  ok, but the linker doesn't find pd, normal I couldn't build pd:
 
  ~/pd-extended/pd/src
 $ autoconf
 /bin/m4: unrecognized option `--gnu'
 Try `/bin/m4 --help' for more information.
 autom4te-2.64: /bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1

The autoconf stuff doesn't work on MinGW fully, it would be great if it
did.  If you take that on, I'll help wherever I can.  It does work on
Cygwin.  For MinGW you are better of doing:

cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

.hc

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[PD] Pd-vanilla 0.42.5 package for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic, and Lucid

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I was just playing around with Launchpad and testing out recent changes
to the Debian 'puredata' package.  If you want a Pd-vanilla 0.42.5
package for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic, or Lucid, you can
get them here:

https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pure-data

.hc

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Re: [PD] loading libs in pd-gui-rewrite: undefined symbol: s_float

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Should work now, IOhannes found the issue.  Its -export-dynamic with one
leading dash when it goes thru libtool, and --export-dynamic when it
goes straight to ld...

.hc

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:56 +0100, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de
wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Keen to explore the joys of the new pd-gui-rewrite, I would like to use
 also some externals with it. I'm having troubles compiling them, so that
 they successfully load. The issue appears at least with the following
 libraries:
 * zexy
 * maxlib
 * iemmatrix
 
 For each when loading i get something like:
 ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: undefined
 symbol: s_float
 
 I tried to compile the newest version from svn against the sources of
 pd-gui-rewrite:
 
 cd /home/roman/pd-svn/externals/zexy/
 svn update
 cd src
 make clean
 ./configure --with-pd=/home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite
 make
 sudo make install
 ln -s /usr/local/lib/pd/extra /home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite/extra
 
 I get the above message, when doing this in the pd-gui-rewrite/src
 directory:
 
 ./pd -lib zexy
 
 Since I almost haven't seen anyone posting such problems, it seems to
 me, that I'm doing something wrong, but what?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
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Re: [PD] loading libs in pd-gui-rewrite: undefined symbol: s_float

2010-01-14 Thread cyrille henry

yes it now does work again.
c


Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

Should work now, IOhannes found the issue.  Its -export-dynamic with one
leading dash when it goes thru libtool, and --export-dynamic when it
goes straight to ld...

.hc

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:56 +0100, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de
wrote:

Hi all

Keen to explore the joys of the new pd-gui-rewrite, I would like to use
also some externals with it. I'm having troubles compiling them, so that
they successfully load. The issue appears at least with the following
libraries:
* zexy
* maxlib
* iemmatrix

For each when loading i get something like:
./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: undefined
symbol: s_float

I tried to compile the newest version from svn against the sources of
pd-gui-rewrite:

cd /home/roman/pd-svn/externals/zexy/
svn update
cd src
make clean
./configure --with-pd=/home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite
make
sudo make install
ln -s /usr/local/lib/pd/extra /home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite/extra

I get the above message, when doing this in the pd-gui-rewrite/src
directory:

./pd -lib zexy

Since I almost haven't seen anyone posting such problems, it seems to
me, that I'm doing something wrong, but what?

Thanks in advance

Roman




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Re: [PD] Pd-vanilla 0.42.5 package for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic, and Lucid

2010-01-14 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

I was just playing around with Launchpad and testing out recent changes
to the Debian 'puredata' package.  If you want a Pd-vanilla 0.42.5
package for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic, or Lucid, you can
get them here:

https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pure-data


There is already a Pd-vanilla 0.42.5 package for Ubuntu Karmic in the 
Puredyne PPA, along with quite a few externals (and lots of other 
software), you can get them here:


https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa

Hopefully these parallel efforts can be merged at some point (I did try 
and use the Debian Sid source package but Launchpad spat errors at me 
for changing the .orig file, as I'd already uploaded one for that 
version of puredata).



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Re: [PD] Pd-vanilla 0.42.5 package for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic, and Lucid

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:09 +, Claude Heiland-Allen
claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org wrote:
 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  I was just playing around with Launchpad and testing out recent changes
  to the Debian 'puredata' package.  If you want a Pd-vanilla 0.42.5
  package for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic, or Lucid, you can
  get them here:
  
  https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pure-data
 
 There is already a Pd-vanilla 0.42.5 package for Ubuntu Karmic in the 
 Puredyne PPA, along with quite a few externals (and lots of other 
 software), you can get them here:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa
 
 Hopefully these parallel efforts can be merged at some point (I did try 
 and use the Debian Sid source package but Launchpad spat errors at me 
 for changing the .orig file, as I'd already uploaded one for that 
 version of puredata).

I just had a look, I think we just fixed the same thing, i.e. the extra
abstractions and objects not being installed.  At quick glance, mine
looks a bit closer to piem's Debian/testing example, and is more
targeted (i.e. less * used...).  I built upon piem's and IOhannes' fixes
too, which I am not sure if you included.  They are in the 0.42.5-3 in
Debian/testing.

I mostly posted mine as an FYI, since I am just learning to use
Launchpad.  I don't plan on maintaining stuff there.  I just know that
some people are stuck on old releases due to their hardware, so its good
to have updated packages around for old releases.

.hc

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Re: [PD] loading libs in pd-gui-rewrite: undefined symbol: s_float

2010-01-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Here too.

Thanks!
Roman

On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 23:07 +0100, cyrille henry wrote:
 yes it now does work again.
 c
 
 
 Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
  Should work now, IOhannes found the issue.  Its -export-dynamic with one
  leading dash when it goes thru libtool, and --export-dynamic when it
  goes straight to ld...
  
  .hc
  
  On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:56 +0100, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de
  wrote:
  Hi all
 
  Keen to explore the joys of the new pd-gui-rewrite, I would like to use
  also some externals with it. I'm having troubles compiling them, so that
  they successfully load. The issue appears at least with the following
  libraries:
  * zexy
  * maxlib
  * iemmatrix
 
  For each when loading i get something like:
  ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: undefined
  symbol: s_float
 
  I tried to compile the newest version from svn against the sources of
  pd-gui-rewrite:
 
  cd /home/roman/pd-svn/externals/zexy/
  svn update
  cd src
  make clean
  ./configure --with-pd=/home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite
  make
  sudo make install
  ln -s /usr/local/lib/pd/extra /home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite/extra
 
  I get the above message, when doing this in the pd-gui-rewrite/src
  directory:
 
  ./pd -lib zexy
 
  Since I almost haven't seen anyone posting such problems, it seems to
  me, that I'm doing something wrong, but what?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Roman
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] (0.43) new Window menu with tree view

2010-01-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi

I found a little glitch in certain situations. When a 'grandchild'
subpatch or abstraction is made visible by sending it a 'vis 1' message
while the child (parent of the grandchild) is not visible, the canvas of
the grandchild is shown, but its title has a cryptic name (like
x93a5cd8). Also the canvas misses an entry in the window hierarchy then
(how could it not be missing without 'living' parents?)
It's really nothing serious, but I thought I report it anyway.

Roman
 

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 17:35 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 Ok, this kicked my butt a little bit, but I got it working.  Now, the  
 Window menu shows all windows, whether they are from a parent or child  
 window, or a supatch.  Even better, it shows them in tree-ish way so  
 you can see how they are related.  The child windows are intended and  
 inserted after their parents.  GIve it a try and let me know if it  
 works for you.
 
 http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite
 
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Re: [PD] (0.43) new Window menu with tree view

2010-01-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
I forgot to attach the console output:

Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: can't read ::windowname(.x93a5cd8): no such
element in array
while executing
append label $::windowname($entry)
(procedure insert_into_menu line 16)
invoked from within
insert_into_menu $mymenu $window [find_mapped_parent $parentlist]
(procedure ::pd_menus::update_window_menu line 14)
invoked from within
::pd_menus::update_window_menu
(uplevel body line 4)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd


On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 17:35 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 Ok, this kicked my butt a little bit, but I got it working.  Now, the  
 Window menu shows all windows, whether they are from a parent or child  
 window, or a supatch.  Even better, it shows them in tree-ish way so  
 you can see how they are related.  The child windows are intended and  
 inserted after their parents.  GIve it a try and let me know if it  
 works for you.
 
 http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite
 



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[PD] Fedora 12 + gnome DPI + tcl/tk 8.5

2010-01-14 Thread Matt Barber
Hello,

I'm working in Pd extended using the planetccrma package, on Fedora
12, comparing behavior on two systems.

I found on one system all the iemgui fonts appeared correct, but the
normal object fonts appeared too small (which is the opposite of
usual; normally the object fonts are correct and the iemgui fonts are
too large), but only when logged in using GNOME -- fluxbox made things
bad again.

Also on a machine with the identical setup but a different monitor,
even in gnome the iemguis appeared too large again.  The only two
differences between my machines were the X11 DPI setting (xdpyinfo |
grep resolution gave me 75 on one and 96 on the other) and the gnome
DPI settings under
System-Preferences-Appearance-Fonts-Details-Resolution .  As it
turns out, if the gnome one is set to 72, the patches look the same as
on other operating systems, except the object fonts are too small (I
could fix this by editing the sizelist hack in pd.tk back to
normal).  Also, in fluxbox, the only way to get iemguis to look
correct is if I run /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon.  I don't know
tcl/tk well enough to know what all this means, but it seems the X11
DPI is meaningless to Pd, at least on my systems; I can make patches
look normal (but fonts in other applications way too small) by setting
the gnome DPI to 72, and resetting the sizelist hack.


I hope this is a little useful.

Matt

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[PD] Virtual keyboard

2010-01-14 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

(I am using a recent version of Gentoo-Linux)

...again a very newbish question:

Since I have no midi-hardware I like to know whether there
is some software-keyboard which sends midi signals and
which I can connect to PureData? And -- if yes -- how
can I connect it to PureData?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
mcc

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Re: [PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:

   ~/pd-extended/pd/src
  $ autoconf
  /bin/m4: unrecognized option `--gnu'
  Try `/bin/m4 --help' for more information.
  autom4te-2.64: /bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1

 The autoconf stuff doesn't work on MinGW fully, it would be great if it
 did.  If you take that on, I'll help wherever I can.  It does work on
 Cygwin.  For MinGW you are better of doing:

 cd pd/src
 make -f makefile.mingw

msys builds pd with using makefile.mingw, export CC=gcc, deleting
makefile.dependencies, and adding asio sources, like explained in tutorial and
mails, but the problem stand still with building externals:

$ make hcs/sys_gui
gcc -DPD -I/home/patko/pd-extended/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb
-I/home/patko/pd-extended/Gem/src -mms-bitfields -DMSW -DNT -D'O_NONBLOCK=1'
-D'srand48(n)=srand((n))' -D'drand48()=((double)rand()/RAND_MAX)'
-D'bzero(p,n)=memset(p,0,n)'   -s -shared  hcs/sys_gui.c   -o hcs/sys_gui
hcs/sys_gui.c:38: warning: unused parameter 's'
hcs/sys_gui.c:59: warning: unused parameter 's'
C:/Users/patko/AppData/Local/Temp/ccoMWUeM.o: dans la fonction « sys_gui_bang


C:\msys\1.0\home\patko\pd-extended\externals/hcs/sys_gui.c:77: référence
indéfinie vers « _imp__class_addlist »
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [hcs/sys_gui] Error 1


I'm giving a try on cygwin, pd-gui-rewrite compiles fine on it.


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[PD] building on windows vista WAS: sys_gui outlet

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:

  $ autoconf
  /bin/m4: unrecognized option `--gnu'
  Try `/bin/m4 --help' for more information.
  autom4te-2.64: /bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1

 The autoconf stuff doesn't work on MinGW fully, it would be great if it
 did.  If you take that on, I'll help wherever I can.  It does work on


the autoconf problem in msys is fixed with installing this:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MSYS
m4/m4-1.4.13-1/m4-1.4.13-1-msys-1.0.11-bin.tar.lzma

but now a problem appears with ./configure:

checking for _LARGE_FILES value needed for large files... unknown
./configure: line 5742: syntax error near unexpected token `SINF,'
./configure: line 5742: `AST_EXT_LIB_CHECK(SINF,   m, sinf)'

during svn upload that stops here:

svn: Your .svn/tmp directory may be missing or corrupt; run 'svn cleanup' and tr
y again
svn: Can't open file 'pd-extended/v0-39-2/externals/gridflow/doc/flow_classes/.s
vn/tmp/text-base/inv*-icon.png.svn-base': No such file or directory

pa...@pc-de-patko ~
$ svn cleanup
svn: '.' is not a working copy directory

I remember this is not the first time it happens, but how to fix this?

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Re: [PD] building on windows vista WAS: sys_gui outlet

2010-01-14 Thread colet . patrice
Selon colet.patr...@free.fr:

 during svn upload that stops here:

 svn: Your .svn/tmp directory may be missing or corrupt; run 'svn cleanup' and
 tr
 y again
 svn: Can't open file
 'pd-extended/v0-39-2/externals/gridflow/doc/flow_classes/.s
 vn/tmp/text-base/inv*-icon.png.svn-base': No such file or directory

 pa...@pc-de-patko ~
 $ svn cleanup
 svn: '.' is not a working copy directory

 I remember this is not the first time it happens, but how to fix this?


forgot to tell it's on cygwin, just figured out that's why i didn't compile
pd-extended on cygwin, only pd-gui-rewrite...


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Re: [PD] Virtual keyboard

2010-01-14 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi you need the object key... then makenote... and a synth or pd synth,
maybe a midiout but you dont have a midi interface...

[key]

[number]

[sel x] th

[makenote] or osc~, what you want

Best regards

José

2010/1/15 meino.cra...@gmx.de


 Hi,

 (I am using a recent version of Gentoo-Linux)

 ...again a very newbish question:

 Since I have no midi-hardware I like to know whether there
 is some software-keyboard which sends midi signals and
 which I can connect to PureData? And -- if yes -- how
 can I connect it to PureData?

 Thank you very much in advance for any help!

 Have a nice weekend!
 Best regards,
 mcc

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Re: [PD] building on windows vista WAS: sys_gui outlet

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:42 PM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:


Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:


$ autoconf
/bin/m4: unrecognized option `--gnu'
Try `/bin/m4 --help' for more information.
autom4te-2.64: /bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1


The autoconf stuff doesn't work on MinGW fully, it would be great  
if it

did.  If you take that on, I'll help wherever I can.  It does work on



the autoconf problem in msys is fixed with installing this:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MSYS
m4/m4-1.4.13-1/m4-1.4.13-1-msys-1.0.11-bin.tar.lzma

but now a problem appears with ./configure:

checking for _LARGE_FILES value needed for large files... unknown
./configure: line 5742: syntax error near unexpected token `SINF,'
./configure: line 5742: `AST_EXT_LIB_CHECK(SINF,   m, sinf)'


The build farm machine was built like this, and autoconf works there  
under MinGW.  I recommend following this setup:


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW



during svn upload that stops here:

svn: Your .svn/tmp directory may be missing or corrupt; run 'svn  
cleanup' and tr

y again
svn: Can't open file 'pd-extended/v0-39-2/externals/gridflow/doc/ 
flow_classes/.s

vn/tmp/text-base/inv*-icon.png.svn-base': No such file or directory

pa...@pc-de-patko ~
$ svn cleanup
svn: '.' is not a working copy directory

I remember this is not the first time it happens, but how to fix this?


Try this:

cd externals
svn up [A-Za-fh-z]* g[a-qs-z]*

I thought that the 'gridflow' folder was moved to the an  
svn:external.  So maybe this is enough:


svn up --ignore-externals


.hc




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Re: [PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation

2010-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:24 PM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:


Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:


~/pd-extended/pd/src
$ autoconf
/bin/m4: unrecognized option `--gnu'
Try `/bin/m4 --help' for more information.
autom4te-2.64: /bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1


The autoconf stuff doesn't work on MinGW fully, it would be great  
if it

did.  If you take that on, I'll help wherever I can.  It does work on
Cygwin.  For MinGW you are better of doing:

cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw


msys builds pd with using makefile.mingw, export CC=gcc, deleting
makefile.dependencies, and adding asio sources, like explained in  
tutorial and

mails, but the problem stand still with building externals:

$ make hcs/sys_gui
gcc -DPD -I/home/patko/pd-extended/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb
-I/home/patko/pd-extended/Gem/src -mms-bitfields -DMSW -DNT - 
D'O_NONBLOCK=1'

-D'srand48(n)=srand((n))' -D'drand48()=((double)rand()/RAND_MAX)'
-D'bzero(p,n)=memset(p,0,n)'   -s -shared  hcs/sys_gui.c   -o hcs/ 
sys_gui

hcs/sys_gui.c:38: warning: unused parameter 's'
hcs/sys_gui.c:59: warning: unused parameter 's'
C:/Users/patko/AppData/Local/Temp/ccoMWUeM.o: dans la fonction «  
sys_gui_bang



C:\msys\1.0\home\patko\pd-extended\externals/hcs/sys_gui.c:77:  
référence

indéfinie vers « _imp__class_addlist »
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [hcs/sys_gui] Error 1


I'm giving a try on cygwin, pd-gui-rewrite compiles fine on it.


cd externals
make hcs

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Re: [PD] Virtual keyboard

2010-01-14 Thread patrick
no need to reinvent the wheel, i am sure you can find a gop piano / 
keyboard in pd-extended or use mtl/piano:


http://puredata.info/Members/mtl/index_html

pat



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