Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 01:49 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: i thought this is what you were asking for with is there a way on the command line to load only certain libs? yes, but I'm trying to understand your statement: 'the panel merely being a wrapper around the -path flag' ah in understand. i was referring to the path-entry box, and not to the apply/save buttons in the panels. both the cmd-line flags and the .pdsettings are a way to configure your Pd sessions; none of them are a way to script Pd (which it seems is what you were expecting: being able to script Pd from the cmdline to store it's preferences to a file) [1] unless I'm not understanding something making these changes from the panel in Pd these settings are persistent making them from the command line they are not the question is, why would you want to make the settings persistens from the console? and how is this .pdsettings more persistent than cmdline flags or a shell-scripts. is there a way to make this persistent from the console? use a shell-script. a shell script would only work on a per session basis as well - no? all settings are per session; whenever you run the shell-script with the same-flags, you will have the same behaviour of Pd. .pdsettings are just a more user friendly way to provide Pd-settings (for users that are afraid of the cli; e.g. i regularily delete my .pdsettings, because i don't need it and it only interferes with what i'm doing) anyhow, since Pd is cool and despite of what i said above, it even allows you to save your preferences with shell-flags. [1] pd -lib blu -send pd save-preferences ; fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwR5f0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTv1ACeIYEufjLIxi50qE3te2XyAL0d qQ8AmgPLsN6OjoLDsu97Gwq4aNgQqTYd =m0DZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] No drop down menu from Put toolbar.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 01:37 AM, Aidan Mollen wrote: Hi List, When I scroll over Put on the toolbar, no drop down menu appears. this is common if you don't have anything to put into. make sure you have a patch-window open (if not, create one with File-New) and it has focus. fgasrm IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwR5rAACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQjbQCgo8Ki/ky5eSi+Et4cg/9hmk78 0V4An2zejAUQCM6IVGuvNPzq8wPNZNeO =SqJO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 08:30 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: a shell script would only work on a per session basis as well - no? all settings are per session; whenever you run the shell-script with the same-flags, you will have the same behaviour of Pd. to avoid confusion, this should have read [...] run the same shell-script (which obviously has the same flags stored within at each call) [...] .pdsettings are just a more user friendly way to provide Pd-settings (for users that are afraid of the cli; e.g. i regularily delete my .pdsettings, because i don't need it and it only interferes with what i'm doing) of course, my deletion is not so regulary, as i usually don't have a .pdsettings, sometimes i do generate one (e.g. just now to test the scripted pref-saving), and only then do i delete them. gfsfdg IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwR7iwACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSk6wCgpB34FNFMQIK0baMHySGrk0mU cxsAn2zQVP6gEQE27iFZJIOITDEPe+1S =cz/p -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] missing tcl library pd-0.42-5 eeebuntu 4.0
Hello, I'm trying to install pd-0.42-5 on my new netbook running EB 4.0. It says there are no tcl libraries. I tried to install tcl8.5 using 'sudo apt-get install tcl8.5' and it seem to work. Still './configure' in pd/src/ could't find any tcl library. I also downloaded tcllib-1.12 from sourceforge and installed it. This as well did not work for pd. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance! Funs I ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 09:22 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: actually, it seems that the .pdsettings are loaded on start up -- no? so wouldn't that make them a sort of script too - in a sense? yes, it's a script in a declarative language, with a very minimalistic feature set. it's not what i would call a script in everyday life (which for me is usually very imperative). in a sense everything is a script. yes, I was only interested in creating a workflow that would make testing plugin~ smoother no big deal about not being able to set -flags persistently that's why i was wondering... .pdsettings gets loaded on startup - no? yes so, if I make changes directly to this file in gedit won't those changes be loaded as well? sure; that's the point of a configuration file. though i don't get your point. if you have a shell script like: snip #!/bin/sh pd -path /path/to/nowhere -lib rary /snip and you run this script, then Pd will persistently add /path/to/nowhere to it's search-path and it will persistently try to load the rary lib. every single time you run the script. if you open the script in gedit, and change the nowhere to anywhere, then the Pd will persistently add /path/to/anywhere whenever started from this script. you can then ignore the pdsettings. but you can have multiple scripts with different AND still persistent configuration settings, that don't interfere with each other and you don't have to fiddle around with the configuration-switcher hack. thanks again for your PdX lessons - they help me understand the difference between Max and Pd :) my lessons are not PdX lessons; they are Pd-vanilla lessons; fortunately they also apply to PdX. == also, I found some other bugs/issues in [plugin~] see attached file for info where do you have this helpfile from? it seems to be unrelated to mine. i have not found any traces of bind and the like in the source-code for plugin~.c have i fixed the wrong code? === plugin~: Delayorama print: port in control Random seed 0 1000 looks good, doesn't it? error: [print]: close-paren without open-paren oops; seems there is a problem with displaying symbols with parenthesis. i don't seem to have this problem here (though i don't have the delayorama plugin; and the invada_mono_tube_module_0_1 works just fine (with pd-vanilla 0.42.6) fdgmasr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwR+WgACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRWCQCfWkFYgpD+idyNZJS+owWbxYSU 0tAAoJoSf183s1k21vs1AuFBats4tAj1 =BkEY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] missing tcl library pd-0.42-5 eeebuntu 4.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 09:19 AM, Funs Seelen wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install pd-0.42-5 on my new netbook running EB 4.0. It says there are no tcl libraries. I tried to install tcl8.5 using 'sudo apt-get install tcl8.5' and it seem to work. Still './configure' in pd/src/ could't find any tcl library. I also downloaded tcllib-1.12 from sourceforge and installed it. This as well did not work for pd. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? for compiling you need the -dev packages of a library. eg. tk8.5-dev should install the development files for tcl/tk 8.5 (the tcl part is installed, because tk8.5-dev depends on it) mfasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwR+c4ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSUKgCg38is97FnkigGLrqpuLrHtc87 HN8An0KXGIb0JILZgmen2y74AHfSIyPZ =OxrE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Come see PD in action
If you happen to be in Slovenia... Friday 18th of June at the Kibla arts centre in Maribor Slovenia Ukiyo by Dans sans Joux Ukiyo explores the layers of perceptions in an audiovisual world that constantly shifts and fragments; the audience is invited to move in and around the space which features five hanamichi (runways) and several projection screens for the photography and virtual world graphics. The dancers perform simultaneously with digital objects that are projected and generate some of the sonic dimensions through the sounding garments. The music and visual choreography for Ukiyo are designed partly for real-time gestural interaction to animate the feedback system and generative algorithms through with the virtual space and the performer movements are intertwined. (Pd features in the music and sensor interaction) more details (scroll down for English) http://www.dance-tech.net/events/ukiyo-2-birringer-daplab/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] starting automatically read only (Ubuntu 10.04)
If the file's contents have to be preserved between sessions, it's breaking the read only system paradigm. (You may still be able to use an usb drive for this purpose?) It's actually working fine writing edited data to the rw sda3 partition where some folders have been linked to. If the file can be recreated with the same content at each startup, i'd think about how to trick it to be on a temporary writable filesystem. I suppose we cannot change the default path for this file, and i'm not sure if you can a have link in your read only filesystem (/home/ingo) pointing to a yet-to-be-created file on a temporary filesystem, but given the annoyance factor of the problem, it may make sense to trick your whole /home/ingo onto a temporary filesystem (from where of course you will be free to create links to directories that reside on the read-only filesystem). Andras I tried that already. I was mounting the entire /home/ingo folder to a tmpfs. That way I didn't have all files I needed available. All system settings seemd to be gone. After getting the data partition to auto mount -rw I made a link to the .ICEauthority file. Didn't help. Maybe mounting drives comes later in the upstart order. I should check that out. Ingo with the help of Dan Wilcox I got pretty close to start my system read only however I'm still getting a nasty nagscreen which I have to click away while starting up. I really need this machine to start up automatically with a read only filesystem. The error is pretty much known in the internet forums. However I havn't found a workaraound for a read only filesystem: could not update ICEauthory file /home/ingo/.ICEauthory /etc/fstab looks like this: file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procnodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 # /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation UUID=6f3bcc50-4957-46a6-91d5-c8f5bbf77578 /boot ext3ro 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=6a94f9f8-6ee2-4e98-b57f-e2353b916b39 / ext3ro 0 0 /dev/sda3 /home/ingo/data ext3rw,user,noauto 0 2 precode tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults 0 0 tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs defaults 0 0 tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /code/pre Also, sda3 is not mounting automatically if I set it to auto. I was trying to put the .ICEauthory file to the third partition and replace the original one with a link. I would appreciate it a lot if anybody had an idea how to eliminate the .ICEauthory problem. Thank you, Ingo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 09:22 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: actually, it seems that the .pdsettings are loaded on start up -- no? so wouldn't that make them a sort of script too - in a sense? yes, it's a script in a declarative language, with a very minimalistic feature set. it's not what i would call a script in everyday life (which for me is usually very imperative). in a sense everything is a script. sure if we 'go wide' on this I suppose even the Bible is a script - for some people... ;) yes, I was only interested in creating a workflow that would make testing plugin~ smoother no big deal about not being able to set -flags persistently that's why i was wondering... .pdsettings gets loaded on startup - no? yes so, if I make changes directly to this file in gedit won't those changes be loaded as well? sure; that's the point of a configuration file. though i don't get your point. if you have a shell script like: snip #!/bin/sh pd -path /path/to/nowhere -lib rary /snip and you run this script, then Pd will persistently add /path/to/nowhere to it's search-path and it will persistently try to load the rary lib. every single time you run the script. if you open the script in gedit, and change the nowhere to anywhere, then the Pd will persistently add /path/to/anywhere whenever started from this script. you can then ignore the pdsettings. but you can have multiple scripts with different AND still persistent configuration settings, that don't interfere with each other and you don't have to fiddle around with the configuration-switcher hack. right -- the script idea sounds like a good idea but not how I want to work right now I launch PdX from my Gnome-do dock thanks again for your PdX lessons - they help me understand the difference between Max and Pd :) my lessons are not PdX lessons; they are Pd-vanilla lessons; fortunately they also apply to PdX. OK then...thanks for the Pd-vanilla lessons! :) == also, I found some other bugs/issues in [plugin~] see attached file for info where do you have this helpfile from? I've been working on testing plugin~ and ladspa~ and dssi~ so I can't remember exactly in all my downloads, compiles and testing where that might have come from but what's odd is how that bind subpatch appeared out of nowhere and that I'm using it as a .help file I'll replace this with one from the svn http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/plugin~/plugin~-help.pd?view=log it seems to be unrelated to mine. i have not found any traces of bind and the like in the source-code for plugin~.c have i fixed the wrong code? === plugin~: Delayorama print: port in control Random seed 0 1000 looks good, doesn't it? er, sure if it matched the console report (when plugin~ is sent [info]) it would look even better! ;) is this a bug or known issue? error: [print]: close-paren without open-paren oops; seems there is a problem with displaying symbols with parenthesis. I'm assuming here that not all LADSPA plugs send info with parentheses? so this would be a problem only for those plugs that send data with parentheses ?? also, I also noticed that I can't use a number in the [print] external in my current version of PdX that I'm working in without causing the error: 'expected symbol' but in the latest version of PdX I can use a number as well as a symbol in [print] i don't seem to have this problem here (though i don't have the delayorama plugin; I've attached it - see if this works for you? and the invada_mono_tube_module_0_1 works just fine (with pd-vanilla 0.42.6) ***do you have any info on how params are listed in [info]-[plugin~] versus [analyseplugin foo] in the term? how does one understand what to name the params when controlling a plugin? delayorama_1402.so.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] play mp3 file and create graphical front end interface
regarding mp3 your friend is [readanysf~] by August Black. Packages for linux and mac. http://aug.ment.org/readanysf/download.php cannot really help about the GUI issue, but something nice could be achieved using Processing for the GUI communicating OSC with Pd. -- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:42:10 +0700 From: Adityo Pratomo quietdi...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] play mp3 file and create graphical front end interface To: PD List Pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktinw0cbn0svmawm9qtj8bmme1mpclmlthz5fw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All, I'm currently working with my sister for a project that will involve creating a simple remix tool, in which a song will be played, and the user can create additional sounds on top of that song, recording it and thus create his/her own version of the song. I've done with the basic of the tool, it's now operational. However, I have some questions: 1. Can I load an mp3 file? I use readsf~ and I think it can only read wav and aiff file 2. Can we create a graphical front end using HTML? Or are we restricted to GrIPD to create a more informative graphical front end? If so, can grIPD work on Mac OSX, beacuse it's the OS that we're working in, and the GrIPD website don't show any information of installing it in Mac OSX. Many thanks for your help :) Regards, Didit -- mataharipertama.wordpress.com lunchboxavlab.wordpress.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20100611/d3b1795b/attachment-0001.htm -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] missing tcl library pd-0.42-5 eeebuntu 4.0
Thanks for the information. Because there were no versions of tk8.*-dev in synaptic nor available with aptitude I had to download and install manually: Error dependency not satisfiable for all versions I tried. Only Tcl8.5-dev could get installed but did't fix the problem. Hmmm... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino windoze
Quick question: what must one do to be able to use Pduino on windows? Is there a USB serial port driver that has to be installed? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 94: Is it finished? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino windoze
Derek Holzer wrote: Quick question: what must one do to be able to use Pduino on windows? Is there a USB serial port driver that has to be installed? The same driver that Arduino needs, it's provided with the Arduino distribution in arduino-0018\drivers\FTDI USB Drivers. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tabread~ demo in WebPd
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:18 PM, chrism ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Here's a new small demo of [tabread~] and some other dsp objects working in the browser: http://mccormick.cx/dev/webpd/demos/xmen-sample-looper/index.html Here's a video (seems to play ok in Firefox): http://mccormick.cx/webpd-tabread~.ogvhttp://mccormick.cx/webpd-tabread%7E.ogv I'm really excited about the future of this project. Also, this is probably elementary, but is it possible to highlight an array like this in regular Pd? --Stefán ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Blank Pages session - France - Marseille - 10 of July 2010
Bonjour à tous les pd utilisateurs (french and english) Dear pd user Blank Pages - Performance : 60'00'' Pure Data/Max MSP Blank Page No load/No Save The next Blank Pages will run under the apero Codelab # 8 in Marseille (France) - 10 July 2010 Time : 9pm - 10pm (Rendez-vous 8pm) for more informations, see below. La prochaine session de la performance Blank Pages se déroulera dans le cadre de l'apéro Codelab #8 à Marseille le 10 Juillet 2010. Les horaires 21h00 - 22h00 (Rendez-vous 20h00) Plus d'informations dans la suite du mél. We have only 6 places for the session Nous avons uniquement 6 places de disponibles pour la session Pour participer à la Blank Pages, envoyez un e-mail avec vos noms et prénoms à : thomas_thi...@laposte.net To participate send an e-mail with your name, surname to : thomas_thi...@laposte.net ZINC : http://www.zinclafriche.org ZINC Friche la Belle de Mai 41, rue Jobin 13 003 Marseille Apéro Codelab #8 - Marseille Talks - Workshop - Concerts - Performances - Installations Présentations - Atelier - Concerts - Performances - Installations Here the programm : Atelier - workshop (gratuit - free) – 13h00 – 17h00 : Construisez votre logiciel son et Vidéo sous Pure Data animé par François Parra et Thomas Thiery Build your own software (sound and video) under Pure Data - Animated by François Parra and Thomas Thiery Places limitées - places limited Inscriptions - subsrciption : magalie.herbert (at) lafriche (dot) org Présentations - Talk - 17h30 - 21h30 : 17h15 : Emoc : Présentation de Codelab http://emoc.org 17h30 : Adrien Merer : Sons en mouvement sans spatialisation http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/article28.html 18h00 : Tomek Jarolim : Invisibles http://www.tomek.fr/pages/works/2009/01/0index.html 18h30 : Jérôme Abel : Eol Force 5 http://impala.utopia.free.fr/travaux/?id=27 19h00 : Peter Sinclair : Road Music Autosync http://nujus.net/~petesinc/roadmusic_autosync/index.html 19h30 : Collectif 201 : La boîte http://www.myspace.com/collectif201 20h00 : Adelin Schweitzer et Biogene.fr : Light Painting http://www.deletere.org Concerts and performances - 21h00 - 24h00 : 21h00 : Miller Blank : Blank Pages http://blankpages.fr 22h10 : Thomas Thiery : 10 Minutes http://www.th-th.fr/10-minutes 22h25 : Collectif 201 : Short time http://www.myspace.com/collectif201 22h45 :Charles Bascou : Dynamax 23h10 : Julien Bayle aka protofuse : Live protodeck http://www.julienbayle.net/diy/protodeck/ 23h45 : Patrice Colet : nykto http://megalego.free.fr Installations – 17h30 – 24h00 : Pierce Warnecke : Data Decay http://piercewarnecke.blogspot.com Adelin Schweitzer : Light Painting http://www.deletere.org Organisé conjointement avec le ZINC Friche Belle de Mai à Marseille, Thomas Thiery, Jonathan Attar, François Parra, Charlotte Benedittini. De plus amples informations sont disponible à cette adresse : More Informations, here : http://codelab.fr/+/apero-codelab-08 -- Miller Blank ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 10:36 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: plugin~: Delayorama print: port in control Random seed 0 1000 looks good, doesn't it? er, sure if it matched the console report (when plugin~ is sent [info]) it would look even better! ;) it reports all relevant information. is this a bug or known issue? error: [print]: close-paren without open-paren oops; seems there is a problem with displaying symbols with parenthesis. I'm assuming here that not all LADSPA plugs send info with parentheses? so this would be a problem only for those plugs that send data with parentheses correct. anyhow, when i try your plugin i get: snip plugin~: Delayorama a: port in control Random seed 0 1000 a: port in control Input gain (dB) -96 24 a: port in control Feedback (%) 0 100 a: port in control Number of taps 2 128 a: port in control First delay (s) 0 5 a: port in control Delay range (s) 0.0001 6 a: port in control Delay change 0.2 5 a: port in control Delay random (%) 0 100 a: port in control Amplitude change 0.2 5 a: port in control Amplitude random (%) 0 100 a: port in control Dry/wet mix 0 1 a: port in audio Input 0 1 a: port out audio Output 0 1 /snip looks good to me. ?? i don't seem to have this problem here (though i don't have the delayorama plugin; I've attached it - see if this works for you? and the invada_mono_tube_module_0_1 works just fine (with pd-vanilla 0.42.6) ***do you have any info on how params are listed in [info]-[plugin~] versus [analyseplugin foo] in the term? how does one understand what to name the params when controlling a plugin? the message is: port symbol:direction symbol:type symbol:name float:lowerlimit float:upperlimit with symbol:direction being either in or out with symbol:type being control or audio with symbol:name being the name of the port (e.g. Amplitude random (%)) and lower/upperlimit define the valid range of the value. for controlling, you use control symbol:name float:value symbol:name is not case-sensitive, and it tries to find a simple match. e.g. Amplitude random (%) can be controlled with amp or AMPLItude or Amplitude random (%). it will take the first port that matches, so if you have parameters FrequencyUpper and FrequencyLower, then freq will match FrequencyUpper, in order to conrol the other param you have to use at least frequencyl also, I also noticed that I can't use a number in the [print] external in my current version of PdX that I'm working in without causing the error: 'expected symbol' but in the latest version of PdX I can use a number as well as a symbol in [print] well, you can use [print :1], if you want to stay compatible with e.g. Pd-vanilla. mfgasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwSNM0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRhdACgpld4N/mRShDv/OT6p9Z8D/MT MyMAn0b1mNdDPvlGn8FuMOf7Fp4iNhZ4 =v7Gc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OpenLab OpenNight #6: Weds 16th June, 8pm-midnight: The Bethnal Green Working Men's Club
Sorry for cross-posting, please forward everywhere. The next OpenLab OpenNight is scheduled for Weds 16th June 8pm-midnight: The Bethnal Green Working Men's Club (Free Entry) As usual everyone is free to join in just get in touch or add your name on the WIKI. (http://www.pawfal.org/openlabwiki/index.php?page=OpenNight). Line up so far is: * Rob Munro: (PD video stuff) * Lea Nicholson: (Supercollider+WiiMote) * HYLICS: (1.4.2 mad [Nag around several investigations the hallucinations! dataPure) * Chun Lee: CMOS Noise (sound toys made with CMOS chips) * Claude Heiland-Allen: KJHF preview (hyperbiblical brainfuck, abstract visual code unfinished as of 6th June, could also talk/explain how it works) * Yaxu: (Tidal + Acid sketching) * Asscream: (con(fusion)) Hope to see you there ... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_opencv and pdp_opencv for Mac OSX 10.6 ???
hello, a remote friend needs these libraries for Mac OSX 10.6 Leopard, does anybody compiled them on such a machine, following the instructions from : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv ?? ( i hope the instructions are right, it was only tested on OSX 10.5 ) unfortunately, we don't have such a machine to compile here. or Hans, is there a way to have remote access to such a platform? salaam, sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 06/11/2010 09:22 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: error: [print]: close-paren without open-paren oops; seems there is a problem with displaying symbols with parenthesis. i don't seem to have this problem here (though i don't have the delayorama plugin; and the invada_mono_tube_module_0_1 works just fine (with pd-vanilla 0.42.6) close-paren without open-paren is a GridFlow error message. The code for parsing nested-lists interferes with the [print] emulation that replaces the original [print]. The latest GridFlow renames the old [print] to [pd/print]. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Kim Cascone wrote: I'm assuming here that not all LADSPA plugs send info with parentheses? so this would be a problem only for those plugs that send data with parentheses ?? yes, only if they use GridFlow's [print]. also, I also noticed that I can't use a number in the [print] external in my current version of PdX that I'm working in without causing the error: 'expected symbol' but in the latest version of PdX I can use a number as well as a symbol in [print] ok, I'd like more info about this one, because I've never seen it and it sounds terrible. which versions of pd-extended and of gridflow ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 05:26 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: ok, I'd like more info about this one, because I've never seen it and it sounds terrible. which versions of pd-extended and of gridflow ? older Pd versions would not allow numeric arguments to [print]. newer versions seem to do allow it. i don't think that the problem is related to GF. fgasmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwSZJAACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSToQCfcu6EOeRYRsWagopUoBo9flp9 ALYAmgKasgqTEIFiVWZduovOcpKvl7Gk =6Nj5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 05:13 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: close-paren without open-paren is a GridFlow error message. The code for parsing nested-lists interferes with the [print] emulation that replaces the original [print]. The latest GridFlow renames the old [print] to [pd/print]. but the message in question had open-parent and close-paren. so why does it throw the error. furthermore, the parenthesis only appeared within a symbol. why does gf's print try to parse a symbol as a nested list? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwSZTEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTdgACfSgGwoJbYZvlgfsRm4k5bFFq/ /VIAoIfX5whv8hIunLk85jjFWnJrAvAZ =v/wT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Possible to mask a rectangle with a rectangle using GEM?
I am trying to mask [rectangle] using GEM with another smaller [rectangle] (that controls the first rectangle's alpha value wherever it is placed) in order to create an adjustable rectangle outline (that has a border of my desired thickness). I noticed that you can choose [draw line( and [width $1( for a rectangle but the maximum thickness of the line is much too small. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas? Or maybe there's an object like [disk] (using 4 segments) but with the ability to adjust the height and width just like [rectangle] Cheers! Ryan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Possible to mask a rectangle with a rectangle using GEM?
hello, you can put an image texture with a rectangle made of alpha pixels, or draw an alpha rectangle using gridflow and then load it as a texture with #to_pix, or snap two rectangles with different colors, and turn to alpha all pixels matching the inner rectangle. Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 - Ryan Trigg ryan.tr...@gmail.com a écrit : I am trying to mask [rectangle] using GEM with another smaller [rectangle] (that controls the first rectangle's alpha value wherever it is placed) in order to create an adjustable rectangle outline (that has a border of my desired thickness). I noticed that you can choose [draw line( and [width $1( for a rectangle but the maximum thickness of the line is much too small. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas? Or maybe there's an object like [disk] (using 4 segments) but with the ability to adjust the height and width just like [rectangle] Cheers! Ryan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Possible to mask a rectangle with a rectangle using GEM?
Patrice, Thanks for your reply, sounds like interesting options (especially the snapping two rectangles together)...could you be more specific with instructions on what objects to use? Pardon my novice GEM skills. Merci! Ryan On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM, patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: hello, you can put an image texture with a rectangle made of alpha pixels, or draw an alpha rectangle using gridflow and then load it as a texture with #to_pix, or snap two rectangles with different colors, and turn to alpha all pixels matching the inner rectangle. Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 - Ryan Trigg ryan.tr...@gmail.com a écrit : I am trying to mask [rectangle] using GEM with another smaller [rectangle] (that controls the first rectangle's alpha value wherever it is placed) in order to create an adjustable rectangle outline (that has a border of my desired thickness). I noticed that you can choose [draw line( and [width $1( for a rectangle but the maximum thickness of the line is much too small. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas? Or maybe there's an object like [disk] (using 4 segments) but with the ability to adjust the height and width just like [rectangle] Cheers! Ryan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Kim Cascone wrote: I'm assuming here that not all LADSPA plugs send info with parentheses? so this would be a problem only for those plugs that send data with parentheses ?? yes, only if they use GridFlow's [print]. so there is a pd [print] and a GridFlow [print] object? is there a way to use pd's [print] object instead of the GF one? also, I also noticed that I can't use a number in the [print] external in my current version of PdX that I'm working in without causing the error: 'expected symbol' but in the latest version of PdX I can use a number as well as a symbol in [print] ok, I'd like more info about this one, because I've never seen it and it sounds terrible. which versions of pd-extended and of gridflow ? Pd version 0.41-4extended GridFlow 9.9 I'm using an older version of PdX because I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 still and unable to install the newest PdX due to dep issues which I don't have time to chase down right now _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT] Laptop Tripod Stand
Hello everyone, perhaps this is off-topic but, Has anyone use one of these: http://www.pyleaudio.com/itemdetail.asp?model=PLPTS2 http://www.pyleaudio.com/itemdetail.asp?model=PLPTS3 ? I am about to buy one, but am concerned that the tray is not detachable, that it is not sturdy enough or that it won't fit in lugagge... if anyone has tried one, let me know... best, J -- Jaime E Oliver LR www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 10:36 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: plugin~: Delayorama print: port in control Random seed 0 1000 looks good, doesn't it? er, sure if it matched the console report (when plugin~ is sent [info]) it would look even better! ;) it reports all relevant information. ah...I now see why you say that it reports 'all relevant info' given the console info you posted below because I've been (unknowlingly) using the GridFlow [print] and I'm missing this info [see attached patch] I tested this with both [pd/print] and [print] and here are the results: using the [print] object [info] reports to console: a: port in control Random seed 0 1000 error: [print a]: close-paren without open-paren error: [print a]: close-paren without open-paren a: port in control Number of taps 2 128 error: [print a]: close-paren without open-paren error: [print a]: close-paren without open-paren a: port in control Delay change 0.2 5 error: [print a]: close-paren without open-paren a: port in control Amplitude change 0.2 5 error: [print a]: close-paren without open-paren a: port in control Dry/wet mix 0 1 a: port in audio Input 0 1 a: port out audio Output 0 1 using the [pd/print] object [info] reports to console: b: port in control Random seed 0 1000 b: port in control Input gain (dB) -96 24 b: port in control Feedback (%) 0 100 b: port in control Number of taps 2 128 b: port in control First delay (s) 0 5 b: port in control Delay range (s) 0.0001 6 b: port in control Delay change 0.2 5 b: port in control Delay random (%) 0 100 b: port in control Amplitude change 0.2 5 b: port in control Amplitude random (%) 0 100 b: port in control Dry/wet mix 0 1 b: port in audio Input 0 1 b: port out audio Output 0 1 this is really confusing for people using [print] not knowing they are using the GridFlow external instead of the standard Pd version how do we disentangle this and make it obvious? and why isn't there a GridFlow [print] external called [gf_print] instead? is this a bug or known issue? error: [print]: close-paren without open-paren oops; seems there is a problem with displaying symbols with parenthesis. I'm assuming here that not all LADSPA plugs send info with parentheses? so this would be a problem only for those plugs that send data with parentheses correct. anyhow, when i try your plugin i get: snip plugin~: Delayorama a: port in control Random seed 0 1000 a: port in control Input gain (dB) -96 24 a: port in control Feedback (%) 0 100 a: port in control Number of taps 2 128 a: port in control First delay (s) 0 5 a: port in control Delay range (s) 0.0001 6 a: port in control Delay change 0.2 5 a: port in control Delay random (%) 0 100 a: port in control Amplitude change 0.2 5 a: port in control Amplitude random (%) 0 100 a: port in control Dry/wet mix 0 1 a: port in audio Input 0 1 a: port out audio Output 0 1 /snip looks good to me. yes and this matches the analyseplugin foo data ?? i don't seem to have this problem here (though i don't have the delayorama plugin; I've attached it - see if this works for you? and the invada_mono_tube_module_0_1 works just fine (with pd-vanilla 0.42.6) ***do you have any info on how params are listed in [info]-[plugin~] versus [analyseplugin foo] in the term? how does one understand what to name the params when controlling a plugin? the message is: port symbol:direction symbol:type symbol:name float:lowerlimit float:upperlimit with symbol:direction being either in or out with symbol:type being control or audio with symbol:name being the name of the port (e.g. Amplitude random (%)) and lower/upperlimit define the valid range of the value. for controlling, you use control symbol:name float:value symbol:name is not case-sensitive, and it tries to find a simple match. e.g. Amplitude random (%) can be controlled with amp or AMPLItude or Amplitude random (%). it will take the first port that matches, so if you have parameters FrequencyUpper and FrequencyLower, then freq will match FrequencyUpper, in order to conrol the other param you have to use at least frequencyl thanks a million for this :) -- let me chew on this info today and I'll see if I have any more questions also, I also noticed that I can't use a number in the [print] external in my current version of PdX that I'm working in without causing the error: 'expected symbol' but in the latest version of PdX I can use a number as well as a symbol in [print] well, you can use [print :1], if you want to stay compatible with e.g. Pd-vanilla. ok -- a good tip -- thanks again! mfgasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwSNM0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRhdACgpld4N/mRShDv/OT6p9Z8D/MT
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 11:34 -0700, Kim Cascone wrote: this is really confusing for people using [print] not knowing they are using the GridFlow external instead of the standard Pd version I fully agree with you. I find replacing built-in vanilla object classes a rather bad habit and quite confusing. I don't see a valid reason for doing that. Since one needs to load 'gridflow' anyway to use GridfFlow, why not simply put a Gridflow specific print object when needed? how do we disentangle this and make it obvious? and why isn't there a GridFlow [print] external called [gf_print] instead? Yeah, I cannot understand that either. Too bad there are also other examples of libraries replacing built-in classes around (e.g. zexy). Also too bad we both seem to disagree with whom I consider the most Pd-savvy developers in the community. Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 11:34 -0700, Kim Cascone wrote: this is really confusing for people using [print] not knowing they are using the GridFlow external instead of the standard Pd version I fully agree with you. I find replacing built-in vanilla object classes a rather bad habit and quite confusing. I don't see a valid reason for doing that. Since one needs to load 'gridflow' anyway to use GridfFlow, why not simply put a Gridflow specific print object when needed? coming from Max-landia it would most likely be done as follows: [print] = standard object ships with both Pd-vanilla and extended [gf_print] = print object shipped with the GridFlow libraries and _only_ called when [gf_print] is instantiated in a patch consider the [prepend foo] object and jasch's [_] object the do the same thing but are named differently so there is no collision in name-space confusion in which lib to load from first etc how do we disentangle this and make it obvious? and why isn't there a GridFlow [print] external called [gf_print] instead? Yeah, I cannot understand that either. Too bad there are also other examples of libraries replacing built-in classes around (e.g. zexy). we need to make a list of these or is there a place that this has already been done? Also too bad we both seem to disagree with whom I consider the most Pd-savvy developers in the community. I say let's put that aside and just work to make sure all PdX objects/libs work in a logical concise manner :) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] starting automatically read only (Ubuntu 10.04)
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.comwrote: If the file's contents have to be preserved between sessions, it's breaking the read only system paradigm. (You may still be able to use an usb drive for this purpose?) It's actually working fine writing edited data to the rw sda3 partition where some folders have been linked to. If the file can be recreated with the same content at each startup, i'd think about how to trick it to be on a temporary writable filesystem. I suppose we cannot change the default path for this file, and i'm not sure if you can a have link in your read only filesystem (/home/ingo) pointing to a yet-to-be-created file on a temporary filesystem, but given the annoyance factor of the problem, it may make sense to trick your whole /home/ingo onto a temporary filesystem (from where of course you will be free to create links to directories that reside on the read-only filesystem). Andras I tried that already. I was mounting the entire /home/ingo folder to a tmpfs. That way I didn't have all files I needed available. All system settings seemd to be gone. After getting the data partition to auto mount -rw I made a link to the .ICEauthority file. Didn't help. Maybe mounting drives comes later in the upstart order. I should check that out. Ingo Well, when you mount your whole home to a tmpfs you have to copy all those needed files and system settings on it, and if you can, you have to save them back to permanent storage before shutdown. Automounting drives from fstab may happen sooner or later during startup, but the system is surely capable of mounting and temp-filesystems from the moment the kernel is alive, and you can make things happen at a given moment in the boot order by adding it to the right place in /etc/init.d/ Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 2 released!
Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1: * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip (Carbon) * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights: * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Downloading --- You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource BUGS Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there: http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How I got [hid] working with mouse on Ubuntu Lucid
Works like a charm. On 06/10/2010 10:11 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: On Jun 10, 2010, at 5:48 PM, ailo wrote: Does http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot work for you still? If you like I can update the howto later, once I'm more comfortable with the udev rules. Well, I wrote it from old notes I had but I didn't test it at the time ... obviously a mistake. Now I updated and tested it with the version of Ubuntu I have (Karmic). Check it now: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot Also, you don't need to ask permission to update the wiki. Just go ahead and if there are any problems we can always revert to an older version. I may have written it, but everyone should be able to to update the content and my stupid mistakes (such as this one). Dan Wilcox danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 2 released!
HI Folks, i installed pd 0.42.5 in ubuntu 10.04 for my students, the .deb works and pd installer say: install done...Well... when i try run pd not work, no icon, i tried with terminal LD_PRELOAD= etc and dont work I installed all the updates, libv4, etc... I work with 9.04 and the old release of pd... works fine A little review José 2010/6/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1: * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip (Carbon) * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights: * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Downloading --- You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource BUGS Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there: http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 2 released!
Thanks Hans-Christoph! If you keep this up I'm going to have do some work. Cheers Dafydd On 2010-06-11, at 5:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2! Fixed since 0.42.5-rc1: * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and pidip (Carbon) * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights: * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit) * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Downloading --- You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html You can get the source and build it yourself here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource BUGS Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there: http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 2 released!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ola! On 06/11/2010 11:02 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: HI Folks, i installed pd 0.42.5 in ubuntu 10.04 for my students, the .deb works and pd installer say: install done...Well... when i try run pd not work, no icon, i tried with terminal LD_PRELOAD= etc and dont work I installed all the updates, libv4, etc... what does not work? it would be good to be a bit more specific. try running from cmmdline, and see what you get there. gmaser IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwSvXcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQ8iwCdHXDmgXieX3nPlgBecr7RRPx5 mFEAni+0TnpCccEeG7TYdMK//A8zoW7P =R2zq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2010 08:50 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: [print] = standard object ships with both Pd-vanilla and extended [gf_print] = print object shipped with the GridFlow libraries and _only_ called when [gf_print] is instantiated in a patch why would it. (i guess that) gf's [print] is meant as a fully compatible [print], with some added features. yes but collision in name space is really confusing for the user most users should never notice (unless in a pleasant way). I noticed the difference in a not so pleasant way :) in the specific case here, i consider the behaviour of gf's print to be a bug, is [print] GridFlow or is [pd/print] GridFlow I'm totally confused now which should be fixed (just like zexy's pack/unpack). I'll make a note of this - thanks for the heads-up however, i consider the inability of gf's [print] to print everything correctly a way less important problem that an object (like plugin~) that keeps crashing the entire system. that crash only happened for me with an old version of the Gem library and seemed to go away once I compiled the new version and loaded it into usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem and of course what do we make of things like zexy's [tabread4] and [wrap] objects? (i just use zexy because i know it well; i'm sure it applies to a number of libs) I have yet to explore the zexy lib I'm still trying to get [plugin~] sorted out so I can finish the FOSS chapter on hosting plugins fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwSvxQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSnzACgyDfjr0GD2HW0VfFEuOQLom55 iocAn2xymReyRFY15iMQIGbKcZvTJU8y =50ul -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Possible to mask a rectangle with a rectangle using GEM?
Hello, You have several possibilities to do what you are looking for : - use (as Patrick describe) two rectangles to create a mask (with [gemframebuffer], [pix_snap] and [pix_buffer], [pix_buffer_read], [pix_buffer_write]) then [pix_mask] or [pix_multiply]; - use four [rectangle]s to build 'lines' of the rectangle; - use GLSL to create the mask and the final image. Surely, there are other ways (like openGL objects with GEM for example)... See in help browser examples GEM (in Pd-extended) to understand what this objects do. Hope that helps somewhat. ++ Jack Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 10:03 -0700, Ryan Trigg a écrit : Patrice, Thanks for your reply, sounds like interesting options (especially the snapping two rectangles together)...could you be more specific with instructions on what objects to use? Pardon my novice GEM skills. Merci! Ryan On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM, patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: hello, you can put an image texture with a rectangle made of alpha pixels, or draw an alpha rectangle using gridflow and then load it as a texture with #to_pix, or snap two rectangles with different colors, and turn to alpha all pixels matching the inner rectangle. Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 - Ryan Trigg ryan.tr...@gmail.com a écrit : I am trying to mask [rectangle] using GEM with another smaller [rectangle] (that controls the first rectangle's alpha value wherever it is placed) in order to create an adjustable rectangle outline (that has a border of my desired thickness). I noticed that you can choose [draw line( and [width $1( for a rectangle but the maximum thickness of the line is much too small. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas? Or maybe there's an object like [disk] (using 4 segments) but with the ability to adjust the height and width just like [rectangle] Cheers! Ryan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: most users should never notice (unless in a pleasant way). if you instantiate a [print] object and don't know whether you are loading a buggy GridFlow [print] object or a working Pd [print] object then how is this logical, clear or concise? doesn't it make more sense to differentiate the two by calling one [gf_print] and the other [print]? wouldn't this be more (in your words) 'imperative' behavior? this way if I want to use a property of the GridFlow [print] object for some reason I know I can call it using its name ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
I am now clear on which [print] object belongs to GridFlow I tried to get the .help file for the [print] and got the following: tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/gf.print.pd and failed sorry, couldn't find help patch for gf.print.pd so it seems that [print] is actually 'gf.print.pd' while [pd/print] is actually print.pd not too confusing! ;) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
Kim Cascone wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 06/11/2010 08:50 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: [print] = standard object ships with both Pd-vanilla and extended [gf_print] = print object shipped with the GridFlow libraries and _only_ called when [gf_print] is instantiated in a patch why would it. (i guess that) gf's [print] is meant as a fully compatible [print], with some added features. yes but collision in name space is really confusing for the user Yes it's like which [democracy] is the one in effect today? I made an object [which] that tries to tell you but it seems unstable. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
true, only someone wanting to take over should override some basic pd objects no? that's not bad spirit really, that's the shit where we are, everybody wanting to be the kalif hey ? you can understand why there's no pd community salaaam, sevy Kim Cascone wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: most users should never notice (unless in a pleasant way). if you instantiate a [print] object and don't know whether you are loading a buggy GridFlow [print] object or a working Pd [print] object then how is this logical, clear or concise? doesn't it make more sense to differentiate the two by calling one [gf_print] and the other [print]? wouldn't this be more (in your words) 'imperative' behavior? this way if I want to use a property of the GridFlow [print] object for some reason I know I can call it using its name ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PdCon09 ISCL 2009 Brasil :Photos
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Re: [PD] plugin~ external
ydego...@gmail.com wrote: patko wrote: Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 - ydego...@gmail.com a écrit : true, only someone wanting to take over should override some basic pd objects no? Because some pd basic objects doesn't work very good. We often experience this. and so what? because your objects work better? it's just not civilized to overwrite any other's object in my opinion then you'll understand what is social engineering and respecting people in a community right? ciao, sevy to me, the pd commuity has become as a rat race since 3 years at least, when it was said it could replace MAX, but for 'free' not freedom of thought note... well exactly and become a competitive professional tool, it's just loosing all the spirit of open source here... ciao, sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ external
hmmm, in fact you are completely right, I wouldn't like that someone overwrite my objects, at least without a discussion about it. I don't know how this happen in pd-community, i'm not really a coder, but just a user that have sometimes to put the fingers in the code when there is something wrong, or something not understood; pd is a door opened to the marvellous world of C and DSP. I also wouldn't like that this door closes as the code becomes more and more cryptic, or unreadable, because of the use of too much elaborated or just undocumented code, unless someone explains it, as fully as possible. Seriously, pd is far from being a professional tool, it's educational, always the same discussion... Sayōnara, patko. - ydego...@gmail.com a écrit : true, only someone wanting to take over should override some basic pd objects no? Because some pd basic objects doesn't work very good. We often experience this. and so what? because your objects work better? lol, me! never... I just a complainer. it's just not civilized to overwrite any other's object in my opinion then you'll understand what is social engineering and respecting people in a community right? ciao, sevy to me, the pd commuity has become as a rat race since 3 years at least, when it was said it could replace MAX, but for 'free' not freedom of thought note... well exactly and become a competitive professional tool, it's just loosing all the spirit of open source here... ciao, sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
