Re: [PD] Clearing and Copying an array
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 09:59:06AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: a) pd-vanilla [tabread from] [tabwrite to ] b) zexy's [tabdump] c) iem_tab's [tab_copy] d) GridFlow's [#for 0 1024] | [t a a] | `--. [#tabread from] | | | [#tabwrite to]--' e) The BSP method: [tabplay~] | [tabwrite~] optionally in an upsampled subpatch. Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fedora 13 vs pd
On 2010-10-28 00:31, david medine wrote: Dear all, I switched operating systems to Fedora 13 yesterday and it is great, except that I cannot get Pd to address ALSA. The build goes well, no errors, and Pd is there and it looks fine, except when I go to 'Audio settings' the boxes next to input and output are empty. There are no options to select. I have installed every ALSA package that I can find, and still no joy. Any ideas? This is a sample what the console reports during configuration: per default, Pd uses OSS. you have to manually tell it to use ALSA. Menu-Media-ALSA or start Pd with -alsa. then the audio-menu should list your soundcards (that is: if you have any; can other (alsa) applications play sound?) checking tcl.h usability... yes checking tcl.h presence... yes checking for tcl.h... yes checking for main in -ltcl85... no checking for main in -ltcl8.5... yes checking for main in -ltk85... no checking for main in -ltk8.5... yes alsa= yes I find the '' before alsa to be troubling. Anyone know how to fix this? apply the attached patch, and it should go away. famdr IOhannes --- configure.in.old 2010-10-28 09:01:54.0 +0200 +++ configure.in 2010-10-28 09:02:31.0 +0200 @@ -176,7 +176,7 @@ if test `uname -s` = Linux; then dnl Ckecking for ALSA -echo alsa= $alsa +echo checking for alsa= $alsa dnl This should be fixed so Pd can use ALSA shared libraries where appropriate. if test x$alsa = xyes; then AC_CHECK_LIB(asound,snd_pcm_info,PDLIB=$PDLIB -lasound ; alsa=yes,alsa=no) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
Yes, check this: http://soundcloud.com/bemong/03-rhythm-sound-mango-drive well, the whole tune, specially at 3' 05 so those are the dub chords I'm talking about :P Sorry for not specifying before, Thanks, Marco From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktikivqu9s2jp+yba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.comaanlktikivqu9s2jp%2byba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are many ways to peel that apple, can you post an example of something similar to what you're aiming for? Cheers, ~Brandon -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
every reggae music mix since Lee Perry has been using this type of sound. I used a cheapo yamaha portasound in the early 80s to do that, plus a fat phasor effect on it. then there's a short delay on it as well with a different EQ setting. if you want to create a phasor effect in pd you either create a very short delay or (I think better) a bank of notch filters, either boost or cut. with a metro you can then slide through the frequencies with range and speed of your liking. Jurgen On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Yes, check this: http://soundcloud.com/bemong/03-rhythm-sound-mango-drive well, the whole tune, specially at 3' 05 so those are the dub chords I'm talking about :P Sorry for not specifying before, Thanks, Marco From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktikivqu9s2jp+yba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are many ways to peel that apple, can you post an example of something similar to what you're aiming for? Cheers, ~Brandon -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
Agreed, Check the help patch H15.phaser.pd and H03.band-pass.pd, I'd start with running your favorite saw chords into a bandpass filter triggered by note-on, sweep that downward. Patch that into the recirculating delay Andy described (touch of distortion with a bandpass in the delay feedback loop). Finally, add a phasor to the final output. For maximum dub, dangerously vary all important parameters. In sum you have three components: 1. Simple instrument with bandpass filter descending (and resetting) on note-on 2. Recirculating delay with slight distortion on the input, and a bandpass filter in the feedback loop 3. Phasor on output You could probably do similar any number of different ways, but this is how I'd try it. Best, ~Brandon On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:31 AM, jurgen noise@gmail.com wrote: every reggae music mix since Lee Perry has been using this type of sound. I used a cheapo yamaha portasound in the early 80s to do that, plus a fat phasor effect on it. then there's a short delay on it as well with a different EQ setting. if you want to create a phasor effect in pd you either create a very short delay or (I think better) a bank of notch filters, either boost or cut. with a metro you can then slide through the frequencies with range and speed of your liking. Jurgen On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Yes, check this: http://soundcloud.com/bemong/03-rhythm-sound-mango-drive well, the whole tune, specially at 3' 05 so those are the dub chords I'm talking about :P Sorry for not specifying before, Thanks, Marco From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktikivqu9s2jp+yba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.comaanlktikivqu9s2jp%2byba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are many ways to peel that apple, can you post an example of something similar to what you're aiming for? Cheers, ~Brandon -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:16 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Yes, check this: http://soundcloud.com/bemong/03-rhythm-sound-mango-drive well, the whole tune, specially at 3' 05 so those are the dub chords I'm talking about :P Sorry for not specifying before, I _love_ RhythmSound. His tracks are mastered in way that really deserves the term mastering. There is very much in it which makes the chords sound dubby. Many combinations of effect chains are competing with each other. I even think that many of the different chords are actually the same sound source passed through different fx chains. there is stuff like: source dry source - delay source - tape delay with frequency modulated source - reverb source - delay - reverb source - delay - phaser I wouldn't be surprised if within some of those chains even dynamic compressors were inserted. I think organ-like sounds are a good start for a source, but filtered phasor chords most certainly will do well either. I made some tracks done with the netpd instruments/effects trying to go into a similar techno dub oriented direction: http://www.romanhaefeli.net/tracks/netpd/2006-03-06_50cm_schnee.mp3 http://www.romanhaefeli.net/tracks/netpd/2006-08-15_backup_blues.mp3 The chords/fx parts are mainly done with: instruments: oxygen fx: rfxlib (mainly rodel and rphase), dynlib (dynamic processing library) The Mixer patch mx lets you create complex chains of fx, which I find is crucial for trying those dubby sounds. Cheers Roman From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: AANLkTikiVQU9S2jP +yba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are many ways to peel that apple, can you post an example of something similar to what you're aiming for? Cheers, ~Brandon -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] search in archive broken?
thanks, andy. great site! rebuilt would be great... IOhannes? marius. 2010/10/24 Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk: MarkMail seems to have an undamaged archive back to '98. http://markmail.org If the iem records are borked maybe they could be rebuilt from this, or another third party archiving source. a. On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:04:39 +0200 marius schebella marius.schebe...@gmail.com wrote: thank you! marius. João Pais wrote: This is a problem that can't be solved for now, as IO said some time ago - search the archives :) Use this motor instead, it works better http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/info.html hi, searching in the list archives I am getting results, but most of them do not contain the search terms. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/ marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
Here's a valuable document which i hope will prove helpful: http://www.submusica.com/uploads/lee_perry1.jpg Cheers! 2010/10/28 Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:16 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Yes, check this: http://soundcloud.com/bemong/03-rhythm-sound-mango-drive well, the whole tune, specially at 3' 05 so those are the dub chords I'm talking about :P Sorry for not specifying before, I _love_ RhythmSound. His tracks are mastered in way that really deserves the term mastering. There is very much in it which makes the chords sound dubby. Many combinations of effect chains are competing with each other. I even think that many of the different chords are actually the same sound source passed through different fx chains. there is stuff like: source dry source - delay source - tape delay with frequency modulated source - reverb source - delay - reverb source - delay - phaser I wouldn't be surprised if within some of those chains even dynamic compressors were inserted. I think organ-like sounds are a good start for a source, but filtered phasor chords most certainly will do well either. I made some tracks done with the netpd instruments/effects trying to go into a similar techno dub oriented direction: http://www.romanhaefeli.net/tracks/netpd/2006-03-06_50cm_schnee.mp3 http://www.romanhaefeli.net/tracks/netpd/2006-08-15_backup_blues.mp3 The chords/fx parts are mainly done with: instruments: oxygen fx: rfxlib (mainly rodel and rphase), dynlib (dynamic processing library) The Mixer patch mx lets you create complex chains of fx, which I find is crucial for trying those dubby sounds. Cheers Roman From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: AANLkTikiVQU9S2jP +yba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are many ways to peel that apple, can you post an example of something similar to what you're aiming for? Cheers, ~Brandon -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] IPA Vowel space analyzer
Hi, I was wondering how one would locate a vowel in the IPA vowel quadrangle using pd... Of course I would expect the corners of the vowel to depend on individual characteristics, but I dont know where to start. Anyone any ideas? Greetings, Ludwig ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Submitting bug reports for PD test releases
Hi all, I'm currently using Pd-0.43-0test3 that I downloaded from Miller's webpage here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html I really like the new gui look and other features but I'm experiencing a few bugs and issues. I'm wondering where the correct place to provide feedback for it is (or whether that only applies to stable releases?). I was looking at the sourceforge bug tracker ( http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070) but this seems to be related to other releases? Any information would be much appreciated Thanks, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] send audio over udp with mrpeach/udpsend~ and mrpeach/udpsend
Hello, I am doing some tests sending UDP packets to Processing and openFrameworks from PD. First I tried to send tabdumps with mrpeach/udpsend... It would be nice to use this one because I could select specific frames to send. But it seems to not accept the floats from the arrays... So, now, I am trying to do it with mrpeach/udpsend~, but I am trying to understand what are exactly the 24 bytes that begin with TAG! Any help is appreciated, josé -- http://zepadovani.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IPA Vowel space analyzer
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Ludwig Maes wrote: Hi, I was wondering how one would locate a vowel in the IPA vowel quadrangle using pd... Of course I would expect the corners of the vowel to depend on individual characteristics, but I dont know where to start. Anyone any ideas? Greetings, Ludwig I'd like to know as well... about two years ago, I made a patch to play Wikipedia's vowel samples according to three criteria (two [vradio] and one [tgl]) : 01234 6 [i][y][ɨ][ʉ][ɯ][u] 5 [ɪ][ʏ] [ʊ] 4 [e][ø] [o] 3 [ə] 2 [ɛ][œ] [ʌ][ɔ] 1 [æ] [ɐ] 0 [a][ɶ] [ɑ][ɒ] And then some more. Personally I'm mostly interested in [iyɪʏeøeœaœəuʊøʌɑ] (the nonnasals used in my own speech), but I'd like a language-independent locator too. Then for example I numbered the above like 001 = 6 0 1 = [ɶ] 200 = 4 0 0 = [ɛ] 511 = 1 1 1 = [ʏ] 531 = 5 3 1 = [ʊ] The digits are : row number, column number, subcolumn number. I'd add a fourth number that'd toggle nasals (because I need [ɛ̃̃œ̃ø̃ɑ̃ɔ̃õ] to reproduce my speech) and perhaps a fifth number that would toggle [ː] but it might be more appropriate to write them as a pair of identical vowels (especially as some of them mutate to diphtongs in my speech). I haven't looked much in the analysis part of it yet. I thought I could analyse the sound samples, extract their cepstrums, cross-fade them, resynthesise using a different envelope and tone... but I haven't tried any of that at all in the end (well, maybe I started trying it and it didn't work...). ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IPA Vowel space analyzer
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Then for example I numbered the above like 001 = 6 0 1 = [ɶ] 200 = 4 0 0 = [ɛ] 511 = 1 1 1 = [ʏ] 531 = 5 3 1 = [ʊ] sorry, I screwed that one. I had gotten the first digit backwards, and I began to fix it and didn't finish. The correct list is : 001 = 0 0 1 = [ɶ] 200 = 2 0 0 = [ɛ] 511 = 5 1 1 = [ʏ] 531 = 5 3 1 = [ʊ] else it wouldn't be consistent at all. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
Hi, On my Macbook Pro (2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo), Pd's idle CPU usage is 15-20%. This is really high for an application in idle state. I get this regardless of the version of Pd I use -- I've tested with 0.42 and 0.43 latest. The load is in the server, the GUI CPU usage seems quite low. Does anyone know why this is? Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation? Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
Hi, On 28/10/10 16:41, Jamie Bullock wrote: Pd's idle CPU usage is 15-20%. Does anyone know why this is? probably a bug.. you could try using gdb and interrupting Pd to see where it is being busy, or some profiling tool (gprof or strace or shark (?) or something else). Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation? Try turning DSP on and then off again, maybe. Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] opencv
Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. Best, Philip -- Tumblr: http://philipcunningham.tumblr.com Email: pcunningham...@googlemail.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
I get this bug since 2005 on the mac... maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication? 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org: Hi, On 28/10/10 16:41, Jamie Bullock wrote: Pd's idle CPU usage is 15-20%. Does anyone know why this is? probably a bug.. you could try using gdb and interrupting Pd to see where it is being busy, or some profiling tool (gprof or strace or shark (?) or something else). Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation? Try turning DSP on and then off again, maybe. Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Submitting bug reports for PD test releases
Hey Joe, We welcome your feedback! The easiest way to report a bug is to go to the Help menu, and choose Report a bug. That'll take you to the right place. .hc On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Joe White wrote: Hi all, I'm currently using Pd-0.43-0test3 that I downloaded from Miller's webpage here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html I really like the new gui look and other features but I'm experiencing a few bugs and issues. I'm wondering where the correct place to provide feedback for it is (or whether that only applies to stable releases?). I was looking at the sourceforge bug tracker (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070 ) but this seems to be related to other releases? Any information would be much appreciated Thanks, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
This thread comes up every year or two, try running Pd with JackOSX instead of having Pd communicate directly with OS X. You should see the Pd process decrease it's CPU usage significantly. My guess is it's a Pd- PortAudio - OS X thing. Cheers, ~Brandon On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: I get this bug since 2005 on the mac... maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication? 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org: Hi, On 28/10/10 16:41, Jamie Bullock wrote: Pd's idle CPU usage is 15-20%. Does anyone know why this is? probably a bug.. you could try using gdb and interrupting Pd to see where it is being busy, or some profiling tool (gprof or strace or shark (?) or something else). Is there anything that can be done to improve the situation? Try turning DSP on and then off again, maybe. Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, brandon zeeb wrote: This thread comes up every year or two, I'd say at least twice a year... I think I already wrote about it on pd-list this autumn, no...? But it's hard to search the archives about the frequency of that thread, as the keywords might not be consistent. I just know that the problem has existed for quite a few years and that I read about it on pd-list more than a handful of times. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: I get this bug since 2005 on the mac... maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication? You'd have to justify that. I don't think it can have to do with anything except the DSP engine and/or PortAudio (did anyone investigate this ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
sorry for the speculation. I really did not go deeper into this, I just used linux and less pd. but 20%cpu is a serious bu anyway. 2010/10/28 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: I get this bug since 2005 on the mac... maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication? You'd have to justify that. I don't think it can have to do with anything except the DSP engine and/or PortAudio (did anyone investigate this ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV reserch is based in this book... Best regards José 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppahttps://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
Seriously, use Jack, and watch the CPU usage drop significantly. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.comwrote: sorry for the speculation. I really did not go deeper into this, I just used linux and less pd. but 20%cpu is a serious bu anyway. 2010/10/28 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: I get this bug since 2005 on the mac... maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication? You'd have to justify that. I don't think it can have to do with anything except the DSP engine and/or PortAudio (did anyone investigate this ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IPA Vowel space analyzer
I had a go a number of years ago at coding an LPC-based formant detector for PD, based on the Speech Filing System from University College London. It has since remained on my to do list, since I got the object to load but there were problems in getting it working (i.e. it didn't, and crashed PD). In theory, if you can detect the peaks in a Linear Predictive Coding-derive polynomial plot, then you can determine the vowel very accurately. It would be nice to make this work - I'll dig it out and perhaps someone can help me understand why it doesn't work (and fix it). I'll dig it out and try to GDB it tonight, but I have to feed my child now. Best, Ed Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata - Original Message From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Ludwig Maes ludwig.m...@gmail.com Cc: Pd List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thu, 28 October, 2010 15:26:05 Subject: Re: [PD] IPA Vowel space analyzer On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Then for example I numbered the above like 001 = 6 0 1 = [ɶ] 200 = 4 0 0 = [ɛ] 511 = 1 1 1 = [ʏ] 531 = 5 3 1 = [ʊ] sorry, I screwed that one. I had gotten the first digit backwards, and I began to fix it and didn't finish. The correct list is : 001 = 0 0 1 = [ɶ] 200 = 2 0 0 = [ɛ] 511 = 5 1 1 = [ʏ] 531 = 5 3 1 = [ʊ] else it wouldn't be consistent at all. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
So far I have not seen anything besides help patches that explain it's use. Has anyone at all made a working patch, say a laser tracker? Anything using pix_ or pdp_ openCV stuff? From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Jose Luis Santorcuato Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09 PM To: Claude Heiland-Allen Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] opencv Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV reserch is based in this book... Best regards José 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.orgmailto:claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppahttps://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] MAX texture size and number of objects...
Luka Princic // Nova deViator n...@deviator.si: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: [gemhead] | [GEMglGetFloatv GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE] or [get max_texture_size | [gf/gl] where [ is a messagebox you click on. iirc, a [gemwin] must have been opened though. thanks Mathieu and Iohannes. both of these worked. hey, this goes on... if i make a grid 16 squares, each with a different 3840x3840 texture. how much system RAM i need and how much GPU ram? l. -- sujet est machinique! Nova deViator ¤ http://deviator.si ¤ http://skylined.org ¤ pgpYUA32h8plk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
there are already some work made with pd_opencv http://vimeo.com/8195788 i dunno what more explanations you need, just be curious and inventive ciao, sevy Pagano, Patrick wrote: So far I have not seen anything besides help patches that explain it’s use. Has anyone at all made a working patch, say a laser tracker? Anything using pix_ or pdp_ openCV stuff? *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *Jose Luis Santorcuato *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09 PM *To:* Claude Heiland-Allen *Cc:* pd-list@iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] opencv Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV reserch is based in this book... Best regards José 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org mailto:claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa https://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] MAX texture size and number of objects...
3840x3840 = 14,745,600 pixels Each pixel is 4 bytes so 14745600 * 4 = 58,982,400 bytes 16 of those would be 943,718,400 bytes The textures would probably not fit on a 1GB GPU since the VRAM is also used for the display buffers too. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Luka Princic // Nova deViator n...@deviator.si wrote: Luka Princic // Nova deViator n...@deviator.si: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: [gemhead] | [GEMglGetFloatv GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE] or [get max_texture_size | [gf/gl] where [ is a messagebox you click on. iirc, a [gemwin] must have been opened though. thanks Mathieu and Iohannes. both of these worked. hey, this goes on... if i make a grid 16 squares, each with a different 3840x3840 texture. how much system RAM i need and how much GPU ram? l. -- sujet est machinique! Nova deViator ¤ http://deviator.si ¤ http://skylined.org ¤ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] send audio over udp with mrpeach/udpsend~ and mrpeach/udpsend
Thank you very much martin... I will continue my tests... BTW... Pd-extended for mac intel has a non functional udpreceive~ (wrong architecture)... I have compiled it here, but it would be nice to see what is wrong in the provided build scripts.. josé Em 28/10/10 13:15, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca escreveu: First I tried to send tabdumps with mrpeach/udpsend... It would be nice to use this one because I could select specific frames to send. But it seems to not accept the floats from the arrays... So, now, I am trying to do it with mrpeach/udpsend~, but I am trying to understand what are exactly the 24 bytes that begin with TAG! From udpsend~.h: typedef struct _tag { /* size (bytes) */ char tag[4];/* 4 */ /*TAG!*/ char format;/* 1 */ long count; /* 4 */ char channels; /* 1 */ long framesize; /* 4 */ char reserved[2]; /* 2 */ /* pad to 16 bytes */ } t_tag;/*-*/ /* 16 */ If you use [udpreceive~] to a [tabwrite~] you shouldn't need to worry about that. You can send an [info( message to either [udpreceive~] or [udpsend~] to get the current values. Martin -- http://zepadovani.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
I would like to make a laser tracker that tracks the points from a red laser beam. I would like to see if I can use pdp_ openCV to track the laser and when I hover the laser over some video long enough it acts as a click, is this possible? Thanks for the cool link! -Original Message- From: ydego...@gmail.com [mailto:ydego...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:33 PM To: Pagano, Patrick; PD List Subject: Re: [PD] opencv there are already some work made with pd_opencv http://vimeo.com/8195788 i dunno what more explanations you need, just be curious and inventive ciao, sevy Pagano, Patrick wrote: So far I have not seen anything besides help patches that explain it's use. Has anyone at all made a working patch, say a laser tracker? Anything using pix_ or pdp_ openCV stuff? *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *Jose Luis Santorcuato *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09 PM *To:* Claude Heiland-Allen *Cc:* pd-list@iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] opencv Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV reserch is based in this book... Best regards José 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org mailto:claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa https://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] MAX texture size and number of objects...
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, chris clepper wrote: 3840x3840 = 14,745,600 pixels In practice, an image of size 3840x3840 uses a texture of size 4096x4096 by default. Do you assume that rectangular mode is available and being used ? This makes 16 777 216 pixels, or exactly 1 binary GB for all textures together (still not counting display buffers of this app and other apps) In other words, 1 073 741 824 bytes instead of 943 718 400 bytes. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
I guess my problem is getting opencv libraries installed. I can't install libhighgui-dev in Ubuntu 10.4 and it appears to be a more general problem for Ubuntu users. Whilst this might be a more OS-specific question, I wondered if anyone using Pd and Ubuntu was able to to do this and how. Philip -Original Message- From: ydegoyon at gmail.com [mailto:ydegoyon at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:33 PM To: Pagano, Patrick; PD List Subject: Re: [PD] opencv there are already some work made with pd_opencv http://vimeo.com/8195788 i dunno what more explanations you need, just be curious and inventive ciao, sevy Pagano, Patrick wrote: So far I have not seen anything besides help patches that explain it's use. Has anyone at all made a working patch, say a laser tracker? Anything using pix_ or pdp_ openCV stuff? *From:* pd-list-bounces at iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces at iem.at] *On Behalf Of *Jose Luis Santorcuato *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09 PM *To:* Claude Heiland-Allen *Cc:* pd-list at iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] opencv Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV reserch is based in this book... Best regards José 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaximus at goto10.org mailto:claudiusmaximus at goto10.org On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa https://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list at iem.at mailto:Pd-list at iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ ___ Pd-list at iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Tumblr: http://philipcunningham.tumblr.com Portfolio: http://philipcunningham.org/ Email: pcunningham...@googlemail.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] MAX texture size and number of objects...
In my use (Mac OSX) rectangle textures are always used. They can be used on Windows and Linux too. Is there a reason not to? Either way at least 1GB of RAM or VRAM will be needed just for the pixels. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, chris clepper wrote: 3840x3840 = 14,745,600 pixels In practice, an image of size 3840x3840 uses a texture of size 4096x4096 by default. Do you assume that rectangular mode is available and being used ? This makes 16 777 216 pixels, or exactly 1 binary GB for all textures together (still not counting display buffers of this app and other apps) In other words, 1 073 741 824 bytes instead of 943 718 400 bytes. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 67, Issue 106
IOhannes, Thanks for the input. What is strange is that the 'Media' tab in the Menu doesn't list any soundcard atall (not like it did on my former Ubuntu system). Also, I tried invoking Pd with the -alsa tag, but Pd told me that there is no such tag :( Still (not) working... David Dear all, I switched operating systems to Fedora 13 yesterday and it is great, except that I cannot get Pd to address ALSA. The build goes well, no errors, and Pd is there and it looks fine, except when I go to 'Audio settings' the boxes next to input and output are empty. There are no options to select. I have installed every ALSA package that I can find, and still no joy. Any ideas? This is a sample what the console reports during configuration: per default, Pd uses OSS. you have to manually tell it to use ALSA. Menu-Media-ALSA or start Pd with -alsa. then the audio-menu should list your soundcards (that is: if you have any; can other (alsa) applications play sound?) checking tcl.h usability... yes checking tcl.h presence... yes checking for tcl.h... yes checking for main in -ltcl85... no checking for main in -ltcl8.5... yes checking for main in -ltk85... no checking for main in -ltk8.5... yes alsa= yes I find the '' before alsa to be troubling. Anyone know how to fix this? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
i recall one simple way to create that effect was to use a delay as send effect and then route its output to one channel of the mixer where you could then apply the send effect, creating a loop. the delay then could go on almost forever, and be manipulated using the eq of the channel. i spent quite some time (and dope) with this back then ;-) ff Am 28.10.2010 um 12:02 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:16 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Yes, check this: http://soundcloud.com/bemong/03-rhythm-sound-mango-drive well, the whole tune, specially at 3' 05 so those are the dub chords I'm talking about :P Sorry for not specifying before, I _love_ RhythmSound. His tracks are mastered in way that really deserves the term mastering. There is very much in it which makes the chords sound dubby. Many combinations of effect chains are competing with each other. I even think that many of the different chords are actually the same sound source passed through different fx chains. there is stuff like: source dry source - delay source - tape delay with frequency modulated source - reverb source - delay - reverb source - delay - phaser I wouldn't be surprised if within some of those chains even dynamic compressors were inserted. I think organ-like sounds are a good start for a source, but filtered phasor chords most certainly will do well either. I made some tracks done with the netpd instruments/effects trying to go into a similar techno dub oriented direction: http://www.romanhaefeli.net/tracks/netpd/2006-03-06_50cm_schnee.mp3 http://www.romanhaefeli.net/tracks/netpd/2006-08-15_backup_blues.mp3 The chords/fx parts are mainly done with: instruments: oxygen fx: rfxlib (mainly rodel and rphase), dynlib (dynamic processing library) The Mixer patch mx lets you create complex chains of fx, which I find is crucial for trying those dubby sounds. Cheers Roman From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: AANLkTikiVQU9S2jP +yba55a68hjrw7cti7zrssp6q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are many ways to peel that apple, can you post an example of something similar to what you're aiming for? Cheers, ~Brandon -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ... --- Felix Obée Weichselstr. 35 12045 Berlin Phone: 0178 / 49 31 008 Phone: 030 / 55957397 Mail: fe...@amphibiousthoughts.com http://amphibiousthoughts.com http://dj.amphibiousthoughts.com --- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd 20% idle CPU usage on MBP
I don't know if this point has been raised in past appearances of this issue, but for the record: I've noticed a drop to less than 10% idle when I'm running sound out of my MOTU 896 or Ultralite rather than built-in hardware. William On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, use Jack, and watch the CPU usage drop significantly. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for the speculation. I really did not go deeper into this, I just used linux and less pd. but 20%cpu is a serious bu anyway. 2010/10/28 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: I get this bug since 2005 on the mac... maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication? You'd have to justify that. I don't think it can have to do with anything except the DSP engine and/or PortAudio (did anyone investigate this ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] MAX texture size and number of objects...
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, chris clepper wrote: In my use (Mac OSX) rectangle textures are always used. They can be used on Windows and Linux too. Is there a reason not to? Either way at least 1GB of RAM or VRAM will be needed just for the pixels. Ah, do you mean that using rectangle textures is only a coordinates thing and doesn't affect the memory layout at all, and so 3840x3840 will still be stored as 4096x4096 no matter what ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM] MAX texture size and number of objects...
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: Ah, do you mean that using rectangle textures is only a coordinates thing and doesn't affect the memory layout at all, and so 3840x3840 will still be stored as 4096x4096 no matter what ? No, rectangle textures will use pretty much the exact pixel size (usually the row packing is rounded up to the next 16 byte value for efficiency). I said you need 1GB because that is the closest value one can actually buy. 2GB would insure no paging to disk or out of VRAM though. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GridFlow on Android
Got GridFlow on Android working, with no options at all. Therefore, [#out window] does not work, and there's no other form of window output, because there is no x11, no quartz, no sdl, no aalib, no tk, no gem and no pdp (those are the seven window outputs that GF can support). Seems like we will need an 8th one, specifically for Android, unless someone gets Gem or PDP to work on that. The test I made was just to compute a matrix and print it in the console. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
hi philip, i don't remember how i compiled it, but here's my vesion for ubuntu 10.4: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1455235/pdopencv.tar.gz pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opencv
I compiled pdp_openCV not that long ago on ubuntu 10.4. I don't remember how I did it but I think that's because it was pretty straightforward and went without hitch. It all worked pretty well as I recall. No big surprises. The help patches got me started. But do you need that for a laser tracker? Seems like pix_subtract and pix_blob would do the job... Max Neupert has some nice patches using this technique IIRC: http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder You could also use pix_blob's color weight inlet effectively since you know you are looking for red. -John On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: I would like to make a laser tracker that tracks the points from a red laser beam. I would like to see if I can use pdp_ openCV to track the laser and when I hover the laser over some video long enough it acts as a click, is this possible? Thanks for the cool link! -Original Message- From: ydego...@gmail.com [mailto:ydego...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:33 PM To: Pagano, Patrick; PD List Subject: Re: [PD] opencv there are already some work made with pd_opencv http://vimeo.com/8195788 i dunno what more explanations you need, just be curious and inventive ciao, sevy Pagano, Patrick wrote: So far I have not seen anything besides help patches that explain it's use. Has anyone at all made a working patch, say a laser tracker? Anything using pix_ or pdp_ openCV stuff? *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *Jose Luis Santorcuato *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09 PM *To:* Claude Heiland-Allen *Cc:* pd-list@iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] opencv Hi, Search in torrents Learning Open CVOreilly media... the Pd OCV reserch is based in this book... Best regards José 2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org mailto:claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org On 28/10/10 17:39, Philip Cunningham wrote: Hello list, I wonder if there are any tutorials available on how to use OpenCV with Pd? I'm trying to download necessary components using the following site: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv but having very little luck. Operating system is Ubuntu 10.4. You could try the Puredyne PPA for pd-pdp-opencv (available right nownow) and pd-pix-opencv packages (available soon..) for Lucid: https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppahttps://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa https://launchpad.net/%7Epuredyne-team/+archive/ppa Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list