[PD] Capture video+audio from PD using XvidCap.
Hi! I want to record video of my session in pd. I try to use XvidCap, but there is no sound. What audio driver i need to use in pd? Thanks. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
But kids have such a shorter attention span these days D. On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more text, from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
Regarding ugly plan: Is app store 'lock-in' any different from apple's usual hardware' lock in' for laptops/desktops? Pd still runs on those platforms so why not port ipad, ipod, iphone upud, ipid etc? In any case isnt RJDJ the port for Pd to this platform anyway ? I could be wrong- not 100% On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: But kids have such a shorter attention span these days D. On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more text, from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick
Hi, I'm trying once more ubuntu on my thinkpad laptop, this time maverick. So far things are going well, pdext+jack+ardour (from source) are working, and the system didn't break down after some days of setup+work (which is more than last time). As I'm not up to date on ubuntu, I wanted to ask about suggestions for audio software suited for quality work. I would be looking for a sound editor, ladspa/lv2 effects (specially good EQs), etc. etc. Also any other sugestions for small aplications that make life easier (e.g. extra menus, file management, mp3/ogg players/converters, ...) are welcome. If anyone also uses a thinkpad and has a way of seting up the trackpoint, I would be interested to know. Thanks, João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick
The best FLOSS soundfile editor I found was Rezound, however it has not been active since 2007 so I don't know how up to date it is anymore. One huge problem was that its JACK support was/is crap. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ If you are one of those scripty kinds of kids, then you could check out snd: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ Of course the Ardour/Jamin package for multitracking and mastering is unbeatable: http://www.ardour.org/ http://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/about.html And two fun toys to play with: http://www.essej.net/sooperlooper/ (live looping) http://freqtweak.sourceforge.net/ (spectral delay) Best! Derek On 1/8/11 12:25 PM, João Pais wrote: Hi, I'm trying once more ubuntu on my thinkpad laptop, this time maverick. So far things are going well, pdext+jack+ardour (from source) are working, and the system didn't break down after some days of setup+work (which is more than last time). As I'm not up to date on ubuntu, I wanted to ask about suggestions for audio software suited for quality work. I would be looking for a sound editor, ladspa/lv2 effects (specially good EQs), etc. etc. Also any other sugestions for small aplications that make life easier (e.g. extra menus, file management, mp3/ogg players/converters, ...) are welcome. If anyone also uses a thinkpad and has a way of seting up the trackpoint, I would be interested to know. Thanks, João Pais -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 205: First work alone, then work in unusual pairs. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Capture video+audio from PD using XvidCap.
On 08/01/11 10:11, Dima Bak wrote: Hi! I want to record video of my session in pd. I try to use XvidCap, but there is no sound. What audio driver i need to use in pd? Thanks. I haven't found the perfect solution yet. Using JACK in Pd, you might try recordmydesktop or istanbul. I found recordmydesktop silently dropped frames giving out of sync jittery output, while istanbul crashed on exit but I could rescue a file from /tmp/. Recordmydesktop seems no longer developed, while istanbul has recent commits in its repository. Both encode to Ogg Theora+Vorbis format. Istanbul is based on gstreamer, so it should be possible to use gstreamer directly if you need to configure more options. http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. Cyrille Le 06/01/2011 13:28, Wallace a écrit : Hi all, I planning to do some video tracking in order to sonify some performance: a dancer and a kung fu form. I basically need to track different movements and connect them to some sounds. I'm evaluating different technologies at the moment. Kinect looks like the best way to track body movement. What's the best way to track body movements ? Is Kinect really the best solution ? What are other solutions ? Cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
I don't want to loose time to studying apple guidelines. One question is important since it was an issue with the iPhone store: is GPL compatible with this stuff? http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance best! bernardo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Regenwald 2011: workshop/installation/performance @ Club Transmediale Berlin
nice one Derek! just re-posted here: http://www.thesaddj.com/regenwald-2011-workshopinstallationperformance-club-transmediale-berlin/ M Regenwald 2011: a workshop/installation/performance in the spirit of David Tudor for Club Transmediale Berlin with Derek Holzer (USA/DE) Mads Bech Paluszewski (DK) Direct links: http://macumbista.net/?p=2018 http://www.clubtransmediale.de/ctm-festival/day-program/regenwald-2011.html *Overview* Regenwald 2011 is a contemporary re-interpretation of David Tudor?s series of compositions from the 1970?s entitled ?Rainforest?. It uses various types of sonic transducers to play live sounds through various resonant objects in the performance space, as well as through architectural features of the space itself. Additionally, an 8?8 matrix mixer allows the sound from any of the objects to be sent to any of the performers, making the whole piece an experiment in generative chaos. Regenwald 2011 will be developed in a workshop format with up to 8 participants over a period of several days. The resulting work should shift between relatively static installation-like moments and performative sections where the artists seek new relationships with the objects and each other. The audience is free to move around the performance space, engage in conversations and explore the resonant objects, thus adding new life to the rainforest. A opening night presentation will introduce the concept of Regenwald 2011 and the context of ?Schematic as Score? as seen in the works of both David Tudor and John Cage. *Documentation* A rough schematic of a previous transducer system (Regenskog 2010) can be seen here: http://macumbista.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/regnskog_notext.png Documentation of Regenskog 2010 can be found here: http://macumbista.net/?p=1840 *Dates* 28 January ? 01 February, 12-19:00 daily: Regenwald 2011 workshop in West Germany, Kottbusser Tor, Berlin 01 February 21:00: opening Regenwald 2011 presentation/performance, West Germany, Kottbusser Tor, Berlin 02 February ? 05 February 18-22:00 daily: Regenwald 2011 installation, West Germany, Kottbusser Tor, Berlin *Participate* The Regenwald 2011 workshop is open for 8 participants who will be selected and notified on or before 16 January 2011. There is no fee to participate. Applying participants should be: ?Comfortable working in a collaborative environment ?Knowledgeable in the basics of acoustics ?Proficient in one or more chosen analog or digital sound instruments and/or systems for working with sound ?Capable of bringing any equipment they require beyond the basics of the transducer system (instruments, mixers, computers, etc etc) Please send an email to regenwald2...@clubtransmediale.de by 12 January with the following information: ?Name, location and short bio (max 100 words) ?Short statement of interest (max 300 words) ?Short description of your chosen instrument or system (max 300 words) ?Links to audio/video documentation of one solo work and one collaborative work you have made *Workshop Leaders* Derek Holzer (1972) is an American sound artist living in Berlin, whose current interests include DIY analog electronics, sound art, field recording and the meeting points of electroacoustic, noise, improv and extreme music. He has played live experimental sound, as well as taught workshops in noise art technology, across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. http://www.macumbista.net Danish sound artist and cultural producer Mads Bech Paluszewski (1977) works with circuit bending, sound installations, tactile acoustics and performances from his Copenhagen base. Solo and as a member of several groups of experimental audio/visual music and performance groups, he has performed at many Nordic music and sound art festivals. He has also held several workshops in circuit bending and user driven sound installations in Denmark. *Partners* Regenwald is a join production of DISK/Club Transmediale and Tuned City/DOCK e.V. http://www.clubtransmediale.de http://www.tunedcity.net -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 172: Use `unqualified' people -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] news from the server admins
Thanks for bringing it back again! M as some of you might have noticed, puredata.info has vanished for some days, taking the mailing-lists and the website with it. the reason for the downtime was brutal aggression involving horrible things like rootkits and backdoors and whatelse. the never-sleeping puredata.info administration crew has worked countless hours (if not days) to restore the machine back to it's un-compromised state, and is happy to announce that hopefully the evil spores have been eridicated, the rootkits have been dismantled and backdoors have been locked for good. we also believe that the injection vector has been found and fixed. fgmasdr IOhannes PS: in any case, please refrain from attacking puredata.info in the future; the community's everlasting gratitude will be yours -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux script to launch JACK and Pd at once
I use the script #!/bin/bash qjackctl -s sleep 5 pdextended As I've noticed, it works either if jack is already on or not. Same goes to other applications that need jack, like ardour. Ah, no root access there. Wouldn't it be better to search for another of getting permissions, instead of running programs as root? João Hi, On 07.01.2011 20:49, Pierre Massat wrote: don't know if it made it through the storm... 2011/1/3 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Hi all! Happy new year first of all! Is there a way i can write a script that would start Jack and Pd in the proper order by clicking on a single file? I have made two simple scripts for that, one that starts jack, qjackctl and programs, that are in a text file with each program in a seperate line, and another script to stop all started programs. To use them for puredata only, rewrite the while[$1]; do done portions to start only Pd. The textfiles look like that: pdextended -rt -jack -alsamidi -inchannels 2 -outchannels 8 ardour2 And is there a way i can start both as root? (I need to use HID) I'm assuming this would be quite a big breach though. To start programs with root provileges, use gksu or gksudo for X11 programs. cu Thomas -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux script to launch JACK and Pd at once
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2011 08:49 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Is there a way i can write a script that would start Jack and Pd in the proper order by clicking on a single file? Pd=0.43 should automatically start jack if needed. afair, the relevant code is also in PdX And is there a way i can start both as root? (I need to use HID) I'm why do you need to be root to use HID? i suggest reading the documentation on unix groups and udev. btw, this is a recurring topic on this list, so you might have luck using the mail-archives. assuming this would be quite a big breach though. security wise: yes. script wise, it would be rather simple. And now, totally off topic, are we allowed to start conversations about topics that aren't in any way related to Pd at all? You 're about the only group of highly computer-literate people that i know, and there 's always a question or two that i'd like to ask about the directions the digital world is aiming at. well, there is the pd-ot list, which is meant for this kind of talk. otoh, there are not so many pd-ot subscribers as there are pd-list subscribers. however, you should follow the netiquette and not mix unrelated questions ;-) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0oeJQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTbUwCfaIdS59VaFprxO+RHvl2YIkYx WrMAoIDoLjF5ThwPN3kxojx5tqC5rv1p =y0H4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Capture video+audio from PD using XvidCap.
the most consistent way to get audio and video for me was to use a scan converter and go Sh-vhs into a DVcam and pull the audio off out of headphones into the same cam cheers~ pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Claude Heiland-Allen [cla...@goto10.org] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:50 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Capture video+audio from PD using XvidCap. On 08/01/11 10:11, Dima Bak wrote: Hi! I want to record video of my session in pd. I try to use XvidCap, but there is no sound. What audio driver i need to use in pd? Thanks. I haven't found the perfect solution yet. Using JACK in Pd, you might try recordmydesktop or istanbul. I found recordmydesktop silently dropped frames giving out of sync jittery output, while istanbul crashed on exit but I could rescue a file from /tmp/. Recordmydesktop seems no longer developed, while istanbul has recent commits in its repository. Both encode to Ogg Theora+Vorbis format. Istanbul is based on gstreamer, so it should be possible to use gstreamer directly if you need to configure more options. http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick
ardour ceclia zsynaddsubfx audacity hydrogen From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of João Pais [jmmmp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:25 AM To: PD-List Subject: [PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick Hi, I'm trying once more ubuntu on my thinkpad laptop, this time maverick. So far things are going well, pdext+jack+ardour (from source) are working, and the system didn't break down after some days of setup+work (which is more than last time). As I'm not up to date on ubuntu, I wanted to ask about suggestions for audio software suited for quality work. I would be looking for a sound editor, ladspa/lv2 effects (specially good EQs), etc. etc. Also any other sugestions for small aplications that make life easier (e.g. extra menus, file management, mp3/ogg players/converters, ...) are welcome. If anyone also uses a thinkpad and has a way of seting up the trackpoint, I would be interested to know. Thanks, João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd/veejay/vims
Hi i have got a version of Veejay finally working and it has some things that seem to play nice with pd called VIMS I see that Tom schouten wrote some of this, so i am wondering if anyone has used this program successfully with pd as a visual jam client it supports frei0r plugins but i am getting crashes with freeframes, i assume because of colorspace issues webcam input is working via webcamstudio this is on ubuntu 10.04 any responses will be appreciated pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
Related: Apple has finally pulled Applidium's VLC video player app from the iTunes store due to a licensing discrepancy. The situation is one of the prominent examples of conflict between the open-source GNU General Public License, which is tied to the VLC player, and the terms detailed in Apple's own App Store licensing. http://www.macnn.com/articles/11/01/07/move.said.to.be.related.to.licensing.dispute/ cheers, p. Read more: http://www.macnn.com/articles/11/01/07/move.said.to.be.related.to.licensing.dispute/#ixzz1ASSH74Jx On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to loose time to studying apple guidelines. One question is important since it was an issue with the iPhone store: is GPL compatible with this stuff? http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance best! bernardo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Derek Holzer wrote: But kids have such a shorter attention span these days We're not talking about the same kind of readership. Those who care about UI will read the text of the Hall-of-Shame and find it to be surprisingly contemporary, even if they're «kids». ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
My point was that it seems that a non-standart UI doesn't mean that the App can't go into the Store. Apparently Apple doesn't take its own guidelines serious or they stretch “very good” from your quote: If your user interface is complex or less than very good it may be rejected. Regarding the license I guess vanilla Pd could be submitted while Pd-ext can't. Personally I don't care. Happy new year. Am 07.01.2011 um 21:43 schrieb Bernardo Barros: Max, you're free also not to enjoy freedom. :-) Happy new year PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] avoiding collapse of freeverb
hello, if i send signals with extreme amplitude to freeverb it collapses and it stop making any sound, and then it just output the word nah if i conect the output to a env~. For avoiding this i tried to connect a clip -1 1 object before freeverb but it doesnt work and freeverb still crashing, any idea how to avoid this crashing and why clip -1 1 doesnt work here? thanks R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] avoiding collapse of freeverb
Any digital filter will blow up when it becomes saturated. Clipping to -1 and 1 doesn't help, because then you could be sending values of -1 and 1 almost constantly to the object. Look at the help file for [limiter~] and use that ahead of your freeverb perhaps. Not having a high value for the feedback in the reverb itself can help. nan stands for Not A Number, and objects give this when they are incapable of calculating values any more. D. On 1/8/11 6:20 PM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, if i send signals with extreme amplitude to freeverb it collapses and it stop making any sound, and then it just output the word nah if i conect the output to a env~. For avoiding this i tried to connect a clip -1 1 object before freeverb but it doesnt work and freeverb still crashing, any idea how to avoid this crashing and why clip -1 1 doesnt work here? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 154: The most easily forgotten thing is the most important ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] avoiding collapse of freeverb
Alternately, use [/~ 10] in front of the freeverb and [*~ 10] after. This should scale things enough without losing too much resolution. It is digital after all. D. On 1/8/11 6:28 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: Any digital filter will blow up when it becomes saturated. Clipping to -1 and 1 doesn't help, because then you could be sending values of -1 and 1 almost constantly to the object. Look at the help file for [limiter~] and use that ahead of your freeverb perhaps. Not having a high value for the feedback in the reverb itself can help. nan stands for Not A Number, and objects give this when they are incapable of calculating values any more. D. On 1/8/11 6:20 PM, ronni montoya wrote: hello, if i send signals with extreme amplitude to freeverb it collapses and it stop making any sound, and then it just output the word nah if i conect the output to a env~. For avoiding this i tried to connect a clip -1 1 object before freeverb but it doesnt work and freeverb still crashing, any idea how to avoid this crashing and why clip -1 1 doesnt work here? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 129: Put in earplugs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] JIM2011 - Appel à communications / Call for papers
(english below) [Avec nos excuses pour les envois multiples] Bonjour, L'édition 2011 des Journées d'Informatique Musicale se tiendra les 25, 26 et 27 mai à l'Université de Saint-Etienne. Vous trouverez ci-joint l'appel à communications. Merci par avance de le diffuser aux personnes susceptibles d'être intéressées. Toutes les informations sur :http://jim2011.univ-st-etienne.fr/ Pour toute question ou renseignement :jim2...@univ-st-etienne.fr Cordialement, Liliane Deschamps-Pottier [Apologies for cross-posting] Hi, The next edition of the Journées d'Informatique Musicale will be held on May 25, 2011 - May 27, 2011 at the University of Saint-Etienne (France). You will find attached the call for papers. Thanks in advance for forwarding this message to whoever may be interested. More informations on:http://jim2011.univ-st-etienne.fr/ Send questions/requests by email to:jim2...@univ-st-etienne.fr Best, Liliane Deschamps-Pottier -- 17es Journées d'Informatique Musicale Université Jean Monnet - Saint-Etienne / 25 - 27 mai 2011 Appel à communications Date limite de soumission : 5 mars 2011 Soumissions en ligne surhttp://jim2011.univ-st-etienne.fr/ Contact :jim2...@univ-st-etienne.fr Les Journées d'Informatique Musicale (JIM) réunissent chaque année des chercheurs en informatique musicale et différents acteurs de la vie musicale utilisant l'informatique comme moyen d'expression ou comme aide à la composition. Les JIM sont pilotées par l'AFIM (Association Française d'Informatique Musicale) et soutenues par la DGCA (Direction Générale de la Création Artistique - Ministère de la Culture et de la Communication), le Conseil Général de la Loire et la Ville de Saint-Etienne Les JIM sollicitent des articles, posters, installations et démonstrations dans tous les domaines de l'informatique musicale. La date limite de soumission des articles est fixée au 5 mars 2011. Pour cette édition, des sessions spéciales seront organisées autour du thème de la préservation des oeuvres utilisant les technologies numériques. Ce thème vient compléter ceux des précédentes éditions en mettant l'accent sur des questionnements particuliers. Thèmes reconduits 1. Formalisation et représentation des structures musicales 2. Formalisation et modélisation des connaissances musicales 3. Environnements et langages d'aide à la composition musicale 4. Systèmes de composition et d'arrangement automatiques 5. Outils d'aide à l'analyse musicale 6. Systèmes pour l'édition et la publication musicale 7. Logiciels de reconnaissance optique de partitions 8. Modélisation et simulation de l'interprétation musicale 9. Interfaces logicielles et matérielles pour l'interprétation et l'exécution musicale 10. Systèmes et environnements pour la synthèse sonore 11. Modélisation des instruments de musique 12. Systèmes d'analyse et de traitement du signal acoustique 13. Modélisation de l'acoustique des salles, spatialisation du son 14. Dispositifs matériels et logiciels pour pièces interactives 15. Reconnaissance et extraction automatiques des paramètres musicaux 16. Normalisation, archivage et transmission de l'information musicale 17. Modélisation et simulation de la perception sonore et musicale 18. Systèmes et protocoles temps réel pour l'informatique musicale 19. Rapports d'activités de centres de recherche musicale 20. Systèmes pour la création musicale, de la microstructure à la macroforme Les JIM sollicitent également des articles proposant des réflexions à caractère philosophique, esthétique ou historique explicitement reliées aux domaines de l'informatique musicale. Prix AFIM du jeune chercheur Le prix AFIM récompense les jeunes chercheurs pour la qualité des travaux qu'ils présentent. Sont éligibles, les chercheurs qui présentent leurs travaux lors des JIM, ils doivent figurer en tant que premier auteur de l'article soumis et assurer la présentation orale de cet article. Le montant du prix du jeune chercheur AFIM est de 1000 euros. Format de soumission Les articles peuvent être écrits en français ou en anglais, pour un minimum de 4 pages et un maximum de 10 pages. Les communications donneront lieu à des conférences ou à des posters. Les articles doivent être soumis au format PDF. La mise en page doit être réalisée à partir des modèles Word ou Latex disponibles à l'adresse suivante : http://jim2011.univ-st-etienne.fr/html/communications.html -- Liliane Deschamps-Pottier Administratrice Comité d'organisation des JIM2011 jim2...@univ-st-etienne.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] exquisite caos audio theory
its only a gif and audio player embed but .. http://nuevocalipso.tumblr.com/caosTheory -- http://noconventions.mobi/noish ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] exquisite caos audio theory
but its fun! On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:53 PM, oskoff lovich noi...@gmail.com wrote: its only a gif and audio player embed but .. http://nuevocalipso.tumblr.com/caosTheory -- http://noconventions.mobi/noish ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick
HI, Maybe LMMS,is like FL or Reason... Audacity, Ardour... BR José 2011/1/8 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu: ardour ceclia zsynaddsubfx audacity hydrogen From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of João Pais [jmmmp...@googlemail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:25 AM To: PD-List Subject: [PD] (OT) audio (but not only) software in ubuntu maverick Hi, I'm trying once more ubuntu on my thinkpad laptop, this time maverick. So far things are going well, pdext+jack+ardour (from source) are working, and the system didn't break down after some days of setup+work (which is more than last time). As I'm not up to date on ubuntu, I wanted to ask about suggestions for audio software suited for quality work. I would be looking for a sound editor, ladspa/lv2 effects (specially good EQs), etc. etc. Also any other sugestions for small aplications that make life easier (e.g. extra menus, file management, mp3/ogg players/converters, ...) are welcome. If anyone also uses a thinkpad and has a way of seting up the trackpoint, I would be interested to know. Thanks, João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
On 07/01/11 23:14, Pedro Lopes wrote: Body tracking depends on the hardware you have: is kinect the best way? no. but its awesomely cheap and non intrusive. Do you have 10k dollars to spend in a vicon (http://www.vicon.com/) motion tracker? They kill kinect accuracy in an eye blink. Is there cheaper than kinect? Oh yeah. webcams are there for you. Ps3eye delivers 60 fps at an amazing cost, and if you want to spend more you have pointgrey cameras (also 60fps or more) or less phillips has a camera that i don't the model but gives an astonishing 90fps for 50 bucks. However camera solutions will require some computer vision processing effort (well.. so does kinect! even more), and you loose the depth information (Z) that kinect can offer. As always. it depends on a complex equation that involves your skill, budget, desired application, needs (XYZ?), gestures or direct point mapping, realtime or post? yeah, that's why it's difficult to decide what to use! I definitely need the depth information, as a kung fu form is moving in the space too; on the other side, kinect is probabily too slow. The pointgrey cameras or the one of philips sound really good, that's a pity that I loose the depth information. The sensor and software of Primesense could another possible solution: http://www.primesense.com/ Thanks for answering ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
On 08/01/11 01:07, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hi, I think in my humble opinion is the worst kinekt ... interactivity is not achieved suam reagent, the other day I saw the kids playing and seemed automata, emotionless, worried - robotic, incredible. I haven't tryied kinect yet, so I cannot say how good it is. I have consulted many times this same issue and there are several ways to fix it, many libraries and patches, some simple, if you need to capture each of soon to be good to use gesture processing and the library connected via osc to pd. Also Gem or pididp or the same opencv ... take a look, if you can not help you solve it with some patch. So you proposo to compensate with some coding what kinect cannot do ? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
If you want 3d and really fast... mocap. But they cost a lot and you have to wear the tiny capture reflective IR balls. Kinect is good, but latency exists. Games and developers do all sorts of filtering to simplify data and make it realtime usable. On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:16 PM, marcello wallacechemi...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/01/11 23:14, Pedro Lopes wrote: Body tracking depends on the hardware you have: is kinect the best way? no. but its awesomely cheap and non intrusive. Do you have 10k dollars to spend in a vicon (http://www.vicon.com/) motion tracker? They kill kinect accuracy in an eye blink. Is there cheaper than kinect? Oh yeah. webcams are there for you. Ps3eye delivers 60 fps at an amazing cost, and if you want to spend more you have pointgrey cameras (also 60fps or more) or less phillips has a camera that i don't the model but gives an astonishing 90fps for 50 bucks. However camera solutions will require some computer vision processing effort (well.. so does kinect! even more), and you loose the depth information (Z) that kinect can offer. As always. it depends on a complex equation that involves your skill, budget, desired application, needs (XYZ?), gestures or direct point mapping, realtime or post? yeah, that's why it's difficult to decide what to use! I definitely need the depth information, as a kung fu form is moving in the space too; on the other side, kinect is probabily too slow. The pointgrey cameras or the one of philips sound really good, that's a pity that I loose the depth information. The sensor and software of Primesense could another possible solution: http://www.primesense.com/ Thanks for answering ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
On 08/01/11 14:25, cyrille henry wrote: hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. That's a good point about the sensors, I didn't know this camera-latency problem. WHat kind of sensor have you used in your work ? Have you used wireless sensors ? imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. A combination of the two could be an idea, but then it's complicated to merge the data... Thanks for the infos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
Not defending anything, but just to remind 60 fps of a pointgrey camera is not slow. you probably will have a lot of trouble in dealing with 60 frames trying to cycle through your code every second. Accels and other hardware sensors are very useful too, and it very good results. But not the best for 3d positioning of a point in space, but excellent at giving the rotation of that point in space (i.e.: accels, gyros). :) On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, marcello wallacechemi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/01/11 14:25, cyrille henry wrote: hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. That's a good point about the sensors, I didn't know this camera-latency problem. WHat kind of sensor have you used in your work ? Have you used wireless sensors ? imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. A combination of the two could be an idea, but then it's complicated to merge the data... Thanks for the infos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:21 PM, marcello wallacechemi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/01/11 14:25, cyrille henry wrote: hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. That's a good point about the sensors, I didn't know this camera-latency problem. I think they are two very different solutions. Not just technically. Append to the performer's body a piece of technology define your work esthetically too. It defines another kind of interaction, between the dancer and the environment or public and technology. It's not bad. It's about what do you want. In my last work we decided to use just camera tracking for example, in order to make evident the relationship with camera surveillance system to the public. I'm not saying with that I prefer camera. Depends witch kind of interaction do you want. WHat kind of sensor have you used in your work ? Have you used wireless sensors ? For something like this I'd use wiimotes. imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. You can also use two different cameras at same time if you really need deep.And will be cheaper than kinect. But that also depend from the kind of interaction you want. You don't really always need all this data. A combination of the two could be an idea, but then it's complicated to merge the data... Thanks for the infos My 2cents husk -- when Art become pratical we call it technology. When Technology become useless we call it Art www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
Le 08/01/2011 20:21, marcello a écrit : On 08/01/11 14:25, cyrille henry wrote: hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. That's a good point about the sensors, I didn't know this camera-latency problem. it's not really latency, since you can have few latency with some camera, it's more about frequency. WHat kind of sensor have you used in your work ? mostly accelerometter. and some flex sensor. Have you used wireless sensors ? yes. it'swifi sensors. imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. A combination of the two could be an idea, but then it's complicated to merge the data... the 2 send very diferent kind of data. you don't have to merge them. cheers c Thanks for the infos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
Le 08/01/2011 20:24, Pedro Lopes a écrit : Not defending anything, but just to remind 60 fps of a pointgrey camera is not slow. for gesture, i consider everything under 200Hz as slow. including the wiimote 100Hz. by example, things like this have to be done at 1000Hz: http://vimeo.com/9598075 (we tried with slower system but it was not possible to be accurate enough). you probably will have a lot of trouble in dealing with 60 frames trying to cycle through your code every second. you have problem analysing the image, but dealing with the data is no problem. Accels and other hardware sensors are very useful too, and it very good results. yep But not the best for 3d positioning of a point in space, they will not provide any information regarding 3d positioning. the question is what information do you really want... if you want the position of someone in space, then you have to use a camera. but you can also track he's movement with a wacom. if you want to track it's gesture, then you need something faster. faster than a camera. but excellent at giving the rotation of that point in space (i.e.: accels, gyros). yep. cyrille :) On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, marcello wallacechemi...@gmail.com mailto:wallacechemi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/01/11 14:25, cyrille henry wrote: hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. That's a good point about the sensors, I didn't know this camera-latency problem. WHat kind of sensor have you used in your work ? Have you used wireless sensors ? imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. A combination of the two could be an idea, but then it's complicated to merge the data... Thanks for the infos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt mailto:pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Body tracking
there is an interesting whitepaper on this topic: http://www.palindrome.de/d2/C13.pdf Am 09.01.2011 um 01:37 schrieb cyrille henry: Le 08/01/2011 20:24, Pedro Lopes a écrit : Not defending anything, but just to remind 60 fps of a pointgrey camera is not slow. for gesture, i consider everything under 200Hz as slow. including the wiimote 100Hz. by example, things like this have to be done at 1000Hz: http://vimeo.com/9598075 (we tried with slower system but it was not possible to be accurate enough). you probably will have a lot of trouble in dealing with 60 frames trying to cycle through your code every second. you have problem analysing the image, but dealing with the data is no problem. Accels and other hardware sensors are very useful too, and it very good results. yep But not the best for 3d positioning of a point in space, they will not provide any information regarding 3d positioning. the question is what information do you really want... if you want the position of someone in space, then you have to use a camera. but you can also track he's movement with a wacom. if you want to track it's gesture, then you need something faster. faster than a camera. but excellent at giving the rotation of that point in space (i.e.: accels, gyros). yep. cyrille :) On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, marcello wallacechemi...@gmail.com mailto:wallacechemi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/01/11 14:25, cyrille henry wrote: hello, for the kung fu : movement are usually very fast. a camera is usually to slow to be useful. i personally prefer using sensor like accelerometter on the body. you can use wiimote or some other (faster) sensors system. here is a video of a performance i worked for few years ago. http://vimeo.com/4596629 sensors are used at time : 4'57 to 6'06 and from 6'43 to 7'23. at 6'43, you can see that this kind of sensors are lot's more accurate that what you'll be able to do with a camera. That's a good point about the sensors, I didn't know this camera-latency problem. WHat kind of sensor have you used in your work ? Have you used wireless sensors ? imo, camera are good to track body position. kinect look to have a sensing zone that is a bit limited. A combination of the two could be an idea, but then it's complicated to merge the data... Thanks for the infos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt mailto:pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] flocons (fwd)
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: http://gridflow.ca/gallery/flocon_256_114_14.png This one is beautiful. What does that imply about the other ones ? ;) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
