[PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
original poster might shed a little light on this.

Pagano, Patrick wrote:
 I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to 
 access files for later recall.
Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using
favourite as bookmark seems strange.
 On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Husk,
 Hi Martin
 First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
 than Simon's, just so that you know.
I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days.

 [...]
 I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally
 and I can vouch for him.
Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
 The Mussolini video is not something that he
 posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
 from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
 media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need
 to jump to conclusions.
Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
simpathy).
That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically
softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
 I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
 See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
 stange days in Italy.
@ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del
fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
 BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
 my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
See above.
 My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
 privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
 I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
 collective discussions (and conflicts too)
Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
back to our Pd-ing :)

Lorenzo.
 cheers
 husk

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Re: [PD] Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread Andy Farnell


Very responsive. That would make a dream radio editing tool.

Back in 96 when everyone was mousing on Sadie and CoolEdit
we had a Fairlight (radio suite not music keyboard) at a 
station I worked, and it's amazing how much a well thought
out interface can speed up production. 

I'd like to see that TouchEdit with pinch and drag to another 
track as a student project.


On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:02:49 +
Simon Kilshaw simon.kils...@rwcmd.ac.uk wrote:

 
 Hi All,
 Here are some examples of interactive touchscreen installations I'm working 
 on with pd/gem. No multitouch yet, but  any feedback would be welcome!
 
 www.youtube.com/mrsimonkilshawhttp://www.youtube.com/mrsimonkilshaw
 
 All the best
 Simon
 
 
 
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 CF10 3ER
 A subsidiary of the University of Glamorgan
 Company registration 6013744, registered in England and Wales
 
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 CF10 3ER
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 Cofrestriad cwmni 6013744, a gofrestrwyd yn Lloegr a Chymru


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Re: [PD] Comport under Linux - baudbits question

2011-04-14 Thread J bz
Ok, so nothing to worry about then:)  I was worried that there was a
bottleneck somewhere.

Maybe I should have said but it's for interfacing with a pair of xbees
rather than an arduino.  Same kinda thing tho'.

Appreciate the comments.

Cheers,

Julian

On 13 April 2011 18:07, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:


   Hi all,
  
   Just transferring a patch into Linux from W7 and I get this message in
   the console which I didn't previously:
   get_baud_ratebits: 115200
   set_baudrate baudbits: 4098
  
   Now I want the baudrate to be 115200, which is good but what does the
   baudbits info mean - for example is it telling me that data is only
   coming in at 4098? Which I don't want, or, seems a waste if the overall
   patch is expecting a much faster rate.
  
 
  I think the baud rate will be correct, the baudbits message is wrong.
 

 Actually it's not wrong, it's just reporting the bits for the baud rate
 register, so it's not useful except for debugging. I will remove it.

 Martin


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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread JF
The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the drop-down menu addition. 
Congratulations Yvan, HC  JW.

Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of using TAB this 
happens...

  * Create new object - list of objects appear in full (0-9, a-z) but focus 
stays in object
  * Begin typing - list of objects reduces as you type
  * See the one you want - arrow key up/down, focus changes to drop-down box 
then ENTER to select desired object

Is this something that is possible?

I tend to go on breaks from Pd when real life kicks back in so every time I 
come 
back I find myself opening up the help list of all objects to remember what 
tools I have available to me. So a complete list I would find very helpful, 
plus 
I think this would aid beginners a lot too.

Cheers, John.


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[PD] unpackOsc can't load

2011-04-14 Thread Marcello

Hi all,

for some reason I cannot load the library unpackOSC.

I'm working on a Mac and I've installed latest pd-extended version.

I've added the path of this library:
defaults write org.puredata.pdextended path36 
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach

and the library itself:
defaults write org.puredata.pdextended loadlib36 unpackOSC

Pd says at startup:
unpackOSC: can't load library

The library is located at:
$ ls 
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSC*

/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSC.pd_darwin
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSCstream-help.pd
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSCstream.pd

any help is appreciated

best

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)

2011-04-14 Thread Max
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Dear Mathieu,

I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't 
have to speculate about them:
we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who 
submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at 
exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 
submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43.

(ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review)

Greetings,

Max


Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:

 On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
 
 The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 
 24:00h (UTS +2)
 
 reminder
 
 BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This 
 should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count 
 some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it 
 doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00.
 
 (I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately)

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Re: [PD] Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread errordeveloper
Hi Simon,

Very interesting indeed!

Please write about the hardware or give a link to those details :)

Cheers,
-- 
Ilya 

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:02:49PM +, Simon Kilshaw wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 Here are some examples of interactive touchscreen installations I'm working 
 on with pd/gem. No multitouch yet, but  any feedback would be welcome!
 
 www.youtube.com/mrsimonkilshawhttp://www.youtube.com/mrsimonkilshaw
 
 All the best
 Simon
 
 
 
 [Royal Welsh College of Music  Drama]http://www.rwcmd.ac.uk/
 
 Royal Welsh College of Music  Drama, Castle Grounds, Cathays Park, Cardiff 
 CF10 3ER
 A subsidiary of the University of Glamorgan
 Company registration 6013744, registered in England and Wales
 
 Coleg Brenhinol Cerdd a Drama Cymru, Maes y Castell, Parc Cathays, Caerdydd 
 CF10 3ER
 Is-gwmni Prifysgol Morgannwg
 Cofrestriad cwmni 6013744, a gofrestrwyd yn Lloegr a Chymru

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Re: [PD] unpackOsc can't load

2011-04-14 Thread Marcello

Hi,

I've just solved the problem with the help of dmotd in the #dataflow chat.

Two things to remember about this subject:
- the pd preferences for pd-extended are stored at org.puredata.pdextended
- you have to add the mrpeach library to the loadlib and not just the 
unpackOSC


Best

On 14/04/11 11.55, Marcello wrote:

Hi all,

for some reason I cannot load the library unpackOSC.

I'm working on a Mac and I've installed latest pd-extended version.

I've added the path of this library:
defaults write org.puredata.pdextended path36
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach
and the library itself:
defaults write org.puredata.pdextended loadlib36 unpackOSC

Pd says at startup:
unpackOSC: can't load library

The library is located at:
$ ls
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSC*
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSC.pd_darwin

/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSCstream-help.pd

/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mrpeach/unpackOSCstream.pd


any help is appreciated

best



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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread yvan volochine

On 04/14/2011 11:54 AM, JF wrote:

The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the drop-down menu addition.
Congratulations Yvan, HC  JW.

Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of using TAB this
happens...


there is a new version but it's still expermiental (and unreleased).
if you wanna test it:

http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs

and checkout autocompletion_experimental branch


   * Create new object -  list of objects appear in full (0-9, a-z) but focus
stays in object


then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the GUI for 
it (nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then you don't 
have an easy overview of all completions...). not sure I really want 
that though :/ maybe this could be a user option ?



   * Begin typing -  list of objects reduces as you type


the experimental version does that but there are still some bugs


   * See the one you want -  arrow key up/down, focus changes to drop-down box
then ENTER to select desired object


the current version does that

cheers,
_y

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Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread Simon Wise

On 14/04/11 14:46, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using
favourite as bookmark seems strange.


Favourite is used as a the name for what I call a Bookmark in a lot of 
interfaces - and yes, it does annoy me since Bookmark seem a better metaphor, 
but a certain OS has been using it for a long time.


Simon

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Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
hmmmWhat is the context of the Musilini video?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote:
 As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
 words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
 original poster might shed a little light on this.

 Pagano, Patrick wrote:
 I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to 
 access files for later recall.
 Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using
 favourite as bookmark seems strange.
 On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Husk,
 Hi Martin
 First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
 than Simon's, just so that you know.
 I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
 consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
 Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days.

 [...]
 I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally
 and I can vouch for him.
 Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
 The Mussolini video is not something that he
 posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
 from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
 media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need
 to jump to conclusions.
 Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
 favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
 simpathy).
 That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
 having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
 pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically
 softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
 I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
 See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
 stange days in Italy.
 @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
 same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del
 fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
 large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
 BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
 my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
 See above.
 My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
 privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
 I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
 collective discussions (and conflicts too)
 Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
 back to our Pd-ing :)

 Lorenzo.
 cheers
 husk

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 become useless we call it Art
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Re: [PD] Pd 0.43 Vanilla under Ubuntu

2011-04-14 Thread olsen

Hi

thanks for the replies - i applied the patch from hans the common way:

patch -p1  0001-fix-install-targets-add-enable-unix-layout-and-insta.patch

execting ./pd from the bin directory works now but regular startup still errörs:
olsen@ll-928:~$ pd
Error in startup script: couldn't read file 
/usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory
watchdog: signaling pd..

i'm on the road with the following tcl/tk stuff:
tcl   8.4.16-2  The Tool Command Language 
(default version) - run-time files
tcl8.48.4.19-4  Tcl (the Tool Command Language) 
v8.4 - run-time files
tcl8.58.5.8-2build1 Tcl (the Tool Command Language) 
v8.5 - run-time files
tcl8.5-dev8.5.8-2build1 Tcl (the Tool Command Language) 
v8.5 - development files

tcllib1.12-dfsg-2   
the Standard Tcl Library
tk8.4 8.4.19-4  Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.4 
- run-time files
tk8.5 8.5.8-1   Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.5 
- run-time files
tk8.5-dev 8.5.8-1   Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.5 
- development files


 i didn't wan't to remove 8.4 as proposed by John as this ends up in the 
removal of pd-extended.

but at least i now have a somehow usable version of 0.43 Vanilla

salutis
ø





On 04/13/2011 05:13 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


I think I fixed the install issues out in this patch:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3248426group_id=55736atid=478072
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3248426group_id=55736atid=478072

.hc


On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Daniel Roviriego wrote:


The only way I suceeded was executing the binary straight from the source:

cd to your src directory:

$ cd /usr/src/pd-0.43/bin/
$ ./pd

I still have some doubts on setting 0.43 to find the right tcl version, once 2 
gui plugins (gtk open/save and kiosk)
don't find those:

UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package Tcl: have 8.4, need 8.5
while executing
package require Tcl 8.5

Oddly, other gui-plugins that also require tcl 8.5, loaded smoothly ( 
autocompletion-plugin, menubar-plugin and
buttonbar-plugin)


cheers



2011/4/13 olsen sesselastron...@googlemail.com 
mailto:sesselastron...@googlemail.com

got the same error on a fresh install pd-vanilla on ubuntu 10.10- configure 
 install no problemo but starting pd
hangs up:

was... 1

Error in startup script: couldn't read file 
/usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory
watchdog: signaling pd...

i've tk8.5 and tcl8.5 installed

any hints welcome
thanks
ø



On 03/22/2011 12:02 PM, saint wrote:

Configure and make seem to go fine but when I try to launch...

Error in startup script: couldn't read file 
/usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory

...perhaps I'm missing something? I'm no Linux expert.


Thanks, John.






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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread JF
 * Create new object  -  list of objects appear in full (0-9, a-z) but 
focus

  stays in  object
 
 then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the GUI  for it 
(nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then you don't have  an 
easy 

overview of all completions...). not sure I really want that though :/  maybe 
this could be a user option ?

Yes I can see this annoying a lot of other people but a user option would be 
fantastic ; )

 * Begin typing  -  list of objects reduces as you type
 
 the experimental version  does that but there are still some bugs

I tried it out and it is awesome and way closer to what feels natural to me!


I'm not sure if I made myself clear in the first post but I was trying to 
advocate a way in which the drop-down menu could pop-up _without_ pressing TAB? 
Perhaps it could pop up as soon as you start typing?

Is this possible do you know or maybe even as an option???


Again great work though Yvan! Definitely the best improvement to Pd for me in 
the past couple of years.

John.


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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread Joe White
Hi Yvan,

First off, great plugin - love the feature!

I just checked out the latest version of the autocomplete plugin from
github.

Every time I start up Pd I get the same error (this doesn't seem to affect
any functionality):

loaded: autocompletion-plugin 0.33
---
UNHANDLED ERROR: can't rename to ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old: command
already exists
while executing
rename ::pd_bindings::sendkey ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old
(uplevel body line 12)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $tclcode
FAILED TO LOAD /Users/joe/Library/Pd/autocompletion-plugin.tcl
---

Also, when using the tab function, after the context menu shows, pressing
the arrow keys (or any other key) followed by TAB again gives the following
'Application Error':

Error: Cannot call post message while al...

Once this shows Pd becomes unresponsive and I have to force quit it.

I'm running Pd-0.43-0 on a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.7

Thanks,
Joe

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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:55:24 +0200
From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com
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On 04/14/2011 11:54 AM, JF wrote:
 The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the drop-down menu
addition.
 Congratulations Yvan, HC  JW.

 Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of using TAB this
 happens...

there is a new version but it's still expermiental (and unreleased).
if you wanna test it:

http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs

and checkout autocompletion_experimental branch

* Create new object -  list of objects appear in full (0-9, a-z) but
focus
 stays in object

then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the GUI for
it (nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then you don't
have an easy overview of all completions...). not sure I really want
that though :/ maybe this could be a user option ?

* Begin typing -  list of objects reduces as you type

the experimental version does that but there are still some bugs

* See the one you want -  arrow key up/down, focus changes to
drop-down box
 then ENTER to select desired object

the current version does that

cheers,
_y
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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread András Murányi
Hello Joe,

seems like Pd tries to load the plugin twice! Which means that you have its
folder in your search path twice... try to remove one occurrence of the
folder from your .pdsettings or .pdextended, and if it is a default folder,
you can remove the single occurrence you find, because default folders are
searched by default, no need to have them in your settings.

Andras


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 17:27, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Yvan,

 First off, great plugin - love the feature!

 I just checked out the latest version of the autocomplete plugin from
 github.

 Every time I start up Pd I get the same error (this doesn't seem to affect
 any functionality):

 loaded: autocompletion-plugin 0.33
 ---
 UNHANDLED ERROR: can't rename to ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old: command
 already exists
 while executing
 rename ::pd_bindings::sendkey ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old
 (uplevel body line 12)
 invoked from within
 uplevel #0 $tclcode
 FAILED TO LOAD /Users/joe/Library/Pd/autocompletion-plugin.tcl
 ---

 Also, when using the tab function, after the context menu shows, pressing
 the arrow keys (or any other key) followed by TAB again gives the following
 'Application Error':

 Error: Cannot call post message while al...

 Once this shows Pd becomes unresponsive and I have to force quit it.

 I'm running Pd-0.43-0 on a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.7

 Thanks,
 Joe

 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:55:24 +0200
 From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
 To: JF sainti...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at
 Message-ID: 4da6e0ac@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


 On 04/14/2011 11:54 AM, JF wrote:
  The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the drop-down menu
 addition.
  Congratulations Yvan, HC  JW.
 
  Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of using TAB this
  happens...

 there is a new version but it's still expermiental (and unreleased).
 if you wanna test it:

 http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs

 and checkout autocompletion_experimental branch

 * Create new object -  list of objects appear in full (0-9, a-z) but
 focus
  stays in object

 then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the GUI for
 it (nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then you don't
 have an easy overview of all completions...). not sure I really want
 that though :/ maybe this could be a user option ?

 * Begin typing -  list of objects reduces as you type

 the experimental version does that but there are still some bugs

 * See the one you want -  arrow key up/down, focus changes to
 drop-down box
  then ENTER to select desired object

 the current version does that

 cheers,
 _y



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Re: [PD] Pd 0.43 Vanilla under Ubuntu

2011-04-14 Thread zmoelnig

Quoting olsen sesselastron...@googlemail.com:


Hi

thanks for the replies - i applied the patch from hans the common way:

patch -p1  0001-fix-install-targets-add-enable-unix-layout-and-insta.patch



btw, for whatever reasons i have not had any problems with Pd-vanilla  
0.43 on debian at all.
(well, i think there is one, when trying to start pd via the pd-gui,  
but i never do this)


fgmasdr
IOhannes

PS: i seem to remember that i have written this before, so sorry for any dupes


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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

That leads me to the question of how best to handle checking for
duplicate loads in Pd.  Perhaps we could reuse the Tcl 'package require'
if it has functionality like this.  So that each plugin would then be a
package that needs to be loaded into Tcl.  That's one idea.

.hc

On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 17:57 +0200, András Murányi wrote:
 Hello Joe,
 
 seems like Pd tries to load the plugin twice! Which means that you
 have its folder in your search path twice... try to remove one
 occurrence of the folder from your .pdsettings or .pdextended, and if
 it is a default folder, you can remove the single occurrence you find,
 because default folders are searched by default, no need to have them
 in your settings.
 
 Andras
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 17:27, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Yvan,
 
 
 First off, great plugin - love the feature!
 
 
 I just checked out the latest version of the autocomplete
 plugin from github. 
 
 
 Every time I start up Pd I get the same error (this doesn't
 seem to affect any functionality):
 
 
 loaded: autocompletion-plugin 0.33
 ---
 UNHANDLED ERROR: can't rename to ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old:
 command already exists
 while executing
 rename ::pd_bindings::sendkey ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old
 (uplevel body line 12)
 invoked from within
 uplevel #0 $tclcode
 FAILED TO LOAD /Users/joe/Library/Pd/autocompletion-plugin.tcl
 ---
 
 
 Also, when using the tab function, after the context menu
 shows, pressing the arrow keys (or any other key) followed by
 TAB again gives the following 'Application Error':
 
 
 Error: Cannot call post message while al...
 
 
 Once this shows Pd becomes unresponsive and I have to force
 quit it. 
 
 
 I'm running Pd-0.43-0 on a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.7
 
 
 Thanks,
 Joe
 
 
 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:55:24 +0200
 From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
 To: JF sainti...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at
 Message-ID: 4da6e0ac@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 
 On 04/14/2011 11:54 AM, JF wrote:
  The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the
 drop-down menu addition.
  Congratulations Yvan, HC  JW.
 
  Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of
 using TAB this
  happens...
 
 there is a new version but it's still expermiental (and
 unreleased).
 if you wanna test it:
 
 http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs
 
 and checkout autocompletion_experimental branch
 
 
 * Create new object -  list of objects appear in full
 (0-9, a-z) but focus
  stays in object
 
 then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the
 GUI for
 it (nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then
 you don't
 have an easy overview of all completions...). not sure I
 really want
 that though :/ maybe this could be a user option ?
 
 
 * Begin typing -  list of objects reduces as you type
 
 the experimental version does that but there are still some
 bugs
 
 
 * See the one you want -  arrow key up/down, focus
 changes to drop-down box
  then ENTER to select desired object
 
 the current version does that
 
 cheers,
 _y
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd 0.43 Vanilla under Ubuntu

2011-04-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 18:37 +0200, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 Quoting olsen sesselastron...@googlemail.com:
 
  Hi
 
  thanks for the replies - i applied the patch from hans the common way:
 
  patch -p1  0001-fix-install-targets-add-enable-unix-layout-and-insta.patch
 
 
 btw, for whatever reasons i have not had any problems with Pd-vanilla  
 0.43 on debian at all.
 (well, i think there is one, when trying to start pd via the pd-gui,  
 but i never do this)
 
 fgmasdr
 IOhannes
 
 PS: i seem to remember that i have written this before, so sorry for any dupes

Olsen,

Its working for me too on Ubuntu and Mac OS X (installed UNIX style
into /usr/local).  My guess is that you have multiple Pds installed and
they are conflicting.

.hc


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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread Pagano, Patrick
how do install the tab completion properly?
There seems to be a few patches for pd.
I am on OSX 10.6.6

did i miss a how to on this?

pp

From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
Hans-Christoph Steiner [h...@at.or.at]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:41 PM
To: András Murányi
Cc: PD List
Subject: Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

That leads me to the question of how best to handle checking for
duplicate loads in Pd.  Perhaps we could reuse the Tcl 'package require'
if it has functionality like this.  So that each plugin would then be a
package that needs to be loaded into Tcl.  That's one idea.

.hc

On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 17:57 +0200, András Murányi wrote:
 Hello Joe,

 seems like Pd tries to load the plugin twice! Which means that you
 have its folder in your search path twice... try to remove one
 occurrence of the folder from your .pdsettings or .pdextended, and if
 it is a default folder, you can remove the single occurrence you find,
 because default folders are searched by default, no need to have them
 in your settings.

 Andras


 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 17:27, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Yvan,


 First off, great plugin - love the feature!


 I just checked out the latest version of the autocomplete
 plugin from github.


 Every time I start up Pd I get the same error (this doesn't
 seem to affect any functionality):


 loaded: autocompletion-plugin 0.33
 ---
 UNHANDLED ERROR: can't rename to ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old:
 command already exists
 while executing
 rename ::pd_bindings::sendkey ::pd_bindings::sendkey_old
 (uplevel body line 12)
 invoked from within
 uplevel #0 $tclcode
 FAILED TO LOAD /Users/joe/Library/Pd/autocompletion-plugin.tcl
 ---


 Also, when using the tab function, after the context menu
 shows, pressing the arrow keys (or any other key) followed by
 TAB again gives the following 'Application Error':


 Error: Cannot call post message while al...


 Once this shows Pd becomes unresponsive and I have to force
 quit it.


 I'm running Pd-0.43-0 on a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.7


 Thanks,
 Joe


 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:55:24 +0200
 From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
 To: JF sainti...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at
 Message-ID: 4da6e0ac@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


 On 04/14/2011 11:54 AM, JF wrote:
  The auto-completion is fantastic stuff! Especially the
 drop-down menu addition.
  Congratulations Yvan, HC  JW.
 
  Is there anyway of modifying the plugin so that instead of
 using TAB this
  happens...

 there is a new version but it's still expermiental (and
 unreleased).
 if you wanna test it:

 http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs

 and checkout autocompletion_experimental branch


 * Create new object -  list of objects appear in full
 (0-9, a-z) but focus
  stays in object

 then it can be a *long* list of objects so I should change the
 GUI for
 it (nomore popup menu but a window with scrollbars but then
 you don't
 have an easy overview of all completions...). not sure I
 really want
 that though :/ maybe this could be a user option ?


 * Begin typing -  list of objects reduces as you type

 the experimental version does that but there are still some
 bugs


 * See the one you want -  arrow key up/down, focus
 changes to drop-down box
  then ENTER to select desired object

 the current version does that

 cheers,
 _y





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[PD] threaded soundfiler / loading soundfiles into arrays without clicks

2011-04-14 Thread Luka Prinčič // Nova deViator

hi list,

i was searching archives and couldn't find any decent update on this old
question - has this issue been resolved? loading soundfiles without
clicks during performance? 

i found [anysoundfiler] but it seems to not do much when i load a file,
and when i load another file it freezes pd.

sorry if this was answered before...

any ideas?

best, luka

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Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8Uav7EPlQ

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, ALAN BROOKER
alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hmmmWhat is the context of the Musilini video?

 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote:
 As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
 words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
 original poster might shed a little light on this.

 Pagano, Patrick wrote:
 I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to 
 access files for later recall.
 Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using
 favourite as bookmark seems strange.
 On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Husk,
 Hi Martin
 First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
 than Simon's, just so that you know.
 I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
 consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
 Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days.

 [...]
 I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon 
 personally
 and I can vouch for him.
 Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
 The Mussolini video is not something that he
 posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
 from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
 media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no 
 need
 to jump to conclusions.
 Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
 favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
 simpathy).
 That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
 having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
 pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically
 softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
 I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
 See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
 stange days in Italy.
 @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
 same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del
 fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
 large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
 BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
 my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
 See above.
 My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
 privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
 I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
 collective discussions (and conflicts too)
 Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
 back to our Pd-ing :)

 Lorenzo.
 cheers
 husk

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Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins

2011-04-14 Thread yvan volochine

On 04/14/2011 07:30 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

how do install the tab completion properly?


get the gui-plugin there:
http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/auto-completion-plugin
and howto is there:
http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins

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[PD] you guys fixed midi spp in 0.43-0

2011-04-14 Thread Billy Stiltner
midi song position pointer works in 0.43-0. I couldn't get it to work
in earlier versions.
thanks

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Re: [PD] threaded soundfiler / loading soundfiles into arrays without clicks

2011-04-14 Thread pierlu
hi luka
I have the same problem here: when loading audio files in array (even
if the array is not resized upon loading) pd hiccups. I found that the
best way to avoid them is to load samples all at once before starting
the performance each one in a different array and then use the use
buffer message to tell the tabread~ which array to read from.
p.

On Thursday, April 14, 2011, Luka Prinčič // Nova deViator
n...@deviator.si wrote:

 hi list,

 i was searching archives and couldn't find any decent update on this old
 question - has this issue been resolved? loading soundfiles without
 clicks during performance?

 i found [anysoundfiler] but it seems to not do much when i load a file,
 and when i load another file it freezes pd.

 sorry if this was answered before...

 any ideas?

 best, luka

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Re: [PD] threaded soundfiler / loading soundfiles into arrays without clicks

2011-04-14 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Luka Prinčič // Nova deViator wrote:

i was searching archives and couldn't find any decent update on this old 
question - has this issue been resolved? loading soundfiles without 
clicks during performance?


You'd have to extract Tim Blechmann's threaded [soundfiler] from pd-devel 
39 and turn it into an external. AFAIK this has still not been done, even 
though that has been coded over five years ago.


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Re: [PD] Music made with PD

2011-04-14 Thread tim vets
Hi,
two excerpts form impro sessions I did with drummer Eric Thielemans, during
my residency at netwerk-art.be.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19070857/eric-tim-wiel.flv
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19070857/eric-tim-ifamanspeakshismindinaforest.flv
hope you enjoy,
Tim

2011/3/4 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com


 I suspected, Caio.

 No Gem, I just used |image|.


 um abraço


 Eduardo


 *De:* Caio Barros caio.bar...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 4 de Março de 2011 14:16

 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

 Plese send me the instructions. I'm brazilian too, speak portuguese.
 What I want to know about the drawings is how can I put those images in the
 Pd patch? Did you use Gem or another library?


 2011/3/4 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com


 Hi, Caio!

 Here's the graphic 
 scorehttp://eduardopatricio.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/screen-shot-2011-03-04-at-13-41-27.png.

 The étude has an improvisational character. So the score doesn't indicate
 the expected sound results or the performer actions, but a set of
 possibilities in a given time.

 I could send you a pdf file that includes the performance guidelines (in
 portuguese).

 I drew the symbols with corel draw to send to the acrylic factory.



 Eduardo


 _
 Eduardo Patrício
 http://www.eduardopatricio.com.br
 +55 41 8434-0480

 *De:* Caio Barros caio.bar...@gmail.com

 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 4 de Março de 2011 12:52

 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

 Hey Eduardo, can you show us the Score of that Zin Etude?
 And how did you draw those symbols of the sensors in the GUI?

 Caio Barros

 2011/3/4 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com


 Thank you for your feedback, Richie!

 I hope to see more of your project in the future.
 Sure, I'll send you the complete specifications later, but right now I can
 tell that there's no mystery about the hardware.

 I have 6 
 GP2D12http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/acc/SharpGP2D12Snrs.pdfsensors 
 and two of
 'these'http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/electronic-brick-diffuse-reflection-ir-switch-sensor-analog-p-595.html?cPath=144_149zenid=41aa3e29dc1329011858d142c30061badirectly
  plugged to the arduino. That's it.


 Eduardo


 _
 Eduardo Patrício
 http://www.eduardopatricio.com.br
 +55 41 8434-0480

 *De:* Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Terça-feira, 1 de Março de 2011 18:30
 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

 Great stuff Eduardo! I love that Zin, what a wonderful thing. We are doing
 similar work, although you are far ahead of me with Arduino. I should post
 some of my wii videos.

 Here is my first attempt at Arduino http://vimeo.com/20355024 it's now
 fully veroboarded. Now I have to work on the patch.

 I would be really interested in the exact specifications of you Zin, I am
 intending to make my own gestural HID with Arduino. If you would be willing
 to share your circuit designs or sensor specs I'd very much appreciate it.

 thanks

 Richie Cyngler

 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.comwrote:


 Thanks, Phil!

 I believe not. It's very simple.

 Hardware: six infrared distance sensors (to directly control several
 parameters), and two proximity sensors.

 Software: a simple granular synthesis implementation, a reverb and two
 delay modules (one for each output of the stereo)

 Basically you control directly some synthesis parameters, reverb and delay
 levels.

 There's a score system to make some pre-programed changes (it changes the
 samples used during the performance and some delay parameters)

 The proximity sensors turns on and off a second synthesis layer (a kind of
 automated buffered granular synthesis) which is created while you're
 playing.

 Also, you can control how quick the sensors respond to the gestures.
 GUIhttp://eduardopatricio.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/screen-shot-2011-03-01-at-14-55-05.png

 I guess that's all.
 *
 Eduardo
 *

 *De:* Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu
 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Terça-feira, 1 de Março de 2011 13:43
 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

  Very nice! Have you discussed the Zin here before? If not, what is going
 on there?


 Phil Stone
 www.pkstonemusic.com

 On 3/1/11 8:15 AM, Eduardo Patricio wrote:


 Hello, list!

 Two more videos:

 http://vimeo.com/20464262 - Wii stuff + Pd

 http://vimeo.com/20464964 - Zin (arduino based) + Pd

 Cheers

 Eduardo


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Re: [PD] Music made with PD

2011-04-14 Thread Richie Cyngler
Beautiful twang. Loved both pieces. Thanks for sharing.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:45 AM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 two excerpts form impro sessions I did with drummer Eric Thielemans, during
 my residency at netwerk-art.be.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19070857/eric-tim-wiel.flv
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19070857/eric-tim-ifamanspeakshismindinaforest.flv
 hope you enjoy,
 Tim


 2011/3/4 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com


 I suspected, Caio.

 No Gem, I just used |image|.


 um abraço


 Eduardo


 *De:* Caio Barros caio.bar...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 4 de Março de 2011 14:16

 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

 Plese send me the instructions. I'm brazilian too, speak portuguese.
 What I want to know about the drawings is how can I put those images in
 the Pd patch? Did you use Gem or another library?


 2011/3/4 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com


 Hi, Caio!

 Here's the graphic 
 scorehttp://eduardopatricio.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/screen-shot-2011-03-04-at-13-41-27.png.

 The étude has an improvisational character. So the score doesn't indicate
 the expected sound results or the performer actions, but a set of
 possibilities in a given time.

 I could send you a pdf file that includes the performance guidelines (in
 portuguese).

 I drew the symbols with corel draw to send to the acrylic factory.



 Eduardo


 _
 Eduardo Patrício
 http://www.eduardopatricio.com.br
 +55 41 8434-0480

 *De:* Caio Barros caio.bar...@gmail.com

 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 4 de Março de 2011 12:52

 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

 Hey Eduardo, can you show us the Score of that Zin Etude?
 And how did you draw those symbols of the sensors in the GUI?

 Caio Barros

 2011/3/4 Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com


 Thank you for your feedback, Richie!

 I hope to see more of your project in the future.
 Sure, I'll send you the complete specifications later, but right now I can
 tell that there's no mystery about the hardware.

 I have 6 
 GP2D12http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/acc/SharpGP2D12Snrs.pdfsensors 
 and two of
 'these'http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/electronic-brick-diffuse-reflection-ir-switch-sensor-analog-p-595.html?cPath=144_149zenid=41aa3e29dc1329011858d142c30061badirectly
  plugged to the arduino. That's it.


 Eduardo


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 *De:* Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu; pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Terça-feira, 1 de Março de 2011 18:30
 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

 Great stuff Eduardo! I love that Zin, what a wonderful thing. We are doing
 similar work, although you are far ahead of me with Arduino. I should post
 some of my wii videos.

 Here is my first attempt at Arduino http://vimeo.com/20355024 it's now
 fully veroboarded. Now I have to work on the patch.

 I would be really interested in the exact specifications of you Zin, I am
 intending to make my own gestural HID with Arduino. If you would be willing
 to share your circuit designs or sensor specs I'd very much appreciate it.

 thanks

 Richie Cyngler

 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.comwrote:


 Thanks, Phil!

 I believe not. It's very simple.

 Hardware: six infrared distance sensors (to directly control several
 parameters), and two proximity sensors.

 Software: a simple granular synthesis implementation, a reverb and two
 delay modules (one for each output of the stereo)

 Basically you control directly some synthesis parameters, reverb and delay
 levels.

 There's a score system to make some pre-programed changes (it changes
 the samples used during the performance and some delay parameters)

 The proximity sensors turns on and off a second synthesis layer (a kind of
 automated buffered granular synthesis) which is created while you're
 playing.

 Also, you can control how quick the sensors respond to the gestures.
 GUIhttp://eduardopatricio.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/screen-shot-2011-03-01-at-14-55-05.png

 I guess that's all.
 *
 Eduardo
 *

 *De:* Phil Stone pkst...@ucdavis.edu
 *Para:* Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* pd-list pd-list@iem.at
 *Enviadas:* Terça-feira, 1 de Março de 2011 13:43
 *Assunto:* Re: [PD] Music made with PD

  Very nice! Have you discussed the Zin here before? If not, what is going
 on there?


 Phil Stone
 www.pkstonemusic.com

 On 3/1/11 8:15 AM, Eduardo Patricio wrote:


 Hello, list!

 Two more videos:

 http://vimeo.com/20464262 - Wii stuff + Pd

 http://vimeo.com/20464964 - Zin (arduino based) + Pd

 Cheers

 Eduardo


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Re: [PD] threaded soundfiler / loading soundfiles into arrays without clicks

2011-04-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028678.html

So if the dsp tree gets resorted when you load the soundfile, wouldn#39;t this 
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Re: [PD] [wiimote] accelerometer data missing?

2011-04-14 Thread Jason Plumb

On 04/13/2011 08:56 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:

Somewhat OT perhaps, but can you also try disis_wiimote which supports motion 
plus (compiled

 against latest SVN cwiid lib)? I just released new version earlier
 today that also fixes a few bugs and makes it even more xrun-proof.

Hi Ico,

Thanks for the tip!

I was able to get [disis_wiimote] compiled and working after:
1) Changing the #include not to assume extended (cuz I run vanilla)
2) Adding -fPIC to the LINUXCFLAGS because I'm running 64-bit.

I haven't yet tried Roman's suggestion debian-sid flavor of [wiimote] 
with Pd, but will try to in the next few days.


One difference between the two -- [disis_wiimote] seems to use 
bang/metro based polling, but [wiimote] does not.  Does [wiimote] just 
do the polling internally?


-jason
http://noisybox.net

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Re: [PD] [wiimote] accelerometer data missing?

2011-04-14 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
 Hi Ico,
 
 Thanks for the tip!
 
 I was able to get [disis_wiimote] compiled and working after:
 1) Changing the #include not to assume extended (cuz I run vanilla)
 2) Adding -fPIC to the LINUXCFLAGS because I'm running 64-bit.
 
 I haven't yet tried Roman's suggestion debian-sid flavor of [wiimote]
 with Pd, but will try to in the next few days.
 
 One difference between the two -- [disis_wiimote] seems to use
 bang/metro based polling, but [wiimote] does not.  Does [wiimote] just
 do the polling internally?

Yep, whenever cwiid sends its info to it which often breaks the Pd GUI since 
that message can arrive in the middle of updating gui queue, effectively 
crashing the gui (even though the engine continues to run, no further updates 
are possible to the tcl/tk gui), hence the original wiimote implementation (at 
least last time I checked it) is in this respect buggy. Likewise (again, last 
time I checked) it does not have threaded design as disis_wiimote has, which 
means any time you send rumble command or change LED command via the wiimote 
object, it will result in an xrun (at least it does on lower powered machines 
like netbooks).

Given that wiimote cannot send updates more than approx. 40 times a second, 
overburdening your patch with as-fast-as-possible output seems unnecessary, 
hence the metro implementation. In addition, disis_wiimote also outputs button 
data only when it actually changes to minimize redundant computation 
downstream. It also gives you a dedicated output for connection which can be 
conveniently used to automate things upon connection.

Hope this helps!


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