Re: [PD] Puckette Lectures?
On 07-May-2011, at 1:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: They are still being processed, etc. They will be ultimately hosted on UCSD's site. It'll be announced once ready. If you want to get them now, you can buy a cool BANG USB thumbdrive with all the videos and patches, and support pd-la. That's not really a solution because it requires living in LA (no shipping). You don't believe everybody does, do you? :-) Jurgen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 03:05 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: anyhow, you might want to update your tcl/tk. I have to find where did I put my pd-vanilla makefile.mingw or code another one to have 8.5 in it. no need for that. since 0.43, Pd doesn't link against libtcl any more; so you should be able to just replace wish.exe and the accompanying tcl/tk libraries (tk.dll and the like), restart and by happy. famsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FD68ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS0yQCgmOWdis0GsNGjPhM29yO7F725 BeoAoMyZN8L6eg38UYxxLnNArSMj5ErX =2U9G -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 05:14 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Why you use Xubuntu??? try Ubuntu... i worked with open cv, pidip and other maybe because xfce is lighter and cooler than gnome? apart from the different desktop environment, there is no difference between xubuntu and ubuntu (afaik) fgas IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FELkACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS0ogCggcqq/k6qxFnKp6D9P8ddzlen 3nIAn2ftavjW4nvHDWk95G23QzHYEAgv =bN8K -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 08:45 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Hi list! If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come really slowly, Pd is designed to have a constant latency. so Pd's (and the system's) latency will never when moving a slider (well, unless you control a delay with the slider or do some other explicit latency fuddling, but that's a different story) or maybe you are referring to GUI latency? e.g the slider starts to visually respond very slowly (it seems like in CM-talk, latency mostly refers to audio latency). without having looked at your patch, a good chance is that you have created some control feedback. fgmasdrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FEc8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR1fQCdEGsRD4QqEaMLxhJpEr3MblTO kpcAoPTP2Rf14/nCN+GI3IOhBTP9B4xV =Oh4I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
Ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu are all the same distro with just a different flavor for the window manager system (X). On May 7, 2011 9:34 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 08:45 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Hi list! If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come really slowly, Pd is designed to have a constant latency. so Pd's (and the system's) latency will never when moving a slider (well, unless you control a delay with the slider or do some other explicit latency fuddling, but that's a different story) or maybe you are referring to GUI latency? e.g the slider starts to visually respond very slowly (it seems like in CM-talk, latency mostly refers to audio latency). without having looked at your patch, a good chance is that you have created some control feedback. fgmasdrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FEc8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR1fQCdEGsRD4QqEaMLxhJpEr3MblTO kpcAoPTP2Rf14/nCN+GI3IOhBTP9B4xV =Oh4I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
hi hans, thanks for testing On Mac OS X, I can't select the the ?? Why did you need to override ::dialog_font::ok? Perhaps something needs to be fixed so you don't need to do that. to be able to change the completion fontsize on the fly when changing the fontsize via ::dialog_font instead of editing *.cfg, restarting, etc I forgot to use the config(font_size) there btw, will fix that little bugs: - type a letter in the box, highlight the letter with the mouse, then hit Tab, and I get a Tcl error - arrow keys or typing doesn't work in pop-up menu on which OS ? I can't reproduce any of those neither on linux nor osx (tcl-8.5). there seem to be weird focus thingz going on on os x. I'll try to simplify the whole focus behavior. A couple little suggestions: - for simplicity's sake, the namespace should be named the same as the plugin, perhaps the plugin could also be called 'completion'. makes sense, I'll do that - pd will automatically post which plugins its loaded if you switch the Pd window to the debug level, so you probably don't need the pdtk_post at the end. IMHO it would be better to see what kind of extra libs/plugins are loaded without debug level (it's easy to forget that you have this maybe-buggy thing in your path). I'd vote for posting those by default. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] [gemdead]
I've just come across [pix-preview], which is part of the pdvjtools package http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_pdvjtoolsmedia=start:pix_preview_help_patch.png Looks like it does similar to [gem_see] object that was just created... On 30 April 2011 20:06, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: This is amazing, thanks to you both! Ant On 30 April 2011 18:05, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Something like this could help. ++ Jack Le samedi 30 avril 2011 à 12:06 +0100, ALAN BROOKER a écrit : Hey Ant, This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see for gem' but haven't perfected it yet. The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer to pix object then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing this tho The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips here too! All the best Al On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC. Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube] as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so far Ant On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: from irc #dataflow : hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as [cube] and [sphere] in gridflow? In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from using OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be doing much that is related to it, therefore : [gemhead] | [b] | [gemdead] | [cube] will really draw the cube as if you had done : [gemhead] | [cube] I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find exceptions, please tell me. But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as long as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the buffer to the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the time to draw. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Gridflow-dev mailing list gridflow-...@lists.artengine.ca http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 01:58 PM, yvan volochine wrote: IMHO it would be better to see what kind of extra libs/plugins are loaded without debug level (it's easy to forget that you have this maybe-buggy thing in your path). I'd vote for posting those by default. i'd do a gui-plugin that raises the debug-level. fgasmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FUZ0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRVdgCfe1LpP79W4DdskXReW8jtwFGq HAQAoKDXkYdaCbwko5YZ8ZHkumiWBPFm =hCDJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- debug-plugin.tcl Description: Tcl script ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
Asunto: Re: [PD] problem with mixer project De: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Fecha: Sat, 07 May 2011 11:33:03 +0200 Para: pd-list@iem.at Para: pd-list@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 08:45 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Hi list! If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come really slowly, Pd is designed to have a constant latency. so Pd's (and the system's) latency will never when moving a slider (well, unless you control a delay with the slider or do some other explicit latency fuddling, but that's a different story) or maybe you are referring to GUI latency? e.g the slider starts to visually respond very slowly (it seems like in CM-talk, latency mostly refers to audio latency). without having looked at your patch, a good chance is that you have created some control feedback. Reading my mail I realized that I did not explain it all: the latency problem starts when the dac~ is computing audio. As you can see in the mixer, when I rise the master volume audio computation starts, meanwhile if I set master volume to zero it ends. It is while computing audio that the latency problem exists, so I guess the control side is not the problem (am I in the right logic?) Nevertheless I have done what I believe is an extensive control check in my patch, before and after finding that deleting the mixer channels the problem ended. After that I did another control check on the mixer part of the patch and found no control feedback (my checks are visual, following line after line, so, as human, I might be wrong, but I cannot find my error if I did one). It seems that the latency is present not only in GUI. I send the values to a symbol in the main patch to see what I am doing, so I am preety sure I also hear the audio consecuences with the same latency (the audio rises just when the mixer volume rises, about a second after moving the slider if dac~ is on). Anyway, I will look for some other posibilities of control feedback. Thank you for your advice fgmasdrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FEc8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR1fQCdEGsRD4QqEaMLxhJpEr3MblTO kpcAoPTP2Rf14/nCN+GI3IOhBTP9B4xV =Oh4I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list@iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
Asunto: Re: [PD] problem with mixer project De: Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Fecha: Fri, 6 May 2011 23:14:57 -0400 Para: Fernando Gadea fga...@gmail.com Para: Fernando Gadea fga...@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at Hi...¿Kernel? ... probablemente debas compilar un kernel de baja latencia...tiene poca ram y un procesador pequeño, igual debería funcionar... I am not really a power user, but I haven' t had latency problems before, so maybe this is not the central problem (but I understand that you may be right and I could improve performance with a kernel change, only that, if I can solve this latency problem in an easyer inside-puredata way, I will leave it for a later macro-system optimizing stage) Maybe you could compile a low latency kernel... your processor is slow, but must go on... check the latency... Why you use Xubuntu??? try Ubuntu... i worked with open cv, pidip and other in a little cpu... As Iohannes lets think, I use xfce for its lightness and minimalistic user interface. I hope there is not a problem in the interaction between puredata and xubuntu's xfce environment. Try mixer~ objetct Thank you, I will substitute the before-master audio mixing with this object and see if the problem solves, at least as an alternative try. Gracias, y mejores deseos Fernando Best regards José El 6 de mayo de 2011 15:45, Fernando Gadea fga...@gmail.com mailto:fga...@gmail.com escribió: Hi list! I am trying to design a mixer with integrated effects on each channel. The effects part is not started yet, and I have a particular problem with the mixer itself: If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come really slowly, and then if I move any other volume slider (of the mixing channels of any other values in the master patch, being instrument values or sequencer values) the latency still is really big. I tryed deleting all the mixing channels and moving the master level slider and there is no problem then, so I guess the problem is in the mixing channels. I also tryed deleting all the instruments and it didn't solve the problem neither. As you see the mixing channels are all abstractions (canalmezcla n), and the master itself is one of these abstractions. I am running puredata Extended 0.41.4 in Xubuntu in an HP Pavilion dv 1680us 1.83 Ghz + 1 Gb ram. I believe the hardware is not the problem, and the rest of the patch works fine. Thanks for any tip! Fernando ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 12:58 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Asunto: Re: [PD] problem with mixer project De: Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Fecha: ot, you got weird reply-settings. As Iohannes lets think, I use xfce for its lightness and minimalistic user interface. I hope there is not a problem in the interaction between puredata and xubuntu's xfce environment. there is definitely no problem with xfce4 and Pd. i use it all the time. Try mixer~ objetct Thank you, I will substitute the before-master audio mixing with this object and see if the problem solves, at least as an alternative try. i still believe that you have a problem in your patch (which will go away if you don't use the patch; however it would probably be more interesting on the long run to find out what caused your problem) fg,asd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FU10ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT2jACg5OKwcNInqvw5J7YCpJsypVX8 Li8AoIexnlelbtWvA9ZFPd+9lg60mZKA =tjJC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 12:58 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Reading my mail I realized that I did not explain it all: the latency problem starts when the dac~ is computing audio. As you can see in the i still have no clue what you mean by latency. please clarify. fgasmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FU6IACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQKigCeOXeqjIKUMC6oSl+B+jlQ5ePt gNIAn0brIpG/I77hl+rNg/UDHsmlKq+y =KeQa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 04:13 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i still have no clue what you mean by latency. please clarify. you probably should have a closer look at [delay] and what it does if you send it a number. ah, btw, you could simplify the following complex [expr $f1; if ($f1 == 0, 0, 1] | ++ | [change] | [select 1 0] | [;pd dsp 0( [;pd dsp 1( /complex to this simple [!= 0] (actually this should be [ 0] | [change] | [;pd dsp $1( /simple gdsft IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FVi8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQu4QCglguloZgIt7TIKiomT1QV/Nhe uxYAoJH7wkFP3IlWgpaWa2QRXiPmci4J =DHWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] linking gem library on w32 mingw [was:Re: [Gridflow-dev] [gemdead]]
I tried to compile a pix_preview dll, it's almost there after some little hacks in source code: pix_preview.cc: #ifdef _WIN32 #define _WIN32_WINNT 0x0501 #include ws2tcpip.h #include windows.h #else #include netinet/in.h #include sys/socket.h #include arpa/inet.h #include netdb.h #endif pix_preview.h: #ifndef _WIN32 #include netinet/in.h #include sys/socket.h #include arpa/inet.h #include netdb.h #endif but now something for the linking is missing, it looks like it's the same error we get when compiling gridflow_gem library: undefined reference to: « vtable for GemPixObj » « imageStruct::~imageStruct() » « GemBase::~GemBase() » let me guess, gem have to be compiled first, anyone has done this on mingw? - Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com a écrit : I've just come across [pix-preview], which is part of the pdvjtools package http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_pdvjtoolsmedia=start:pix_preview_help_patch.png Looks like it does similar to [gem_see] object that was just created... On 30 April 2011 20:06, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: This is amazing, thanks to you both! Ant On 30 April 2011 18:05, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Something like this could help. ++ Jack Le samedi 30 avril 2011 à 12:06 +0100, ALAN BROOKER a écrit : Hey Ant, This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see for gem' but haven't perfected it yet. The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer to pix object then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing this tho The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips here too! All the best Al On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC. Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube] as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so far Ant On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: from irc #dataflow : hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as [cube] and [sphere] in gridflow? In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from using OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be doing much that is related to it, therefore : [gemhead] | [b] | [gemdead] | [cube] will really draw the cube as if you had done : [gemhead] | [cube] I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find exceptions, please tell me. But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as long as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the buffer to the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the time to draw. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Gridflow-dev mailing list gridflow-...@lists.artengine.ca http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] writing dsp externals for variable number of inlets
Hello, I want to write an external which creates the signal inlets dynamically depending on the number of arguments, just like the multiplex~ object from zexy. My question is about writing the dsp_add function. How do I set the arguments when I don't exactly know how many signals I will be handling? I hope my question is appropriate for the list (first post)? Thanks. -- ahmet kizilay http://www.ahmetkizilay.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] writing dsp externals for variable number of inlets
Hi, Ahmet I don't know how to create a variable argument type of function definition for this purpose, but it should be clear that your dsp function knows how many inlets there will be. You will be setting the number of inlets when the object is created. You could make a maximum number of inlets and add a data structure element to store the number of inlets. Then, in your dsp function, put a case statement to look up the dsp_add call with the correct number of arguments. I'm not sure that's the best way, since dsp_add has a variable number of arguments in its definition. It would make sense to me if function calls had to have a fixed number of arguments, but I'm just not sure. Chuck On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ahmet Kizilay ahmet.kizi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I want to write an external which creates the signal inlets dynamically depending on the number of arguments, just like the multiplex~ object from zexy. My question is about writing the dsp_add function. How do I set the arguments when I don't exactly know how many signals I will be handling? I hope my question is appropriate for the list (first post)? Thanks. -- ahmet kizilay http://www.ahmetkizilay.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Puckette Lectures?
If anyone who isn't in the L.A. area wants one of the USB sticks, please e-mail me off list (theron.trowbri...@gmail.com) and let me know where you would want it shipped. I will handle the shipping of these myself, and will let you know what shipping costs would be. We don't (yet) have the infrastructure to ship items from the store, which is why that bit is there, but for the most part the CRASHspace store is there for our members, most of whom are local. But I do appreciate that this is an item that other folks might want, so I will do my best to accomodate shipping requests. -Theron ^ 2011/5/6 jurgen noise@gmail.com: On 07-May-2011, at 1:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: They are still being processed, etc. They will be ultimately hosted on UCSD's site. It'll be announced once ready. If you want to get them now, you can buy a cool BANG USB thumbdrive with all the videos and patches, and support pd-la. That's not really a solution because it requires living in LA (no shipping). You don't believe everybody does, do you? :-) Jurgen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
On May 7, 2011, at 10:05 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 01:58 PM, yvan volochine wrote: IMHO it would be better to see what kind of extra libs/plugins are loaded without debug level (it's easy to forget that you have this maybe-buggy thing in your path). I'd vote for posting those by default. i'd do a gui-plugin that raises the debug-level. That's always a possibility, you can set the default debug level with a one liner like: set ::loglevel 4 As for what should be the default behavior, that's a tough question. I've heard from a lot of newbies that having lots of text in the Pd window at startup is quite intimidating, so I think its good to really only show errors and strong warnings by default. More advanced users can hopefully figure out how to set the log level. .hc Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
IMHO it would be better to see what kind of extra libs/plugins are loaded without debug level (it's easy to forget that you have this maybe-buggy thing in your path). I'd vote for posting those by default. i'd do a gui-plugin that raises the debug-level. That's always a possibility, you can set the default debug level with a one liner like: set ::loglevel 4 As for what should be the default behavior, that's a tough question. I've heard from a lot of newbies that having lots of text in the Pd window at startup is quite intimidating, so I think its good to really only show errors and strong warnings by default. More advanced users can hopefully figure out how to set the log level. I see gui-plugins more like add-ons and seeing that some of them behave strangely, I think it's a good habit to have infos about external libs being loaded in default debug level. from a noob pov it could easily lead to problems such as: - why is pd behaving strangely suddenly ? - remove all your gui-plugins and try again ? - ooh, I forgot that I used xxx-plugin which is breaking pd ! this kind of infos posted at startup would make sense to me: Gem version x Gridflow version x xxx-plugin version x ... but maybe that's just me ;) I understand your point though and I'll remove it from my code. cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Arduino (again...)
Hello! I'm looking for a way to automate the opening of my arduino and it's pins. I managed to open it at pd's start-up with a loadbang and an open message. But it doesn't work for the digital pins. It seems like they need to be opened a little later, and not all at once. I tried to delay the loadbang and use and trigger, to no avail. Any advice? Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] writing dsp externals for variable number of inlets
Hi, Thanks for your reply. I looked through the source code and found out about the dsp_addv method, which was created specifically for this purpose. Best, On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ahmet I don't know how to create a variable argument type of function definition for this purpose, but it should be clear that your dsp function knows how many inlets there will be. You will be setting the number of inlets when the object is created. You could make a maximum number of inlets and add a data structure element to store the number of inlets. Then, in your dsp function, put a case statement to look up the dsp_add call with the correct number of arguments. I'm not sure that's the best way, since dsp_add has a variable number of arguments in its definition. It would make sense to me if function calls had to have a fixed number of arguments, but I'm just not sure. Chuck On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ahmet Kizilay ahmet.kizi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I want to write an external which creates the signal inlets dynamically depending on the number of arguments, just like the multiplex~ object from zexy. My question is about writing the dsp_add function. How do I set the arguments when I don't exactly know how many signals I will be handling? I hope my question is appropriate for the list (first post)? Thanks. -- ahmet kizilay http://www.ahmetkizilay.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ahmet kizilay http://www.ahmetkizilay.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] writing dsp externals for variable number of inlets
On Sat, 7 May 2011, Ahmet Kizilay wrote: Hello, I want to write an external which creates the signal inlets dynamically depending on the number of arguments, just like the multiplex~ object from zexy. My question is about writing the dsp_add function. How do I set the arguments when I don't exactly know how many signals I will be handling? For passing a variable number of args to dsp_add itself, use dsp_addv instead. In any case, one of the fixed arguments has to be saying how many arguments there will be, or one of the variable arguments has to be telling it, or one of the arguments has to point to a struct that says it. It's similar to how functions that depend on stdarg.h provide variable length lists of arguments. class_addmethod says end of arguments by passing A_NULL. printf's format strings have %-codes that tell you how many extra args there are. some functions in pd want format strings like ffsfsffp; to say two floats, one symbol, one float, etc., to announce the upcoming arguments in a function call. some other functions pass just an integer that says n arguments are upcoming, such as dsp_add itself. (you know what I mean ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
Asunto: Re: [PD] problem with mixer project De: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Fecha: Sat, 07 May 2011 16:12:45 +0200 Para: pd-list@iem.at Para: pd-list@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2011 12:58 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Asunto: Re: [PD] problem with mixer project De: Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Fecha: ot, you got weird reply-settings. It's manual editing. I receive the list as digests but I try to simplify to gain legibility (I hope it works) As Iohannes lets think, I use xfce for its lightness and minimalistic user interface. I hope there is not a problem in the interaction between puredata and xubuntu's xfce environment. there is definitely no problem with xfce4 and Pd. i use it all the time. Try mixer~ objetct Thank you, I will substitute the before-master audio mixing with this object and see if the problem solves, at least as an alternative try. i still believe that you have a problem in your patch (which will go away if you don't use the patch; however it would probably be more interesting on the long run to find out what caused your problem) yes, that's my aim too, but it will be another possible test (I will do it tonight) to find out if the problem is really in the mixing channels. I deffinetly would like to stick to the original project and see where the problem is. Reading my mail I realized that I did not explain it all: the latency problem starts when the dac~ is computing audio. As you can see in the i still have no clue what you mean by latency. please clarify. It is midi latency I guess (I have no degree in electronic music. just an amateur that started with puredata some years ago). After switching audio on, even in the primal midi patch that translates my controller to control data the numbers start to show really late. Is that midi latency? you probably should have a closer look at [delay] and what it does if you send it a number. Thank you, I have just found it out: it changes the delay time instead of giving a bang after the already setted delay time. I'll change it now. ah, btw, you could simplify the following complex [expr $f1; if ($f1 == 0, 0, 1] | ++ | [change] | [select 1 0] | [;pd dsp 0( [;pd dsp 1( /complex to this simple [!= 0] (actually this should be [ 0] | [change] | [;pd dsp $1( /simple Thank you, I will implement this one. Really simple. gdsft IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FVi8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQu4QCglguloZgIt7TIKiomT1QV/Nhe uxYAoJH7wkFP3IlWgpaWa2QRXiPmci4J =DHWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] CVs
I just got out of a long and heated argument with someone who claimed he was an EE and told me that digital synthesizers use CVs. I tried to explain to him that if they did, it would be ONLY a numerical conversion so he was wrong and he still insisted that digital synthesizers used CVs. Has anyone had this kind of experience? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
