Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread tim vets
John Cage's 4'33'' in one object

2011/10/14 hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.com

 more objects now, but actually sounding somewhat like a dance track

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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread hardoff goes bananas
the lack of option to start that delay also fits well with the zen
philosophy behind 4'33

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:44 PM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote:

 John Cage's 4'33'' in one object

 2011/10/14 hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.com

 more objects now, but actually sounding somewhat like a dance track

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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread hardoff goes bananas
pd zen:

if a delay is in a patch, and there is no bang to start it, how long is the
delay?



On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:50 PM, hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.comwrote:

 the lack of option to start that delay also fits well with the zen
 philosophy behind 4'33


 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 3:44 PM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote:

 John Cage's 4'33'' in one object

 2011/10/14 hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.com

  more objects now, but actually sounding somewhat like a dance track

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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread Simon Wise

On 14/10/11 14:44, tim vets wrote:

John Cage's 4'33'' in one object


I think it needs three, the environment is part of it!

Simon
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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread Richie Cyngler
trance dance preset revolution

a little OT sorry

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 On 14/10/11 14:44, tim vets wrote:

 John Cage's 4'33'' in one object


 I think it needs three, the environment is part of it!

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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread Py Fave
hi list

1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame
server implementation?
any way to redirect gem output ?

2. is it possible to output  opengl data for recording and replay?





2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu

  This is really awesome it works

  pp

   From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +
 To: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

   Hey Vade
 I REALLY want to test this out
 Can you help me get it going?

  pp

   From: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

   http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png

  http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125

  Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to
 publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture
 the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by
 adjusting the gemhead layer ordering).  Nor have I made a 'client' version
 that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans
 Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can
 have a fully working Syphon implementation for GEM quickly enough.

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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread hardoff goes bananas
cheers, 5.78 hz on that right hand phasor makes a really cool arp line.



On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:

 trance dance preset revolution

 a little OT sorry

 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14/10/11 14:44, tim vets wrote:

 John Cage's 4'33'' in one object


 I think it needs three, the environment is part of it!

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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
h

looked at this briefly there is video4jack I have never tried it

http://www.piksel.org/videojack

but it sounds similiar to syphon (I think?) I dont think there are any gem
objectswould be interesting to see it work...any thoughts?



On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi list

 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame
 server implementation?
 any way to redirect gem output ?

 2. is it possible to output  opengl data for recording and replay?





 2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu

  This is really awesome it works

 pp

 From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +
 To: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  Hey Vade
 I REALLY want to test this out
 Can you help me get it going?

 pp

 From: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png

 http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125

 Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to
 publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture
 the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by
 adjusting the gemhead layer ordering).  Nor have I made a 'client' version
 that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans
 Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can
 have a fully working Syphon implementation for GEM quickly enough.

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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Actually I think there might be a pdp object look @ video piping
http://www.piksel.no/pwiki/VideoPiping

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote:

 h

 looked at this briefly there is video4jack I have never tried it

 http://www.piksel.org/videojack

 but it sounds similiar to syphon (I think?) I dont think there are any gem
 objectswould be interesting to see it work...any thoughts?



 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi list

 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame
 server implementation?
 any way to redirect gem output ?

 2. is it possible to output  opengl data for recording and replay?





 2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu

  This is really awesome it works

 pp

 From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +
 To: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  Hey Vade
 I REALLY want to test this out
 Can you help me get it going?

 pp

 From: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png

 http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125

 Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to
 publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture
 the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by
 adjusting the gemhead layer ordering).  Nor have I made a 'client' version
 that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans
 Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can
 have a fully working Syphon implementation for GEM quickly enough.

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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread Max

Am 14.10.2011 um 11:35 schrieb Py Fave:

 hi list 
 
 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame 
 server implementation? 
 any way to redirect gem output ?

gstreamer
http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention09/zmolnig.pdf/view

already works since 2009 afaik.

m.
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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread martin brinkmann
improved version of my 1st one (got rid of the lame random), another
feedback-based, and a fm-tuningfork with echo.

bis denn!
martin
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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread vade

Unfortunately, those solutions read back to main memory, which is slow, and 
adds a lot of latency and processor overhead.

Syphon works directly on the GPU, sharing the OpenGL resources directly, app to 
app, no readback or round tripping. This allows sharing to any resolution your 
GPU supports (assuming you have the fill rate and VRam). I've personally been 
able to do 2K ARGB frames at around 30fps, from one app to another. This will 
depend greatly on your GPU and system load however.


On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Max wrote:

 
 Am 14.10.2011 um 11:35 schrieb Py Fave:
 
 hi list 
 
 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame 
 server implementation? 
 any way to redirect gem output ?
 
 gstreamer
 http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention09/zmolnig.pdf/view
 
 already works since 2009 afaik.
 
 m.
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Re: [PD] Keyboard shortcuts for nudge, done editing

2011-10-14 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2011-10-11 à 11:37:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

I work to make sure that everything in Pd-extended is GPLv3 compatible. 

[...]

Everything in Pd-extended is GPLv3,


I think that it's better to remain picky in the manner of saying things 
like that, and not confuse GPLv3 and GPLv3-compatible. You could be saying 
something like « All licenses of all parts of Pd-extended are 
GPLv3-compatible and it will remain like that ».


This causes less confusion than claiming things about a whole when people 
don't know what the whole is supposed to mean.


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[PD] pdmtl users group

2011-10-14 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


(replying to irc conversation between Maxime and Hans)

_hc maxster: how was the patching circle?
maxster _hc: when?
maxster pdmtl is sunday
_hc oh, I thought there was just one that happned

That's because maxster posted about the change of location of pdmtl, which 
was supposed to happen at the FouLab hackerspace, but maxster had made a 
mistake with the schedule and decided to relocate the upcoming meeting to 
Concordia university. You assumed that he was talking about a current 
event. That was some minutes before I posted on pd-announce saying « 16 
octobre », because I was waiting for maxster's cue.


maxster not that much of a patching circle, more of a show and tell

There is always an aspect of giving patching tips to each other, but the 
fact is that the show-and-tell aspect of it is really driving the group. 
Part of it is because I expect it to be that way, and part of it is 
because people expect me to take the lead. I figure that if there were 
really a need for patching together in those meeting, someone would make a 
serious proposition and it would become a big item on the schedule. I have 
often said that people can propose other things than presentations 
(performances, tutorials, roundtables, patching, etc.) but I often say 
just « presentations » because of the habit of rarely ever having other 
things on the schedule. No matter what's in the schedule, chit-chat 
usually fills until the meeting becomes longer than the planned 240-minute 
span. I might call it chit-chat but it's usually on-topic.


Btw I just updated the collection of all announcements to include all past 
meetings (now there are 43 instead of 30). It doesn't include all the 
errata and addenda though. The list of links is in the middle of this 
page :


  http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtl

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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread TAD BISAHA

Hi Tim, Hi all,
about Cage, I have 2 other proposals.
Music for the Pure data's users.pd
(If you follow indications at the bottom of patch, you will be in 
capacity to appreciate (shall I be optimistic?) my (our?) adaptation of 
a certain silence of John Cage.)


Les bruits cachés des petits silences déjà vus...pd
(no comment, all is in the title.)

Au plaisir
Tad


tim vets a écrit :

John Cage's 4'33'' in one object

2011/10/14 hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.com 
mailto:hard@gmail.com


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Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds

2011-10-14 Thread Richie Cyngler
As long as we're doing conceptual patches...  I win! (does include the
environment, I'm here).

2011/10/15 TAD BISAHA tadbis...@gmail.com

 **
 Hi Tim, Hi all,
 about Cage, I have 2 other proposals.
 Music for the Pure data's users.pd
 (If you follow indications at the bottom of patch, you will be in capacity
 to appreciate (shall I be optimistic?) my (our?) adaptation of a certain
 silence of John Cage.)
 
 Les bruits cachés des petits silences déjà vus...pd
 (no comment, all is in the title.)

 Au plaisir
 Tad


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 John Cage's 4'33'' in one object

 2011/10/14 hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.com

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