Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
On 16/01/12 20:19, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at least beta quality. Please test and let me know! http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/ Thanks a lot, much apprechiated on debian wheezy. Lorenzo. The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it back on tomorrow, finally. .hc On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon. .hc On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote: appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well. Startup Log: -- /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd: can't load startup library'! /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin Expected in: dynamic lookup Gem: can't load library - scott On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've included Miller's GOP fixes. Give it a whirl and report back how it works for you: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government." - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM quirky-ness on OS X
It seems to me that this should feature prominently in the docs somewhere. Something like "[pix_movie] is for special cases where you want to enable certain optimizations that don't work everywhere". Or even better, it would be great if [pix_movie] did work everywhere. .hc On Jan 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: > Yes. This fixed the problems I was having. > > On Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" wrote: > > I have found that [pix_movie] does this on many machines, but using > [pix_film] connected to a [pix_texture] works everywhere. > > .hc > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work. > > > > Some other weird issues are that my ".mov" file worked fine on linux > > but not at all on OS X. The only thing that would play it was VLC so I > > used that to transcode it and was able to get it working (albeit with > > the flashing) in other formats. But I noticed that when the frame > > motion was backwards, it would cause clicking in the audio. So I ended > > up transcoding it to jpeg and that got rid of the clicking but I still > > get the flashing. > > > > Any more suggestions? > > > > Pall > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM, chris clepper wrote: > >> Are you doing any pix_ processing? Sometimes still frames get double > >> processed causing unintended results. It has to do with Quicktime not > >> always giving the right indication that a new frame was delivered. Throw a > >> pix_separator in the chain and see if that does anything. > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi list. > >>> > >>> I'm working on a piece that's most likely going to be shown on a Macs > >>> running OS X and I'm running into a strange issue with GEM. The piece > >>> involves a short video clip that moves back and forth amongst the > >>> frames. As long as it's moving between frames, everything is fine. But > >>> as soon as it stops somewhere, it starts alternating between the > >>> correct colors and their opposites causing it to flash. This doesn't > >>> happen on linux, only on OS X. Anyone know why this is happening and > >>> how I can fix it? I've tried a variety of video formats but nothing > >>> seems to make a difference. Also, when it flashes to the opposite > >>> colors, it looks like the resolution changes. Weird. > >>> > >>> I would greatly appreciate any and all tips and suggestions. > >>> > >>> Pall > >>> > >>> -- > >>> * > >>> Pall Thayer > >>> artist > >>> http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > >>> * > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > * > > Pall Thayer > > artist > > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > > * > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize > his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or > perish.-William Carlos Williams > > "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM quirky-ness on OS X
I have found that [pix_movie] does this on many machines, but using [pix_film] connected to a [pix_texture] works everywhere. .hc On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work. > > Some other weird issues are that my ".mov" file worked fine on linux > but not at all on OS X. The only thing that would play it was VLC so I > used that to transcode it and was able to get it working (albeit with > the flashing) in other formats. But I noticed that when the frame > motion was backwards, it would cause clicking in the audio. So I ended > up transcoding it to jpeg and that got rid of the clicking but I still > get the flashing. > > Any more suggestions? > > Pall > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM, chris clepper wrote: >> Are you doing any pix_ processing? Sometimes still frames get double >> processed causing unintended results. It has to do with Quicktime not >> always giving the right indication that a new frame was delivered. Throw a >> pix_separator in the chain and see if that does anything. >> >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: >>> >>> Hi list. >>> >>> I'm working on a piece that's most likely going to be shown on a Macs >>> running OS X and I'm running into a strange issue with GEM. The piece >>> involves a short video clip that moves back and forth amongst the >>> frames. As long as it's moving between frames, everything is fine. But >>> as soon as it stops somewhere, it starts alternating between the >>> correct colors and their opposites causing it to flash. This doesn't >>> happen on linux, only on OS X. Anyone know why this is happening and >>> how I can fix it? I've tried a variety of video formats but nothing >>> seems to make a difference. Also, when it flashes to the opposite >>> colors, it looks like the resolution changes. Weird. >>> >>> I would greatly appreciate any and all tips and suggestions. >>> >>> Pall >>> >>> -- >>> * >>> Pall Thayer >>> artist >>> http://pallthayer.dyndns.org >>> * >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > > -- > * > Pall Thayer > artist > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > * > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] autocompletion bug report
On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:11 AM, yvan volochine wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 11:59 PM, olivier gailly wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> this plugin seems great but i have a problem installing it :
>>
>> UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tcl": have 8.4, need 8.5
>> while executing
>> "package require Tcl 8.5"
>> ("uplevel" body line 27)
>> invoked from within
>> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"
>> FAILED TO LOAD /Users/oliviergailly/Library/Pd/completion-plugin.tcl
>>
>> i have updated tcl and tk :
>>
>> The following ports are currently installed:
>> tcl @8.5.11_0 (active)
>>
>> i have tested various versions of pd, none are working. ( now i use vanilla
>> 43, the last released version, i have also checked with expended)
>>
>> only an old version of the plug is working : alpha0.32
>>
>> i have read somewhere in tha mail archive :
>> OSX note:
there are some focus problems with tcl8.5 (x11), but not with tcl8.5 built
with aqua support.
>>
>> is it the solution ? (if it is i need a quick tuto because i dont understand
>> the whole thing...)
>>
>> im using OSX. 10.6.8 32bit,
>>
>> so if you have a suggestion for me...
>
> hi Olivier
>
> thanks for reporting this (I post it to pd-list as well as it might be of
> interest for others)
>
> it seems you have several tcl installed together and the first one found is
> 8.4.
> in a tclsh shell, what does the following line outputs?
> `puts $tcl_version'
>
> alas I don't have access to any osx machine right now but IIRC I got it
> working on a mac by installing active-tcl and manually installing tclsh that
> came alongside but I'm not 100% sure.
>
> maybe some other osx users can give you more help ?
>
> in any case good luck,
Pd-vanilla 0.43 should use the built-in Tcl/Tk, which is 8.4 on 10.5 and 8.5 on
10.6 and newer. If there is another version of Tcl/Tk installed into
/Library/Frameworks, Pd-vanilla will use that one.
Pd-extended 0.43 includes its own custom version of Tcl/Tk 8.5 that takes
precedence of anything that is installed on the user's machine.
.hc
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at least beta quality. Please test and let me know! http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/ The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it back on tomorrow, finally. .hc On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon. > > .hc > > On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote: > >> appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th >> of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well. >> >> Startup Log: >> -- >> >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd: >> can't load startup library'! >> >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: >> dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, >> 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv >> Referenced from: >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin >> Expected in: dynamic lookup >> >> Gem: can't load library >> >> - >> >> scott >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner >> wrote: >>> >>> On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making >>> some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've >>> included Miller's GOP fixes. Give it a whirl and report back how it works >>> for you: >>> >>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't >>> have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by >>> Curtis White >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic > > "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government." - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
Subject: Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem? > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <4f1442f1.70...@iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2012-01-16 15:51, rolf meesters wrote: > > > > and now every time at a change in the rendering: > > GL: invalid operation > > is that with the intel gfx card? > the PIII has onboard video > could it be a dupe of [1]? > not as far as i can see. (i use fresh copies) i suspect [1] has something to do with using the pd open or close 'message' with a non-existing file. or what does "every time at a change in the rendering" mean exactly? > > every time the content of the GEM-window should change > try to find the object that actually causes the error. > you can use a [GEMglReportError] that will output a warning if an error > was raised since the last time any instance of [GEMglReportError] was > called (the error state is also reset inside [gemwin] during each > render-cycle..which is what causes the message to appear) > > it's not clear to me how to use this object, there's no help. connecting the inlet with a loadbang causes Pd/GEM to quit immediately. leaving the object by itself, with a print on the first outlet, gives nothing. i tried to use more then 16 k for the VideoRam: this also causes Pd/GEM to quit at rendering the first picture. just now i found in the system message.log after the crash: pdextended[1702]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfcc1acc error 4 in libpulse.so.0.12.2[11+4] doing it again: pdextended[2045]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfb87f3c error 4 in libasound.so.2.0.0[11+c3000] going back to the default VideoRam (= no changes made by me) pdextended[1431]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfe1aecc error 4 in libICE.so.6.3.0[11+15000] should i make a bug report on this? (i'm on Pd-ext 42.5 with GEM 92.3) rolf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Can't get [arduino] to work (any more)
Oh sorry it is port number 32 now (used to be between 1 and 5 before) Figured it out with the "devices" message... On 01/16/2012 05:43 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I haven't been using [arduino] and Pd-extended with my arduino for some time un Ubuntu; it used to work just fine on Ubuntu 10.10. In the meantime I have upgraded ubuntu to 11.10; I haven't touched Pd-extended and I'm using the same version of [arduino] (and the same arduino hardware of course). Usually I would just open the arduino-test sketch and try "open 0", "open 1" etc until it would connect (I have bad memory). Now there's no way it will connect. Whatever number I try it says: "[comport] ** ERROR ** could not get termios-structure of device /dev/ttySXXX" The Arduino IDE does succeed in uploading a sketch (unless it says "done uploading" without knowing). What may I be missing? thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Can't get [arduino] to work (any more)
Hi, I haven't been using [arduino] and Pd-extended with my arduino for some time un Ubuntu; it used to work just fine on Ubuntu 10.10. In the meantime I have upgraded ubuntu to 11.10; I haven't touched Pd-extended and I'm using the same version of [arduino] (and the same arduino hardware of course). Usually I would just open the arduino-test sketch and try "open 0", "open 1" etc until it would connect (I have bad memory). Now there's no way it will connect. Whatever number I try it says: "[comport] ** ERROR ** could not get termios-structure of device /dev/ttySXXX" The Arduino IDE does succeed in uploading a sketch (unless it says "done uploading" without knowing). What may I be missing? thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-01-16 15:51, rolf meesters wrote: > > and now every time at a change in the rendering: > GL: invalid operation is that with the intel gfx card? could it be a dupe of [1]? or what does "every time at a change in the rendering" mean exactly? try to find the object that actually causes the error. you can use a [GEMglReportError] that will output a warning if an error was raised since the last time any instance of [GEMglReportError] was called (the error state is also reset inside [gemwin] during each render-cycle..which is what causes the message to appear) fgmar IOhannes [1] https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3472490&group_id=55736&atid=478070 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8UQu4ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRxjgCgugSmu6zuNLgW+ErdiRRs0F23 308AmwR4WDHAkjVzsVFaVTB0dT4ES94w =lyFs -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Cyrille Henry wrote: > > > Le 16/01/2012 13:23, rolf meesters a écrit : > > >> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Cyrille Henry > c...@chnry.net>> wrote: >> >> >> >>Le 15/01/2012 18:13, rolf meesters a écrit : >> >>it's at the max of 64 Mb. >> >>do you have 16 pix_image? >>if you load 16 time the same image, you need 16 time more memory than >> necessary. >> >>then, you could use a single gemhead / pix_image / pix_texture to load >> the image and share the texture Id. >>then using gemhead/pix_texture(to load the texture Id)/pix_coordinate >> on your abstraction. >> >> >>also, you can only resize the image in order to fit in the available >> GPU memory. >> >>anyway, pd/GEM should not exit without warning. pd bug report should >> be made. >> >> >>Cyrille >> >> >> i have 16 pieces, which are parts of 1 big picture; like with a puzzle >> they have to be displayed at their specific coordinates. >> there's no pix_image involved. >> (the abstraction is attached) >> > ah, ok. > you're using a pix_buffer. good, the image is not loaded many time. > > so the only solution i can imagine is to resize the image in order to use > less memory. > > c > > a bit of progress: for the intel815 (which i have on the PIII) it is possible to set a value for VideoRam in xorg.conf. i made it 16384 kb: now Pd/GEM does not quit. the patch goes through the motions, there's a GEM-window, but only a white rectangle where a picture should be. GEM tells me that direct rendering is enabled, but still only 8 clor bits. and now every time at a change in the rendering: GL: invalid operation r > >> rolf >> btw thanks for reacting >> > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 0.43 on Ubuntu Lucid: GUI not right
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I think this is fixed in recent Pd-extended 0.43 builds. Could you try > it on your machine and let me know either way? > > .hc > > the build of 20120111 on Ubuntu Lucid works alright. there are still a lot of tclpd-loader messages (blank lines in 'normal' console), but no crash or strange behavior. OT why is it that in Linux-Pd the right-click needs to be helt while moving to a choice, and in Windows not, the latter being much more pleasant. rolf > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011, at 22:33, rolf meesters wrote: > > hi > > i don't know if this is a bug or a misfit. > > compiled latest 0.43 source on Ubuntu Lucid (Pentium 4). > > > > a GEM patch works faultlesly. > > > > with one audio patch, the GUI stays half finished, > > soundwise the patch seems ok. > > in the console there are red messages apparently from Tcl. > > (attached pic1). > > closing the patch generates a new message over and over: x97fc258 no > > such > > object > > (pic2). > > > > with another audio abstraction the GUI is correct, also all included > > abstractions. > > closing the patch generates again endlessly:x8483958 no such object. > > > > a third patch: audio ok, no GUI at all. > > it's not possible to change something in the console. > > here again like in pic1: > > Tcl UNHANDLED ERROR: wrong # args: should be "::pdwindow::logpost > > object_id > > level message" > > > > all patches are happy in 0.42.5 on W-XP > > and on 0.43.1-2011103 on Windows 7. > > > > bug or misfit? > > > > rolf > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > Email had 2 attachments: > > + pic1.png > > 26k (image/png) > > + pic2.png > > 14k (image/png) > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
Le 16/01/2012 13:23, rolf meesters a écrit : On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Cyrille Henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> wrote: Le 15/01/2012 18:13, rolf meesters a écrit : it's at the max of 64 Mb. do you have 16 pix_image? if you load 16 time the same image, you need 16 time more memory than necessary. then, you could use a single gemhead / pix_image / pix_texture to load the image and share the texture Id. then using gemhead/pix_texture(to load the texture Id)/pix_coordinate on your abstraction. also, you can only resize the image in order to fit in the available GPU memory. anyway, pd/GEM should not exit without warning. pd bug report should be made. Cyrille i have 16 pieces, which are parts of 1 big picture; like with a puzzle they have to be displayed at their specific coordinates. there's no pix_image involved. (the abstraction is attached) ah, ok. you're using a pix_buffer. good, the image is not loaded many time. so the only solution i can imagine is to resize the image in order to use less memory. c rolf btw thanks for reacting ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Cyrille Henry wrote: > > > Le 15/01/2012 18:13, rolf meesters a écrit : > > it's at the max of 64 Mb. >> > do you have 16 pix_image? > if you load 16 time the same image, you need 16 time more memory than > necessary. > > then, you could use a single gemhead / pix_image / pix_texture to load the > image and share the texture Id. > then using gemhead/pix_texture(to load the texture Id)/pix_coordinate on > your abstraction. > > > also, you can only resize the image in order to fit in the available GPU > memory. > > anyway, pd/GEM should not exit without warning. pd bug report should be > made. > > > Cyrille > i have 16 pieces, which are parts of 1 big picture; like with a puzzle they have to be displayed at their specific coordinates. there's no pix_image involved. (the abstraction is attached) rolf btw thanks for reacting gemk-n-alpha.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
