Re: [PD] Kinect mappings

2012-03-19 Thread Matthias Kronlachner

hi!

if you have installed latest unstables of openni and nite it should  
start tracking of a new user almost immediately without the need of a  
calibration pose.
what takes long time (at least on my machine) is the initialization  
process. (when you start gemwin)

for me pix_openni works much better and stable on linux.

if you have gem framerate at 30fps you get 15x30 joints with x,y,z  
coordinates per second.

it's really not an easy task to extract useful information out of it.
i lately added the skeleton smoothing feature, that can be very  
helpful to smoothen the output. (skeleton_smoothing 0.0-1.0)


what you need is a set of abstractions to make geometric calculations  
from the datastream, the ability to monitor/draw graphs and the  
interpretation of this data/gesture detection. iemmatrix can be  
practical for the vector calculations and to make the patches more  
readable.

i'm working in the moment on such abstractions but still a work in progress.



anyway i'm curious how the kinect for windows sdk is working.
with the built in speech recognition and source localization over the  
microphone array it has some advantages over openni/nite.
but for me the platform dependency is a no-go. so i won't work on an  
external with this framework in the future.

maybe someone else? :-)


matthias


Zitat von Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu:

I find that openni on the Mac takes to long to register the skeleton  
so we are using processing to track and osc the joints and  
relationships. I was originally just soliciting fun ideas for the  
huge data stream the kinect provides



Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A
Digital Media Engineer
UF Digital Worlds Institute
(352)294-2020


On Mar 18, 2012, at 5:49 AM, philippe boisnard  
philem...@mac.commailto:philem...@mac.com wrote:


Yes

I use pix_openni, it's for me in fact, the better solution.

p


Le 18 mars 2012 à 07:02, dreamer a écrit :

Why not use pix_openni to do the skeleton-tracking needed?
Then you can omit OSCeleton, which is quite limited anyway.



On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Pagano, Patrick  
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:

Hans
I think i looked at this before. Do you have DIlib? It seems like  
it's not available yet?

I thought i grabbed this before but that was on linux

pp

From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [h...@at.or.atmailto:h...@at.or.at]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:12 PM
To: Pagano, Patrick
Cc: pd-list@iem.atmailto:pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Kinect mappings


Check out William Brent's dilib:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html

.hc

On Mar 13, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

Hello

I am collaborating with a programmer who has developed a kinect  
streamer with windows SDK that sends data over udp.

I am soliciting some ideas on WHAT to do with the data stream.
We are thinking movies/models and midi, but I would love to hear  
some ideas regarding what to do with the data


Cheers~

pp

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Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

2012-03-19 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen

On 18/03/12 14:13, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway?


Attached example uses a custom particle system in Lua that also keeps 
track of various parameters for a GLSL shader.


Rather undocumented/hacky and might not work on any machine but mine... 
usual NO WARRANTY warning goes here...


If you want to see how it should look after it fails to run on your machine:
http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/v/gears/2012-01-14_gear_chain_v1.ogv 
(36MB)



Claude
uniform float cogs;
uniform float spokes;
uniform float dir;
uniform float sweep;
uniform float teeth;
uniform float hole;
uniform float radiusin;
uniform float radiusout;
uniform float threshin;
uniform float threshout;
uniform float spin;

void main(void) {
  vec2 p = gl_TexCoord[0].xy * 2.0 - 1.0;
  float r = length(p);
  if (1.0  r  r  hole) {
float a0 = atan(p.y, p.x);
float a = a0 + spin;
float tr = 1.0 - teeth * (1.0 - cos(cogs * a));
if (tr  r) {
  a *= spokes;
  a += dir * pow(sweep, r);
  float s = cos(a);
  float t = -2.0;
  float h = 10.0;
  float q = cos(8.0 * cogs * r * r);
  if (radiusout  r  r  radiusin) {
t = mix(threshin, threshout, (r - radiusin) / (radiusout - radiusin));
q = cos(5.0 * a);
  }
  if (s  t) {
vec3 u = vec3( cos(a0), sin(a0), 0.5 * q * (1.0 - r * r));
vec3 v = vec3(-sin(a0), cos(a0), 0.0);
vec3 n = normalize(cross(u, v));
vec3 l = normalize(vec3(vec2(960.0, 270.0) - gl_FragCoord.xy, 512.0));
float d = max(dot(l, n), 0.0);
vec3 f = 2.0 * d * n - l;
float c = 0.5 * pow(max(f.z, 0.0), h);
gl_FragColor = vec4(mix(0.5 * d * gl_Color.rgb, vec3(1.0), clamp(c, 
0.0, 1.0)), 1.0);
  } else {
discard;
  }
} else {
  discard;
}
  } else {
discard;
  }
}
#N canvas 2033 240 847 674 10;
#X obj 38 218 glsl_fragment gear.frag;
#X msg 189 219 link \$1;
#X obj 226 245 glsl_program;
#X obj 228 375 square;
#X obj 40 10 gemhead 10;
#X obj 228 346 color;
#X obj 245 149 route gear;
#X obj 39 112 gearbox;
#X obj 228 287 translateXYZ;
#X obj 335 253 unpack f f;
#X obj 39 153 gemlist;
#X obj 426 83 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0
1;
#X obj 227 414 translateXYZ;
#X obj 320 337 * -1;
#X obj 364 339 * -1;
#X obj 408 41 loadbang;
#X obj 409 110 gemwin 25;
#X msg 245 174 cogs \$1 \, spokes \$2 \, dir \$3 \, sweep \$4 \, teeth
\$5 \, hole \$6 \, radiusin \$7 \, radiusout \$8 \, threshin \$9 \,
threshout \$10 \, color \$11 \$12 \$13 \, scale \$14 \, translate \$15
\$16 \, spin \$17;
#X obj 245 219 route color scale translate;
#X obj 40 64 t b a;
#X msg 409 62 dimen 1920 540 \, create \, 1;
#X obj 17 402 pix_write 0 0 1920 540;
#X obj 21 32 t b a a;
#X msg 49 330 file /data/cm/gc/1/i 0;
#X msg 42 298 auto 1;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 0 1 1 0;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 8 0;
#X connect 3 0 12 0;
#X connect 4 0 22 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 0;
#X connect 6 0 17 0;
#X connect 7 0 10 0;
#X connect 7 1 6 0;
#X connect 8 0 5 0;
#X connect 9 0 8 1;
#X connect 9 0 13 0;
#X connect 9 1 8 2;
#X connect 9 1 14 0;
#X connect 10 0 0 0;
#X connect 11 0 16 0;
#X connect 13 0 12 1;
#X connect 14 0 12 2;
#X connect 15 0 20 0;
#X connect 17 0 18 0;
#X connect 18 0 5 1;
#X connect 18 1 3 1;
#X connect 18 2 9 0;
#X connect 18 3 2 0;
#X connect 19 0 7 0;
#X connect 19 1 10 1;
#X connect 20 0 16 0;
#X connect 22 1 21 0;
#X connect 22 2 19 0;
#X connect 23 0 21 0;
#X connect 24 0 21 0;
local G = pd.Class:new():register(gearbox)

math.randomseed(os.time())

local function distance(p, q)
  local dx = p.x - q.x
  local dy = p.y - q.y
  return math.sqrt(dx * dx + dy * dy)
end

function G:initialize(sel, atoms)
  self.inlets = 1
  self.outlets = 2
  self.spawnhue = 0
  self.spawnparity = true
  self.spawnrate = 10
  self.spawncounter = 0
  self.scrollspeed = 0.01
  self.scrollangle = 0
  self.friction = 0.975
  self.dt = 0.002
  self.gears = { }
  return true
end

function G:spawn()
  self.spawnhue = math.fmod(self.spawnhue + 1 / 32, 1)
  local t = self.spawnhue * 2 * math.pi
  -- rec.709 yuv2rgb
  local r = 0.5 + 0.25 * 1.28033 * math.sin(t)
  local g = 0.5 - 0.25 * 0.21482 * math.cos(t) - 0.25 * 0.38059 * math.sin(t)
  local b = 0.5 + 0.25 * 2.12798 * math.cos(t)
  local p = math.random()  0.5
  local c = math.floor(math.sqrt(math.random() * (144 - 25) + 25))
  local s = 3 * c / 24
  local h = (math.random() - 0.5) * 10
  local da = 0.4 * (math.random() - 0.5)
  local a
  if p then a = 2 * math.pi / c else a = - 2 * math.pi / c end
  local v = -0.5-math.random()
  table.insert(self.gears,
{ parity = p
, cogs = c
, size = s
, mass = s * s
, angle = math.random() * 2 * math.pi
, dangle = 4 * a
, position = { x = 20 * math.cos(self.scrollangle + da), y = 20 * 
math.sin(self.scrollangle + da) }
, dposition = { x = v * math.cos(self.scrollangle + da), y =  v * 
math.sin(self.scrollangle + da) }
, color = { r = r, g 

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pduino 0.5 maintenance release

2012-03-19 Thread José Luis Santorcuato Tapia
Hi, is a great new, but also is a sadness that do not continue with the
project, I must say was one of the most relevant contributions to media art
and physical computing.

A hug! and thank you!

José

2012/3/19 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 Pduino 0.5 is finally released after being stuck at 0.5beta8 for a long
 time.  This is a maintenance release, it will be my last release of Pduino
 for the foreseeable future.  Roman Haefeli and Olsen Wolf are working on
 new developments for Firmata for Pd, so follow their work.

 http://puredata.info/downloads/pduino/

 Most recent changes are:

 - use [comport] rather than [flatspace/comport] to work on Pd-extended
 0.41, 0.42, and 0.43

 - fix bug in tracking state of digital inputs, there was only one 8 pin
 object to track the state for all 8 ports of 8 pins (64 total digital
 inputs possible).

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pduino 0.5 maintenance release

2012-03-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 06:53:11AM -0400, José Luis Santorcuato Tapia wrote:
 Hi, is a great new, but also is a sadness that do not continue with the
 project, I must say was one of the most relevant contributions to media art
 and physical computing.

I've been using Roman and Olsen's version for a while now. It's much improved
and easier to get running on Pd installations including vanilla-based ones
because it avoids relying on the Pd-extended path layout where unneccessary.
Hans forgot to mention where to get it:
https://github.com/reduzent/pduino

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pduino 0.5 maintenance release

2012-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Thanks.  No need to be sad, it is not dying, just other people are working on 
it.  :-)  Pduino and Firmata live on without me, and the people working on it 
now know more about Arduinos and electronics than I do.

.hc

On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:53 AM, José Luis Santorcuato Tapia wrote:

 Hi, is a great new, but also is a sadness that do not continue with the 
 project, I must say was one of the most relevant contributions to media art 
 and physical computing.
 
 A hug! and thank you!
 
 José
 
 2012/3/19 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 
 Pduino 0.5 is finally released after being stuck at 0.5beta8 for a long time. 
  This is a maintenance release, it will be my last release of Pduino for the 
 foreseeable future.  Roman Haefeli and Olsen Wolf are working on new 
 developments for Firmata for Pd, so follow their work.
 
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pduino/
 
 Most recent changes are:
 
 - use [comport] rather than [flatspace/comport] to work on Pd-extended 0.41, 
 0.42, and 0.43
 
 - fix bug in tracking state of digital inputs, there was only one 8 pin 
 object to track the state for all 8 ports of 8 pins (64 total digital inputs 
 possible).
 
 .hc
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

2012-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

 On 18/03/12 14:13, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway?
 
 Attached example uses a custom particle system in Lua that also keeps track 
 of various parameters for a GLSL shader.
 
 Rather undocumented/hacky and might not work on any machine but mine... usual 
 NO WARRANTY warning goes here...
 
 If you want to see how it should look after it fails to run on your machine:
 http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/v/gears/2012-01-14_gear_chain_v1.ogv (36MB)

It just worked for me on Pd-extended 0.43.  Nice piece.

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[PD] how to compile pdlua in svn ?

2012-03-19 Thread Jack

Hello,

I would like to compile lua in the the pd svn :
trunk/externals/loaders/pdlua
But It seems README.txt is not updated (no trace of Makefile.static).
(I can compile my 'old' pdlua-0.5 but would like to compile the last 
version).

How can I proceed ?
Thanx.
++

Jack



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Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

2012-03-19 Thread Pagano, Patrick
That is really nice Claude.


-Original Message-
From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
Claude Heiland-Allen
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:02 AM
To: pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

On 18/03/12 14:13, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway?

Attached example uses a custom particle system in Lua that also keeps track of 
various parameters for a GLSL shader.

Rather undocumented/hacky and might not work on any machine but mine... 
usual NO WARRANTY warning goes here...

If you want to see how it should look after it fails to run on your machine:
http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/v/gears/2012-01-14_gear_chain_v1.ogv
(36MB)


Claude

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Re: [PD] how to compile pdlua in svn ?

2012-03-19 Thread Martin Peach

Hi Jack,

--cd trunk/externals
--make loaders-pdlua
or
--#make loaders-pdlua_install
will put everything in externals/build.

Martin

On 2012-03-19 10:29, Jack wrote:

Hello,

I would like to compile lua in the the pd svn :
trunk/externals/loaders/pdlua
But It seems README.txt is not updated (no trace of Makefile.static).
(I can compile my 'old' pdlua-0.5 but would like to compile the last
version).
How can I proceed ?
Thanx.
++

Jack



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Re: [PD] Patching Circle this Monday

2012-03-19 Thread sonia yuditskaya
Reminder,
patching circle is tonight from 6-9 at 319 Scholes in Brooklyn!
See you there!

Sofy Yuditskaya
s~ http://yuditskaya.com




On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would change that to Pd is free as in freedom, love, jazz and beer.

 That is an awesome one liner =)


 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM, sonia yuditskaya marysgh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes please use it Richie, and add and remove as needed.

 By the way, is PD free as in beer, freedom, love or jazz?

 And also please accept my apologies for the spelling mistakes, I was in
 France using a keyboard where the a and q are inverted.

 Sofy Yuditskaya
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 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Sofy,

 I'm trying to set up a patching circle in Melbourne Australia (found a
 great venue today). I really like the text you have here can I use some of
 it please?

 Power to patchers!

 thanks

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:24 AM, sonia yuditskaya marysgh...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Patching Circle This Monday March 19 at 319 Scholes!

 319 Scholes Street, Brooklyn NY 11206

 6-9 pm

 We will expunge the mysteries of the DMX Shield for Arduino and play
 around with More telephone sounds. Come tqke qdvqntqge of the venue space,
 engage in some live jams, or just come by to hang out. And also there
 is beer!

 The New York City Patching Circle is an free monthly meeting open to
 all for anyone who is interested in media programming. We mostly use Pd and
 Max/MSP, but all are welcome.

 We spend enough time alone staring at our computers; we are proposing
 to work together. So often issues that arise when working can be solved
 with a quick two minute discussion that would take hours to solve alone. We
 have Dorkbot to see people's work, we have Share where anyone can play, we
 have workshops and universities to learn from. This is a meeting where we
 all can come to work.

 This is an informal gathering of patching and patchers (Pd, Max/MSP/
 Jitter, and even , Eyesweb, Labview, etc.). Beginners and Experienced
 welcome. Open to everyone, students, the public, etc. Work on personal
 projects, professional projects, school projects, ask for help, help
 others, or just patch quietly to yourself, in a room full of other people
 patching patches and helping other people patch.

 rawk,
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[PD] ~/Library/Pd takes precedent over /extra?

2012-03-19 Thread m.e.grimm
i don't know why i don't know this answer off the top of my head but I
also cant find it anywhere...

Where will Pd look first? ~/Library/Pd OR /extra? And if it finds the
same lib in ~/Library/Pd AND /extra which will it load? I was just
thinking because I have some libs in ~/Library/Pd that are also
present in /extra but have been altered. I was hoping they were taking
precedent loading over those that come with extended. Anyway that
info should be here maybe?

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

unless its already somewhere and im looking in the wrong place.

cheers
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[PD] Change font size for Tk menus

2012-03-19 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
As per subject: is there a way to increase the font size of the Tk menus 
etc (i.e. not the patch fonts as done in the fonts menu).


On a related note where is the old option to add start-up flags which if 
I recall correctly was under Edit  Preferences? Has this been replaced 
by some config file?


Thanks,
Lorenzo.


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Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120317 now available

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message -

 From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
 To: p1k53l workshop pik...@piksel.no
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at; linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:24 PM
 Subject: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120317 now available
 
T his release includes backported font-sizing logic,

Great-- the fonts look right in Debian Wheezy now.

One question, though-- given that the optimal patch-zooming 
functionality is not possible with Tk without a lot of work, would 
it be better to actually resize any iemguis in the patch?  They 
all have methods for setting the size, and it wouldn't change the 
functionality of the objects.

Also, could you map zoom-in to ctrl-+ and ctrl-= and zoom-out 
to ctrl-minus-key?

-Jonathan

 minor improvements to the 
 tooltips engine, and a couple of cosmetic bug-fixes. For a complete list of 
 changes please see the pd-l2ork git changelog (https://github.com/pd-l2ork).
 
 L2Ork supports builds for both 32-bit and 64-bit Linux systems
 and can be downloaded from the usual place:
 
 http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56
 
 As usual, bug reports are in high demand, so get busy and let me know of any 
 potential hiccups.
 
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Re: [PD] ~/Library/Pd takes precedent over /extra?

2012-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

This is the order:

current folder
~/Library/Pd
/Library/Pd
../pd/extra

.hc

On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:09 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:

 i don't know why i don't know this answer off the top of my head but I
 also cant find it anywhere...
 
 Where will Pd look first? ~/Library/Pd OR /extra? And if it finds the
 same lib in ~/Library/Pd AND /extra which will it load? I was just
 thinking because I have some libs in ~/Library/Pd that are also
 present in /extra but have been altered. I was hoping they were taking
 precedent loading over those that come with extended. Anyway that
 info should be here maybe?
 
 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
 
 unless its already somewhere and im looking in the wrong place.
 
 cheers
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[PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Hans,
 Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  If so, could you 
put one there?

I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm building a list of available 
external libraries by searching 

directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: how many external 
libraries currently lack a 

*-meta.pd file?

Thanks,
Jonathan


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Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120317 now available

2012-03-19 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
 Great-- the fonts look right in Debian Wheezy now.
 

Good to hear :-) You should've reported this earlier--I did not know this was 
an issue until I tried Ubuntu 12.04 beta :-)

 One question, though-- given that the optimal patch-zooming
 functionality is not possible with Tk without a lot of work, would
 it be better to actually resize any iemguis in the patch?  They
 all have methods for setting the size, and it wouldn't change the
 functionality of the objects.

Well, I did some thinking about this and here's what I've come up with so far:

Since iemgui objects are customized as gui objects, they should be treated 
separately from the rest of the font matters since they are indeed treated as 
such when it comes to editing/integrating them into a gui. This is particularly 
true for tight GOP objects that would go entirely out of whack unless we 
implement a truly global zoom rather than just a font change. So, this would be 
an argument for not touching them. On the other hand, this is not entirely true 
as they do pull current font size at creation time but do not react to latter 
changes (so this is definitely argument in favor of what you are proposing). 
So, I am a bit torn on them for the time being as changing them would mess 
everything else up (e.g. aforesaid GOP objects), but on the other hand there is 
a precedent for them being adjustable. For this reason, I am simply imagining 
that at some point down the road the font sizing will be replaced by a genuine 
zoom (which I already implemented from a visual perspective except that I did 
not account for the object location changes that then mess everything up inside 
the editor).


 
 Also, could you map zoom-in to ctrl-+ and ctrl-= and zoom-out
 to ctrl-minus-key?

Good idea.

 
 -Jonathan
 
  minor improvements to the
  tooltips engine, and a couple of cosmetic bug-fixes. For a complete list
 of
  changes please see the pd-l2ork git changelog
 (https://github.com/pd-l2ork).
 
  L2Ork supports builds for both 32-bit and 64-bit Linux systems
  and can be downloaded from the usual place:
 
  http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56
 
  As usual, bug reports are in high demand, so get busy and let me know
 of any
  potential hiccups.
 
  -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
  Composition, Music Technology
  Director, DISIS Interactive Sound  Intermedia Studio
  Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
  Assistant Director, CCTAD
  Virginia Tech
  Department of Music
  Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
  (540) 231-6139
  (540) 231-5034 (fax)
  disis.music.vt.edu
  l2ork.music.vt.edu
  ico.bukvic.net
 
 
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Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

2012-03-19 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Claude

Hey much thanks for the patch- lovely stuff- Im going to hack away and
learn a few things---can I ask where did you get the frag shader from?
Thanks again
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 That is really nice Claude.


 -Original Message-
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
 Claude Heiland-Allen
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:02 AM
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

 On 18/03/12 14:13, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway?

 Attached example uses a custom particle system in Lua that also keeps track 
 of various parameters for a GLSL shader.

 Rather undocumented/hacky and might not work on any machine but mine...
 usual NO WARRANTY warning goes here...

 If you want to see how it should look after it fails to run on your machine:
 http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/v/gears/2012-01-14_gear_chain_v1.ogv
 (36MB)


 Claude

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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message -

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
 ls -1 \
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 \
   | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
 This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
 find \
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra \
 -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
 And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
 hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
 1c1,2
  
 ---
 
  Gem
 20a22
  hexloader
 60a63,67
  pdp
  pix_artoolkit
  pix_drum
  pix_fiducialtrack
  pix_mano
 68a76
  tclpd
 
 For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one directly if you 
 want.  
 For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.

Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes when I get a chance.  
For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a *-meta.pd patch 
in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant ones.  (This will 
make 
those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can browse, and show 
the 
appropriate author/license/and version info.)

-Jonathan

 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
  Hi Hans,
       Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  If so, could 
 you put one there?
 
  I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm building a list of 
 available external libraries by searching 
 
  directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: how many 
 external libraries currently lack a 
 
  *-meta.pd file?
 
  Thanks,
  Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?

-Jonathan



- Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 - Original Message -
 
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
  This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
  ls -1 \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
  \
    | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
  This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
  find \
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
 \
  -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
  And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
  hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
  1c1,2
   
  ---
 
   Gem
  20a22
   hexloader
  60a63,67
   pdp
   pix_artoolkit
   pix_drum
   pix_fiducialtrack
   pix_mano
  68a76
   tclpd
 
  For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one directly if you 
 want.  
  For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
 Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes when I get a 
 chance.  
 For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a *-meta.pd patch 
 in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant ones.  (This will 
 make 
 those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can browse, and 
 show 
 the 
 appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
  .hc
 
  On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
   Hi Hans,
        Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  If so, 
 could 
  you put one there?
 
   I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm building a 
 list of 
  available external libraries by searching 
 
   directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: how many 
 
  external libraries currently lack a 
 
   *-meta.pd file?
 
   Thanks,
   Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for getting Gem to accept 
the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  For this release of 
Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the pd-extended/0.43 branch in 
SVN, so you can commit directly there.

.hc

On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
 ls -1 \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 \
   | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
 This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
 find \
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
 \
 -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
 And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
 hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
 1c1,2
  
 ---
 
   Gem
 20a22
   hexloader
 60a63,67
   pdp
   pix_artoolkit
   pix_drum
   pix_fiducialtrack
   pix_mano
 68a76
   tclpd
 
 For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one directly if you 
 want.  
 For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
 Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes when I get a 
 chance.  
 For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a *-meta.pd 
 patch 
 in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant ones.  (This will 
 make 
 those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can browse, and 
 show 
 the 
 appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
   Hi Hans,
   Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  If so, 
 could 
 you put one there?
 
   I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm building a 
 list of 
 available external libraries by searching 
 
   directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: how many 
 
 external libraries currently lack a 
 
   *-meta.pd file?
 
   Thanks,
   Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[PD] [PD-announce] Journées du Code Créatif Nantes, France - 1ère édition

2012-03-19 Thread Max
(Disclaimer: I'm not involved in this at all, but I've noticed the announcement 
on Facebook, so I thought this should go on the Pd-announce list as well!)

PURE (creative) DATA
Journées du Code Créatif - 1ère édition 

Venez (re)découvrir toutes les possibilités (ré)créatives, professionnelles et 
expérimentales de cet outil en présence des ténors de la communauté française 
et internationale. Miller Puckette, le créateur de Pure Data et Max/MSP, nous 
rejoindra de San Diego !

Journées du Code Créatif - 1ère édition 

Création sonore, visuelle, capteurs, interactivité, contrôle d’objets... 


Destiné à tous les curieux, des non initiés aux plus avertis, cet évènement 
propose workshops, performances et live A/V, conférences, démos, installations, 
barcamp... pendant 2 jours et en accès libre (inscription gratuite et 
recommandée). 

Découvrir le programme des 2 jours
Voir aussi l'article Le créateur de MAX/MSP et Pure Data en conférence à 
Stereolux sur le site the creators project

--- 
Pure Data est un logiciel Open Source de programmation graphique pour la 
création musicale et multimédia en temps réel. Maintenu par une communauté 
internationale dont de nombreux chercheurs et leurs universités, il permet le 
développement et la création d’applications informatiques, web et mobile, selon 
des objectifs, des démarches et des formes très diverses. 
---

http://www.stereolux.org/pure-creative-data
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Re: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120304 and new disis_wiimote external now available

2012-03-19 Thread András Murányi
2012/3/6 Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu

  [...]**


 Zooming is cool! There are, however, some objects which don't scale
 appropriately - the red GOP box is one. (See attached screenshot)

 ** **

 That is because GOP objects are of user-selected size, just like iemgui
 objects (which also do not resize for the same reason). Font based zooming
 simply changes font sizes and repositions all objects to be still in the
 same relation to each other. True zooming (ala desiredata), while
 desireable (no pun intended) is at this point IMO too much work for too
 little gain. Entire internals need to be addressed because the object
 mapping and selection logic is split between the toolkit and c which makes
 the entire thing a nightmare. I think this is a good compromise that should
 work in the interim. I am also convinced that instead of having one
 monolithic pd that can do both editor and headless operation, we really
 need 2 instances. One that is based essentially off of libpd and another
 that is a robust editor with none of the convoluted client server model
 between the editor and the engine itself that has made improving on the
 code so cumbersome…

 ** **

 Hope this helps!


(A late) Thanks for the explanation!
So am I getting your vision right: to have a sort of 'server' which runs pd
patches and an editor which only edits patches and submits them to the
server to run? Plus I guess dynamic patching and changes graphical objects'
attributes which will make it all more complicated...?

András
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Another question: what's the point of doc/manuals/READMEs?  Shouldn't those 
docs be 
inside their respective libdirs?

-Jonathan


- Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for getting Gem to 
 accept the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  For this 
 release 
 of Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the pd-extended/0.43 branch 
 in 
 SVN, so you can commit directly there.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
  Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?
 
  -Jonathan
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
  This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
  ls -1 \
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 
  \
    | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
  This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
  find \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
  \
  -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
  And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
  hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
  1c1,2
   
  ---
 
    Gem
  20a22
    hexloader
  60a63,67
    pdp
    pix_artoolkit
    pix_drum
    pix_fiducialtrack
    pix_mano
  68a76
    tclpd
 
  For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one directly if 
 you 
  want.  
  For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
  Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes when I get 
 a 
  chance.  
  For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a *-meta.pd 
 patch 
  in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant ones.  (This 
 will 
  make 
  those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can browse, 
 and show 
  the 
  appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
  -Jonathan
 
 
  .hc
 
  On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
    Hi Hans,
        Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  
 If so, 
  could 
  you put one there?
 
    I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm 
 building a 
  list of 
  available external libraries by searching 
 
    directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: 
 how many 
 
  external libraries currently lack a 
 
    *-meta.pd file?
 
    Thanks,
    Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Another question: why does doc/manuals/Gem exist?  Isn't it already inside 
extra/Gem?


-Jonathan


- Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for getting Gem to 
 accept the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  For this 
 release 
 of Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the pd-extended/0.43 branch 
 in 
 SVN, so you can commit directly there.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
  Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?
 
  -Jonathan
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
  This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
  ls -1 \
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 
  \
    | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
  This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
  find \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
  \
  -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
  And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
  hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
  1c1,2
   
  ---
 
    Gem
  20a22
    hexloader
  60a63,67
    pdp
    pix_artoolkit
    pix_drum
    pix_fiducialtrack
    pix_mano
  68a76
    tclpd
 
  For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one directly if 
 you 
  want.  
  For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
  Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes when I get 
 a 
  chance.  
  For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a *-meta.pd 
 patch 
  in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant ones.  (This 
 will 
  make 
  those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can browse, 
 and show 
  the 
  appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
  -Jonathan
 
 
  .hc
 
  On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
    Hi Hans,
        Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  
 If so, 
  could 
  you put one there?
 
    I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm 
 building a 
  list of 
  available external libraries by searching 
 
    directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: 
 how many 
 
  external libraries currently lack a 
 
    *-meta.pd file?
 
    Thanks,
    Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Patching Circle this Monday

2012-03-19 Thread sonia yuditskaya
Patching Circle is happening right now,
come if you are around!

Sofy Yuditskaya
s~ http://yuditskaya.com




On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Who's bringing the beer?  I'll bring some :-D

 She based it off of the text that I often used, which is a group effort,
 so its all about the mix-n-match!  Please do use it!

 .hc

 On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Richie Cyngler wrote:

 Hey Sofy,

 I'm trying to set up a patching circle in Melbourne Australia (found a
 great venue today). I really like the text you have here can I use some of
 it please?

 Power to patchers!

 thanks

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:24 AM, sonia yuditskaya 
 marysgh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Patching Circle This Monday March 19 at 319 Scholes!

 319 Scholes Street, Brooklyn NY 11206

 6-9 pm

 We will expunge the mysteries of the DMX Shield for Arduino and play
 around with More telephone sounds. Come tqke qdvqntqge of the venue space,
 engage in some live jams, or just come by to hang out. And also there
 is beer!

 The New York City Patching Circle is an free monthly meeting open to all
 for anyone who is interested in media programming. We mostly use Pd and
 Max/MSP, but all are welcome.

 We spend enough time alone staring at our computers; we are proposing to
 work together. So often issues that arise when working can be solved with a
 quick two minute discussion that would take hours to solve alone. We have
 Dorkbot to see people's work, we have Share where anyone can play, we have
 workshops and universities to learn from. This is a meeting where we all
 can come to work.

 This is an informal gathering of patching and patchers (Pd, Max/MSP/
 Jitter, and even , Eyesweb, Labview, etc.). Beginners and Experienced
 welcome. Open to everyone, students, the public, etc. Work on personal
 projects, professional projects, school projects, ask for help, help
 others, or just patch quietly to yourself, in a room full of other people
 patching patches and helping other people patch.

 rawk,
 Sofy Yuditskaya
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I think both of those are no longer in Pd-extended, at least in the build on my 
machine.

.hc

On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 Another question: why does doc/manuals/Gem exist?  Isn't it already inside 
 extra/Gem?
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for getting Gem to 
 accept the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  For this 
 release 
 of Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the pd-extended/0.43 
 branch in 
 SVN, so you can commit directly there.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
 ls -1 \
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 
 \
| cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
 This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
 find \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
 \
 -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
 And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
 hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
 1c1,2
  
 ---
 
Gem
 20a22
hexloader
 60a63,67
pdp
pix_artoolkit
pix_drum
pix_fiducialtrack
pix_mano
 68a76
tclpd
 
 For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one directly if 
 you 
 want.  
 For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
 Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes when I get 
 a 
 chance.  
 For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a *-meta.pd 
 patch 
 in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant ones.  (This 
 will 
 make 
 those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can browse, 
 and show 
 the 
 appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
Hi Hans,
Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in extra/Gem?  
 If so, 
 could 
 you put one there?
 
I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  I'm 
 building a 
 list of 
 available external libraries by searching 
 
directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the question is: 
 how many 
 
 external libraries currently lack a 
 
*-meta.pd file?
 
Thanks,
Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Oh, ok.  They might be leftovers from a previous install.

Btw-- I cannot get any gui plugins to load in either pd-0.43 beta or pd-0.43 
latest nightly build 
under Windows XP.  I put them in the startup folder but I get this in the 
console:

C:/Program FIles/pd/startup/whatever-the-plugin-is.tcl: can't load startup 
library!

 
- Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 I think both of those are no longer in Pd-extended, at least in the build on 
 my 
 machine.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Another question: why does doc/manuals/Gem exist?  Isn't it already 
 inside extra/Gem?
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for getting Gem 
 to 
 accept the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  For 
 this release 
 of Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the pd-extended/0.43 
 branch in 
 SVN, so you can commit directly there.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
 ls -1 \
 
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 
 
 \
     | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
 This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
 find \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
 \
 -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
 And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
 hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
 1c1,2
  
 ---
 
     Gem
 20a22
     hexloader
 60a63,67
     pdp
     pix_artoolkit
     pix_drum
     pix_fiducialtrack
     pix_mano
 68a76
     tclpd
 
 For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one 
 directly if 
 you 
 want.  
 For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
 Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes 
 when I get 
 a 
 chance.  
 For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a 
 *-meta.pd 
 patch 
 in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant 
 ones.  (This 
 will 
 make 
 those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can 
 browse, 
 and show 
 the 
 appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
     Hi Hans,
         Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in 
 extra/Gem?  
 If so, 
 could 
 you put one there?
 
     I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  
 I'm 
 building a 
 list of 
 available external libraries by searching 
 
     directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the 
 question is: 
 how many 
 
 external libraries currently lack a 
 
     *-meta.pd file?
 
     Thanks,
     Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I haven't gotten GUI plugins to load from startup yet... only binaries (i.e. 
.dll, .pd_linux, .pd_darwin, etc.0

.hc

On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

 Oh, ok.  They might be leftovers from a previous install.
 
 Btw-- I cannot get any gui plugins to load in either pd-0.43 beta or pd-0.43 
 latest nightly build 
 under Windows XP.  I put them in the startup folder but I get this in the 
 console:
 
 C:/Program FIles/pd/startup/whatever-the-plugin-is.tcl: can't load startup 
 library!
 
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 I think both of those are no longer in Pd-extended, at least in the build on 
 my 
 machine.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Another question: why does doc/manuals/Gem exist?  Isn't it already 
 inside extra/Gem?
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for getting Gem 
 to 
 accept the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  For 
 this release 
 of Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the pd-extended/0.43 
 branch in 
 SVN, so you can commit directly there.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd file?
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
 ls -1 \
 
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 
 
 \
 | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
 This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
 find \
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
 \
 -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   /tmp/all.txt
 
 And this tells me the different between those two lists:
 
 hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt /tmp/all.txt 
 1c1,2
  
 ---
 
 Gem
 20a22
 hexloader
 60a63,67
 pdp
 pix_artoolkit
 pix_drum
 pix_fiducialtrack
 pix_mano
 68a76
 tclpd
 
 For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit one 
 directly if 
 you 
 want.  
 For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the Gem devs.
 
 Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those changes 
 when I get 
 a 
 chance.  
 For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure there is a 
 *-meta.pd 
 patch 
 in the libdir directory with the same format as the extant 
 ones.  (This 
 will 
 make 
 those libs show up in the list of externals that the user can 
 browse, 
 and show 
 the 
 appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Hi Hans,
 Is Gem supposed to have a $libname-meta.pd in 
 extra/Gem?  
 If so, 
 could 
 you put one there?
 
 I'm almost finished with my search plugin.  
 I'm 
 building a 
 list of 
 available external libraries by searching 
 
 directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So the 
 question is: 
 how many 
 
 external libraries currently lack a 
 
 *-meta.pd file?
 
 Thanks,
 Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
 
 
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 temp pool 
 day.  - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 chapter 
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Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Well, I got it working with vanilla.

Any idea why button labels and my combobox have such tiny text?  I'm doing this 
in the proc 
that creates the dialog box:
toplevel $mytoplevel -class DialogWindow

Other than that I'm not setting fonts-- those are just the default sizes, which 
are tiny.

-Jonathan
 
- Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 I haven't gotten GUI plugins to load from startup yet... only binaries (i.e. 
 .dll, .pd_linux, .pd_darwin, etc.0
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Oh, ok.  They might be leftovers from a previous install.
 
 Btw-- I cannot get any gui plugins to load in either pd-0.43 beta or 
 pd-0.43 latest nightly build 
 under Windows XP.  I put them in the startup folder but I get this in the 
 console:
 
 C:/Program FIles/pd/startup/whatever-the-plugin-is.tcl: can't load 
 startup library!
 
   
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 I think both of those are no longer in Pd-extended, at least in the 
 build on my 
 machine.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Another question: why does doc/manuals/Gem exist?  Isn't it 
 already 
 inside extra/Gem?
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 Yes, in scripts/ in pure-data SVN.  You're best bet for 
 getting Gem 
 to 
 accept the meta files is to submit them to the pd-gem tracker.  
 For 
 this release 
 of Pd-extended 0.43, Gem is already imported into the 
 pd-extended/0.43 
 branch in 
 SVN, so you can commit directly there.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
 Actually-- is there a script to autogenerate the *-meta.pd 
 file?
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] libdirs and search-plugin
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at 
 pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: libdirs and search-plugin
 
 
 This gives me a list of all libs with meta files:
 
 ls -1 \
 
 
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra/*/*-meta.pd
  
 
 
 
 
 \
     | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u  /tmp/meta.txt
 
 This gives me a list of all libs included:
 
 find \
 
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120310.app/Contents/Resources/extra 
 \
 -type d | cut -d / -f 7 | sort -u   
 /tmp/all.txt
 
 And this tells me the different between those two 
 lists:
 
 hans@dhcp-10 libcore $ diff /tmp/meta.txt 
 /tmp/all.txt 
 1c1,2
  
 ---
 
     Gem
 20a22
     hexloader
 60a63,67
     pdp
     pix_artoolkit
     pix_drum
     pix_fiducialtrack
     pix_mano
 68a76
     tclpd
 
 For hexloader, pdp and tclpd I think you can commit 
 one 
 directly if 
 you 
 want.  
 For Gem and pix_* you'll have to go thru the 
 Gem devs.
 
 Ok, for hexloader, pdp and tclpd I'll make those 
 changes 
 when I get 
 a 
 chance.  
 For Gem and pix_*: Dear Gem devs, please make sure 
 there is a 
 *-meta.pd 
 patch 
 in the libdir directory with the same format as the 
 extant 
 ones.  (This 
 will 
 make 
 those libs show up in the list of externals that the 
 user can 
 browse, 
 and show 
 the 
 appropriate author/license/and version info.)
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 
     Hi Hans,
         Is Gem supposed to have a 
 $libname-meta.pd in 
 extra/Gem?  
 If so, 
 could 
 you put one there?
 
     I'm almost finished with my search 
 plugin.  
 I'm 
 building a 
 list of 
 available external libraries by searching 
 
     directories for a $libname-meta.pd file.  So 
 the 
 question is: 
 how many 
 
 external libraries currently lack a 
 
     *-meta.pd file?
 
     Thanks,
     Jonathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                     ¡El pueblo unido jamás será 
 vencido!
 
 
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[PD] Filter design for iPhone

2012-03-19 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi,

I'm trying to design or find a resonant lowpass filter for use with libPd for 
Openframeworks running on an iPhone 4.

1. I've tried the rjlib filter attached (filtertest_list.tar.gz) and it works 
fine in Pd, but instantly breaks when I run it on the iPhone - all other 
playing audio cuts out, and it is impossible to reset. I suspect that the 
buffers fb1 fb2 ff1 ff2 ff3 are hitting NAN values and staying there, but I 
haven't tested this.

2. I've had a go at implementing the filter from 
http://www.musicdsp.org/archive.php?classid=3#25 as a Pd external 
(mvcf~.tar.gz) and it is very efficient CPU-wise. However, higher values of f 
or q cause the internal filter buffers to hit NAN and stay there (tested in Pd 
- I haven't tried this on the iPhone yet).

I would ideally like to find out why the second attempt breaks at high q and/or 
f, as what I want is a 24dB/Octave moog-ish filter. I'm sure those of you with 
higher math skills will intuitively know why, but I'm just learning calculus 
now (my early education was a bit chaotic). I'm also limited by the fact that 
this is for a commercial project (although I'll be happy to share the code :) 
so I can't just take a GPL external and recompiled libpd with it.

 
Ed


Gemnotes-0.1alpha: Live music notation for Pure Data
http://sharktracks.co.uk/

filtertest_list.tar.gz
Description: application/gzip


mvcf~.tar.gz
Description: application/gzip
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