Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to my version of PD. It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this site: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041 2012/7/4 Stefan Thomas > Dear Iain, > I guess that You mean with "all of them" the other pd-related packages, > not jack. Am I right? > I will try it soon. > > > 2012/7/3 Iain Mott > >> Hi Stefan - i would try de-installing all of them, then install only >> puredata - and try that audio test i suggested. See what happens then. >> good luck, iain >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 22:12 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: >> > Dear Iain, >> > I've installed it with synaptic (sudo synaptic). >> > There I've choosen the packages puredata, pd-csound, puredata-gui, >> > puredata-extra and some others. >> > Maybee I should mention that there's version puredata-core 0.43.0-4 on >> > my system installed. >> > >> > 2012/7/3 Iain Mott >> > Hi Stefan - how did you go about installing Pd? Was it via the >> > "Ubuntu >> > Software Centre" or from a website? Describe the steps you >> > took. Seems >> > like there is something wrong with your installation. >> > iain >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:05 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: >> > > Dear Ian, >> > > thanks for Your help! >> > > I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got: >> > > was... 1 >> > > priority 6 scheduling enabled. >> > > priority 8 scheduling enabled. >> > > >> > open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such >> > > file or directory >> > > testtone.pd: No such file or directory >> > > Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory >> > called >> > > 7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file >> > testtone.pd! >> > > >> > > 2012/7/3 Iain Mott >> > > Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that >> > qjackctl >> > > is >> > > actually started and running properly (you can click >> > on the >> > > "Messages" >> > > button to see if something is wrong), then when you >> > launch Pd >> > > from a >> > > terminal, make sure you have included the "-jack" >> > flag in the >> > > command >> > > line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you >> > copy the >> > > command >> > > line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also >> > any print >> > > out from >> > > the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong. >> > > >> > > What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the >> > "Test >> > > audio and >> > > MIDI" patch? In my version of Pd this can be found >> > under the >> > > "Media" >> > > menu. >> > > >> > > Cheers, Iain >> > > >> > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas >> > wrote: >> > > > Dear community, >> > > > I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu >> > 12.04 >> > > machine (64 >> > > > bit) from the repositorys. >> > > > Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it. >> > > > First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the >> > menue >> > > "Media" I choose >> > > > "Jack". >> > > > In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata >> > are >> > > connected. >> > > > When I know click "Media", "test audio and midi" >> > > unfortunately nothing >> > > > happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is >> > choosen or not. >> > > > I can also open some patches, but I dont know how >> > to get >> > > sound of it. >> > > > Am I missing something very simple? >> > > > Sorry, but I can't find my mistake. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > ___ >> > > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > __
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear Iain, I guess that You mean with "all of them" the other pd-related packages, not jack. Am I right? I will try it soon. 2012/7/3 Iain Mott > Hi Stefan - i would try de-installing all of them, then install only > puredata - and try that audio test i suggested. See what happens then. > good luck, iain > > > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 22:12 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: > > Dear Iain, > > I've installed it with synaptic (sudo synaptic). > > There I've choosen the packages puredata, pd-csound, puredata-gui, > > puredata-extra and some others. > > Maybee I should mention that there's version puredata-core 0.43.0-4 on > > my system installed. > > > > 2012/7/3 Iain Mott > > Hi Stefan - how did you go about installing Pd? Was it via the > > "Ubuntu > > Software Centre" or from a website? Describe the steps you > > took. Seems > > like there is something wrong with your installation. > > iain > > > > > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:05 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: > > > Dear Ian, > > > thanks for Your help! > > > I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got: > > > was... 1 > > > priority 6 scheduling enabled. > > > priority 8 scheduling enabled. > > > > > open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such > > > file or directory > > > testtone.pd: No such file or directory > > > Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory > > called > > > 7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file > > testtone.pd! > > > > > > 2012/7/3 Iain Mott > > > Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that > > qjackctl > > > is > > > actually started and running properly (you can click > > on the > > > "Messages" > > > button to see if something is wrong), then when you > > launch Pd > > > from a > > > terminal, make sure you have included the "-jack" > > flag in the > > > command > > > line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you > > copy the > > > command > > > line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also > > any print > > > out from > > > the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong. > > > > > > What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the > > "Test > > > audio and > > > MIDI" patch? In my version of Pd this can be found > > under the > > > "Media" > > > menu. > > > > > > Cheers, Iain > > > > > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas > > wrote: > > > > Dear community, > > > > I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu > > 12.04 > > > machine (64 > > > > bit) from the repositorys. > > > > Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it. > > > > First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the > > menue > > > "Media" I choose > > > > "Jack". > > > > In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata > > are > > > connected. > > > > When I know click "Media", "test audio and midi" > > > unfortunately nothing > > > > happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is > > choosen or not. > > > > I can also open some patches, but I dont know how > > to get > > > sound of it. > > > > Am I missing something very simple? > > > > Sorry, but I can't find my mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released
On 07/04/2012 05:11 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: The thing I'm actually looking forward to doing is to extend textfiles and message boxes and data structures to be able to spit lists of atoms around much more flexibly than now. Also pd vanilla needs tilde objects to do interpolating signal snapshots, phase-syncable oscillators, and other stuff on that level, also likely to be a lot of fun. Sounds awesome, I am excited! Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released
Hi all, Pd version 0.43-3 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data Main change from 0.43-2 is that MIDI input is improved on Mac and Windows. Also, I added a stub to future-proof Pd against a possible extension of the file format so that in the future there could be a way to set widths of boxes and stuff like that (and 0.43-3 would read those files and only complain once instead of complaining for pages.) I'm ready to start hacking on 0.44. The most urgent thing seems to be for me to go back and work on the audio system (and perhaps tweak MIDI a bit more too). The thing I'm actually looking forward to doing is to extend textfiles and message boxes and data structures to be able to spit lists of atoms around much more flexibly than now. Also pd vanilla needs tilde objects to do interpolating signal snapshots, phase-syncable oscillators, and other stuff on that level, also likely to be a lot of fun. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Tipps and patches for Sound Installation
Dear List, on thursday, 12th july, we want to present a sound installation in Hamburg. I am looking for tipps to work with Pure Data. The installation will look like this: There will be a flexible wooden surface, ca. 1 square meter. Under that surface there will be some plastic bottles. Making a step on the surface the bottles will crack. The signals will be received by two microphones. We want to use Pure Data for making the signals sound like breaking ice. It should simulate the situation going on a frozen lake and suddenly you can hear a big break. We have two loudspeakers and a big subwoofer. Maybe it would be nice to use a pitch shifter and a time stretch to get this effect. Does anybody have some patches like this? My knowledge about Pure Data is not as big, so it would be really nice to get some more ideas from you. Maybe you have some more ideas, which effects and filters we could use? Would be nice to hear from you. Thank you! All the best, Birthe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Hi Stefan - how did you go about installing Pd? Was it via the "Ubuntu Software Centre" or from a website? Describe the steps you took. Seems like there is something wrong with your installation. iain On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:05 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: > Dear Ian, > thanks for Your help! > I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got: > was... 1 > priority 6 scheduling enabled. > priority 8 scheduling enabled. > open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such > file or directory > testtone.pd: No such file or directory > Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory called > 7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file testtone.pd! > > 2012/7/3 Iain Mott > Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that qjackctl > is > actually started and running properly (you can click on the > "Messages" > button to see if something is wrong), then when you launch Pd > from a > terminal, make sure you have included the "-jack" flag in the > command > line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you copy the > command > line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also any print > out from > the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong. > > What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the "Test > audio and > MIDI" patch? In my version of Pd this can be found under the > "Media" > menu. > > Cheers, Iain > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: > > Dear community, > > I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 > machine (64 > > bit) from the repositorys. > > Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it. > > First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue > "Media" I choose > > "Jack". > > In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are > connected. > > When I know click "Media", "test audio and midi" > unfortunately nothing > > happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not. > > I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get > sound of it. > > Am I missing something very simple? > > Sorry, but I can't find my mistake. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear Ian, thanks for Your help! I've tried pd -jack, as You've proposed, and I've got: > was... 1 > priority 6 scheduling enabled. > priority 8 scheduling enabled. > open: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff/tools/testtone.pd: No such file or > directory > testtone.pd: No such file or directory > Unfortunately, in /usr/lib/puredata/doc there's no directory called 7.stuff, there's only 5.reference and there's is no file testtone.pd! 2012/7/3 Iain Mott > Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that qjackctl is > actually started and running properly (you can click on the "Messages" > button to see if something is wrong), then when you launch Pd from a > terminal, make sure you have included the "-jack" flag in the command > line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you copy the command > line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also any print out from > the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong. > > What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the "Test audio and > MIDI" patch? In my version of Pd this can be found under the "Media" > menu. > > Cheers, Iain > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: > > Dear community, > > I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64 > > bit) from the repositorys. > > Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it. > > First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue "Media" I choose > > "Jack". > > In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected. > > When I know click "Media", "test audio and midi" unfortunately nothing > > happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not. > > I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it. > > Am I missing something very simple? > > Sorry, but I can't find my mistake. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film + incrementing frame number = blurring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-03 18:36, Iain Mott wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 09:15 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> Gem is 20fps you will play the file at a reduced speed. the >> simplest solution is to raise Gem's framerate. >> >> >> as others have pointed out, the "blurring" will most likely come >> from inter-frame compression where you are trying to access >> non-keyframes and the used backend (most likely gmerlin, >> according to your settings) does a bad job at reconstructing the >> image. > > > Thanks IOhannes, I didn't know about the 20fps default. If gmerlin > does a poor job, how can enlist the services of a better backend? > Is this a matter of using a different codec or do I have to > recompile with certain config options? i'm not saying that gmerlin _is_ doing a bad job. afaik, it does the best job _in general_ (supports most formats, allows to access random-access, ...) whether it does a bad job in the specific case i cannot really tell, but it seems so. anyhow, you can select a different backend using yet another parameter to the "open" message: [open foo.mov RGBA quicktime4linux( should open "foo.mov" in the RGBA-space using "quicktime4linux" (rather than gmerlin). afair, the backend is merely a suggestion, and if the desired backend is not able to open the given file, it will fallback to the default behaviour. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/zKDEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRkvwCeK7HHFehUnm7C0oU9zc30EQX5 OAYAmwWSnDgoLKGE5j9G7M11WqBZZoOb =SyKW -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film + incrementing frame number = blurring
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 09:15 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Gem is 20fps you will play the file at a reduced speed. > the simplest solution is to raise Gem's framerate. > > > as others have pointed out, the "blurring" will most likely come from > inter-frame compression where you are trying to access non-keyframes > and the used backend (most likely gmerlin, according to your settings) > does a bad job at reconstructing the image. Thanks IOhannes, I didn't know about the 20fps default. If gmerlin does a poor job, how can enlist the services of a better backend? Is this a matter of using a different codec or do I have to recompile with certain config options? Cheers, Iain ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Hi there - If you wish to use jack, first check that qjackctl is actually started and running properly (you can click on the "Messages" button to see if something is wrong), then when you launch Pd from a terminal, make sure you have included the "-jack" flag in the command line. Yes, you'll need to check the DSP box. Can you copy the command line output of Pd and post it to the list (and also any print out from the main Pd window)? It might show what is wrong. What audio patch are you testing? Have you tried the "Test audio and MIDI" patch? In my version of Pd this can be found under the "Media" menu. Cheers, Iain On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:51 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: > Dear community, > I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64 > bit) from the repositorys. > Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it. > First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue "Media" I choose > "Jack". > In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected. > When I know click "Media", "test audio and midi" unfortunately nothing > happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not. > I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it. > Am I missing something very simple? > Sorry, but I can't find my mistake. > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear community, I've installed pd, version 0.43.0-4 on my ubuntu 12.04 machine (64 bit) from the repositorys. Unfortunately, I can't get sound out of it. First I'started qjackctl, and then PD. From the menue "Media" I choose "Jack". In qjackctl I can see, that system and puredata are connected. When I know click "Media", "test audio and midi" unfortunately nothing happens, it doesn't matter if the box DSP is choosen or not. I can also open some patches, but I dont know how to get sound of it. Am I missing something very simple? Sorry, but I can't find my mistake. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ipoke~ ?
Julian, it is a good idea to first ask P.A. to share the code among a
small group and discuss licence, naming and maintainance matters. I am
still not back home (this mail is typed from a tourist office), but in
one week I will be ready to join in fully.
cheers, Katja
On 6/28/12, Julian Brooks wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> So, after re-reading the thread I guess we're at the point where some
> [iPoke~] source would be helpful.
>
> It would seem that there is still two possible approaches for the
> [tabwrite4~] option (A & B), plus some still to be resolved issues such as
> mixing/overwriting which presumably could be user-settings/options
> dependent on the proposed usage e.g. modelling a moving source vs looping
> software which are two very different practical issues. Right? I would
> certainly be in favour, if it makes communal sense, to have one object
> which could do both and, as of yet, other unforeseen things.
>
> Perhaps too a reasonably straight port of [iPoke]? would be a good first
> project to get this moving towards the proposed [tabwrite4~] or is part of
> the problem that currently within Pd [iPoke~] is just not doable?
>
> BTW, my 2-penneth, etc etc - naming wise, if we have hit upon something
> which appears to be a fundamental lack from within current Pd I have to
> admit to having a slight reservation on encroaching upon Miller's naming
> strategy, i.e. would we be bagging something which he would prefer to keep
> open for himself? It is a damn good name.
>
> Below is a first draft to P.A., please amend/contribute/re-write/leave as
> you see fit:
>
>
> Dear P.A.,
>
> Thank you for the kind offer to make the source code of your Max/MSP
> external [iPoke~] available for a port to Pd.
>
> The source code will be shared amongst a small group of interested and able
> Pd coders who have been contributing to a discussion on the Pd-list ('[PD]
> ipoke~?') working towards a proposed new object (current working title
> [tabwrite4~]). Porting [iPoke~] and being able to understand how you have
> managed to resolve some of the issues we currently face (with all due
> credit), would be fundamental towards attempting to solve this very
> interesting conundrum.
>
> Currently we have not discussed some of the various important practical
> issues such as licensing and who and where this new object would be
> maintained.
>
> Our first aim would be to create a robust and cross-platform [iPoke~] which
> would submit to all of our high standards.
>
> It has been suggested that in keeping with a strategy of clear and open
> communication we keep this discussion 'on-list' so please feel free to
> respond in kind, or not.
>
> Very best wishes and look forward to hearing from you soon.
>
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Re: [PD] pix_film + incrementing frame number = blurring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-02 23:19, Iain Mott wrote: > Forgot to mention i'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and the video files are 30 > fps with the codec H.264 / AVC > > Also, while sending an "auto 1" message to pix_film gives smooth > playback, the file plays perhaps 30% slow. This doesn't seem to be > a CPU issue as the cpu is running between 20 and 30% while playing > the file. in "auto 1" mode, Gem will increment to the "next" frame in each render tick. "next" means that #125 will follow #124 regardless of the actual fps of the video. since your video is encoded with 30fps and the default tick-time in Gem is 20fps you will play the file at a reduced speed. the simplest solution is to raise Gem's framerate. as others have pointed out, the "blurring" will most likely come from inter-frame compression where you are trying to access non-keyframes and the used backend (most likely gmerlin, according to your settings) does a bad job at reconstructing the image. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/ynBEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQIegCg9jLD00Eyk8ei5Y3kHrA9Q7nV yQQAn1+0rQvnoEW9tr2CA80THKg3/1Xl =kFY9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
