Re: [PD] FTM for PD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-05 01:19, João Pais wrote: hi, any news on this? i'm unaware of anybody waiting for more user input. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/1QlEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTRHwCfSZdF1lMK+EJZMIwzvf0whnBI JkUAoI9O5//0Zlg4qT2nzWA7EvmcH/wV =0smt -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released
nice on the 04.4, a way to modulate the phase sync sounds good. It sounds pretty good at block size 64 anyways but I guess it would be better faster. I'll give you my ltoa if you will make something so that I can change 1/4 loaded from a textfile into 0.25. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sending band/float/symbol via network to pd-vanilla
YOu can use netreceive and then make a patch to distribute the messages. Easiest way, although inefficient, is each time a mesage arrives, empty out a message box, put in a semicolon (addsemi message) and then add the incoming message (using [list prepend add] adn [list trim]. It took my a while to figure this out but now it works. Thanks for the hint. Now I use a netreceive with an empty message box. To send a bang to test123 I transmit the following via tcp from the game. set; // clears the box addsemi; // just adds a ; add test123 bang; // adds my message: test123 bang; bang; // trigger rerouting and transmits bang to test123 Just in case somebody encounters the same problem. More sporting way is to use a [send] with no arguments, and then with list and trigger magic get the first symbol to the right inlet and the rest to the left. Currently the above solution works good enough for us. So I did not try this one. we try to integrate pd into a mobile game and plan to send data via int libpd_bang(const char *destination) int libpd_float(const char *destination, float value) int libpd_symbol(const char *destination, const char *symbol) For debugging purpose we want to be able to run a debug version of the game and a pd instance on a pc to see whats going on inside pd. Is it possible to trigger these methods using pd-vanilla via network? Like a more global netreceive. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear Kaj, thanks for Your help. I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys. But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound. I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables. But I can't hear any sound! I don't have the option compute audio. When I click DSP, nothing happens. Shall I install a newer or older version from source? 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to my version of PD. It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this site: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release. I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if everything works. Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is preferred for that. Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio). To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things. First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do this in a terminal: sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they should be by default): @audio - rtprio 95 @audio - memlockunlimited If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf ..and add the two lines above. The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER Then, reboot. Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal data latency. Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and around 5-10 ms in pd jack settings. | kaj.ailo...@mousike.me -| ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ADC~ with microphone
Hello ! So I have a little problem, when I use my laptop buikt in mic adc works fine plugged to a dac~ with earphones I can hear myself. But when I plug a cable (mini jack male-male) from a mp3 player to my audio in port on my laptop I only hear noise cable and audio source are fine, and the laptop too :) thing is, when I check in windows sounds recording preference preference I see there is volume, when i pause the mp3, the volume stops. So somewhere the computer receive it. But even when I try withthe windows basic recorder to record whats going on, I have blank. and on PD I have noise :( any idea ? cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sending band/float/symbol via network to pd-vanilla
Are you sending a lot of messages into Pd? I find it's simpler to just make a dummy abstraction in the patch that mimics the functionality and messaging system of the app and make sure it's not available when building on the phone. Obviously depends on your setup, but in this way I can work in parallel with the app side development. Cheers, Joe On 5 July 2012 14:41, Sebastian Dorda hag...@schattenkind.net wrote: YOu can use netreceive and then make a patch to distribute the messages. Easiest way, although inefficient, is each time a mesage arrives, empty out a message box, put in a semicolon (addsemi message) and then add the incoming message (using [list prepend add] adn [list trim]. It took my a while to figure this out but now it works. Thanks for the hint. Now I use a netreceive with an empty message box. To send a bang to test123 I transmit the following via tcp from the game. set; // clears the box addsemi; // just adds a ; add test123 bang; // adds my message: test123 bang; bang; // trigger rerouting and transmits bang to test123 Just in case somebody encounters the same problem. More sporting way is to use a [send] with no arguments, and then with list and trigger magic get the first symbol to the right inlet and the rest to the left. Currently the above solution works good enough for us. So I did not try this one. we try to integrate pd into a mobile game and plan to send data via int libpd_bang(const char *destination) int libpd_float(const char *destination, float value) int libpd_symbol(const char *destination, const char *symbol) For debugging purpose we want to be able to run a debug version of the game and a pd instance on a pc to see whats going on inside pd. Is it possible to trigger these methods using pd-vanilla via network? Like a more global netreceive. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Follow me on Twitter @diplojocus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear Ivica, I did as You suggested. Make install installed a file pd in /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork There I've executed ./pd but I've got sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/bin/pd-gui: not found What has been my mistake? 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu You don't need any. Just install the burrito supreme binary version by running sudo make install inside the folder (or sudo make uninstall to remove). You will need to install tkpng lib though by doing sudo apt-get install tkpng. Cheers! On Jul 5, 2012 12:04 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: I coulnd't find debian packages on their site! 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu FWIW You can try pd-l2ork. Those were built on Ubuntu. Best wishes, Ico On Jul 5, 2012 11:44 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Kaj, thanks for Your help. I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys. But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound. I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables. But I can't hear any sound! I don't have the option compute audio. When I click DSP, nothing happens. Shall I install a newer or older version from source? 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to my version of PD. It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this site: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release. I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if everything works. Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is preferred for that. Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio). To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things. First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do this in a terminal: sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they should be by default): @audio - rtprio 95 @audio - memlockunlimited If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf ..and add the two lines above. The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER Then, reboot. Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal data latency. Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and around 5-10 ms in pd jack settings. | kaj.ailo...@mousike.me -| ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 19:19 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 17:42 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Kaj, thanks for Your help. I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys. But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound. I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables. But I can't hear any sound! I don't have the option compute audio. When I click DSP, nothing happens. Shall I install a newer or older version from source? Sorry, this was supposed to go to the list.. As for alsa, I am a bit reluctant to say too much, cause I don't know how that works with pulseaudio. But, the example should work fine, given you have started jack and configured pd to use jack, as well as made sure they are connected. If you have multiple audio devices (hdmi is an audio device also), you need to make sure the right device is selected in qjackctl - Setup - Interface. Other settings are fine as they are. After starting pd, choose from the menu: Media - jack. Make sure input and output are toggled on, and that you have set the number of channels (2 is fine). Click Ok. Then, go to qjackctl - Connect. If there are no wires between pd and system, then select pd at one side, and system at one side, and hit connect. This will enable audio out. system-pd will enable audio in. You can expand the inputs and outputs with the little arrows next to the devices to see how many inputs outputs each contains. That should be it. -- | kaj.ailo...@mousike.me -| ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Start it from any folder by typing pd-l2ork, not pd. On Jul 5, 2012 4:08 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ivica, I did as You suggested. Make install installed a file pd in /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork There I've executed ./pd but I've got sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/bin/pd-gui: not found What has been my mistake? 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu You don't need any. Just install the burrito supreme binary version by running sudo make install inside the folder (or sudo make uninstall to remove). You will need to install tkpng lib though by doing sudo apt-get install tkpng. Cheers! On Jul 5, 2012 12:04 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: I coulnd't find debian packages on their site! 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu FWIW You can try pd-l2ork. Those were built on Ubuntu. Best wishes, Ico On Jul 5, 2012 11:44 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Kaj, thanks for Your help. I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys. But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound. I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables. But I can't hear any sound! I don't have the option compute audio. When I click DSP, nothing happens. Shall I install a newer or older version from source? 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to my version of PD. It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this site: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release. I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if everything works. Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is preferred for that. Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio). To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things. First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do this in a terminal: sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they should be by default): @audio - rtprio 95 @audio - memlockunlimited If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf ..and add the two lines above. The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER Then, reboot. Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal data latency. Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and around 5-10 ms in pd jack settings. | kaj.ailo...@mousike.me -| ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Dear Ivica, thanks, I did as You suggested and it look at it could work. But I will try it in deep tomorrow, it's a bit late now! 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu Start it from any folder by typing pd-l2ork, not pd. On Jul 5, 2012 4:08 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ivica, I did as You suggested. Make install installed a file pd in /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork There I've executed ./pd but I've got sh: 1: /usr/local/lib/bin/pd-gui: not found What has been my mistake? 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu You don't need any. Just install the burrito supreme binary version by running sudo make install inside the folder (or sudo make uninstall to remove). You will need to install tkpng lib though by doing sudo apt-get install tkpng. Cheers! On Jul 5, 2012 12:04 PM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: I coulnd't find debian packages on their site! 2012/7/5 Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu FWIW You can try pd-l2ork. Those were built on Ubuntu. Best wishes, Ico On Jul 5, 2012 11:44 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Kaj, thanks for Your help. I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys. But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound. I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables. But I can't hear any sound! I don't have the option compute audio. When I click DSP, nothing happens. Shall I install a newer or older version from source? 2012/7/4 Kaj Ailomaa kaj.ailo...@mousike.me On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to my version of PD. It seems to be the same problem like the one, I have read on this site: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645041 Yep. It seems to be a bug with that release. I've added an example as an attachment. Should be enough to check if everything works. Alsa works for me, but it doesn't work well at lower latencies. Jack is preferred for that. Only, to get lower latencies with jack, you'll need to install linux-lowlatency (low latency capable linux kernel) and set up realtime privilege (all this is done if you installed Ubuntu Studio). To set up realtime privilege, you'll need to do a few things. First, install linux-lowlatency: sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency Second, you need to answer yes when asked about this when installing jack. If unsure, see that the file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled. To rename it, do this in a terminal: sudo mv /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf Inside that file, you need to have these two lines uncommented (they should be by default): @audio - rtprio 95 @audio - memlockunlimited If the file doesn't exist, just create it: sudo nano /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf ..and add the two lines above. The third thing to do is to add yourself to audio group: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER Then, reboot. Latency is adjusted separately for both jack and pd. I believe jack handles audio latency when used with pd, while pd handles its' internal data latency. Good latency for me is 64 frames/period in qjackctl settings, and around 5-10 ms in pd jack settings. | kaj.ailo...@mousike.me -| ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound
Hi Stefan, On 05.07.2012 17:42, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Kaj, thanks for Your help. I've installed the lowlatency kernel and I've also reinstalled qjackctl and pd, from the ubuntu repositorys. But I still do have the problem, that I don't hear any sound. I opened Your patch signal-example and I can see the cables. But I can't hear any sound! I don't have the option compute audio. When I click DSP, nothing happens. Shall I install a newer or older version from source? does any other Jack enabled application produce any sound? You could try something like amsynth, qsynth or hydrogen just to test, if it is problem with Pd or your Jack configuration. Best regards, Thomas -- Theoretically, [the amount of money in circulation] is watched carefully by clever, serious economists. In practice, all the world's money is one big swirling, whirling pool. (Cory Doctorow - For The Win) http://www.residuum.org/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] SMAC 2013 SMC 2013: First Announcement and Call for Contributions
(apologies for multiple postings) Dear all, we are pleased to announce the Stockholm Music Acoustics Conference 2013 (SMAC), to be presented jointly with the Sound and Music Computing Conference 2013 (SMC), on 30 July - 3 August, 2013 in Stockholm, Sweden. Please visit http://www.speech.kth.se/smac-smc-2013/ for more details! Please notice that enquiries will be answered after 15 August, 2012. Have a good summer! Sten Ternström, chair SMAC 2013 Roberto Bresin, chair SMC 2013 __ Roberto Bresin, PhD, Associate Professor KTH Royal Institute of Technology CSC School of Computer Science and Communication TMH Dept of Speech, Music and Hearing Lindstedtsv. 24 SE - 114 28 Stockholm Sweden url : www.speech.kth.se/~roberto skype : robertobresin tel : +46-8-790 78 76 mob : +46-70-795 78 76 fax : +46-8-790 78 54 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
