[PD] compiling external in pd

2013-08-18 Thread Olivier Baudry
Dear Pd team

It will be better to have some, visual c++ project with example of
compilation and xcode project included in Pd-sdk. I think for beginner
it's difficult to choose GCC or LLVM on xcode 4.63 on mac os Lion for
example. Maybe one day it will be possible to write .c external directly
in pd and compile inside...

I' m happy to read a multirate is in a future of Pd...

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Jonghyun Kim
Thanks so much!


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Hi all,

 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://
 pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


 Some new features:

 binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)

 pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock
 although
 not yet perfect

 multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
 replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
 sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.

 texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.

 tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In
 particular
 you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
 changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in
 sync.

 Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.

 Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:

 The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not

 Fixed hangups exiting when using jack

 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for
 how
 long.)

 cheers
 Miller

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[PD] csoundapi~ external question

2013-08-18 Thread peiman khosravi
Dear all,

When trying to load the csoundapi~ object I get this error:

Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/csoundapi~.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/
csoundapi~.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found.  Did find:
/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/PD/
csoundapi~.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture
 csoundapi~
... couldn't create

I have been told that the reason for this is because my build of PD is
i386, and csoundapi~ is x86_64.

I am on OS X 10.7.5 and have tried this with both vanilla and extended PD.
Is there a x86_64 build available that I could try?

Many Thanks
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Funs Seelen
Hi Miller,

Thanks for the new features!

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Hi all,

 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://
 pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test


It seems to me that there is no tag or branch named 0.45-.. available.

user@desktop:~/git/pure-data$ git checkout 0.4
0.41-0test06   0.43   0.43-2 0.43-4 0.44-0test2
0.42   0.43-1 0.43-2test10.43-test1 0.44-1
0.42-4 0.43-1test30.43-3 0.44-0 0.44-3
0.42-5 0.43-1test40.43-3test10.44-0test1

Kind regards,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Nicolas Montgermont

hello,

Thanks or this new version!
I have a problem here. Pd crashes when opening the help patch of the new 
delay object

osx 10.6.8
Here is the gdb log:
(gdb) run
Starting program: 
/Users/nix/pd_installer/Pd-0.45-0test1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
Reading symbols for shared libraries + done
Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
Reading symbols for shared libraries + done
Reading symbols for shared libraries . done
Pt_Start() called

Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
Reason: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at address: 0x
0x0008165b in parsetimeunits ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0x0008165b in parsetimeunits ()
#1  0x00082e38 in delay_new ()
#2  0x0004696c in pd_typedmess ()
#3  0x0004afa2 in binbuf_eval ()
#4  0xa6ed in canvas_objtext ()
#5  0xaa52 in canvas_obj ()
#6  0x0004678e in pd_typedmess ()
#7  0x0004afa2 in binbuf_eval ()
#8  0x0004efd9 in binbuf_evalfile ()
#9  0x0004f0a6 in glob_evalfile ()
#10 0x0005a0c6 in open_via_helppath ()
#11 0x0002621b in canvas_done_popup ()
#12 0x0004696c in pd_typedmess ()
#13 0x00046632 in pd_typedmess ()
#14 0x0004afa2 in binbuf_eval ()
#15 0x000551f8 in socketreceiver_read ()
#16 0x00053df0 in sys_domicrosleep ()
#17 0x00053e55 in sys_microsleep ()
#18 0x00051580 in m_mainloop ()
#19 0x00053be2 in sys_main ()
#20 0x1fd6 in _start ()
#21 0x1efd in start ()
(gdb)

best,
n
Le 18/08/13 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :

Hi all,

Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


Some new features:

binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)

pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock although
not yet perfect

multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.

texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.

tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In particular
you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.

Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.

Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:

The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not

Fixed hangups exiting when using jack

Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
long.)

cheers
Miller

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Jack
Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Hi all,

 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


 Some new features:

 binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)

 pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock although
 not yet perfect

 multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
 replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
 sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.

 texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.

 tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In particular
 you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
 changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.

 Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.  

 Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:

 The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not

 Fixed hangups exiting when using jack

 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)

 cheers
 Miller

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Hello Miller,

I get errors after :
$ sudo make install
...
make install-data-hook
make[5]: Entering directory
`/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
cd /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/expr~  ( \
ln -s expr~.pd_linux expr.pd_linux; \
ln -s expr~.pd_linux fexpr~.pd_linux; \
cd ..; \
ln -s expr~/expr.pd_linux expr.pd_linux; \
ln -s expr~/expr~.pd_linux expr~.pd_linux; \
ln -s expr~/fexpr~.pd_linux fexpr~.pd_linux; \
ln -s expr~/expr-help.pd expr-help.pd; \
ln -s expr~/expr-help.pd expr~-help.pd; \
ln -s expr~/expr-help.pd fexpr~-help.pd; \
)
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr.pd_linux’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘fexpr~.pd_linux’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr.pd_linux’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr~.pd_linux’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘fexpr~.pd_linux’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr-help.pd’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr~-help.pd’: File exists
ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘fexpr~-help.pd’: File exists
make[5]: *** [install-data-hook] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory
`/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
make[4]: *** [install-data-am] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1'
make: *** [install] Error 2

My system :
Ubuntu 13.04
Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-27-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 9
00:17:05 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
++

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Jack
Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Hi all,

 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


 Some new features:

 binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)

 pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock although
 not yet perfect

 multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
 replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
 sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.

 texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.

 tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In particular
 you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
 changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.

 Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.  

 Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:

 The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not

 Fixed hangups exiting when using jack

 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)

 cheers
 Miller

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Re-hello Miller,

In your help patch about [delay], when you write about 'tempo' :
In this example the unit is set to 1/2 millisecond so that '1000' gives
a delay of 2000 msec (2 seconds).
This should give a 500 ms instead 2000 ms, or i am wrong ?
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread katja
Hi Miller,

That's a lot of new, very useful features! It is really cool to have a
decent text editor within Pd. I like how methods on named [text] and
[array] objects can be called from any place (depending on scope),
since you can get output where you want it instead of everything
coming from one outlet. Therefore [text] is more powerful than
[cyclone/coll] indeed. Wasn't Jonathan Wilkes proposing a similar
approach for glists in general some time ago?

I compiled Pd 0.45-0test1 on Xubuntu 10.4. I'm sorry to report the
following: if the help patch for [list] is opened, Pd exits with
'Segmentation fault (core dumped)'.

Katja


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 Hi all,

 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


 Some new features:

 binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)

 pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock although
 not yet perfect

 multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
 replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
 sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.

 texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.

 tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In particular
 you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
 changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.

 Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.

 Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:

 The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not

 Fixed hangups exiting when using jack

 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)

 cheers
 Miller

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Colet Patrice

Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :

Hi all,

Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
long.)



I've got ASIO working only from cmd:

pd -asio

Great! Thanks a lot!

When I start pd (without -asio) and choose ASIO in GUI menu it's still 
stucking,


cheers,

PatCo

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread J Oliver
When testing the text and data structures example, when clicking on the 0 
message, Pd freezes in OSX 10.7.5.

With -sterr it doesn't freeze but it prints:

type: 0
print: list a b c d 
\\*
 1 2 3 
*

best,

J

On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Colet Patrice wrote:

 Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)
 
 
 I've got ASIO working only from cmd:
 
 pd -asio
 
 Great! Thanks a lot!
 
 When I start pd (without -asio) and choose ASIO in GUI menu it's still 
 stucking,
 
 cheers,
 
 PatCo
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread J Oliver
Hi Miller,

The array and text stuff is great!

Another small bug:

Changing the size of an array with a number box sending to [array size 
array-name], changes the size of the array, but doesn't change/refresh the x 
axis' label, but rather moves them around that same axis.

best,

J

On Aug 18, 2013, at 10:35 AM, J Oliver wrote:

 When testing the text and data structures example, when clicking on the 0 
 message, Pd freezes in OSX 10.7.5.
 
 With -sterr it doesn't freeze but it prints:
 
 type: 0
 print: list a b c d 
 \\*
  1 2 3 
 *
 
 best,
 
 J
 
 On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Colet Patrice wrote:
 
 Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
  git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
  git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)
 
 
 I've got ASIO working only from cmd:
 
 pd -asio
 
 Great! Thanks a lot!
 
 When I start pd (without -asio) and choose ASIO in GUI menu it's still 
 stucking,
 
 cheers,
 
 PatCo
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Thanks - it looks like my attempts to 'git push' somehow stopped working
June 1.  I don't know where my new 'push' attempts are going but had better
try to g3figure this one out.  Meanwhile just grab from webpage.

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:49:06AM +0200, Funs Seelen wrote:
 Hi Miller,
 
 Thanks for the new features!
 
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
git clone git://
  pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test
 
 
 It seems to me that there is no tag or branch named 0.45-.. available.
 
 user@desktop:~/git/pure-data$ git checkout 0.4
 0.41-0test06   0.43   0.43-2 0.43-4 0.44-0test2
 0.42   0.43-1 0.43-2test10.43-test1 0.44-1
 0.42-4 0.43-1test30.43-3 0.44-0 0.44-3
 0.42-5 0.43-1test40.43-3test10.44-0test1
 
 Kind regards,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... attempted fix in place.  I don't understand the automake system so this
might take an iteration or 2.

thanks
M

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:58:33AM +0200, Jack wrote:
 Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
  Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
  Some new features:
 
  binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)
 
  pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock 
  although
  not yet perfect
 
  multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
  replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
  sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.
 
  texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.
 
  tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In 
  particular
  you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
  changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.
 
  Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.  
 
  Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:
 
  The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not
 
  Fixed hangups exiting when using jack
 
  Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
  long.)
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
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 Hello Miller,
 
 I get errors after :
 $ sudo make install
 ...
 make install-data-hook
 make[5]: Entering directory
 `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
 cd /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/expr~  ( \
 ln -s expr~.pd_linux expr.pd_linux; \
 ln -s expr~.pd_linux fexpr~.pd_linux; \
 cd ..; \
 ln -s expr~/expr.pd_linux expr.pd_linux; \
 ln -s expr~/expr~.pd_linux expr~.pd_linux; \
 ln -s expr~/fexpr~.pd_linux fexpr~.pd_linux; \
 ln -s expr~/expr-help.pd expr-help.pd; \
 ln -s expr~/expr-help.pd expr~-help.pd; \
 ln -s expr~/expr-help.pd fexpr~-help.pd; \
 )
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr.pd_linux’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘fexpr~.pd_linux’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr.pd_linux’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr~.pd_linux’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘fexpr~.pd_linux’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr-help.pd’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘expr~-help.pd’: File exists
 ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘fexpr~-help.pd’: File exists
 make[5]: *** [install-data-hook] Error 1
 make[5]: Leaving directory
 `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
 make[4]: *** [install-data-am] Error 2
 make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
 make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra/expr~'
 make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1/extra'
 make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jack/Téléchargements/pd-0.45-0test1'
 make: *** [install] Error 2
 
 My system :
 Ubuntu 13.04
 Linux jack-GE60-0NC-0ND 3.8.0-27-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 9
 00:17:05 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
right you are... fixed.  

chanks
M
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:08:36PM +0200, Jack wrote:
 Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
  Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
  Some new features:
 
  binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)
 
  pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock 
  although
  not yet perfect
 
  multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
  replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
  sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.
 
  texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.
 
  tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In 
  particular
  you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
  changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.
 
  Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.  
 
  Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:
 
  The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not
 
  Fixed hangups exiting when using jack
 
  Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
  long.)
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
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 Re-hello Miller,
 
 In your help patch about [delay], when you write about 'tempo' :
 In this example the unit is set to 1/2 millisecond so that '1000' gives
 a delay of 2000 msec (2 seconds).
 This should give a 500 ms instead 2000 ms, or i am wrong ?
 ++
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Katya -

Most likely the 'list' trouble is it has a 'del' object - here's the fix:

--- a/src/x_time.c
+++ b/src/x_time.c
@@ -127,8 +127,7 @@ static void delay_setup(void)
 delay_class = class_new(gensym(delay), (t_newmethod)delay_new,
 (t_method)delay_free, sizeof(t_delay), 0,
 A_DEFFLOAT, A_DEFFLOAT, A_DEFSYM, 0);
-class_addcreator((t_newmethod)delay_new, gensym(del),
-A_DEFFLOAT, , A_DEFFLOAT, A_DEFSYM, 0);
+class_addcreator((t_newmethod)delay_new, gensym(del), A_DEFFLOAT, 0);
 class_addbang(delay_class, delay_bang);
 class_addmethod(delay_class, (t_method)delay_stop, gensym(stop), 0);
 class_addmethod(delay_class, (t_method)delay_ft1,

(which I'll put in test 2 later but you can patch it now if you don't want to
wait :)

The business of sharing [text] borrows ideas from the design of [delwrite~] 
but also (in being able to operate anonymously through pointers) from
Krzysztof Czaja's very ahead-of-its-time design for the [xeq] object.

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:44:56PM +0200, katja wrote:
 Hi Miller,
 
 That's a lot of new, very useful features! It is really cool to have a
 decent text editor within Pd. I like how methods on named [text] and
 [array] objects can be called from any place (depending on scope),
 since you can get output where you want it instead of everything
 coming from one outlet. Therefore [text] is more powerful than
 [cyclone/coll] indeed. Wasn't Jonathan Wilkes proposing a similar
 approach for glists in general some time ago?
 
 I compiled Pd 0.45-0test1 on Xubuntu 10.4. I'm sorry to report the
 following: if the help patch for [list] is opened, Pd exits with
 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)'.
 
 Katja
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
  Some new features:
 
  binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)
 
  pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock 
  although
  not yet perfect
 
  multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
  replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
  sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.
 
  texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.
 
  tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In 
  particular
  you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
  changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.
 
  Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.
 
  Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:
 
  The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not
 
  Fixed hangups exiting when using jack
 
  Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
  long.)
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Can you remind me what OS and audio hardware you're on?  (I tested this
on Windows XP / ASIO4ALL but clearly I need to figure out how to test other
configurations somehow.)

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:25:09PM +0200, Colet Patrice wrote:
 Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)
 
 
 I've got ASIO working only from cmd:
 
 pd -asio
 
 Great! Thanks a lot!
 
 When I start pd (without -asio) and choose ASIO in GUI menu it's
 still stucking,
 
 cheers,
 
 PatCo

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread João Pais

When testing the text and data structures example, when clicking on the 0 
message, Pd freezes in OSX 10.7.5.


same in W7

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread João Pais

multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.


great, that's really nice.



texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.


is it possible to update [pointer] or other object's help files to know how? or 
send an example patch?

Can texts be used as lists in data structures?


I noticed the new scalar object. Is it also supposed to edit already existing scalars? 
Can it have a delete function, which can yet only be done in edit mode or by 
deleting the whole canvas?
Besides adding an important feature to the program, it also prevents something that 
happens now and then: some scalars can become trapped inside a patch, without 
the user knowing about it, if they aren't being displayed somewhere. The only way to 
detect and delete these orphan scalars would be by editing the patch file in a text 
editor.

Best,

João

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Colet Patrice

RME fireface is plugged on my Dell Studio 1557 laptop, on Windows Vista,
there are also ASIO from cubase and ASIO4ALL.

If I start pd -asio and turn DSP on without selecting ASIO drivers, it 
freezes,
at the same time I wonder why other devices than ASIO are appearing in 
listdev,

the freeze might be caused because PA is using wrong driver

'pd -asio -listdev' shows in console:

audio input devices:
1. (0)Mappeur de sons Microsoft - Input
2. (0)Microphone / Ligne entree (IDT
3. (0)Analog (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
4. (0)Reseau de microphones (IDT High
5. (0)ADAT (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
6. (0)Analog (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
7. (0)Analog (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
8. (0)SPDIF (RME Fireface 400)
9. (0)ADAT (1+2) (RME Fireface 400)
10. (0)Analog (1+2) (RME Fireface 400)
11. (0)ADAT (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
12. (0)ADAT (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
13. (1)ASIO Fireface
14. (1)ASIO4ALL v2
15. (1)Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver
audio output devices:
1. (0)Mappeur de sons Microsoft - Output
2. (0)Haut-parleurs (RME Fireface 400
3. (0)Analog (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
4. (0)ADAT (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
5. (0)SPDIF (RME Fireface 400)
6. (0)Analog (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
7. (0)ADAT (1+2) (RME Fireface 400)
8. (0)ADAT (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
9. (0)Haut-parleurs / Casque (IDT Hig
10. (0)Analog (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
11. (0)ADAT (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
12. (1)ASIO Fireface
13. (1)ASIO4ALL v2
14. (1)Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver

Le 18/08/2013 21:34, Miller Puckette a écrit :

Can you remind me what OS and audio hardware you're on?  (I tested this
on Windows XP / ASIO4ALL but clearly I need to figure out how to test other
configurations somehow.)

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:25:09PM +0200, Colet Patrice wrote:

Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :

Hi all,

Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1


Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
long.)


I've got ASIO working only from cmd:

pd -asio

Great! Thanks a lot!

When I start pd (without -asio) and choose ASIO in GUI menu it's
still stucking,

cheers,

PatCo



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep - I need to update pointer's help file to mention text items in
scalars - meanwhile the magic is described in the [text] help file.  But
there's a bug report out already (don't hit the '0' message :)

I'm planning to make a way for the 'pointer' object to delete individual
scalars but can't decide yet between two possible ways of doing it :)

M

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 08:47:36PM +0100, João Pais wrote:
 multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
 replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
 sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.
 
 great, that's really nice.
 
 
 texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.
 
 is it possible to update [pointer] or other object's help files to know how? 
 or send an example patch?
 
 Can texts be used as lists in data structures?
 
 
 I noticed the new scalar object. Is it also supposed to edit already existing 
 scalars? Can it have a delete function, which can yet only be done in edit 
 mode or by deleting the whole canvas?
 Besides adding an important feature to the program, it also prevents 
 something that happens now and then: some scalars can become trapped inside 
 a patch, without the user knowing about it, if they aren't being displayed 
 somewhere. The only way to detect and delete these orphan scalars would be by 
 editing the patch file in a text editor.
 
 Best,
 
 João

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
It's confusing -- portaudio is configured to allow either MMIO or ASIO.  I'm
thinking about taking the MMIO stuff out since it's already covered in the
other API option.  But I can't help worrying that PA's MMIO implementation 
will work for some cases that mine won't.  Meanwhile I'll put in a hack to
improve clarity at least.

Sounds like I migth be able to get this to fail on my end just by repeatedly
turning DSP and ASIO on and off... I'll try that as soon as I can stomach
booting my old Windows box again :)

M

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:49:42PM +0200, Colet Patrice wrote:
 RME fireface is plugged on my Dell Studio 1557 laptop, on Windows Vista,
 there are also ASIO from cubase and ASIO4ALL.
 
 If I start pd -asio and turn DSP on without selecting ASIO drivers,
 it freezes,
 at the same time I wonder why other devices than ASIO are appearing
 in listdev,
 the freeze might be caused because PA is using wrong driver
 
 'pd -asio -listdev' shows in console:
 
 audio input devices:
 1. (0)Mappeur de sons Microsoft - Input
 2. (0)Microphone / Ligne entree (IDT
 3. (0)Analog (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
 4. (0)Reseau de microphones (IDT High
 5. (0)ADAT (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
 6. (0)Analog (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
 7. (0)Analog (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
 8. (0)SPDIF (RME Fireface 400)
 9. (0)ADAT (1+2) (RME Fireface 400)
 10. (0)Analog (1+2) (RME Fireface 400)
 11. (0)ADAT (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
 12. (0)ADAT (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
 13. (1)ASIO Fireface
 14. (1)ASIO4ALL v2
 15. (1)Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver
 audio output devices:
 1. (0)Mappeur de sons Microsoft - Output
 2. (0)Haut-parleurs (RME Fireface 400
 3. (0)Analog (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
 4. (0)ADAT (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
 5. (0)SPDIF (RME Fireface 400)
 6. (0)Analog (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
 7. (0)ADAT (1+2) (RME Fireface 400)
 8. (0)ADAT (3+4) (RME Fireface 400)
 9. (0)Haut-parleurs / Casque (IDT Hig
 10. (0)Analog (7+8) (RME Fireface 400)
 11. (0)ADAT (5+6) (RME Fireface 400)
 12. (1)ASIO Fireface
 13. (1)ASIO4ALL v2
 14. (1)Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver
 
 Le 18/08/2013 21:34, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Can you remind me what OS and audio hardware you're on?  (I tested this
 on Windows XP / ASIO4ALL but clearly I need to figure out how to test other
 configurations somehow.)
 
 cheers
 Miller
 
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:25:09PM +0200, Colet Patrice wrote:
 Le 18/08/2013 03:51, Miller Puckette a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
git clone 
  git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test1
 
 
 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for 
 how
 long.)
 
 I've got ASIO working only from cmd:
 
 pd -asio
 
 Great! Thanks a lot!
 
 When I start pd (without -asio) and choose ASIO in GUI menu it's
 still stucking,
 
 cheers,
 
 PatCo
 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes

On 08/18/2013 03:47 PM, João Pais wrote:

multi-purpose array and text objects. Array is a more general
replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts. text is
sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.


great, that's really nice.



How are they more powerful than coll?  What do they do?

I assume they come with the same data-loss (what goes in as symbol may
come out as float) and symbol-table anxiety (don't fill it up!) Pd currently
comes with.




texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.


is it possible to update [pointer] or other object's help files to 
know how? or send an example patch?


Can texts be used as lists in data structures?


I noticed the new scalar object.


What does it do?

Is it also supposed to edit already existing scalars? Can it have a 
delete function, which can yet only be done in edit mode or by 
deleting the whole canvas?
Besides adding an important feature to the program, it also prevents 
something that happens now and then: some scalars can become trapped 
inside a patch, without the user knowing about it, if they aren't 
being displayed somewhere. The only way to detect and delete these 
orphan scalars would be by editing the patch file in a text editor.


Best,

João

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... looks like you can git-clone it as follows:

  git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data \
pure-data-pure-data
  cd pure-data-pure-data
  git checkout HEAD

I don't know why it's now called 'pure-data-pure-data' nor how to give it
a simpler name.  Astonishingly, one can still apparently check out 'pure-data'
instead of 'pure-data-pure-data' and one gets an old version; I'd love to be
able to delete that or consolidate teh two somehow, but am afraid to try.

cheers
Miller

 Hi Miller,
 
 Thanks for the new features!
 
 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
  or via git from sourceforge:
git clone git://
  pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
git checkout 0.45-0test
 
 
 It seems to me that there is no tag or branch named 0.45-.. available.
 
 user@desktop:~/git/pure-data$ git checkout 0.4
 0.41-0test06   0.43   0.43-2 0.43-4 0.44-0test2
 0.42   0.43-1 0.43-2test10.43-test1 0.44-1
 0.42-4 0.43-1test30.43-3 0.44-0 0.44-3
 0.42-5 0.43-1test40.43-3test10.44-0test1
 
 Kind regards,
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Re: [PD] Error: invalid command name pd

2013-08-18 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi Jonathan,

OK, here is a rundown of what I did to get tot working. Remember that I added 
elements FROM the svn version TO the downloadable verision from Krzystof's site.

in the miXed/shared/hammer directory:
gui.c needed all pd [concat etc] statements changed to pdsend [concat etc] as 
was advised.
file.c and file.h:
I changed the function

void hammereditor_open(t_hammerfile *f, char *title);

to add the third argument:

void hammereditor_open(t_hammerfile *f, char *title, char *owner);

and copied the relevant function from the svn version into file.c, overwriting 
the version that was there.

Also, in the downloaded tarball from Krzystof's site (I hope I got his name 
right) there was an extra function I added to file.h and file.c:

void hammereditor_setdirty(t_hammerfile *f, int flag);

from the svn version.

NOTE: I am only pasting the file.h declarations, so you'll have to check the 
files out for yourself. But I am including a tarball of only the files I 
changed.


I'm pretty sure that's all I did, but the annoying thing about the download was 
that cyclone had its own separate copy of the shared/ directory, so each file 
had to be copied into it as well. That's why you'll find a duplicated of the 
files in the cyclone folder, where none exists in the svn folder (again - I've 
removed everything I didn't have to change).

Also, I made sure I unzipped both the downloaded cyclone source file and the 
downloaded toxy source file into a folder I called miXed somewhere else from 
the svn copy on my hard drive. I don't know if it made any difference, but they 
were in the same folder I guess.

That's what I did. I didn't have to edit the Makefile.common in the root miXed 
directory, as I should expect since my m_pd.h, m_imp.h and g_canvas.h files I 
always copy to /usr/include when I install a new version of Pd. But I also 
notice that in the download versions of cyclone and toxy there are copies of 
m_pd.h and m_imp.h floating around!

Cheers,
Ed




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 From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
To: Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at 
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 16:17
Subject: Re: [PD] Error: invalid command name pd
 


On 08/16/2013 09:44 PM, Ed Kelly wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

I did that, but the SVN code has been hacked in a way where
[tot] doesn't work. My hacks on the other hand (in the email
miXed remix earlier - tarball enclosed) make [tot] work and
other things are broken.

The files gui.c, file.c and file.h in miXed/shared/hammer and
the file scriptlet.c in miXed/shared/toxy are the files that
needed pd [concat etc etc] changing to pdsend [concat etc etc].

My tot works with Pd 0.44 and that means I can do some gigs soon
with my tracker patches. That's good enough for me, for now, but
it would be great if we could get the whole of miXed fixed up to
the latest Pd standards. 

What are the difference between your tarball and svn for the code
that is shared among the various libraries in miXed?

-Jonathan



I don't want to go near widget though - I got it to work once
only, in 2005 on a G5 mac!

Cheers,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
OK .. this and Jaime's other report (x labels not updating when resize table
using [array size] should now be fixed in git (to appear in 'test 2 later -
first I want to look at ASIO some more)

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 08:47:34PM +0100, João Pais wrote:
 When testing the text and data structures example, when clicking on the 0 
 message, Pd freezes in OSX 10.7.5.
 
 same in W7

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hi there, looks like awesome updates!!!

how is the max version of pd~ coming up by the way?

cheers


2013/8/18, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:
 OK .. this and Jaime's other report (x labels not updating when resize
 table
 using [array size] should now be fixed in git (to appear in 'test 2 later -
 first I want to look at ASIO some more)

 cheers
 Miller

 On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 08:47:34PM +0100, João Pais wrote:
 When testing the text and data structures example, when clicking on the
  0 message, Pd freezes in OSX 10.7.5.

 same in W7

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Re: [PD] puredata extended future request

2013-08-18 Thread zmoelnig


Quoting Olivier Baudry olivierbaudry@hotmail.fr:


Puredata-extended version 0.44

Some objects like :  thispatcher,


iemguts


jit.cellblock,


Gem, gridflow (i'm not sure whether the latter is included in PdX)


matrixcontrol~,


see joao's original reply


textedit,


that's Pd-0.45(vanilla) for you


and possibility to read javascript inside


javascript? we prefer lua and python


are Welcome


just submit your implementations to the patchtracker [1].
eventually they will be included in the next release.


fgmasdr
IOhannes

[1] http://sf.net/p/pure-data/patches/


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 08/18/13 03:51, Miller Puckette wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Pd 0.45-0test1 is now up on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
   git checkout 0.45-0test1

great news.

i'm currently more or less offline, so i couldn't really have a closer
look yet.

in the meantime, would it be possible to do a quick check on the patches
used for the Debian packages [1], and see which ones should be included
upstream as well?


i'll be flying back from australia today, and once i'm there i can
hopefully suggest more specific patches to be included (for now i mainly
don't want to miss the window-of-opportunity).

fgmasdr
IOhannes



[1] http://sources.debian.net/src/puredata/0.44.3-1/debian/patches


 
 
 Some new features:
 
 binary netsend/netreceive (so you should no longer need an extern for OSC)
 
 pd~ (multiprocessing) works on windows and is less likely to deadlock although
 not yet perfect
 
 multi-purpose array and text objects.  Array is a more general
 replacement for the table, tabread and tabwrite obejcts.  text is
 sort of like Max's coll but simpler and hopefully more powerful.
 
 texts are also avaioable as fields in data structures.
 
 tempo messages for delay, metro, timer, and test sequence.  In particular
 you can specify or measure time in samples, but you can also use this for
 changing the speed of an ensemble of delay loops while keeping them in sync.
 
 Objects/messages/comments have settable box widths.  
 
 Also various improvements in audio and midi handling:
 
 The Pd window now tells you whether PD has an audio device open or not
 
 Fixed hangups exiting when using jack
 
 Got ASIO working again on PC (it was apparently broken; I don't know for how
 long.)
 
 cheers
 Miller
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
I'll check - if they look safe I'l lthrow them in.

cheers
M

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:45:48AM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
 
 great news.
 
 i'm currently more or less offline, so i couldn't really have a closer
 look yet.
 
 in the meantime, would it be possible to do a quick check on the patches
 used for the Debian packages [1], and see which ones should be included
 upstream as well?
 
 
 i'll be flying back from australia today, and once i'm there i can
 hopefully suggest more specific patches to be included (for now i mainly
 don't want to miss the window-of-opportunity).
 
 fgmasdr
 IOhannes
 
 
 
 [1] http://sources.debian.net/src/puredata/0.44.3-1/debian/patches
 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45 test release

2013-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... I left these ones out:

pd2puredata.patch
usrlibpd_path.patch
fixmanpage.patch
helpbrowser_puredata-doc.patch

since I think they're debian-specific; took the other 11.  Thanks - they look
helpful!

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 08:21:21PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
 I'll check - if they look safe I'l lthrow them in.
 
 cheers
 M
 
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:45:48AM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
  
  great news.
  
  i'm currently more or less offline, so i couldn't really have a closer
  look yet.
  
  in the meantime, would it be possible to do a quick check on the patches
  used for the Debian packages [1], and see which ones should be included
  upstream as well?
  
  
  i'll be flying back from australia today, and once i'm there i can
  hopefully suggest more specific patches to be included (for now i mainly
  don't want to miss the window-of-opportunity).
  
  fgmasdr
  IOhannes
  
  
  
  [1] http://sources.debian.net/src/puredata/0.44.3-1/debian/patches
  
 
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