Re: [PD] PLEASE HELP ME (CLICKS AND POPS FROM KNOBS)

2013-09-22 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
The frequency inlets of [lop~] and [hip~] don't take signals, that's why
you get clicks. You have to implement the filters yourself using [rpole~],
[rzero~], [cpole~] and [czero~]. You can read the theory here
http://msp.ucsd.edu/techniques/latest/book-html/node139.html

Or you can go to Pd's forum and check some post from Maelstorm
(administrator). His posting signature is his library of abstractions that
include all kinds of filters driven by signals too.


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Luca Mani manif...@yahoo.it wrote:

 Hello is there a way to avoid clicks and pops coming out when moving the
 frequency/bandwith knobs  of the lowpass and hipass filters of the pd
 library?
 line~ and sig~ lop are not working because the knobs are not controlling
 an audio signal.


 Thanks in advance


 Luca

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Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches

2013-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma

 That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance
 of Pd from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance
 you already had if you tried to open it from the operating system.

 Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two
 Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my
 musioc...and we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the
 audio one was set up.


well, personally most times, when developing, I need to create abstractions
and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if two
instances of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very annoying.

Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at
a time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess.

I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this kind
of configuration. Like, always open a new Pd instance, always use one Pd
only... something like that. imho it would be useful.

cheers,
M
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Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches

2013-09-22 Thread Ed Kelly
That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance of Pd 
from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance you 
already had if you tried to open it from the operating system.

Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two 
Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my musioc...and 
we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the audio one was set 
up.




well, personally most times, when  developing, I need to create abstractions 
and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if two instances 
of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very annoying.


Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at a 
time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess.



Ah yes, students. 

Student: But why can't I just double-click on the patch? It works for 
everything else?

Tutor: Because the audio driver will only work with the first instance of Pd 
you opened.

Student: This software is rubbish. I hate Pd. Can we do something easier? It's 
too hard.

Fortunately I've just been made redundant from the institution where these 
words were spoken /;-/

Cheers,
Ed


I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this kind of 
configuration. Like, always open a new Pd instance, always use one Pd 
only... something like that. imho it would be useful.


cheers,
M


  

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[PD] Gridflow and fonts on Raspberry Pi

2013-09-22 Thread Jack
Hello,

I found gridflow for Raspberry Pi here :
http://artengine.ca/acastonguay/gridflow/
And see a message from Claude here about Gridflow font :
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-01/034431.html

My questions :
I would like to use Raspberry Pi and Pd to render text on a screen.
I guess Gridflow could be the right library to use if it can manage
fonts and if it is stable on RPi ?
Is there an other library (or idea) for this purpose ? For example : a
pd window in fullscreen with a canvas with text ? In this case, how to
achieve that (fullscreen without menubar and window title bar with pd).

I am on raspbian :
PRETTY_NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux
VERSION_ID=7
VERSION=7 (wheezy)
Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013
armv6l GNU/Linux
with Pd-0.45.2 () compiled 16:14:18 Sep 17 2013.
Thanx for any help.
++

Jack



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[PD] PLEASE HELP WITH EQ BUILDING

2013-09-22 Thread Luca Mani
Hello does anybody knows how to build a 3 bands eq with the following 
adjustable parameters: FREQUENCY, GAIN +- and Q?
Or has a couple of examples to show me please ? 

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[PD] Fwd: pd-extended crash

2013-09-22 Thread Olivier Baudry


Dear all


I encouter crash on last pd extended on Mac Os Lion 

Process: pd [794]
Path:   
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd
Identifier:  pd
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  Pd-extended [789]

Date/Time:   2013-09-22 16:30:59.040 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63)
Report Version:  9

Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x2028

VM Regions Near 0x2028:
__PAGEZERO -1000 [4K]
---/--- SM=NUL  /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
-- __TEXT 1000-0007f000 [  504K]
r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
__DATA 0007f000-0009 [   68K]
rw-/rwx SM=PRV  /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

Application Specific Information:
objc[794]: garbage collection is OFF

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   pd0x0005dfd9 magicGlass_moveText + 9
1   pd0x0002524e canvas_doclick + 2398
2   pd0x00025701 canvas_motion + 177
3   pd0x0002bb3b pd_typedmess + 1099
4   pd0x0002ba28 pd_typedmess + 824
5   pd0x0002febd binbuf_eval + 1565
6   pd0x00038c18 socketreceiver_read + 952
7   pd0x00037b49 sys_domicrosleep + 409
8   pd0x000351f4 m_mainloop + 596
9   pd0x0003714b sys_main + 1675
10  pd0x237b _start + 209
11  pd0x22a9 start + 41

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e7990a kevent + 10
1   libdispatch.dylib 0x91a40e04 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2   libdispatch.dylib 0x91a3f853 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53

Thread 2:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e76c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e761f6 mach_msg + 70
2   ???   0x001e57bf 0 + 1988543
3   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7f8ed9 _pthread_start + 335
4   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fc6de thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e76c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e761f6 mach_msg + 70
2   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0013cfcb
XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int, void*, int) + 101
3   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0015ff8b
MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 259
4   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x00160912
MIDIProcess::MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 24
5   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0013e59f
XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
6   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0013df69
CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 123
7   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7f8ed9 _pthread_start + 335
8   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fc6de thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e7883e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fce78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7a482a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3   pdp.pd_darwin 0x06fc65a0 pdp_procqueue_thread + 112

Thread 5:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e7883e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fce78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7a482a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3   pd0x00059fa2 readsf_child_main + 210
4   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7f8ed9 _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fc6de thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib0x91e7883e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fce78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7a482a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3   pd0x00059fa2 readsf_child_main + 210
4   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7f8ed9 _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c7fc6de thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x  ebx: 0x00024929  ecx: 0x00ba  edx: 0x0042
  edi: 0x00461ae0  esi: 0x  ebp: 0xbfffe0b8  esp: 0xbfffe0b8
   ss: 0x0023  efl: 0x00010246  eip: 0x0005dfd9   cs: 0x001b
   ds: 0x0023   es: 0x0023   fs: 0x   gs: 0x000f
  cr2: 0x2028
Logical CPU: 1

Binary Images:
0x1000 -0x7efe7 +pd (??? - ???)
0E6301B5-8C95-2292-68E0-CC5111BBF615
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
   0xcd000 -

[PD] alsa and jack on ARM/Wandbaord

2013-09-22 Thread Chris Clepper
I've got a Wandboard* here for some testing and I can't get Alsa to work in
duplex.  Testing with arecord produces a soundfile and aplay plays it back.
 But starting Pd with Alsa or jack gives the dreaded errors about the
resource being in use.  Pd's performance with just playback is pretty good
- pvoc example takes 20% cpu at 10ms latency - but I want to process some
audio input!

I built my own armhf kernel (much faster than armel) and have a very basic
Ubuntu filesystem in place.  There's no obvious process like pulseaudio
grabbing the audio hardware either.  Jack has all of the limits.conf set
high.

The audio device is sgtl5000 from Freescale.

What's the usual setup and troubleshooting process for Pd on Linux these
days?  Seems like these things are mostly sorted on x86, so maybe the
problem is driver or armhf related.

Thanks!

*Dual Cortex A9 box for $100: http://wandboard.org/
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Re: [PD] Gridflow and fonts on Raspberry Pi

2013-09-22 Thread Colet Patrice

Hello jack,

 I don't know about raspberry, but it seems tcltk is used for te GUI, 
so what about using [sys_gui] for generating the interface?


 a toplevel -fullscreen should be able to do what you are looking for, 
it's also possible to create fonts


Le 22/09/2013 19:10, Jack a écrit :

Hello,

I found gridflow for Raspberry Pi here :
http://artengine.ca/acastonguay/gridflow/
And see a message from Claude here about Gridflow font :
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-01/034431.html

My questions :
I would like to use Raspberry Pi and Pd to render text on a screen.
I guess Gridflow could be the right library to use if it can manage
fonts and if it is stable on RPi ?
Is there an other library (or idea) for this purpose ? For example : a
pd window in fullscreen with a canvas with text ? In this case, how to
achieve that (fullscreen without menubar and window title bar with pd).

I am on raspbian :
PRETTY_NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux
VERSION_ID=7
VERSION=7 (wheezy)
Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013
armv6l GNU/Linux
with Pd-0.45.2 () compiled 16:14:18 Sep 17 2013.
Thanx for any help.
++

Jack



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Re: [PD] alsa and jack on ARM/Wandbaord

2013-09-22 Thread katja
Hello Chris,

It may be unrelated but with Debian Squeeze on particular Intel laptops
(Panasonic CF-74 and CF-19) I've always experienced that same problem:
recording works, playback works, but no duplex sound from Pd or Jack out of
the box. In these cases it was a matter of unchecking as many unused
options as possible in the ALSA mixer, in particular 'IEC958 Default PCM'
(don't know if you have that option). That used to make the difference
every time though I still don't know why.

Katja


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chris Clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a Wandboard* here for some testing and I can't get Alsa to work
 in duplex.  Testing with arecord produces a soundfile and aplay plays it
 back.  But starting Pd with Alsa or jack gives the dreaded errors about the
 resource being in use.  Pd's performance with just playback is pretty good
 - pvoc example takes 20% cpu at 10ms latency - but I want to process some
 audio input!

 I built my own armhf kernel (much faster than armel) and have a very basic
 Ubuntu filesystem in place.  There's no obvious process like pulseaudio
 grabbing the audio hardware either.  Jack has all of the limits.conf set
 high.

 The audio device is sgtl5000 from Freescale.

 What's the usual setup and troubleshooting process for Pd on Linux these
 days?  Seems like these things are mostly sorted on x86, so maybe the
 problem is driver or armhf related.

 Thanks!

 *Dual Cortex A9 box for $100: http://wandboard.org/


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Re: [PD] alsa and jack on ARM/Wandbaord

2013-09-22 Thread Chris Clepper
Hi Katja

This is a pretty basic device with just hw0:0 for capture and playback, but
I will double check the mixer settings.

Someone from Freescale has been in touch and it looks like either a driver
issue (fixable) or errata on the board (not fixable).

I might try a USB audio device.  Anyone know what ones work with ARM?

Chris


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 It may be unrelated but with Debian Squeeze on particular Intel laptops
 (Panasonic CF-74 and CF-19) I've always experienced that same problem:
 recording works, playback works, but no duplex sound from Pd or Jack out of
 the box. In these cases it was a matter of unchecking as many unused
 options as possible in the ALSA mixer, in particular 'IEC958 Default PCM'
 (don't know if you have that option). That used to make the difference
 every time though I still don't know why.

 Katja


 On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chris Clepper cgclep...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've got a Wandboard* here for some testing and I can't get Alsa to work
 in duplex.  Testing with arecord produces a soundfile and aplay plays it
 back.  But starting Pd with Alsa or jack gives the dreaded errors about the
 resource being in use.  Pd's performance with just playback is pretty good
 - pvoc example takes 20% cpu at 10ms latency - but I want to process some
 audio input!

 I built my own armhf kernel (much faster than armel) and have a very
 basic Ubuntu filesystem in place.  There's no obvious process like
 pulseaudio grabbing the audio hardware either.  Jack has all of the
 limits.conf set high.

 The audio device is sgtl5000 from Freescale.

 What's the usual setup and troubleshooting process for Pd on Linux these
 days?  Seems like these things are mostly sorted on x86, so maybe the
 problem is driver or armhf related.

 Thanks!

 *Dual Cortex A9 box for $100: http://wandboard.org/


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Re: [PD] Gridflow and fonts on Raspberry Pi

2013-09-22 Thread Patrice Colet
 I've collected some tricks since I'm using sys_gui, attached are the ones you 
might need to build and communicate with your interface through pd, if sys_gui 
is ok on raspberry, all the tcl and tk code is fully documented online...

Tested on Pd 0.45.0

Colet Patrice

- Mail original -
 De: Colet Patrice colet.patr...@free.fr
 À: Jack j...@rybn.org, pd-list@iem.at
 Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Septembre 2013 21:29:24
 Objet: Re: [PD] Gridflow and fonts on Raspberry Pi
 
 Hello jack,
 
   I don't know about raspberry, but it seems tcltk is used for te
   GUI,
 so what about using [sys_gui] for generating the interface?
 
   a toplevel -fullscreen should be able to do what you are looking
   for,
 it's also possible to create fonts
 
 Le 22/09/2013 19:10, Jack a écrit :
  Hello,
 
  I found gridflow for Raspberry Pi here :
  http://artengine.ca/acastonguay/gridflow/
  And see a message from Claude here about Gridflow font :
  http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-01/034431.html
 
  My questions :
  I would like to use Raspberry Pi and Pd to render text on a screen.
  I guess Gridflow could be the right library to use if it can manage
  fonts and if it is stable on RPi ?
  Is there an other library (or idea) for this purpose ? For example
  : a
  pd window in fullscreen with a canvas with text ? In this case, how
  to
  achieve that (fullscreen without menubar and window title bar with
  pd).
 
  I am on raspbian :
  PRETTY_NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)
  NAME=Raspbian GNU/Linux
  VERSION_ID=7
  VERSION=7 (wheezy)
  Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013
  armv6l GNU/Linux
  with Pd-0.45.2 () compiled 16:14:18 Sep 17 2013.
  Thanx for any help.
  ++
 
  Jack
 
 
 
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#N canvas 368 319 1135 382 10;
#X obj 18 118 sys_gui;
#X msg 18 85 eval [read [open my_script.tcl]] \, my_proc arg1 arg2
\, rename my_proc ;
#X obj 94 300 sys_gui;
#X obj 34 214 b;
#X obj 147 213 b;
#X obj 66 258 t b b;
#X obj 25 350 b;
#X obj 157 350 b;
#X obj 66 231 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X msg 66 329 do something;
#X obj 266 284 sys_gui;
#X obj 266 226 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144
-1 -1;
#X msg 266 308 do something;
#X text 41 184 wrong;
#X text 266 187 good;
#X text 69 160 tcl procedure is slower than triggers;
#X obj 433 133 sys_gui;
#X obj 433 75 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X text 8 1 patko2013;
#X msg 433 113 pdsend foo-s Hello World;
#X obj 432 157 r foo-s;
#X obj 432 179 print foo;
#X text 428 46 using FUDI;
#X obj 664 164 sys_gui;
#X text 16 48 evaluate a tcl script \, launch a procedure \, and remove
procedure from memory for avoiding duplicated proc errors;
#X obj 266 331 print something;
#X msg 689 131 destroy .mytoplevel;
#X msg 664 39 toplevel .mytoplevel;
#X msg 686 88 wm attributes .mytoplevel -fullscreen 1;
#X text 657 20 build a toplevel widget;
#X text 685 66 make it fullscreen;
#X text 695 110 close toplevel;
#X obj 664 349 sys_gui;
#X msg 266 264 puts Hello World!;
#X msg 94 280 puts Hello World!;
#X msg 664 238 font create my_font -family [list Lucida Sans] -size
14 -weight bold;
#X msg 696 291 text .mytoplevel.text -font my_font \, pack .mytoplevel.text
;
#X text 697 273 puts some text on toplevel;
#X msg 714 314 .mytoplevel.text insert end Hello World!;
#X text 657 205 create some fonts (can be done only once by instance
\, so it's better inside a proc);
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X connect 3 0 7 0;
#X connect 4 0 6 0;
#X connect 5 0 9 0;
#X connect 5 1 34 0;
#X connect 8 0 5 0;
#X connect 10 0 12 0;
#X connect 11 0 33 0;
#X connect 12 0 25 0;
#X connect 17 0 19 0;
#X connect 19 0 16 0;
#X connect 20 0 21 0;
#X connect 26 0 23 0;
#X connect 27 0 23 0;
#X connect 28 0 23 0;
#X connect 33 0 10 0;
#X connect 34 0 2 0;
#X connect 35 0 32 0;
#X connect 36 0 32 0;
#X connect 38 0 32 0;
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Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches

2013-09-22 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
FWIW, the latest pd-l2ork release has a -unique flag (disabled by default)
so whenever you open a new file by double-clicking inside a file browser, it
will open it inside an existing instance (if any) or spawn a new instance
(if none). Spawning instances with -unique flag will force creation of a new
instance.

 

From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of
Marco Donnarumma
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:14 AM
To: pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches

 

That's useful, but up until recently you had to create a second instance of
Pd from the command line anyway, since OSX would show you the instance you
already had if you tried to open it from the operating system.

Or...have I missed the point? My friend and collaborator always needs two
Pd's, one for Gemnotes and one for audio processing, to play my musioc...and
we wrote a BASH script to launch the gemnotes one after the audio one was
set up.

 

well, personally most times, when developing, I need to create abstractions
and use global variables just to experiment with stuff. And if two instances
of Pd are opened when you don't want it, it can be very annoying.

Even worst scenario when you are teaching, student might open 4 patches at a
time, and as 4 Pd instances are launched, and it's a mess.

I always wondered whether we could have a flag in Pd GUI that set this kind
of configuration. Like, always open a new Pd instance, always use one Pd
only... something like that. imho it would be useful.

cheers,
M

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[PD] from poles/zeros to biquad coefficients - how to? (something like max's z-plane)

2013-09-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi there. So, I've been studying a lot about filters, and I'm doing this
clone of max's z-plane in Pd.

I hope anyone can help me guide where to find how to convert the values of
the complex poles and zeros to biquad coefficients. I really needed that...

Sorry if I missed it in Miller's book or some other obvious reference, I'm
just really a newbie in filter design.

Thanks
Alex
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