[PD] Zexy build errors from Pd-extended
I built zexy from svn-repo (revision: r17214) and I have same issue as in zexy tarball release, -- I have no [pack~] and [unpack~], but if I using zexy from binary debian package (Pd-0.44.0-extended-20140130-debian-wheezy-amd64), -- then I have [pack~] and [unpack~], and because pd-extended zexy version has this object, -- I trying to build pd-extended zexy version, but I can't. On 30 January 2014 18:03, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 01/30/2014 01:43 PM, John Smith wrote: Hello. I try to build zexy from Pd-extended_0.43.4-source.tar.bz2. please post a complete build log (without omissions). also, why don't you use either an svn-checkout of zexy: svn clone https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/zexy or a release tarball http://puredata.info/downloads/zexy/2.2.5/ afaik, the Pd-extended sources are really for building the entire Pd-extended suite (which builds zexy in a slightly different way). fg,ar IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Zexy build errors from Pd-extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-31 12:10, John Smith wrote: I built zexy from svn-repo (revision: r17214) and I have same issue as in zexy tarball release, -- I have no [pack~] and [unpack~], but if I using zexy from binary debian package (Pd-0.44.0-extended-20140130-debian-wheezy-amd64), -- then I have [pack~] and [unpack~], and because pd-extended zexy version has this object, -- I trying to build pd-extended zexy version, but I can't. then you have something else wrong. [pack~] and [unpack~] *are* part of zexy-2.2.4, zexy-2.2.5 and today's zexy-svn (rev.17259). i just checked all of them. #1) by default, zexy will build a single binary zexy.pd_linux; you have to load this library (e.g. -lib zexy, or [declare -lib zexy]) in order to use any zexy objects. this is different from pd-extended, where you get multiple binary objects (e.g. pack~.pd_linux) and you have to use [import zexy] (or add the path/to/zexy to Pd's search paths). if you want to build zexy the same way as pd-extended builds it, you ought to use the --disable-library flag when running ./configure (don't forget to run make clean before running make again). #2) i still don't really understand your error message when compiling. there is explicit code in zexy that prevents setup from being multiply defined. what's the output when you run the f ollowing command in the src/ subfolder? gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -DZEXY_LIBRARY -g -O2 -mms-bitfields 0x2e.c -fPIC -DPIC fgsdmr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS65IqAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4JYYP/2RTURy/yt89yYd4ZXiNWvgW dOj0fhQlZ4ro3AM5wxDlAPDC4mxvxmZwsxuwG8tft+1x3/VSDey+M3ZXKC56lAeP CP3OAPQmzooi1eH+pMWUXd3NQSfr9eSgPNAk/qRYR1+ZdZO9U9tKvS6Sb4xouSsL TwxWLJiPLiyzV4NZT5VGps07FWYmsXBx204QyH2yu8J+mkYjGsvVM006DzRqVM+H 7MlVDCcmbqiaDm1gDuMRmVhH9yL6ai/r0a0x35/DqgeIbru1FKloJ9nMMHA5/SK5 ki2EZvJT1TdMGSPM95UxmZloIP4Bpouw5iuvBzGD2ZxfOT9xkNeci296QMD4aiuZ UnhMncpyS9ebzBXBW3anEg1ACGlH1WOb7RsL1aHswOvjIcnT/sJ1sJzFcX6diTCF uvKjCqUatxkms7C74SI6U52+4XDD7jNHKcK+/mZ3KovZnROw2raslkrMrWih4M1z QdgXfOASK42IPTCrQBsTPbZa3PCFx67B+uIFdUfak/IiUhthGVP1wjnR3KiMd24q FRIKMqIoMZCxSms1YD98enEuKvtZhvoeRIlnB8ycRCC6HpIxLIkGwHWpsS3X2ou+ gjQP8Ch6PgjRuUSh6yh1AeLkBQydC28uMGl6ZilEoB+69MbnSIu3yTKctgHcBLea cDYI3cwSyivVvlbyv7pH =9yYW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] job offer in Weimar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At the Bauhaus-Universität Weimar is another position open. Since understanding basic german is a requirement, the announcement follows in german. This position is more or less what I was doing there when I was employed there. Please also apply even if you don't fulfill the requirements completely. And let me know if you applied. M. http://www.uni-weimar.de/de/universitaet/aktuell/stellenausschreibungen/m0123/ An der Fakultät Medien der Bauhaus-Universität Weimar ist zum 1. April 2014 an der Professur Gestaltung medialer Umgebungen die Stelle einer/eines künstlerischen Mitarbeiterin/Mitarbeiters zu besetzen. Die Stelle ist zunächst auf 3 Jahre befristet. Eine Verlängerung ist nach den geltenden Regelungen des Wissenschaftszeitvertragsgesetzes (WissZeitVG) möglich. Es handelt sich um eine Teilzeitstelle. Die wöchentliche Arbeitszeit beträgt 24 Stunden. Aufgabengebiet: Vorbereitung und Durchführung von Lehrveranstaltungen (8 LVS) im Bereich der praktischen Medienkunst (Interaktion, Netz, Video, Bioart). Mitarbeit bei den organisatorischen und forschenden Aktivitäten der Professur. Die Professur verfügt über eine Performance-Plattform und ein DIY Biolab, die in die Lehre eingebunden werden sollen. Einstellungsvoraussetzungen: Abgeschlossenes Hochschulstudium der Fachrichtung Medienkunst, Kunst oder Design Erfahrung in Grafikprogrammierung und Interfacegestaltung und/oder Elektronik, Bioart, hohe künstlerische Kompetenz Fremdsprachenkenntnisse (Englisch) Berufliche Praxis, pädagogische Eignung, selbstständiges Arbeiten Die Vergütung richtet sich nach den Bestimmungen des Tarifvertrages für den öffentlichen Dienst der Länder (TV-L) entsprechend den persönlichen Voraussetzungen bis zur Entgeltgruppe 13 TV-L. Die Bauhaus-Universität ist bestrebt, den Anteil von Frauen in Lehre und Forschung zu erhöhen. Daher werden insbesondere Frauen gebeten, sich zu bewerben. Schwerbehinderte Menschen werden bei gleicher Eignung bevorzugt berücksichtigt. Ihre Bewerbung, mit den üblichen aussagekräftigen Unterlagen richten Sie bitte unter Angabe der Kennziffer M/WP-03/14 bis zum 23. Februar 2014 an: Bauhaus-Universität Weimar Fakultät Medien Professur Gestaltung medialer Umgebungen Frau Prof. Ursula Damm Marienstraße 5 99421 Weimar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLro5wACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6JV9QCfRlRSqrBRdoJ51nltWMTO3Qx7 CLEAn00JoLsf3Bnn0Pvx8FqYvKxU+sgy =bGlE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] console font size really big
On 01/30/2014 06:26 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Better than changing the font size globaly would be to change the
font sizes in tcl/pdwindow.tcl to negative numbers, which has the same
effect but only locally (instead of nuking everything. The particular one
is:
text .pdwindow.text -relief raised -bd 2 -font {-size 10} \
-highlightthickness 0 -borderwidth 1 -relief flat \
-yscrollcommand .pdwindow.scroll set -width 60 \
-undo false -autoseparators false -maxundo 1 -takefocus 0
(change size 10 to size -10.)
Now I should think about whether to do that in the Pd source :)
That's a difficult choice. On the one hand you'll get console output
with similar sized font on each platform. (Not pixel-exact btw because
that depends on the font renderer.) On the other you'll cause problems
for the visually impaired who really do want point-sized fonts.
Of course the latter point only holds _if_ tcl/tk reports a sane number
for [tk scaling]. That's probably not the case for OSX, and who knows
for various GNU/Linux distros. But I haven't looked to see whether this
is remedied in tk 8.6.
Btw, for those exploring other GUI toolkits for Pd: choose QT. It is as
cross-platform as anything could be, has an enormous userbase, great
documentation, and a _friendly_ community. I cannot stress that last
point enough. If someone disagrees please try porting Pd's GUI to GTK;
after you burn out from trying to deal with Gnome devs I'll buy you a beer.
-Jonathan
cheers
Miller
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 06:25:23PM -0500, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
On 01/24/2014 05:31 PM, Peter P. wrote:
Johnathan WIlkins wrote:
I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using.
Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line:
# tk scaling 1
Remove the #, save the file, and then restart Pd. See if that
solves the problem.
(Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have privileges
to edit that file)
-Jonathan
I am using fluxbox.
Indeed, editing /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl to yield
tk scaling 1
solved the problem for me.
Interestingly there is a file /usr/local/bin/pd-gui.tcl present as
well, whose changes do not have an effet. This Pd is installed using
make install from within Miller's git sources. I wonder why
pd-gui.tcl is installed twice on my system, the latter one also being
in my $PATH.
Thank you again for this quick one Jonathan.
There is a comment related to tk scaling in this very file just above
the scaling option:
# we are not using Tk scaling, so fix it to 1 on all platforms. This
# guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform
# 2013.07.19 msp - trying without this to see what breaks - it's
# having
# deleterious effects on dialog window font sizes.
Would be interesting to know wonder what the deletrious effects were.
Tk has a very friendly but very small community without the
resources to make sure everything works as advertised across all
platforms. So depending on which platform you use you'll see
different symptoms, depending on how well tk is integrated with the
guts of the window manager (in GNU/Linux, this would be not at
all), the accuracy of the info delivered to Tk from the OS/window
manager, implementation features/bugs in a particular graphics
subsystem, etc.
One detail is that if you let [tk scaling] do its thing, you'll see
problems in the postscript output if you print a patch. There's an
ugly fix somewhere for this which requires hacking the ps output to
scale it by the tk scaling factor.
But if you hard code tk scaling to 1 users on Windows will see font
problems from Tk's half-baked, hardly documented theming engine that
would require _really_ ugly hacks all over Pd to fix.
-Jonathan
But, hey- problem solved for me.
thanks
cheers
P
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Re: [PD] job offer in Weimar
Howdy Max, Out of curiosity, why did you leave? Find a better job elsewhere? Wanted to get out of sleepy Weimar? Ich finde diese Job ein bisschen interessant, aber denke ich, das meine Frau mag nicht Weimar. Sie kommt aus Hamburg und vielleicht Weimar ist zu klein. :D On Jan 31, 2014, at 1:18 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Subject: [PD] job offer in Weimar Date: January 31, 2014 at 8:22:36 AM EST To: pd-list@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At the Bauhaus-Universität Weimar is another position open. Since understanding basic german is a requirement, the announcement follows in german. This position is more or less what I was doing there when I was employed there. Please also apply even if you don't fulfill the requirements completely. And let me know if you applied. M. Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
On 01/24/2014 05:36 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Delete these lines in g_text.c:
/* for comments, just draw a bar on RHS if unlocked; when a visible
canvas is unlocked we have to call this anew on all comments, and when
locked we erase them all via the annoying commentbar tag. */
else if (x-te_type == T_TEXT glist-gl_edit)
{
if (firsttime)
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c create line\
%d %d %d %d -tags [list %sR commentbar]\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist),
x2, y1, x2, y2, tag);
else
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c coords %sR %d %d %d %d\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), tag, x2, y1, x2, y2);
}
(however, that won't disable the functionality; just the ugly marks.)
I'm still trying to think of something less ugly - tell me if you have any
ideas...
Just to give a concrete example, something like:
else if (x-te_type == T_TEXT glist-gl_edit)
{
if (firsttime)
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c create rect %d %d %d %d
-dash {1 3}
-tags [list %sR commentbar]\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), x1, y1, x2, y2, tag);
else
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c coords %sR %d %d %d %d\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), tag, x1, y1, x2, y2);
}
Then you have a visual clue that the user is in editmode, with no
ambiguity between the drawing and the text.
You can play with the dash values-- I chose those because it gives a
clear contrast to broken boxes. Use a larger 2nd integer to make the
dashed box stand out less.
Btw-- I haven't tested this. I'd be a lot more likely to try out code
on Pd Vanilla 0.45 if someone could explain to me how to do incremental
builds. If I change a single line in g_text.c in 0.43 it only requires
a single make that takes about 3 seconds. Doing the same in 0.45
requires make clean make, unnecessarily rebuilding all of Pd.
Doing make in the src directory of 0.45 only rebuilds the things that
need to recompile, but it doesn't update the binary, which makes it useless.
-Jonathan
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Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 03:47:46PM -0500, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
On 01/24/2014 05:36 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Delete these lines in g_text.c:
/* for comments, just draw a bar on RHS if unlocked; when a visible
canvas is unlocked we have to call this anew on all comments, and
when
locked we erase them all via the annoying commentbar tag. */
else if (x-te_type == T_TEXT glist-gl_edit)
{
if (firsttime)
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c create line\
%d %d %d %d -tags [list %sR commentbar]\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist),
x2, y1, x2, y2, tag);
else
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c coords %sR %d %d %d %d\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), tag, x2, y1, x2, y2);
}
(however, that won't disable the functionality; just the ugly marks.)
I'm still trying to think of something less ugly - tell me if you have any
ideas...
Just to give a concrete example, something like:
else if (x-te_type == T_TEXT glist-gl_edit)
{
if (firsttime)
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c create rect %d %d %d %d
-dash {1 3}
-tags [list %sR commentbar]\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), x1, y1, x2, y2, tag);
else
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c coords %sR %d %d %d %d\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), tag, x1, y1, x2, y2);
}
Then you have a visual clue that the user is in editmode, with no
ambiguity between the drawing and the text.
You can play with the dash values-- I chose those because it gives a
clear contrast to broken boxes. Use a larger 2nd integer to make
the dashed box stand out less.
Btw-- I haven't tested this. I'd be a lot more likely to try out
code on Pd Vanilla 0.45 if someone could explain to me how to do
incremental builds. If I change a single line in g_text.c in 0.43
it only requires a single make that takes about 3 seconds. Doing
the same in 0.45 requires make clean make, unnecessarily
rebuilding all of Pd. Doing make in the src directory of 0.45
only rebuilds the things that need to recompile, but it doesn't
update the binary, which makes it useless.
-Jonathan
cd pd/src; make -f makefile.gnu always works for me :)
M
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Re: [PD] job offer in Weimar
Woops. Sorry, I meant to repsond off list. :P On Jan 31, 2014, at 4:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] job offer in Weimar Date: January 31, 2014 at 1:39:25 PM EST To: pd-list@iem.at List pd-list@iem.at Howdy Max, Out of curiosity, why did you leave? Find a better job elsewhere? Wanted to get out of sleepy Weimar? Ich finde diese Job ein bisschen interessant, aber denke ich, das meine Frau mag nicht Weimar. Sie kommt aus Hamburg und vielleicht Weimar ist zu klein. :D Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] job offer in Weimar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 2014년 01월 31일 19:39, schrieb Dan Wilcox: Howdy Max, Out of curiosity, why did you leave? Find a better job elsewhere? Wanted to get out of sleepy Weimar? It's certainly no secret, so I might as well respond on the list: A yes/no answer isn't possible so I will elaborate a bit: I enjoyed working here, it is a really nice setting, skilled, creative and eager students, great colleagues, a lot of freedom in what and how to teach, etc. Weimar is sleepy, but it also has some benefits which are hard to find elsewhere. I chose to live here, rather than in Berlin (like many colleagues) because of reasons like the short distances and the nature around. Positions at German universities like the one I had (and the one now opened) are limited to 6 years, and non extensible. I had been working for the Bauhaus-Universität for 5 years, so I started to look around for other options. I found one: since September I am Professor at the Yeungnam University in Gyeongsan (Daegu), Korea. It's very exciting to be there. I work with sculpture and painting students, which is a great challenge for me, just like learning the language. Cheers! Max -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLsXH4ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6K+9ACcD4O2JAfptW3BeI5yMajuWpMG /g0AnAqNehcBOZ4PxIV+FlQhekEpNYIc =sLV+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
