Re: [PD] check mail with pd ?
On 09/02/14 16:34, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 02/08/2014 11:44 PM, Simon Wise wrote: ... It would be nice to be able to do this natively, especially since many Pd programmers are not that familiar with procedural programming. It is certainly practical and worthwhile to extend Pd for this but that requires some of the things that have been long put off till later for a very very long time. Meanwhile the Lua external provides the way to do what remains problematic natively (as much due to policy as anything else) and anyone capable of adding functionality to Pd will find it much much easier to use Lau than to engage in a huge and perhaps fruitless effort to push it into Pd. It sounds like you are rationalizing and encouraging non-development. More pointing out the frustrations that have been experienced in the past, and noting that decisions about what is added to Pd core are very consistent and are very careful, cautious and slow in these areas in particular. As you pointed out adding something like a string type without introducing it to [print] is not good, so ... you use clumsy workarounds that don't actually allow strings in messages, perhaps just pointers to stings with arcane results in [print] ... or write a bunch of replacement core objects that recognise strings to use within the library such as [stringprint] etc ... or use a fork with enhanced types and core objects that may or may not be compatible with some eventual core string type. It may be worth enhancing pd-l2ork this way as it has already departed considerably from pd, their choice has been to speed up development by bypassing these issues and pushing ahead without integration with core Pd, but I think adding strings confined to a small set of string-aware objects which remain otherwise compatible with vanilla the way gridflow added matrices isn't worth it, there is a much greater pay-off with matrices ... gridflow is a huge project with a very substantial library of matrix operations, while the authors long ago abandoned hope of their efforts being included in vanilla and develop in parallel. Development effort on a smaller scale is probably better spent in ways that will integrate with core pd, and there are plenty of those ... including your own solid efforts. But it also sounds like we agree that there is nothing about boxes of text connected with lines that makes string manipulation more difficult than lines of text. Absolutely, just the absence of a well defined string type that can be sent down those lines. Arguments advancing the addition of a string selector to Pd core are very worthwhile, I guess probably on pd-dev? it ultimately is a discussion with Miller. There was a link to something being worked on currently, earlier in this thread. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
Hello, I'm wondering how to get a list of midiout devices without GUI. This has to work without GUI. I tried [mediasettings/midisettings] but it always report 0 devices (both in and out) when there is no GUI. i also know the -listdev option to Pd, but this only list devices in console, and I need to proccess the number in the patch. I observe this on Linux (both Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and Raspbian (kernel 3.10.25+) with pd 0.45-4. But it seems to be OK on MacOS with pd 0.45-3. Thanks Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
I think it's just --listdevices on the command line Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.commailto:antoine.ville...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm wondering how to get a list of midiout devices without GUI. This has to work without GUI. I tried [mediasettings/midisettings] but it always report 0 devices (both in and out) when there is no GUI. i also know the -listdev option to Pd, but this only list devices in console, and I need to proccess the number in the patch. I observe this on Linux (both Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and Raspbian (kernel 3.10.25+) with pd 0.45-4. But it seems to be OK on MacOS with pd 0.45-3. Thanks Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
thanks, but no, at least with Pd Vanilla 0.45-4, the right flag is *-listdev* to list all devices (both midi and alsa) in the PD's console. According to this 10-years old post [1], I can still make a redirection of stderr or read at it. Another solution, since my problem concern only Linux, is to read the output of `ls /dev/midi* | wc -l` to get a list of mididevices, but this doesn't tell if it's input or output. + a [1] : http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2004-10/023368.html -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2014-02-09 16:08 GMT+01:00 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu: I think it's just --listdevices on the command line Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm wondering how to get a list of midiout devices without GUI. This has to work without GUI. I tried [mediasettings/midisettings] but it always report 0 devices (both in and out) when there is no GUI. i also know the -listdev option to Pd, but this only list devices in console, and I need to proccess the number in the patch. I observe this on Linux (both Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and Raspbian (kernel 3.10.25+) with pd 0.45-4. But it seems to be OK on MacOS with pd 0.45-3. Thanks Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
hello again, I found the issue, with `-nogui`, the patch is loaded before midisettings are done (like audiosettings) and `[mediasettings/midisettings]` updates it's own device list on startup or on `[device ...(` message. So when the patch is loaded at startup without gui, `[mediasettings/midisettings(` records 0 mididevices. I have to send a dummy `[device ...(` message 1sec after loadbang to update the list and then `[listdevices(` report the right number of devices. Another solution could be to delay the patch loading. Shouldn't `[mediasettings/midisettings]` update it's own device lists on `[listdevices(` message ? + A -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2014-02-09 16:17 GMT+01:00 Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.com: thanks, but no, at least with Pd Vanilla 0.45-4, the right flag is *-listdev* to list all devices (both midi and alsa) in the PD's console. According to this 10-years old post [1], I can still make a redirection of stderr or read at it. Another solution, since my problem concern only Linux, is to read the output of `ls /dev/midi* | wc -l` to get a list of mididevices, but this doesn't tell if it's input or output. + a [1] : http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2004-10/023368.html -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2014-02-09 16:08 GMT+01:00 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu: I think it's just --listdevices on the command line Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm wondering how to get a list of midiout devices without GUI. This has to work without GUI. I tried [mediasettings/midisettings] but it always report 0 devices (both in and out) when there is no GUI. i also know the -listdev option to Pd, but this only list devices in console, and I need to proccess the number in the patch. I observe this on Linux (both Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and Raspbian (kernel 3.10.25+) with pd 0.45-4. But it seems to be OK on MacOS with pd 0.45-3. Thanks Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
In Pd-l2ork you can also do this: [print( | [pdinfo] Which prints all the info for the running Pd instance to the console, including devices. Or you can send it a message to get a specific attribute like [audio-outdev, midi-outdevlist( | [pdinfo] I tried it with [loadbang] and -nogui, and all the audio devices display properly. I can't test midi because I don't have any midi devices. -Jonathan On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:49 AM, Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.com wrote: hello again, I found the issue, with `-nogui`, the patch is loaded before midisettings are done (like audiosettings) and `[mediasettings/midisettings]` updates it's own device list on startup or on `[device ...(` message. So when the patch is loaded at startup without gui, `[mediasettings/midisettings(` records 0 mididevices. I have to send a dummy `[device ...(` message 1sec after loadbang to update the list and then `[listdevices(` report the right number of devices. Another solution could be to delay the patch loading. Shouldn't `[mediasettings/midisettings]` update it's own device lists on `[listdevices(` message ? + A -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2014-02-09 16:17 GMT+01:00 Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.com: thanks, but no, at least with Pd Vanilla 0.45-4, the right flag is *-listdev* to list all devices (both midi and alsa) in the PD's console. According to this 10-years old post [1], I can still make a redirection of stderr or read at it. Another solution, since my problem concern only Linux, is to read the output of `ls /dev/midi* | wc -l` to get a list of mididevices, but this doesn't tell if it's input or output. + a [1] : http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2004-10/023368.html -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2014-02-09 16:08 GMT+01:00 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu: I think it's just --listdevices on the command line Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Villeret antoine.ville...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm wondering how to get a list of midiout devices without GUI. This has to work without GUI. I tried [mediasettings/midisettings] but it always report 0 devices (both in and out) when there is no GUI. i also know the -listdev option to Pd, but this only list devices in console, and I need to proccess the number in the patch. I observe this on Linux (both Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and Raspbian (kernel 3.10.25+) with pd 0.45-4. But it seems to be OK on MacOS with pd 0.45-3. Thanks Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [pix_video]: no valid video backend found
Dear pd-list, I can instantiate [pix_video], but not find and use the build in webcam of my computer. I’m running Pd Pd 0.45.4 32bit with GEM: ver: 0.93.3 GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011 on a Macbook Air running OS X 10.9.1 The [dialog( message does not open a dialog window. Sending [enumerate( makes Gem print the following to the console: videoctl: enumerate could not get SG channnel Device List [pix_video]: no devices found”. When [pix_video] is instantiated it claims that [pix_video]: backend #0='Darwin' : darwin dv iidc analog “, but none the less I’m told that [pix_video]: no valid video backend found”. A Open CV library for Processing 2 ensures me that the camera does work. Using Pd-extended (shipped with Gem) doesn’t help me. Any help/clues are appreciated. I’m sorry if this is trivial or a faq. I’ve search the archives with no luck. Best, Steffen ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Released rhizome v0.1 : web server for participative performances and installations.
Hi all! I just open-sourced a web server we used to do some participative sound performances. I thought some of you might find it interesting. More info on the github page : https://github.com/sebpiq/rhizome Cheers, -- *Sébastien Piquemal* -* @sebpiq* - http://github.com/sebpiq - http://funktion.fm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD - 2] check mail with pd ?
Did you try [pyext gmail.box] | [t b f] | | [bng] [nbx\ ? Martin On 2014-02-09 17:19, Fero Kiraly wrote: I think I have found an interesting theme about strings. ;) but the content of email dont really interest me. I actually need to get a bang when an mail with some subject is found, my pyext extension can find the emails BUt it wont send a bang (maybe bug?) look attached. thanks for any ideas fero ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD - 2] check mail with pd ?
) On Feb 10, 2014 12:34 AM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i tried many combinations of sending / routing message.. everything works besides getting bang from that.. i also trided a simple counter which works but i cant get no bang trigger from any boxes... i have only clue to recompile pyext... because i use the precompiled x64 version from g~ 's site. it is working for you? On Feb 10, 2014 12:09 AM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: Did you try [pyext gmail.box] | [t b f] | | [bng] [nbx\ ? Martin On 2014-02-09 17:19, Fero Kiraly wrote: I think I have found an interesting theme about strings. ;) but the content of email dont really interest me. I actually need to get a bang when an mail with some subject is found, my pyext extension can find the emails BUt it wont send a bang (maybe bug?) look attached. thanks for any ideas fero ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Is open source better?
I'm giving a presentation this week. In a way, it's a counter argument to a recent presentation on Max/MSP. One of the things that I want to highlight is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points of open source being open source. Concrete examples of PD's open sourceness trumping proprietary technologies? Thanks, Pall -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
What App Pall? Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pall Thayer [pallt...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 7:53 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] Is open source better? I'm giving a presentation this week. In a way, it's a counter argument to a recent presentation on Max/MSP. One of the things that I want to highlight is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points of open source being open source. Concrete examples of PD's open sourceness trumping proprietary technologies? Thanks, Pall -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
On 10/02/14 11:53, Pall Thayer wrote: I'm giving a presentation this week. In a way, it's a counter argument to a recent presentation on Max/MSP. One of the things that I want to highlight is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points of open source being open source. Concrete examples of PD's open sourceness trumping proprietary technologies? IOs is an odd choice for talking about open source when the only way to install such an app in a device (without jailbreaking it or paying the developer tithe) is by licensing the binary closed source (on their terms) to Apple to distribute via their platform-monopoly app store, which will not distribute the sources or GPL or LGPL apps? Certainly licenses such as libpd's BSD like one do allow reuse of the code in any app, open source or otherwise, but then is that use still open source??? Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
This is where things enter into the odd world of academia. In all honesty, I think our application for the particular grant that was available was an outlier. The grant came with caveats. Projects were to target technology that would likely be used by faculty and students and the resulting work (publications or, in our case, software) would be released under open licenses. As far as I could tell, ours was the only project that was producing actual software. We were able to pay the Apple Dev fee for one year from our funds but our application wasn't ready for distribution within that time so we never submitted it to the app store and have released the source code instead. We were never big fans of distributing it through the app store anyway. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/02/14 11:53, Pall Thayer wrote: I'm giving a presentation this week. In a way, it's a counter argument to a recent presentation on Max/MSP. One of the things that I want to highlight is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points of open source being open source. Concrete examples of PD's open sourceness trumping proprietary technologies? IOs is an odd choice for talking about open source when the only way to install such an app in a device (without jailbreaking it or paying the developer tithe) is by licensing the binary closed source (on their terms) to Apple to distribute via their platform-monopoly app store, which will not distribute the sources or GPL or LGPL apps? Certainly licenses such as libpd's BSD like one do allow reuse of the code in any app, open source or otherwise, but then is that use still open source??? Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
On 10/02/14 13:36, Pall Thayer wrote: This is where things enter into the odd world of academia. In all honesty, I think our application for the particular grant that was available was an outlier. The grant came with caveats. Projects were to target technology that would likely be used by faculty and students and the resulting work (publications or, in our case, software) would be released under open licenses. As far as I could tell, ours was the only project that was producing actual software. We were able to pay the Apple Dev fee for one year from our funds but our application wasn't ready for distribution within that time so we never submitted it to the app store and have released the source code instead. We were never big fans of distributing it through the app store anyway. Well I guess the target platform is jail-broken Apples then. Re academia ... I spent the last few years studying in an Australian university, maths and computing ... the students were a reasonable mix of linux, mac and windows users, not sure about the android/iOS split, while the staff and teaching had a somewhat stronger emphasis on linux and open source than the students. Matlab was the main exception to this. As a target platform android certainly has a much bigger user base worldwide than jail-broken iOS, though the apples may be much better for some audio uses. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
https://github.com/pallthayer/gesturalmusic On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out there. It can be ported to any platform if people want. More than anything, it was a proof-of-concept project. If it bothers you that this was developed as an IOS app then, by all means, take it and turn it into an Android app. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/02/14 13:36, Pall Thayer wrote: This is where things enter into the odd world of academia. In all honesty, I think our application for the particular grant that was available was an outlier. The grant came with caveats. Projects were to target technology that would likely be used by faculty and students and the resulting work (publications or, in our case, software) would be released under open licenses. As far as I could tell, ours was the only project that was producing actual software. We were able to pay the Apple Dev fee for one year from our funds but our application wasn't ready for distribution within that time so we never submitted it to the app store and have released the source code instead. We were never big fans of distributing it through the app store anyway. Well I guess the target platform is jail-broken Apples then. Re academia ... I spent the last few years studying in an Australian university, maths and computing ... the students were a reasonable mix of linux, mac and windows users, not sure about the android/iOS split, while the staff and teaching had a somewhat stronger emphasis on linux and open source than the students. Matlab was the main exception to this. As a target platform android certainly has a much bigger user base worldwide than jail-broken iOS, though the apples may be much better for some audio uses. Simon -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out there. It can be ported to any platform if people want. More than anything, it was a proof-of-concept project. If it bothers you that this was developed as an IOS app then, by all means, take it and turn it into an Android app. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/02/14 13:36, Pall Thayer wrote: This is where things enter into the odd world of academia. In all honesty, I think our application for the particular grant that was available was an outlier. The grant came with caveats. Projects were to target technology that would likely be used by faculty and students and the resulting work (publications or, in our case, software) would be released under open licenses. As far as I could tell, ours was the only project that was producing actual software. We were able to pay the Apple Dev fee for one year from our funds but our application wasn't ready for distribution within that time so we never submitted it to the app store and have released the source code instead. We were never big fans of distributing it through the app store anyway. Well I guess the target platform is jail-broken Apples then. Re academia ... I spent the last few years studying in an Australian university, maths and computing ... the students were a reasonable mix of linux, mac and windows users, not sure about the android/iOS split, while the staff and teaching had a somewhat stronger emphasis on linux and open source than the students. Matlab was the main exception to this. As a target platform android certainly has a much bigger user base worldwide than jail-broken iOS, though the apples may be much better for some audio uses. Simon -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
On 10/02/14 14:45, Pall Thayer wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out there. It can be ported to any platform if people want. More than anything, it was a proof-of-concept project. If it bothers you that this was developed as an IOS app then, by all means, take it and turn it into an Android app. No, it doesn't bother me (and if it is BSD licensed or similar then any enterprising person with a developer account could reasonably make it available for a dollar or so to the rest of the apple user base, and split the revenue with Apple, so it isn't really restricted to jail-broken devices). Apple is a good platform for lots of audio, I've used it a lot in the past. I was more interested in the Apple-centric academic world your choice implied, and the contrast to the situation here. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
Interesting points. I posted it to github as GPL. It probably doesn't conform to true GPL though as I didn't put that in all of the source files. Truth is, I really don't care. If Apple requires a BSD license, that never would have happened anyway. But this is all getting far away from my original question. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/02/14 14:45, Pall Thayer wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out there. It can be ported to any platform if people want. More than anything, it was a proof-of-concept project. If it bothers you that this was developed as an IOS app then, by all means, take it and turn it into an Android app. No, it doesn't bother me (and if it is BSD licensed or similar then any enterprising person with a developer account could reasonably make it available for a dollar or so to the rest of the apple user base, and split the revenue with Apple, so it isn't really restricted to jail-broken devices). Apple is a good platform for lots of audio, I've used it a lot in the past. I was more interested in the Apple-centric academic world your choice implied, and the contrast to the situation here. Simon -- * Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org * ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
On 10/02/14 14:46, Pall Thayer wrote: https://github.com/pallthayer/gesturalmusic It's GPL, so no enterprising re-distribution allowed. I'll give it a try if I get time with an iOS device. Thanks, Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD - 2] check mail with pd ?
On 2014-02-09 18:39, Fero Kiraly wrote: ) On Feb 10, 2014 12:34 AM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com mailto:fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i tried many combinations of sending / routing message.. everything works besides getting bang from that.. i also trided a simple counter which works but i cant get no bang trigger from any boxes... i have only clue to recompile pyext... because i use the precompiled x64 version from g~ 's site. it is working for you? No I have never been able to get [pyext] to compile. I would usually put a [print] on the output to see what it really is outputting and go from there. Martin On Feb 10, 2014 12:09 AM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca mailto:martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: Did you try [pyext gmail.box] | [t b f] | | [bng] [nbx\ ? Martin On 2014-02-09 17:19, Fero Kiraly wrote: I think I have found an interesting theme about strings. ;) but the content of email dont really interest me. I actually need to get a bang when an mail with some subject is found, my pyext extension can find the emails BUt it wont send a bang (maybe bug?) look attached. thanks for any ideas fero ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] LyonPotpourri 3.0 and 64-bit Pd
As a convenience for Pd users working with Pd compiled for 64-bits, I have provided compatible code for LyonPotpourri 3.0, which may be downloaded here: http://disis.music.vt.edu/eric/LyonSoftware/Pd/LyonPotpourri/ Users will need to build the externals themselves (typically by typing make), which should be a painless process on Linux and Mac. Cheers, Eric ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is open source better?
On 10/02/14 11:53, Pall Thayer wrote: is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points of open source being open source. Concrete examples of PD's open sourceness trumping proprietary technologies? Well before libpd there was a port to Sony's gaming platform, and the audio engine was used for at least a game or two. Mark Danks of GEM fame ended up with a job at sony, the port was apparently available to sony partners. It was pd, but the port was not open source, so no-one outside got any access to it. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-11/056300.html Don't quite know where that fits as an example of the advantages of open source code, and since it became closed in the process there wasn't much trumping going on and hasn't been heard of since. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list