[PD] pd-extended and elementary OS

2013-08-14 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hi list!

Today I have a new issue... I'm trying to install pd-extended via apt-get
install like we have in http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian .

But when I do apt-get update I have:
Err http://apt.puredata.info luna/main Sources

  404  Not Found
Err http://apt.puredata.info luna/main i386 Packages

  404  Not Found

I'm using Elementary OS and this distro are released about 2 days and it's
based in ubuntu 12.04 . Pd-extended should work well in it...

Regards

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Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-31 Thread Esteban Viveros
HUehuehuehuehue... "proletariat pc"

Husk, you know something about using generic ubuntu images on macs? They
can work properly?


2013/5/31 Husk 00 

> Hi Alexander,
> in order to in stall gnu/linux (whatever distro) on Mac you first need to
> install refit (because the Mac bios)
> http://refit.sourceforge.net/
>
> Once you do that you can run linux installation process from USB like
> proletariat pc.
> cheers
> husk
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
>> Hum... :/
>>
>> Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
>>
>> All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems
>> some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
>>
>> First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
>>
>> If it's possible, you can try this tutorial:
>> http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
>>
>> Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>
>>> > it says "no bootable device - press any key"
>>>
>>> KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue.
>>> Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for
>>> dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>
>>>> hmm, no luck
>>>>
>>>> well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a
>>>> installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got
>>>> parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the
>>>> software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive,
>>>> but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it
>>>> didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and
>>>> boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the
>>>> DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device -
>>>> press any key"
>>>>
>>>> This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for
>>>> it. Maybe some other distribution?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>
>>>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>>>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances
>>>>>>>>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency
>>>>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>&g

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-31 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac (
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)

I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to
run this Ubuntu and do all the test.

If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me
and we can try something together..


2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros 

> Hum... :/
>
> Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
>
> All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems
> some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
>
> First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
>
> If it's possible, you can try this tutorial:
> http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
>
> Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>
>> > it says "no bootable device - press any key"
>>
>> KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue.
>> Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for
>> dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>
>>> hmm, no luck
>>>
>>> well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a
>>> installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got
>>> parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the
>>> software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive,
>>> but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it
>>> didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and
>>> boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the
>>> DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device -
>>> press any key"
>>>
>>> This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for
>>> it. Maybe some other distribution?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>
>>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>>
>>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances
>>>>>>>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency
>>>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All these distros use KX

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-31 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hum... :/

Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.

All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some
macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.

First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro

If it's possible, you can try this tutorial:
http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html

Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.




2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres 

> > it says "no bootable device - press any key"
>
> KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue.
> Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for
> dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
>
> thanks
>
>
> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>
>> hmm, no luck
>>
>> well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a
>> installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got
>> parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the
>> software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive,
>> but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it
>> didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and
>> boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the
>> DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device -
>> press any key"
>>
>> This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it.
>> Maybe some other distribution?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>
>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>
>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>
>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>
>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>
>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>
>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>
>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances
>>>>>>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency
>>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>>>>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jac

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-30 Thread Esteban Viveros
Looking for dual booting in Macs I found that:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html

Maybe if you have problems with wireless:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011756

Good Luck!


2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 

> To install pd-extended, you need run the command: sudo apt-get install
> pd-extended
>
>
>
> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>
>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>
>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>
>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>
>>> To install ardour:
>>>
>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>
>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>
>>> 3) it is!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>
>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances
>>>>>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency
>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>>>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in
>>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same
>>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on
>>>>>>>> windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with
>>>>>>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, is th

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-30 Thread Esteban Viveros
To install pd-extended, you need run the command: sudo apt-get install
pd-extended



2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 

> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>
>
>
>
> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>
>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>
>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>
>> To install ardour:
>>
>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>
>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>
>> 3) it is!
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>
>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you
>>>>> will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>>
>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in
>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same
>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on
>>>>>>> windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with
>>>>>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to
>>>>>>>> tweak
>>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly
>>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now.
>>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended
>>>

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-30 Thread Esteban Viveros
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)




2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 

> Sorry... Reply all...
>
> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
> tecnology workshops I do.
>
> To install ardour:
>
> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>
> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>
> 3) it is!
>
>
> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>
>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using
>> a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I
>> don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>>
>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you
>>>> will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
>>>>
>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>
>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>
>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>
>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>>
>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in
>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same machine
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on
>>>>>> windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with
>>>>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to
>>>>>>> tweak
>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly
>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although
>>>>>> I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular
>>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use macs 

Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

2013-05-30 Thread Esteban Viveros
Sorry... Reply all...

Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
tecnology workshops I do.

To install ardour:

1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.

2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3

3) it is!


2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 

> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using
> a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I
> don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>
> cheers
>
> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros 
>>
>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you
>>> will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
>>>
>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese.
>>> You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor  DAW and
>>> Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>
>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>
>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>
>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres 
>>>
>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>
>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful
>>>> than soundflower...
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton 
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in
>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same machine
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on
>>>>> windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with
>>>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to
>>>>>> tweak
>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly
>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although
>>>>> I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development is
>>>>> mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular
>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being next
>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one")
>>>>>> linux
>>>>>> distribution in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at least)
>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well on
>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot

Re: [PD] Quick Reference Sheet for Pd-extended

2013-04-29 Thread Esteban Viveros
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escreveu:

> I'd love to see a new section with externals:
> for example a line of description for each library and the main objects
> inside it.
>
> best
>
> n
>
> Le 29/04/13 09:56, Abel Jérôme a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I love to use this pdf for my courses :http://puredata.info/docs/**
>> manuals/pdrefcards <http://puredata.info/docs/manuals/pdrefcards>
>> I think it is useful to show list of objects for newbies, where they can
>> browse, read descriptions.
>>
>> I've made one in french for Pd-extended
>> http://jeromeabel.net/files/**code/pd/docs/objets-pd-**extended.odg<http://jeromeabel.net/files/code/pd/docs/objets-pd-extended.odg>
>> http://jeromeabel.net/files/**code/pd/docs/objets-pd-**extended.pdf<http://jeromeabel.net/files/code/pd/docs/objets-pd-extended.pdf>
>>
>> It's my selection of course, so if it seems useful and if there are some
>> feedbacks we could made one better, in french and english.
>> And why not put it on the website ?
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-03-14 Thread Esteban Viveros
People I made a very stupid mistake..! :/ hehehehehe

Jack don't need a new pd-extended compilation to work together.
Jack run over asio driver in windows. All software with asio support
can see jackrouter in asio on driver settings.

I have tested it with pd-extended 0.43.4 windows version downloaded
today 14/03/2013 and Live 8 and Live 9.

The unique specificity is that in Live 8, we need to run all in
administrator
mode, jack and pd-extended.

ps.: in last pd-extended 0.43.4 version at this moment I can't see any
problem has as happening in wild compilation.


2013/2/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> The 0.44.0 nightly builds include Jack for Windows support, if you want to
> try.
>
> .hc
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> The 0.44 are working with jack? I can test it..(?)
>
>
> 2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki.
>>  I
>> think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little
>> problems.  And through contributions like yours, it will get better.
>>
>> For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44,
>> so the
>> nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow:
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..
>> >
>> > When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
>> > can start itself in administrator mode...
>> >
>> > The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
>> > can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.
>> >
>> > Is the best thing delete the wiki??
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 
>> >
>> >> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
>> >>
>> >> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
>> >>
>> >> Ready to changes..! ;)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info
>> there?
>> >>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to
>> set it
>> >>> up
>> >>> themselves.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://puredata.info/docs/
>> >>>
>> >>> .hc
>> >>>
>> >>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>>> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
>> >>>> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and
>> relate
>> >>> if
>> >>>> that work or you too..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You need:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> pd-extended jack built:
>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>> >>>> Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
>> >>> http://jackaudio.org/download
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Read this:
>> >>>> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>> >>>> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out,
>> but
>> >>> you
>> >>>> can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to
>> change
>> >>>> UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64,
>> and it
>> >>>> solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>> >>>> To change UAC settings (disabling):
>> >>>> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hope it's works!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2013/1/28 batinste 
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make
>> it
>> >>>>> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's sound very nic

Re: [PD] GUI abstraction issues

2013-02-19 Thread Esteban Viveros
IOhannes, you are right... I try open one more time testing-abstration
(sorry for the error..) in windows that time.
And outlet is showned in autotips, the only problem it's a little hard to
hit the outlet area...

If can be fixed the problem of rectangle GOP and IOlets always at the top,
I'm a very happy pd-user! ;)

I can suggest either a "little bigger" area of autotips response to iolets.


2013/2/18 Jonathan Wilkes 

> >________
> > From: Esteban Viveros 
> >To: Roman Haefeli 
> >Cc: PD-list list 
> >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:18 AM
> >Subject: Re: [PD] GUI abstraction issues
> >
> >
> >Well I try the IOhannes sugestion, and autotips don't work correctly with
> my abstraction... :/
> >
> >
> >I tried to create another example (testing-abstration), and now only the
> inlet are working with autotips feature... In pd-l2ork everything works
> fine.
>
>
> Indeed it doesn't.  It looks like when the abstraction is GOP, it
> registers all the
> xlet #s as "-1", and it doesn't detect the bounding box of the object.
> (The latter
> because I'm looking for the text tag, which a gop box doesn't have.)
>
> I imagine Ivica's works because he's checking for tooltips on the c-side,
> and I'm
> checking on the tcl side.
>
> Pd-l2ork: Check whether there's an object or inlet under current mouse
> position. If
> there is, look for its tooltip text in the help patch, then draw the
> tooltip.
>
> Pd-ext: Trigger an event when the mouse hovers over an object or inlet
> that is
> _visible_ on the canvas.  Look for the tooltip text in the help patch,
> then draw the
> tooltip.
>
> Pd-l2ork's approach is more robust-- for example, it's easier for him to
> enlarge the area
> that will register an xlet tooltip.  Pd-extended's currently has what I
> think is the "proper"
> behavior, though-- you only show tooltips for objects that are visible to
> the user.  If the
> patch author covers up an object with a [cnv], he/she is actively hiding
> that object, and
> it shouldn't register a tooltip.  It's bad UI design to show a tooltip
> when the user can't see
> the thing it refers to.
>
> Anyway, I'll investigate and see if I can come up with a fix for the
> testing-abstration (sic)
> situation.  But if you're putting [cnv] objects on top of xlets then they
> shouldn't respond to
> tooltips.  That problem should be fixed at the source: xlets and object
> rectangle should
> always be at the top of the stacking order.  (I guess there could also be
> an option for
> hiding xlets or the box, but that doesn't seem like a good idea for visual
> dataflow.)
>
>
> -Jonathan
>



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Re: [PD] GUI abstraction issues

2013-02-18 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yep.. If I put small cnv, I destroy the my GOP visual.. :(   (but if I
don't have any other option, I will to do that)

I tried the 'micro cnv' to sinalize the inlets and outlets.. It's attached.
But I can't see the information of these xlets in autotips mode...

Only to kill my curiosity, what the meaning of GOP abreviation?



2013/2/18 Roman Haefeli 

> On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 14:19 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> > On 2013-02-18 13:36, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > > 2013/2/18 IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> > >> yes it is.
> > >
> > > You know someway to solve that issue??
> >
> > currently the only way (i know of) is to make your [cnv] smal enough
> > so that it doesn't hide the iolets.
> >
> > (or trust the user that they can connect without actually _seeing_ the
> > iolets)
>
> A third option is to create small black [cnv] objects. Place them to
> locations of the inlets and outlets of your GOP abstraction. Of course,
> this works only if your abstraction has a fixed number of xlets.
>
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Re: [PD] GUI abstraction issues

2013-02-18 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/18 IOhannes m zmoelnig 
>yes it is.

 You know someway to solve that issue??

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> > parents is below of the canvas object,
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Re: [PD] GUI abstraction issues

2013-02-17 Thread Esteban Viveros
Very helpful!!

Thanks!


2013/2/17 Jonathan Wilkes 

> >
> > From: Esteban Viveros 
> >To: PD-list list 
> >Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:50 PM
> >Subject: [PD] GUI abstraction issues
> >
> >
> >Hi list,
> >
> >
> >I'm initiating to do gui abstractions, and I have two issues in
> pd-extended.
> >
> >
> >First: When I use the inlet object, can I name it? This is because I
> would like to have the name inlet in "Autotips" mode. This in pd-extended
> and l2ork.
>
>
> Hi Esteban,
>  If your abstraction is named "foo.pd", then make a help patch named
> "foo-help.pd"
> and put a [pd META] subpatch in it.  Inside the subpatch, make a 
> comment
> with this text:
> INLET_0 Put your inlet name here
>
> That will display "Put your inlet name here" when you hover over the
> leftmost inlet
> in "Autotips" mode.  (You can address the other inlets with INLET_1,
> INLET_2, etc.,
> as well as OUTLET_0, etc.)
>
>
> I could have made it a lot easier by searching the abstraction itself for
> the info to
> display in the tip, but I _really_ want to discourage the practice of
> using the
> abstraction as its own documentation since that excludes the possibility
> for an
> example patch (which IMO is the most important part of the help patch).
>
>
> You can find more info on the pd META stuff in
> doc/5.reference/all_about_pd_META.pd
> or just use Help->Search for "all about pd META"
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
> >
> >
> >Second: In pd-extended .43.4, when I try to use a canvas with graph on
> parents, I can't see the inlets and outlets.. Is as if graph on parents is
> below of the canvas object, I'm sending an objects to explain better this
> issue.
> >
> >
> >Thanks..
> >
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[PD] GUI abstraction issues

2013-02-17 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hi list,

I'm initiating to do gui abstractions, and I have two issues in pd-extended.

First: When I use the inlet object, can I name it? This is because I would
like to have the name inlet in "Autotips" mode. This in pd-extended and
l2ork.

Second: In pd-extended .43.4, when I try to use a canvas with graph on
parents, I can't see the inlets and outlets.. Is as if graph on parents is
below of the canvas object, I'm sending an objects to explain better this
issue.

Thanks..

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Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yes! Was only this... ;)  Thanks a lot!

That's the end of carousel of pd installations in my ubuntu..

Pd-extended and Pd-L2ork like the end of musical I see today "Les
Misérables" huehuehuehuehue

Sorry for Jokes...


2013/2/5 Ivica Bukvic 

> You need tkpng package as indicated on the top of the website.
>
> sudo apt-get install tkpng
> On Feb 5, 2013 5:44 PM, "Esteban Viveros"  wrote:
>
>> I'm in Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS amd64
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/5 Esteban Viveros 
>>
>>> Ivica.. I don't have sucess...
>>>
>>> I have only a little window of pd-l2ork with nothing..
>>>
>>> I try for terminal and I have this:
>>> esteban@Tattoine:~/pd-l2ork-x86_64-20130126$ pd-l2ork
>>> error in file /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk: can't find package
>>> tkpng
>>> while executing
>>> "package require tkpng"
>>> (file "/usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk" line 583)
>>> tcl: /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk: can't open script
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/2/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>>
>>>>
>>>> FYI, gem is no longer using svn, it switched to git. So Gem from SVN is
>>>> out of
>>>> date, unless its from the pd-extended release branch, in which case its
>>>> the
>>>> last release version rather than the development version.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On 02/05/2013 04:52 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>>>> > It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working.
>>>> Can
>>>> > you be more specific?
>>>> > On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, "Charles Goyard"  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> No, it conflics with pd-extended. (just tried).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> btw it's awesome. Too bad Gem seems to work badly, or is it just me ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>>>> >>> Will it install in/usr/local, though, to prevent collision between
>>>> >>> pd-extended and pd-l2ork?
>>>> >>
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Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Esteban Viveros
I'm in Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS amd64


2013/2/5 Esteban Viveros 

> Ivica.. I don't have sucess...
>
> I have only a little window of pd-l2ork with nothing..
>
> I try for terminal and I have this:
> esteban@Tattoine:~/pd-l2ork-x86_64-20130126$ pd-l2ork
> error in file /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk: can't find package tkpng
> while executing
> "package require tkpng"
> (file "/usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk" line 583)
> tcl: /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk: can't open script
>
>
>
> 2013/2/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> FYI, gem is no longer using svn, it switched to git. So Gem from SVN is
>> out of
>> date, unless its from the pd-extended release branch, in which case its
>> the
>> last release version rather than the development version.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 02/05/2013 04:52 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
>> > It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can
>> > you be more specific?
>> > On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, "Charles Goyard"  wrote:
>> >
>> >> No, it conflics with pd-extended. (just tried).
>> >>
>> >> btw it's awesome. Too bad Gem seems to work badly, or is it just me ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ivica Bukvic wrote:
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Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-05 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ivica.. I don't have sucess...

I have only a little window of pd-l2ork with nothing..

I try for terminal and I have this:
esteban@Tattoine:~/pd-l2ork-x86_64-20130126$ pd-l2ork
error in file /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk: can't find package tkpng
while executing
"package require tkpng"
(file "/usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk" line 583)
tcl: /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/bin/pd.tk: can't open script



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>
> FYI, gem is no longer using svn, it switched to git. So Gem from SVN is
> out of
> date, unless its from the pd-extended release branch, in which case its the
> last release version rather than the development version.
>
> .hc
>
> On 02/05/2013 04:52 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> > It is the latest Gem from svn, so I am not sure what is not working. Can
> > you be more specific?
> > On Feb 5, 2013 4:37 PM, "Charles Goyard"  wrote:
> >
> >> No, it conflics with pd-extended. (just tried).
> >>
> >> btw it's awesome. Too bad Gem seems to work badly, or is it just me ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> >>> Will it install in/usr/local, though, to prevent collision between
> >>> pd-extended and pd-l2ork?
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[PD] Automatized toggle control - patch

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hello,

Some time I'm trying to finish one patch, but I can't...

The patch consist in 4 oscilators (red-cosenoidal , green-square ,
blue-triangle , pink-saw), in orange I have one Recorder (Gravador) and the
output (Saida).

All it's razonable working except the toggles on/off control (liga/desl).
The idea is:

1) Turning on Saida (liga/desl) then turn on oscilators (liga/desl)
and
2) Turning on any oscilator (liga/desl) then turn on Saida (liga/desl)

when
3) Turn off Saída (liga/desl) then turn off all oscilator (liga/del)
4) Turn off any oscilator then nothing to do

The 1) and 3) are implemented, but when I try to implement 2) something
bizarre happend and I have oscilator 4 (pink) on forever with Saida on
forever too.

I attached the patch for appreciations..

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Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
Sorry to bring the dead... But I can install at this moment pd-l2ork and
pd-extended in the same OS (ubuntu 12.04) if it is possible how can I do
that exactly?


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> pd-extended should use puredata-utils, but it doesn't yet.  It will in the
> next release.  Nothing requires puredata-utils, its optional.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/22/2013 11:16 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> > AFAIK I use pd-l2ork exclusively, not pd. I f you find it anywhere that
> I'm
> > not using that please let me know so I can fix it.
> >
> > I need to check whether pdsend/receive is indeed identical before making
> > any calls on that matter. Even then if one has to uninstall pd-utils due
> to
> > conflict with pd-L2ork what would that mean to the rest of the install as
> > far as pd-extended is concerned? Would it still work, or is pd-utils a
> > dependency (as far as I can tell it should be a dependency because
> > otherwise pd wouldn't work without it)?
> > On Jan 22, 2013 10:46 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig"  wrote:
> >
> > On 2013-01-22 16:30, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Pd-l2ork indeed has its own folder (including pd-l2ork-externals in
> >>>> home folder and settings file). The conflict is in the /usr/bin/
> >>>> folder with binaries that share the same name but not necessarily
> >>>> code-base (I think pdsend/pdreceive and something else,
> >>>> IIRC--cannot remember off top my head).
> >
> > since i trust that you haven't done anything to pdsend/pdreceive, i
> > guess it is save to simple use the debian-package "puredata-utils"
> > instead of providing your own.
> > alternatively, you can make your package conflict with
> > "puredata-utils", in order to avoid the conflict.
> >
> > the other thing that comes to my mind is obviously "pd" itself.
> > i guess you are using "pd-l2ork" as binary name, so this wouldn't be a
> > problem.
> > (but if indeed you do use "pd" as the binary name, i suggest to switch
> > to "pd-l2ork" instead and eventually provide an alternative diversion
> > from pd to pd-l2ork, using the "update-alternatives" mechanism)
> >
> > fgamsdr
> > IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hahahahaha... Yeah.. Here too.. To hot!!!


2013/2/4 Simon Wise 

> On 04/02/13 14:09, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>
>>
>>
>can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
>>>>   select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max
>>>> picture
>>>>   reference link:
>>>>
>>>
>>> look at [pd edit] inside one of the helps for sliders .. [vslider-help]
>>> will do
>>> ... you can set the range of ordinary pd sliders via a message
>>>
>>
>> But the point is probably to get visual feedback for a range between two
>> values, bounded within a min and max value.  For that to work the
>> indicator
>> tick must be expandable while staying within the gui border.  (Well, it
>> does
>> sometimes expand to 4 pixels wide right in the middle but that's a bug.)
>>
>
> sure, the tick is not adjustable and if you want some visual feedback
> [cnv] will do the job ... here's another example, a bit more elaborate and
> all vanilla ... its mid summer here, way too hot for anything serious!
>
>
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/4 colet.patrice 

> Hello, I dont know what is it in max but looks like something you can find
> in mapping objets library...
>
> May I ask if you switched from max to pd, and then why you did it?
>
>
I'm looking for like Michael Noble say:

> http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-4678-range-sliders
>

And I'm learning pd because two things (perhaps). I have pd classes in
university, and I think is well have knowledge about this because pd are
very flexible. At this point you can think, but max are very flexible too,
and it more polished which pd, and I think, yes, but pd is open source, and
open source is beautifull! hehehehehe

I think a lot in music education, and stuff like pdlib for android let me
think all kind of possibilities of educational stuff can be done with this
tools, for this things open source is beatifull. All mode how it is created
is beatifull too, the will to create, this make art, and learn all this is
education. ;)

Cheers


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> Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?
>
> No, but I use vrslider/hrslider from mmb. You can get them here :
>
> https://github.com/dotmmb/mmb
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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/4 Jonathan Wilkes 

> >
> > From: Scott R. Looney 
> >To: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >Cc: pd-list 
> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:11 PM
> >Subject: Re: [PD] Range Slider Object
> >
> >
> >well i'm pretty sure as a Max user i think he means an object in which
> you can set a boundary range within the slider. sort of like being able to
> select a range of a particular sample graphically. heres the max picture
> reference link:
> >
> >
> >http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/max-ref/images/rslider.png
> >
>
> Interesting.  I took a quick stab at it.  (Attached.)
>
>
> Of course this falls short because the slider fails
> to obey the limits of the gui rectangle.  Of course
> if you don't need the visual feedback it's much
> easier.
>
>
:D  Your slider demo are very interesting!! It doesn't be I'm thinking yet,
but I like a lot... Manly because I like to see how this things works... I
think more in set the range with one mouse click.


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Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/2/4 michael noble 

>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
>> Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?
>
>
> Something like these?
>
> http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-4678-range-sliders
>
>
>  Yes something like this... But I would like to have a native solution..
If it's exist.. But I like a lot of this solution.. It's a shame that
object don't work well in pd-l2ork too... pdl2ork is to well to design gui
patches..


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-02-03 Thread Esteban Viveros
The 0.44 are working with jack? I can test it..(?)


2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> That's a bummer, but I don't think this story is over, so leave the wiki.
>  I
> think that Jack on Windows is relatively new, so its going to have little
> problems.  And through contributions like yours, it will get better.
>
> For example, I included the jack for windows stuff in pd-extended 0.44, so
> the
> nightly builds should include it starting tomorrow:
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-02-04/
>
> .hc
>
> On 02/03/2013 07:20 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..
> >
> > When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
> > can start itself in administrator mode...
> >
> > The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
> > can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.
> >
> > Is the best thing delete the wiki??
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 
> >
> >> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
> >>
> >> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
> >>
> >> Ready to changes..! ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info
> there?
> >>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set
> it
> >>> up
> >>> themselves.
> >>>
> >>> http://puredata.info/docs/
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> >>>> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate
> >>> if
> >>>> that work or you too..
> >>>>
> >>>> You need:
> >>>>
> >>>> pd-extended jack built:
> >>>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> >>>> Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> >>> http://jackaudio.org/download
> >>>>
> >>>> Read this:
> >>>> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> >>>> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> >>> you
> >>>> can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >>>>
> >>>> After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to
> change
> >>>> UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and
> it
> >>>> solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> >>>> To change UAC settings (disabling):
> >>>> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope it's works!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >>>>
> >>>>>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make
> it
> >>>>> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's sound very nice!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> >>> will
> >>>>> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> >>>>> google research .. Ok?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
> >>> pdvst
> >>>>>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
> >>> with the
> >>>>>

Re: [PD] Range Slider Object

2013-02-03 Thread Esteban Viveros
Sorry...

 About 4:25 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYO_KB8J94 we
have a rslider...

 I'm looking for a object gui like slider wich set a lowest and highest
ranges to some activity to be defined afterward..

 For example... I would like to set the lowest and the highest possible
frequency in a random system.


2013/2/3 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You'll have to explain what rslider does since most people here don't use
> Max
>
> .hc
>
> On 02/03/2013 06:49 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Have pd-extended .43.4 a equivalent to max/msp rslider object?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-02-03 Thread Esteban Viveros
ok... I yeld...  That solution don't work well yet..

When I disable UAC settings in Windows the only thing happend is the app
can start itself in administrator mode...

The problem is when I run pd in administrator mode, it are bugged... It
can't load objects correctly like a video I send previously.

Is the best thing delete the wiki??


2013/1/28 Esteban Viveros 

> Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8
>
> Ready to changes..! ;)
>
>
> 2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
>> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
>> up
>> themselves.
>>
>> http://puredata.info/docs/
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
>> > compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate
>> if
>> > that work or you too..
>> >
>> > You need:
>> >
>> > pd-extended jack built:
>> > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
>> > Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
>> http://jackaudio.org/download
>> >
>> > Read this:
>> > To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
>> > Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
>> you
>> > can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>> >
>> > After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
>> > UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
>> > solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
>> > To change UAC settings (disabling):
>> > http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>> >
>> > Hope it's works!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/28 batinste 
>> >
>> >>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
>> >> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's sound very nice!
>> >>
>> >>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
>> will
>> >> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>> >>
>> >>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
>> >> google research .. Ok?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>
>> >>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
>> pdvst
>> >>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
>> with the
>> >>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live)
>> it
>> >>> should be ok.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with
>> a
>> >>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>> >>>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
>> sources
>> >>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
>> interested into
>> >>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>> >>>
>> >>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
>> VSTs.
>> >>>  But
>> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
>> them,
>> >>> I'm up
>> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
>> best
>> >>> thing
>> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
>> pd~
>> >>>
>> >>> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ok.. Now we have some information on wiki page..

http://puredata.info/docs/PdExtended0434JackAbletonLive8

Ready to changes..! ;)


2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
> up
> themselves.
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> > compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> > that work or you too..
> >
> > You need:
> >
> > pd-extended jack built:
> > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> > Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> http://jackaudio.org/download
> >
> > Read this:
> > To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> > Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> you
> > can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >
> > After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> > UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> > solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> > To change UAC settings (disabling):
> > http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >
> > Hope it's works!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >
> >>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> >> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>
> >> That's sound very nice!
> >>
> >>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> will
> >> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>
> >>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> >> google research .. Ok?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>>>
> >>>>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>>>
> >>>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
> >>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with
> the
> >>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
> >>> should be ok.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
> >>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
> >>>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> sources
> >>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested
> into
> >>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> VSTs.
> >>>  But
> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
> >>> I'm up
> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> best
> >>> thing
> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> pd~
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ohh!! Bitwig!! About 2 years I dream with this software!!


2013/1/28 Max 

> idea: lobby bitwig to put Pd inside. it already supports jack
> http://www.bitwig.com/faqs.html
>
> Am 28.01.2013 um 19:50 schrieb batinste :
>
> > Oh, i've been using Pd AND Live together for some time now, it works
> quite ok with the 42.5 (AFAIR). I understand that i shouldn't update Pd to
> the most recent one if i want my setup to keep on working :/
> >
> > I meant Pd IN Live, aka pdvst, would be cool if it were effortless (no
> wild build for starters, recent version)
> >
> > On 28/01/2013 18:56, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and
> relate if that work or you too..
> >>
> >> You need:
> >>
> >> pd-extended jack built:
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> >> Jack Audio: Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9 in http://jackaudio.org/download
> >>
> >> Read this:
> >> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> >> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> you can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >>
> >> After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to
> change UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64,
> and it solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> >> To change UAC settings (disabling):
> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >>
> >> Hope it's works!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >> pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> That's sound very nice!
> >>>
> >>> I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>>
> >>> I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> google research .. Ok?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>> On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>> >
> >>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>> >
> >>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the
> pdvst folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along
> with the vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton
> Live) it should be ok.
> >>> >
> >>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with
> a recent pd version, but no success yet.
> >>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> sources for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
> interested into using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>> I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> VSTs.  But
> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include
> them, I'm up
> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> best thing
> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> pd~
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yeah.. I understand now.. And I  agree.

This happend because pd-extended 0.43.4 version don't have jack support
included. But it can change in 0.44 version. But at this moment, that's
working for me.

For starters a stable version working with jack I think we only have 0.42.5
version. But for adventurers.. ;)


2013/1/28 batinste 

>  Oh, i've been using Pd AND Live together for some time now, it works
> quite ok with the 42.5 (AFAIR). I understand that i shouldn't update Pd to
> the most recent one if i want my setup to keep on working :/
>
> I meant Pd IN Live, aka pdvst, would be cool if it were effortless (no
> wild build for starters, recent version)
>
>
> On 28/01/2013 18:56, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> that work or you too..
>
>  You need:
>
>  pd-extended jack built:
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in http://jackaudio.org/download
>
>  Read this:
> To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you
> can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
>
>  After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> To change UAC settings (disabling):
> http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
>
>  Hope it's works!
>
>
>
> 2013/1/28 batinste 
>
>>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
>> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>>
>>
>> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>> That's sound very nice!
>>
>>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
>> will be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>>
>>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
>> google research .. Ok?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>>> >
>>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>>> >
>>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
>>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
>>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
>>> should be ok.
>>> >
>>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
>>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
>>> sources for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one
>>> interested into using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>>
>>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
>>> VSTs.  But
>>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
>>> I'm up
>>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
>>> thing
>>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban Viveros
Of course! I try to do that now..


2013/1/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> This is great!  Could you create a wiki page here and put the info there?
> That's an easy place for people to find it when they are trying to set it
> up
> themselves.
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/28/2013 12:56 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
> > compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
> > that work or you too..
> >
> > You need:
> >
> > pd-extended jack built:
> > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
> > Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in
> http://jackaudio.org/download
> >
> > Read this:
> > To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
> > Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but
> you
> > can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/
> >
> > After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
> > UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
> > solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
> > To change UAC settings (disabling):
> > http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm
> >
> > Hope it's works!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/28 batinste 
> >
> >>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> >> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>
> >> That's sound very nice!
> >>
> >>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It
> will
> >> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
> >>
> >>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> >> google research .. Ok?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >>>>
> >>>>> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >>>>
> >>>> ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
> >>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with
> the
> >>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
> >>> should be ok.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
> >>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
> >>>> It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended
> sources
> >>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested
> into
> >>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
> >>>
> >>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used
> VSTs.
> >>>  But
> >>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
> >>> I'm up
> >>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The
> best
> >>> thing
> >>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by
> pd~
> >>>
> >>> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban Viveros
At this moment I can use ableton live and pd with jack with a custom
compiled version of pd-extended.. You can try in your setup and relate if
that work or you too..

You need:

pd-extended jack built:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit
Jack Audio: *Mixed 64/32 bit JACK 1.9.9* in http://jackaudio.org/download

Read this:
To install Jack: http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows
Probably you need Asio4All, at now the website of asio4all is out, but you
can download it here for example: http://asio4all.softonic.com.br/

After uncompress pd-extended, install correctly jack, you need to change
UAC settings in your windows. In my case I'm using Windows 7 x64, and it
solve all the problems with Ableton Live, Jack and pd sync.
To change UAC settings (disabling):
http://www.petri.co.il/disable-uac-in-windows-7.htm

Hope it's works!



2013/1/28 batinste 

>  pd in Live... I'm drooling. Keep us posted about how well you make it
> work with a recent pd version, i'm very interested.
>
>
> On 28/01/2013 12:45, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> That's sound very nice!
>
>  I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will
> be very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)
>
>  I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future
> google research .. Ok?
>
>
> 2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>  On 01/27/2013 01:49 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
>> >
>> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
>> >
>> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
>> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
>> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
>> should be ok.
>> >
>> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
>> recent pd version, but no success yet.
>> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources
>> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into
>> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>>
>>  I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.
>>  But
>> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
>> I'm up
>> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
>> thing
>> then would be to port it to the new pluggable scheduler stuff used by pd~
>>
>> .hc
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-28 Thread Esteban Viveros
That's sound very nice!

I will try to install on Ableton pdvst again in the coming days. It will be
very good to get everything running cool place .. ;)

I will also open a new topic to better organize the topic for future google
research .. Ok?


2013/1/27 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

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> >
> >
> >> De: "Esteban Viveros" 
> >
> >> Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess.
> >
> > ah if you put the vststuff.dll into vstplugin directory, and the pdvst
> folder that contains vststuff.pd patches vststuff.pdv files along with the
> vst host executable (it should be 'Program' folder for Ableton Live) it
> should be ok.
> >
> > I've started some time ago to give a try into recompiling pdvst with a
> recent pd version, but no success yet.
> > It would be nice to have some patches to apply into pd-extended sources
> for having an actual pdvst version, but if I'm the only one interested into
> using this, it might not be worth the effort.
>
> I've never looked at those patches because I've never really used VSTs.
>  But
> post them here and I'll look at them.  If its possible to include them,
> I'm up
> for it.  I think I remember that pdvst has a custom scheduler.  The best
> thing
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-27 Thread Esteban Viveros
Perhaps... I have a FTP and in linux I only can have 2 outputs with them.
With the m-audio drivers I have 4 outputs..

Some time ago I tried to run pdvst without sucess. The matter is only put
to run pd-extended 0.43.4 with jackd in windows.. Even as I have MaxForLive
working in my windows software set... But years ago I didn't have these
softwares... And it would be great pepople with the same problems I was
have can be run pd with jackd in windows with some facilities... That can
do the people to dispend energy in learn pd and not to try put it to work...


2013/1/27 Patrice Colet 

> jackdmp has always worked with pd on windows because it has been using
> ASIO drivers, but with two channels only...
>
> also I'm still using pdvst for playing with Ableton Live on windows, if
> not in debug mode, it's rather stable, and even if it's a 0.37 pd version,
> we can do a lot of thing with, like opening sockets and send MIDI or VST
> parameters, even running vocoder patches, etc ... In other words, no need
> for jackd, no need for maxmsp in Ableton Live...
>
> Would jackd work with more than two in/out channels on windows?
>
> Colet Patrice
>
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Thomas Mayer" 
> > À: pd-list@iem.at
> > Envoyé: Dimanche 27 Janvier 2013 16:59:55
> > Objet: Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > on Windows only Jackdmp (Jackd2) is available, but the latest version
> > of
> > Pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) does not work with Jackd2, at least on
> > Debian Wheezy.
> >
> > It may be fixed, when this patch is applied
> > (
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=3582739&group_id=55736
> ),
> > because Jackd2 has removed jack_client_new () from their interface.
> >
> > I have found another issue with jackd2, because hardware ports are
> > not
> > reported with the register_port callback, at least not with the way I
> > am
> > using it in my own software (a C#/Mono replacement for QJackCTL
> > https://github.com/residuum/MonoMultiJack), but it probably is an
> > issue
> > in my code.
> >
> > Hth,
> > Thomas
> >
> > On 16.01.2013 18:58, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> > >
> > > The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to
> > > Jack..
> > >
> > > It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton
> > > live to
> > > play a little..
> > >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-25 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yep! Pierre you're right!

I change UAC settings and now I can use all set.. Jack (without
administrator privileges), Pd (without administrator) and Ableton Live
(administrator mode). I don't do a hard test but sound is working like a
video test...

The unique problem is my computer with windows 7 are completly unsafe with
that UAC settings, but that put to work this 3 apps together.

The build are in
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6TScIMkPOGJSHdwZzJVM19CQ00/edit

I think that can work in windows 7 x64, I use to built that Mixed 64/32 bit
Jack 1.9.9 disponible here: http://jackaudio.org/download

I don't have certainty if that build can be shared in that way, but we can
try! ;)


2013/1/25 Pierre-Olivier Boulant 

>  Hola Esteban,
>
> That's very good progress.
> I have my account set up as administrator and I have disabled UAC too.
> Have you tried this?
> I can try out your built if you want.
>
> Cheers
> Pierre-Olivier
>
>
>
> On 25/01/2013 09:47, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> Sorry for delay...
>
>  I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try
> particulary, pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was needed to
> try twice to open pd...
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY
>
>  More information just ask! ;)
>
>
> 2013/1/24 Julian Brooks 
>
>> HI all, hope I'm not barging in...
>>
>> I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy.  The simplest
>> solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack running beforehand.  I found just
>> running jackd (the server element) was most reliable.
>>
>> Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
>> jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 128
>> -d hw:1,0 -M -H
>>
>> Trial and error is your friend here.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig  wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe
>>>>
>>>> When I start pd, I have:
>>>> JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
>>>> JACK: server returned status 17
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>  try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
>>> (Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but
>>> people are reporting problems with that)
>>>
>>> fgmadr
>>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-25 Thread Esteban Viveros
Sorry for delay...

I do a video to exemplify the procedure I doing... In this try particulary,
pd starts in the first try... On others tries I was needed to try twice to
open pd...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ldcUNoTtoY

More information just ask! ;)


2013/1/24 Julian Brooks 

> HI all, hope I'm not barging in...
>
> I've had troubles recently with qjackctl on debian wheezy.  The simplest
> solution was, as IOhannes said, have jack running beforehand.  I found just
> running jackd (the server element) was most reliable.
>
> Mine looks like this for example (from command line):
> jackd -T -ndefault -p 128 -v -R -P 90 -v -T -d alsa -n 2 -r 44100 -p 128
> -d hw:1,0 -M -H
>
> Trial and error is your friend here.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Julian
>
>
>
>
> On 24 January 2013 07:11, IOhannes zmölnig  wrote:
>
>> On 01/24/2013 02:09 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe
>>>
>>> When I start pd, I have:
>>> JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
>>> JACK: server returned status 17
>>>
>>>
>>
>> try starting the JACK-server before running Pd.
>> (Pd is supposed to automatically start jack if it is not runing, but
>> people are reporting problems with that)
>>
>> fgmadr
>> IOhannes
>>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-23 Thread Esteban Viveros
Thanks hc!! Now I have the jack option on pd..

But..   I have new problems now.. hhehehehe

When I start pd, I have:
JACK: unable to connect to JACK server
JACK: server returned status 17

If I try to edit audio settings, pd have a half freeze.. I can change some
options but nothing happend and I can't close pd windows..

I tried to pd in administrator mode I can see pd_extended_0 in jack, but pd
are "half freezed" too.. I tried to load a patch, but it still loading ad
infinitum...


2013/1/23 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Ok, this built for me, I hope it works for you too.  There is attached a
> new
> makefile.mingw and another file, s_audio_jack.c.  Copy that to
> ~/pure-data/pd/src/ on top of the file that is already there.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/22/2013 05:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hum.. Not yet.. I copied the last makefile.mingw, did the clean, try make
> > and I have error 1.. See attached file
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >> On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> >>> On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>> Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
> >>>> run the compilation?
> >>>
> >>> good point.
> >>> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
> >>>
> >>> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
> >> again?
> >>
> >> I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
> >> -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a
> >> messy
> >> one again that hopefully works easily.
> >>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-22 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hum.. Not yet.. I copied the last makefile.mingw, did the clean, try make
and I have error 1.. See attached file


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> On 01/22/2013 06:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> > On 2013-01-22 12:21, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >> Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
> >> run the compilation?
> >
> > good point.
> > my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
> >
> > in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw
> again?
>
> I added -I"$(PROGRAMFILES)/Jack/include" and removed
> -I/c/Progra~1/Jack/include", that's probably the issue.  Attached is a
> messy
> one again that hopefully works easily.
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-22 Thread Esteban Viveros
Now I can do the compilation, but I have the same results of yesterday...

Issues:

- Running make -f makefile.mingw clean  I can't complete the compilation,
se attached log file.
- To do the compilation I needed to do make -f makefile.mingw with the 3
last versions of makefile.mingw, first 17 jan version, after 20 jan version
and at last the 21jan version.
All without make clean..

Remembering after make -f makefile.mingw I ran:
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
prefix=
I have the message:
make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
Trying to open pd.exe in ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin I
don't have jackrouter option like in ableton live for example...

Then I see I'm forgot one "install" command and I ran that and I have:
install: missing file operand
Try `install --help' for more information.







2013/1/22 IOhannes m zmoelnig 

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> > Ok.. I will do that... But why until te make clean, yesterday, ir
> > run the compilation?
>
> good point.
> my hint was merely an assumption what might be causing troubles.
>
> in this case: are you sure you are using the correct makefile.mingw again?
>
>
> fgmadr
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-22 Thread Esteban Viveros
Now I can't conclude the compilation...

I did:
cd ~/pure-data/pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw clean
make -f makefile.mingw

Something in jack.h ... I have this file in C:/Program Files
(x86)/Jack/includes/jack

What can I do?


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Ah, I think I know the issue, try rebulding it, there were a couple of
> changes
> in the latest makefile.mingw that didn't take effect:
>
> cd ~/pure-data/src
> make -f makefile.mingw clean
> make -f makefile.mingw
> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> prefix=
> install
>
>
> Then the one you want is in:
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>
> You can't run it directly in ~/pure-data/pd/src because it is missing all
> of
> the Tcl files that are in ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 09:19 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
> > ~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??
> >
> > ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
> > don't have jackrouter option...
> >
> > ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
> >> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
> >>  And
> >> make sure this is all on the same line:
> >>
> >>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix= install
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
> >>> installed in system...??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> * download the zip version:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>>>
> >>>> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>>>
> >>>> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
> >>>> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >>>> prefix=
> >>>> install
> >>>>
> >>>> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> >>>>
> >>>> Now you should be able to go to
> >> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> >>>> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> >>>>
> >>>> .hc
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>> Ok.. It's done!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How to play?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .hc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
> >>>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> >>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> >>>>>>>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ok! It's done.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> New log file
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

2013-01-22 Thread Esteban Viveros
Pd-l2ork and pd-extended living in peace in my Ubuntu it's like a dream!

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Em 22/01/2013 03:00, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  escreveu:

> On 01/21/2013 11:22 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >> Interesting, I'll have a go at it.
> >>
> >> I think I said I'd pay you if you were able to fix this.  Or maybe that
> > was
> >> matju.  Either
> >> way if it's fixed I'll pay you for it.
> >>
> >> To be honest, I have no earthly idea why I care so much about this
> >> feature.  Perhaps
> >> it's from going through the hamster-wheel of externals all written just
> to
> > get
> >> the args
> >> list when this is all that is needed to solve all but the exotic cases.
> >>
> >> -Jonathan
> >
> > You can also try the binary builds I just posted (20130121 version) that
> has
> > all of the aforesaid fixes (assuming you use Ubuntu).
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
>
> Hey ico,
>
> I'm curious why you made the pd-l2ork package conflict with all of the
> puredata packages.  As far as I can tell, it only conflicts with
> puredata-utils.  It would be very handy if pd-l2ork could live in parallel
> with pd and pd-extended.
>
> And in terms of lowering your maintenance load, you could remove lots of
> libraries from pd-l2ork and instead set them in Depend: and have them
> provided
> by the official packages that are already in Debian and Ubuntu.  You can
> see a
> listing of what's included in Debian here: look for all the packages that
> start with pd-
>
>
> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
>
> .hc
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
I tried to run in ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd in cms and I have:

C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\src>pd
spawnl: No such file or directory
C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load
TCL


2013/1/22 Esteban Viveros 

> Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
> ~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??
>
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
> don't have jackrouter option...
>
> ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens
>
>
> 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
>>  And
>> make sure this is all on the same line:
>>
>>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> prefix= install
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> > Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
>> > installed in system...??
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >
>> >>
>> >> * download the zip version:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>> >>
>> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>> >>
>> >> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
>> >> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
>> >> prefix=
>> >> install
>> >>
>> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>> >>
>> >> Now you should be able to go to
>> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
>> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>> >>
>> >> .hc
>> >>
>> >> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>> Ok.. It's done!
>> >>>
>> >>> How to play?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> .hc
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >>>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
>> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
>> >>>> so
>> >>>>>> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
>> >>>>>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ok! It's done.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> New log file
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 ..  Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??

~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
don't have jackrouter option...

~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one.
>  And
> make sure this is all on the same line:
>
>  make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> prefix= install
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
> > installed in system...??
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> * download the zip version:
> >>
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>
> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>
> >> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
> >> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix=
> >> install
> >>
> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> >>
> >> Now you should be able to go to
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> Ok.. It's done!
> >>>
> >>> How to play?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
> >>>>
> >>>> .hc
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> >>>> so
> >>>>>> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> >>>>>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok! It's done.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> New log file
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend..  Maybe the pd-extended
installed in system...??


2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> * download the zip version:
>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
>
> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
>
> * in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> prefix=
> install
>
> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
>
> Now you should be able to go to ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 09:05 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Ok.. It's done!
> >
> > How to play?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> >>>> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
> ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> >> so
> >>>> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> >>>> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Ok! It's done.
> >>>
> >>> New log file
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ok.. It's done!

How to play?


2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > 2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio
> so
> >> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> >> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
> >>
> >
> > Ok! It's done.
> >
> > New log file
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
> that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
> ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
>

Ok! It's done.

New log file


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> Did you replace the makefile.mingw?


Ops... My fault... I'm was tried the worng makefile.mingw ..  :/
Excuses...

Now I have new troubles.. :)

See make.log attached... (Thanks IOhannes!!)


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

> MinGW Shell is what you want.  They used to call that the MSYS shell.


Ok.. I tryed it... Same output...


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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
2013/1/21 Esteban Viveros 

> Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW
> menu..


I don't know... But using MinGW shell I have the same output... This shell
is not the same msys shell?

I tried in mingw shell the command (http://www.mingw.org/wiki/MSYS):
mount c:/mingw /mingw

 and I have:
/bin/mount: mount point '/mingw' is already in use

This may mean that everything is ok with msys?

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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yeah.. I can gender a log file now.. The next log I will use that! Thanks!


2013/1/20 IOhannes zmölnig 

> On 01/20/2013 01:50 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
>> HC, can the compilation process gender a log file?
>>
>>
>>
> i'm not HC, but hopefully i can give some hints.
>
> $ make > make.log
>
> will redirect all stdout to make.log
> since most errors got to stderr, you probably want to do:
>
> $ make > make.log 2>&1
>
> which will first redirect stderr to stdout, and then capture stdout to
> make.log.
>
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-21 Thread Esteban Viveros
Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW menu..



2013/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Ok, that's much better! Try the attached makefile.mingw.  The problem is
> actually here:
>
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
> > (x86)/Jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
>
> Also, it looks like you're using cmd.exe, like I think patco said.  You
> should
> use the MinGW Shell, it is sometimes called MSYS.  You can find it in your
> Program Files menu under MinGW.  Building Pd-extended might work under
> cmd.exe, but I've never tried.  I always use the MinGW MSYS shell.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/20/2013 07:56 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Finally! That's the result of my attempting compilation
> >
> > C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\src>make -f makefile.mingw
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files (x86)/Jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~1/jack/inc
> > ludes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~3/jack/includes
> > -I../../pd/portaud
> > io -I../../pd/portaudio/include -I../../pd/portaudio/src/common
> > -I../../pd/porta
> > udio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
> > -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I
> > ../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL -DPA_USE_ASIO
> > -DPA_USE_WMME -D
> > WINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -mms-bitfields
> > -DWISHAPP='"wish8
> > 5.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused  -Wno-unused-parameter
> > -Wno-par
> > entheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer  -M
> > g_canvas.c g_g
> > raph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c  g_io.c g_scalar.c
> > g_traversal.
> > c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c  g_all_guis.c  m_pd.c m_class.c
> > m_obj.
> > c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c  m_conf_pdextended.c m_glob.c m_sched.c
> >  s_main
> > .c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c  s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c
> > s_midi.
> > c  s_utf8.c  d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c  d_math.c
> > d_arra
> > y.c d_global.c  d_delay.c d_resample.c  x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c
> >  x_acousti
> > cs.c d_soundfile.c  e_fft.c e_gfxstub.c e_dac.c e_midi.c  g_magicglass.c
> >  scandi
> > r.c  import.c path.c print.c closebang.c initbang.c loadbang.c
> > d_fft_mayer.c d_f
> > ftroutine.c s_audio_pa.c s_audio_paring.c s_audio_jack.c  s_audio_mmio.c
> > s_midi_
> > mmio.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common
> > /pa_trace.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_process.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/
> > common/pa_front.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_dither.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio
> > /src/common/pa_cpuload.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_converters.c
> >  ../../p
> > d/portaudio/src/common/pa_allocation.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_ringbuf
> > fer.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_hostapis.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/o
> > s/win/pa_win_util.c  ../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_waveformat.c
> >  ../../pd
> > /portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.c
> >  ../../pd/portaudio/src/hostapi/wmme
> > /pa_win_wmme.c g_all_guis.h m_imp.h g_canvas.h m_pd.h s_stuff.h
> > g_magicglass.h
> >  s_audio_paring.h scandir.h
>  ../portaudio/src/os/win/pa_win_coinitialize.h \
> > > makefile.dependencies
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> > /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `gcc -I../../pd/src -IC:\Program Files
> > (x86)/Jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~1/jack/includes -I/c/Progra~2/jack/includes
> > -I/c/Progra~3/jack/inclu
> > des -I../../pd/portaudio -I../../pd/portaudio/include
> > -I../../pd/portaudio/src/c
> > ommon -I../../pd/portaudio/src/os/win -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/common
> > -I../../pd
> > /asio/ASIOSDK2/host -I../../pd/asio/ASIOSDK2/host/pc -DPD -DPD_INTERNAL
> > -DPA_USE
> > _ASIO -DPA_USE_WMME -DWINVER=0x0502  -DUSEAPI_MMIO -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO
> > -mms-bitfi
> > elds -DWISHAPP='"wish85.exe"' -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused
> >  -Wno-unu
> > sed-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch  -O3 -funroll-loops
> > -fomit-frame-poin
> > ter  -M g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c
> >  g_io.c g
> > _scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-20 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ops...  I tryied the option select all and the select with mouse feature
are working now in cmd...


2013/1/20 Esteban Viveros 

> Really Patrice...  But How can I select the text?? I'm trying with the
> mouse but that's don't working here...
>
>
> 2013/1/19 Patrice Colet 
>
>>
>>
>> > > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
>> > > option.. :/
>>
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> Are you really using cmd for compiling, or msys console?
>>
>> On cmd you can select and copy with menu actions, cygwin uses cmd...
>> In msys console it's truly like a unix terminal, Ctrl+Insert and
>> Shift+Insert for copying and pasting
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-20 Thread Esteban Viveros
HC, can the compilation process gender a log file?


2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Please Reply All so that your emails go to the list also.
>
> Can you post the whole build log? those "lot of letters" hold the key to
> the
> problem :)
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/18/2013 11:54 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Now I can see some letters on cmd... hehehehe  But not yet..
> >
> > I have Error 1
> >
> > The compilation start with
> >
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > (... lot of letters ...)
> >
> > makefile.mingw:273: recipe for targets 'makefile.dependencies' failed
> > make: *** [makefile.dependencies] Error 1
> >
> > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
> option.. :/
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> Oops sorry, it should be:
> >>
> >> cd ~/pure-data/pd/src
> >> make -f makefile.mingw
> >>
> >> Basically run the make command in the same folder as the file
> >> makefile.mingw.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/18/2013 09:34 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> :/   I have the same output..
> >>>
> >>> remembering in ~/pure-data I have now 3 folders:
> >>> Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >>> pd
> >>> sources
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the
> >>>> Terminal:
> >>>>
> >>>> cd ~/pure-data
> >>>> mv pd-extended pd
> >>>> cd pd
> >>>> make -f makefile.mingw
> >>>>
> >>>> Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.
> >>>>
> >>>> .hc
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>> when I ran the command:
> >>>>> make -f makefile.mingw
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have the response:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (in ~/puredata)
> >>>>> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> >>>>> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
> >>>>> make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> >>>>> make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
> >>>>> makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> >>>>> make: *** No rule to make target
> >>>>> '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
> >>>>> 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble
> than
> >>>> its
> >>>>>> worth. Do this instead:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * download the zip version:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * run these commands:
> >>>>>> cd ~/pure-data
> >>>>>> git clone git://
> >>>>>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
> >>>>>> cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * now run these commands:
> >>>>>> make -f makefile.mingw
> >>>>>> make -f makefile.mingw
> DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >>>>>> prefix=
> >>>>>> install
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (make sure the last line is all on one li

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-20 Thread Esteban Viveros
Really Patrice...  But How can I select the text?? I'm trying with the
mouse but that's don't working here...


2013/1/19 Patrice Colet 

>
>
> > > Excuse the "(... lot of letters..)" but my cmd don't have ctrl+c
> > > option.. :/
>
>
> hello,
>
> Are you really using cmd for compiling, or msys console?
>
> On cmd you can select and copy with menu actions, cygwin uses cmd...
> In msys console it's truly like a unix terminal, Ctrl+Insert and
> Shift+Insert for copying and pasting
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-18 Thread Esteban Viveros
:/   I have the same output..

remembering in ~/pure-data I have now 3 folders:
Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
pd
sources




2013/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Oops, yeah, I forgot there is one ugly little detail.  Run this in the
> Terminal:
>
> cd ~/pure-data
> mv pd-extended pd
> cd pd
> make -f makefile.mingw
>
> Now you can do the rest of the stuff from the previous email.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/18/2013 08:10 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > when I ran the command:
> > make -f makefile.mingw
> >
> > I have the response:
> >
> > (in ~/puredata)
> > make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >
> > (in ~/puredata/pd-extended)
> > make: makefile.mingw: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target 'makefile.mingw'. Stop.
> >
> > (in ~/puredata/pd-extended/src)
> > makefile.mingw:300: makefile.dependencies: No such file or directory
> > make: *** No rule to make target
> > '../../pd/portaudio/src/common/pa_stream.c' , needed by
> > 'makefile.dependencies'. Stop.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >
> >>
> >> You don't want the auto-build script for this.  Its more trouble than
> its
> >> worth. Do this instead:
> >>
> >> * download the zip version:
> >>
> >>
> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
> >>
> >> * unzip it into ~/pure-data
> >>
> >> * run these commands:
> >> cd ~/pure-data
> >> git clone git://
> >> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
> >> cd ~/pure-data/pd-extended
> >>
> >> * now copy attached file into ~/pure-data/pd-extended/src/
> >>
> >> * now run these commands:
> >> make -f makefile.mingw
> >> make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
> >> prefix=
> >> install
> >>
> >> (make sure the last line is all on one line)
> >>
> >> Now you should be able to go to
> ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin
> >> and run pd.exe and have a working Pd with jack (fingers crossed)
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 01/17/2013 05:40 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>> I need to run git clone git://
> >>> pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the
> >> same
> >>> folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)
> >>>
> >>> In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)
> >>>
> >>> mkdir ~/auto-build
> >>> cd ~/auto-buildhttps://
> >>
> pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
> >>> pd-extended
> >>> ~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
> >>>>
> >>>> No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
> >>>> Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to
> save
> >>>> you
> >>>> that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now
> you
> >> are
> >>>> setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
> >>>>
> >>>> You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
> >>>>
> >>>> .hc
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>> I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
> >>>>> binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ops... Already done... :/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script...
> >> Can I
> >>>>>> continue?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/17 H

Re: [PD] I report errors with canvas :

2013-01-17 Thread Esteban Viveros
I have the same error... But I can't reproduce that yet...

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Em 17/01/2013 21:40, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"  escreveu:

>
> Can you send a patch that reproduces this?
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/17/2013 05:37 PM, Olivier Baudry wrote:
> > Dear All
> >
> > I report errors with canvas object :
> >
> > bad window path name ".x26e160.c"
> > bad window path name ".x26e160.c"
> > while executing
> > "winfo toplevel $tkcanvas"
> > (procedure "::pdtk_canvas::pdtk_canvas_do_getscroll" line 2)
> > invoked from within
> > "::pdtk_canvas::pdtk_canvas_do_getscroll .x26e160.c"
> > ("after" script)
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-17 Thread Esteban Viveros
I need to run git clone git://
pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git in the same
folder of the libraries built? (~/pure-data/sources)

In my case I need to do this with your script: (?)

mkdir ~/auto-build
cd 
~/auto-buildhttps://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
pd-extended
~/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh



2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> Yeah, it looks like the binary installer for jack is all you need.
>
> No problem if you just built all the libraries in Building Library
> Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'.  I was just trying to save
> you
> that effort, since its not needed for what you want to do.  But now you are
> setup to build all of Pd-extended and perhaps even readanysf~ too :-D
>
> You will definitely need to download the Pd-extended source.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/17/2013 03:37 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > I have one more question... When you say to install Jack, you say the
> > binary software or I need to find a source code of Jack audio?
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/17 Esteban Viveros 
> >
> >> Ops... Already done... :/
> >>
> >> Now only remains download pd source.. Did I that too wrong?
> >>
> >> I'm thinking to download the pd source and then run your script... Can I
> >> continue?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>
> >>>
> >>> You don't need that stuff at all for what you are doing, skip that
> step.
> >>> That's only for building things like Gem.
> >>>
> >>> .hc
> >>>
> >>> On 01/16/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>> Ok...
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I need to know where is pure-data directory..? It's needed to
> >>> Building
> >>>> Library Dependencies For Windows From SVN '/Sources'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I updated the makefile.mingw a bit, I forgot to add something before.
> >>>  Its
> >>>>> attached.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> .hc
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 01/16/2013 06:44 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>>> gcc.exe ,GCC. 4.6.2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 01/16/2013 06:28 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> >>>>>>>> HC,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have two question at time..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> First, I need to add Cygwin to system path? If yes, I run SETX
> path
> >>>>>>>> c:\cygwin;c:\cygwin\bin;%path%  in Cygwin Terminal?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is probably optional but cygwin is useful.  You do it from the
> >>>>> System
> >>>>>>> control panel:
> >>>>>>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you install TortoiseSVN, I don't think you need cygwin at all
> >>> (watch
> >>>>> out
> >>>>>>> for download links in the big add in that page):
> >>>>>>> http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Two, In session: "Copying Libgmp-10Dll for Cc1.Exe" I don't have
> >>>>>>>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.7.2/ but I have
> >>>>>>>> /mingw/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.6.2  I need to create the 4.7.2
> >>> directory
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>>>> copy the dll's to 4.6.2?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Copy the dlls to the existing folder, don't create a new one.  You
> >>> can
> >>>>> tell
> >>>>>>> which version of gcc you have by doing:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> gcc --version
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My guess is that you have 4.6.2, which should work fine.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> .hc
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>

Re: [PD] Jack support on Windows

2013-01-16 Thread Esteban Viveros
Wow If I had the knowledge to do.. (!) *.*

But I can try... I need documentation to learn.. Where can I begin?


2013/1/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> I agree, it should be included.  Why don't you try to build it?  Or maybe
> if
> patco has some time, he could take a look.
>
> Its much too late to include it in 0.43.4, but once its working, its easy
> to
> include in nightly builds of 0.44.
>
> .hc
>
> On 01/16/2013 12:58 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Excuse the hassle... But I think this very important ..
> >
> > The windows version of pd-extended 0.43 don't have support to Jack..
> >
> > It would be great can connect my new pd extended release to ableton live
> to
> > play a little..
> >
> >
> >
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[PD] Pd shortcut stop to work

2013-01-11 Thread Esteban Viveros
Today I'm trying the pd in
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4 for precise
amd64 and the pd shortcut stop to work..

The implementation of icon to pd patches doen't work here too..

System based on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
Pd Version: 0.43.4-extended-20130111

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Re: [PD] Patch bugged on pd-extended 0.43.4

2012-12-09 Thread Esteban Viveros
Well... I can't run 0.42 libraries without administrator mode on win7.. :/

On Dream Studio (based Ubuntu 12.04.1) I only can install 0.43 and it stop
to open some patchs I have..

Some suggestion to put operational pd-extended on my life?? hehehehe


2012/12/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> You can delete the registry settings for Pd-extended in:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE SOFTWARE Pd-extended
>
> The portable version might still write to the registry if you change the
> preferences.
>
> .hc
>
> On Dec 7, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> Hum.. I'm using 0.42.5 installed version, and when I try to use 0.43.4
> "portable" version, 0.42.5 stop to load libraries... When I try to use the
> pd-settings to fix the library load, I don't have sucess.
>
> Now I only can open my patchs with 0.42.5 running in administrator mode...
> :(...
>
> Some suggestion to fix that?? Delete manually with regedit pd-something??
>
>
> 2012/12/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> If you download the zip build, then you can run it without installing it
>> at all by double-clicking the 'pd-extended.bat" file thats included there.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>> Pd libraries can't be loaded... I tried tge pd-settings.reg , but I only
>> can run pd 0.42.5 with libraries on administrator mode.. :/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/12/6 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, one more fix, this time I think I found the problem with your patch.
>>>  There is an [image] that has no file or image name in it.  It used to be
>>> invisible and create that error sometimes.  I now made [image] throw an
>>> error and use a filler image when no image is specified.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16650
>>>
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>>
>>> > hc. , I have the same error.. I tried Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121205
>>> version, on Linux and on Windows 7 Home Premium x64...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2012/12/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>> >
>>> > And back to the original problem.  I am pretty sure I fixed the image
>>> "UNHANDLED ERROR" problem with these commits:
>>> >
>>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16648
>>> >
>>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16649
>>> >
>>> > try tomorrow's build and let me know.
>>> >
>>> > .hc
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I tried the zip version... And it don't work yet.. I have the message:
>>> >>
>>> >> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't open
>>> "C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/": permission denied
>>> >> while executing
>>> >> "image create photo img1eb1948 -file
>>> {C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/}"
>>> >> ("uplevel" body line 189)
>>> >> invoked from within
>>> >> "uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"
>>> >>
>>> >> And now I have another mather... Pd-extended 0.42.5 can't load the pd
>>> extended library... :/
>>> >>
>>> >> On 0.42.5 I have when I start it:
>>> >>
>>> >> [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
>>> >>  [import] is still in development, the interface could change!
>>> >>  compiled against Pd version 0.42.5
>>> >> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
>>> >> GEM: ver: 0.92.3
>>> >> GEM: compiled: Mar 15 2010
>>> >> GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
>>> >> GEM: Authors :   Mark Danks (original version)
>>> >> GEM: Chris Clepper
>>> >> GEM: Cyrille Henry
>>> >> GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
>>> >> GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle,
>>> Hans-Christop Steiner, et al.
>>> >> GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
>>> >> GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
>>> >> GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
>>> >&

Re: [PD] Patch bugged on pd-extended 0.43.4

2012-12-07 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hum.. I'm using 0.42.5 installed version, and when I try to use 0.43.4
"portable" version, 0.42.5 stop to load libraries... When I try to use the
pd-settings to fix the library load, I don't have sucess.

Now I only can open my patchs with 0.42.5 running in administrator mode...
:(...

Some suggestion to fix that?? Delete manually with regedit pd-something??


2012/12/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> If you download the zip build, then you can run it without installing it
> at all by double-clicking the 'pd-extended.bat" file thats included there.
>
> .hc
>
> On Dec 6, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> Pd libraries can't be loaded... I tried tge pd-settings.reg , but I only
> can run pd 0.42.5 with libraries on administrator mode.. :/
>
>
>
>
> 2012/12/6 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> Ok, one more fix, this time I think I found the problem with your patch.
>>  There is an [image] that has no file or image name in it.  It used to be
>> invisible and create that error sometimes.  I now made [image] throw an
>> error and use a filler image when no image is specified.
>>
>>
>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16650
>>
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>> > hc. , I have the same error.. I tried Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121205
>> version, on Linux and on Windows 7 Home Premium x64...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/12/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>> >
>> > And back to the original problem.  I am pretty sure I fixed the image
>> "UNHANDLED ERROR" problem with these commits:
>> >
>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16648
>> >
>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16649
>> >
>> > try tomorrow's build and let me know.
>> >
>> > .hc
>> >
>> > On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>> >
>> >> I tried the zip version... And it don't work yet.. I have the message:
>> >>
>> >> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't open
>> "C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/": permission denied
>> >> while executing
>> >> "image create photo img1eb1948 -file
>> {C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/}"
>> >> ("uplevel" body line 189)
>> >> invoked from within
>> >> "uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"
>> >>
>> >> And now I have another mather... Pd-extended 0.42.5 can't load the pd
>> extended library... :/
>> >>
>> >> On 0.42.5 I have when I start it:
>> >>
>> >> [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
>> >>  [import] is still in development, the interface could change!
>> >>  compiled against Pd version 0.42.5
>> >> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
>> >> GEM: ver: 0.92.3
>> >> GEM: compiled: Mar 15 2010
>> >> GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
>> >> GEM: Authors :   Mark Danks (original version)
>> >> GEM: Chris Clepper
>> >> GEM: Cyrille Henry
>> >> GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
>> >> GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle,
>> Hans-Christop Steiner, et al.
>> >> GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
>> >> GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
>> >> GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
>> >> GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
>> >> GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX
>> >> GEM: using SSE2 optimization
>> >> Gem Man: QT init OK
>> >> cyclone: can't load library
>> >> zexy: can't load library
>> >> creb: can't load library
>> >> cxc: can't load library
>> >> iemlib: can't load library
>> >> list-abs: can't load library
>> >> mapping: can't load library
>> >> markex: can't load library
>> >> maxlib: can't load library
>> >> mjlib: can't load library
>> >> motex: can't load library
>> >> oscx: can't load library
>> >> pddp: can't load library
>> >> pdogg: can't load library
>> >> pmpd: can't load library
>> >> sig

Re: [PD] Patch bugged on pd-extended 0.43.4

2012-12-05 Thread Esteban Viveros
hc. , I have the same error.. I tried Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121205 version,
on Linux and on Windows 7 Home Premium x64...






2012/12/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> And back to the original problem.  I am pretty sure I fixed the image
> "UNHANDLED ERROR" problem with these commits:
>
> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16648
>
> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revision=16649
>
> try tomorrow's build and let me know.
>
> .hc
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> I tried the zip version... And it don't work yet.. I have the message:
>
> (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't open "C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/":
> permission denied
> while executing
> "image create photo img1eb1948 -file {C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/}"
> ("uplevel" body line 189)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"
>
> And now I have another mather... Pd-extended 0.42.5 can't load the pd
> extended library... :/
>
> On 0.42.5 I have when I start it:
>
> [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
>  [import] is still in development, the interface could change!
> compiled against Pd version 0.42.5
> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
> GEM: ver: 0.92.3
> GEM: compiled: Mar 15 2010
> GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
> GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version)
> GEM: Chris Clepper
> GEM: Cyrille Henry
> GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
> GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle,
> Hans-Christop Steiner, et al.
> GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
> GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
> GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
> GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
> GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX
> GEM: using SSE2 optimization
> Gem Man: QT init OK
> cyclone: can't load library
> zexy: can't load library
> creb: can't load library
> cxc: can't load library
> iemlib: can't load library
> list-abs: can't load library
> mapping: can't load library
> markex: can't load library
> maxlib: can't load library
> mjlib: can't load library
> motex: can't load library
> oscx: can't load library
> pddp: can't load library
> pdogg: can't load library
> pmpd: can't load library
> sigpack: can't load library
> smlib: can't load library
> unauthorized: can't load library
> pan: can't load library
> hcs: can't load library
> jmmmp: can't load library
> ext13: can't load library
> ggee: can't load library
> iem_anything: can't load library
> ekext: can't load library
> flatgui: can't load library
> chaos: can't load library
>
>
>
>
> 2012/12/4 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>>
>> I think I fixed that recently, try today's build:
>>
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>> I tried to open this patch on pd-extended 0.43.4 but they open very
>> bugged... No cords..
>>
>> On pd-extended 0.42.5 they are working well..
>>
>> Something to do??
>>
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Re: [PD] Patch bugged on pd-extended 0.43.4

2012-12-04 Thread Esteban Viveros
I tried the zip version... And it don't work yet.. I have the message:

(Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't open "C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/":
permission denied
while executing
"image create photo img1eb1948 -file {C:/Users/Esteban/Desktop/Square/}"
("uplevel" body line 189)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd"

And now I have another mather... Pd-extended 0.42.5 can't load the pd
extended library... :/

On 0.42.5 I have when I start it:

[import] $Revision: 1.2 $
[import] is still in development, the interface could change!
compiled against Pd version 0.42.5
GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.92.3
GEM: compiled: Mar 15 2010
GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version)
GEM: Chris Clepper
GEM: Cyrille Henry
GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle,
Hans-Christop Steiner, et al.
GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX
GEM: using SSE2 optimization
Gem Man: QT init OK
cyclone: can't load library
zexy: can't load library
creb: can't load library
cxc: can't load library
iemlib: can't load library
list-abs: can't load library
mapping: can't load library
markex: can't load library
maxlib: can't load library
mjlib: can't load library
motex: can't load library
oscx: can't load library
pddp: can't load library
pdogg: can't load library
pmpd: can't load library
sigpack: can't load library
smlib: can't load library
unauthorized: can't load library
pan: can't load library
hcs: can't load library
jmmmp: can't load library
ext13: can't load library
ggee: can't load library
iem_anything: can't load library
ekext: can't load library
flatgui: can't load library
chaos: can't load library




2012/12/4 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> I think I fixed that recently, try today's build:
>
> http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
>
> .hc
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>
> I tried to open this patch on pd-extended 0.43.4 but they open very
> bugged... No cords..
>
> On pd-extended 0.42.5 they are working well..
>
> Something to do??
>
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Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-24 Thread Esteban Viveros
It would be amazing if Pd-extended 0.43 is put to work with jack... *.*

Pd-L2Ork can't suply my expectations..

objects like [output~]  [Scope~]  [envgen]  don't work on the L2Ork version
here..

My last chance would be pd-extended 0.43...


2012/11/24 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> If someone can point me to the commit that fixes this, I'm happy to
> include it in Pd-extended 0.43.  I just never use Jack, so I don't know
> what's what.  Things work in my basic tests.
>
> I know that Miller changed this stuff in pure-data.git.
>
> .hc
>
> On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Gerhard Lang wrote:
>
> > Tx Ivica and Esteban,
> > as similarly afflicted user encouraged by this thread I followed this
>  recommendation, replaced pd and pd-extended with pd-l2ork.
> > Works flawlessly together with jack 1.9.9-test5 from kx-studio ppa, dsp
> is switchable, some other bugs are gone, my patches run :D
> > You made my day and now I'm going to learn more about L2ork.
> > Gerhard
> >
> > Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:
> >>
> >> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except for the
> one caused by jack which in your case should not be a problem unless you
> physically disconnect (accidentally our otherwise) your audio hardware
> while jack is running.
> >>
> >> On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros"  emvive...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>HUm... Ok... I will try!
> >>
> >>But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?
> >>
> >>
> >>2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic mailto:i...@vt.edu>>
> >>
> >>That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try
> >>pd-l2ork...
> >>
> >>On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros"
> >>mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>Ops...  I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and
> >>then I open Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I
> >>don't have sound...
> >>
> >>On messages box I have:
> >>
> >>00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
> >>
> >>00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
> >>
> >>00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
> >>
> >>00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >>00:18:26.467 Client activated.
> >>
> >>00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >>00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >>00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
> >>
> >>00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
> >>
> >>00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
> >>
> >># making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
> >>
> >># starting pulseaudio
> >>
> >># connecting pulseaudio to JACK
> >>
> >>Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
> >>
> >>Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
> >>
> >>00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit
> >>status=256.
> >>
> >>00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >>00:19:44.311 Client activated.
> >>
> >>00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >>00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >>00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
> >>
> >>00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
> >>
> >>00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
> >>
> >>00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
> >>
> >>00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >>00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
> >>
> >>00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
> >>
> >>00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
> >>
> >>
> >>What can I do now?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros  >><mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>>
> >>
> >>Hmmm... I can understand now...
> >>
> >>Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio
> >>testing ppa
> 

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-24 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ivica,

 Yes, the latency only affects midi.. :/  But  checking, I saw I'm with
jackd 1.9.9..

Now I'll try with jack 1.9.8

I send notices.. ;)


2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic 

> This has to do likely with your audio latency settings. Try the pd-l2ork
> shortcut in the unity menu. For best results run jack first then run the
> said shortcut. The shortcut provides aggressive 5ms audio latency which
> runs perfectly fine on our L2Ork atom netbooks with lowlatency kernel. If
> the lag is on midi side, that needs to be investigated further.
> On Nov 24, 2012 11:57 AM, "Esteban Viveros"  wrote:
>
>> Yep... Now DSP issue is solved.
>>
>> Now I have a new problem.. I will write a new mail to this... :/
>>
>> Pd-l2Ork have a considerable lag between audio and midi response..
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic 
>>
>>> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except for the
>>> one caused by jack which in your case should not be a problem unless you
>>> physically disconnect (accidentally our otherwise) your audio hardware
>>> while jack is running.
>>>  On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> HUm... Ok... I will try!
>>>>
>>>> But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic 
>>>>
>>>>> That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try pd-l2ork...
>>>>> On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros" 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ops...  I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and then I open
>>>>>> Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I don't have sound...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On messages box I have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:26.467 Client activated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # starting pulseaudio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # connecting pulseaudio to JACK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:19:44.311 Client activated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What can I do now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm... I can understand now...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio testing 
>>>>>>> ppa<https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/testing>and the 
>>>>>>>

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-24 Thread Esteban Viveros
HUm... Ok... I will try!

But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?


2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic 

> That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try pd-l2ork...
> On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros"  wrote:
>
>> Ops...  I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and then I open
>> Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I don't have sound...
>>
>> On messages box I have:
>>
>> 00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
>>
>> 00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
>>
>> 00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
>>
>> 00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:18:26.467 Client activated.
>>
>> 00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
>>
>> 00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
>>
>> 00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
>>
>> # making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
>>
>> # starting pulseaudio
>>
>> # connecting pulseaudio to JACK
>>
>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>
>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>
>> 00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.
>>
>> 00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:19:44.311 Client activated.
>>
>> 00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
>>
>>
>> What can I do now?
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros 
>>
>>> Hmmm... I can understand now...
>>>
>>> Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio testing 
>>> ppa<https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/testing>and the problem 
>>> is the same... :(
>>>
>>> This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire packages on version
>>> 1.9.9  but the package libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8
>>>
>>> The next step will be to compile jack packages on version 1.9.9
>>>
>>> Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how can I compile that? For
>>> that I need some help.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic 
>>>
>>>> See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to detect its soundcard has
>>>> disconnected
>>>>
>>>> Could this be the difference between 1.9.8 and git version?
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>>>> > All,
>>>> >
>>>> > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that the default Jack
>>>> server is
>>>> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am wrong but my
>>>> understanding this
>>>> > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being developed in parallel with
>>>> 1.x
>>>> > series of regular jack.
>>>>
>>>> correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
>>>>
>>>> > Either way, one of my concerns is that while in the old jack when one
>>>> > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was trying to talk to (e.g. a
>>>> USB
>>>> > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
>>>>
>>>> In my experience it stopped but never gracefully (ie it crashed). but
>>>> it's been a while since I used jack1.
>>>>
>>>> > The new version (and this could
>>>> > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged in some kind of a
>>>> spinlock
>>>> > that often times locks up the machine (this may be in part since I am
>>>> > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group given priority) and at
>>>> times
>>>> > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and making the computer
>>>> barely
>>>> > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps con

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-23 Thread Esteban Viveros
Ops...  I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and then I open Jack.
Now The DSP function work well, but I don't have sound...

On messages box I have:

00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.

00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.

00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.

00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.

00:18:26.467 Client activated.

00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.

00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.

00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.

00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...

00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio

# making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes

# starting pulseaudio

# connecting pulseaudio to JACK

Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou

Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou

00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.

00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.

00:19:44.311 Client activated.

00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.

00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.

00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.

00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.

00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.

00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.

00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.

00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.

00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.

00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).


What can I do now?


2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros 

> Hmmm... I can understand now...
>
> Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio testing 
> ppa<https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/testing>and the problem is 
> the same... :(
>
> This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire packages on version
> 1.9.9  but the package libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8
>
> The next step will be to compile jack packages on version 1.9.9
>
> Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how can I compile that? For
> that I need some help.
>
> Regards
>
>
> 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic 
>
>> See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to detect its soundcard has
>> disconnected
>>
>> Could this be the difference between 1.9.8 and git version?
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"  wrote:
>>
>> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that the default Jack server
>> is
>> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding
>> this
>> > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being developed in parallel with
>> 1.x
>> > series of regular jack.
>>
>> correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
>>
>> > Either way, one of my concerns is that while in the old jack when one
>> > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was trying to talk to (e.g. a USB
>> > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
>>
>> In my experience it stopped but never gracefully (ie it crashed). but
>> it's been a while since I used jack1.
>>
>> > The new version (and this could
>> > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged in some kind of a
>> spinlock
>> > that often times locks up the machine (this may be in part since I am
>> > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group given priority) and at
>> times
>> > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and making the computer
>> barely
>> > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps connected to jack that I tested
>> so
>> > far are also stuck in a loop waiting for a response from jack (although
>> this
>> > could be the app's shortcoming)--jack never broadcasts a signal that it
>> has
>> > lost the soundcard (AFAICT). FWIW I am running jackdmp through
>> qjackctl...
>> > Any thoughts on this matter would be most appreciated.
>> >
>>
>> I can't reproduce this. jack2 stops the backend when the device is
>> disconnected. You can switch to a new backend using jack_control
>> (sending some Dbus messages to jackd) without re-starting jackd. No CPU
>> hogging here. - I'm running jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4 from git.
>>
>> robin
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-23 Thread Esteban Viveros
Hmmm... I can understand now...

Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio testing
ppa<https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/testing>and the
problem is the same... :(

This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire packages on version
1.9.9  but the package libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8

The next step will be to compile jack packages on version 1.9.9

Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how can I compile that? For
that I need some help.

Regards

2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic 

> See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
>
> ** **
>
> Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to detect its soundcard has
> disconnected
>
> Could this be the difference between 1.9.8 and git version?
>
> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"  wrote:
>
> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that the default Jack server is
> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding
> this
> > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being developed in parallel with 1.x
> > series of regular jack.
>
> correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
>
> > Either way, one of my concerns is that while in the old jack when one
> > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was trying to talk to (e.g. a USB
> > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
>
> In my experience it stopped but never gracefully (ie it crashed). but
> it's been a while since I used jack1.
>
> > The new version (and this could
> > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged in some kind of a spinlock
> > that often times locks up the machine (this may be in part since I am
> > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group given priority) and at times
> > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and making the computer barely
> > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps connected to jack that I tested so
> > far are also stuck in a loop waiting for a response from jack (although
> this
> > could be the app's shortcoming)--jack never broadcasts a signal that it
> has
> > lost the soundcard (AFAICT). FWIW I am running jackdmp through
> qjackctl...
> > Any thoughts on this matter would be most appreciated.
> >
>
> I can't reproduce this. jack2 stops the backend when the device is
> disconnected. You can switch to a new backend using jack_control
> (sending some Dbus messages to jackd) without re-starting jackd. No CPU
> hogging here. - I'm running jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4 from git.
>
> robin
>
> ** **
>



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Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-23 Thread Esteban Viveros
Lorenzo,

I tried to run Pd-Extended after and until run jack and I have the same
problem.

I forgot to say, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 *64bits* ..

Ivica,

About Jack, I have installed the most recent version... Jack2 1.9.8 .. I'm
using the k <https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa>xstudio
ppa<https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa>and the dream
studio ppa <https://launchpad.net/~dreamstudio/+archive/dreamstudio-stable>.
I think in there we have the most recent and stable jackd versions...

I can try contact with jack list yet..  Some suggestions?


2012/11/23 Ivica Bukvic 

> Starting jack after pd is fixed in pd-l2ork. Likewise, hanging after
> connection with jack is lost is fixed in pd-l2ork. Pd 0.43 also has a
> regression in its audio stack rewrite where reconnecting to jack fails and
> outputs a salvo of errors (at least this was the case with the one that
> ships with Ubuntu).
>
> In respect to pd-l2ork and jack there is only one more lingering problem
> which is actually related to jackd that ships with Ubuntu 12.04. Namely,
> sometimes when jack is running and one somehow loses the soundcard (e.g.
> accidental disconnection of a usb soundcard) while jackd is running.
> Killing jackd process fixes this (since it is the one hanging and it never
> sends signal to pd-l2ork or any other client that the sound is gone so
> pd-L2ork waits on jackd). I was assured that this has been fixed if one
> compiles latest version of jackd from source but haven't tried yet if that
> indeed fixes it.
>
> HTH
> On Nov 23, 2012 5:01 AM, "Lorenzo Sutton" 
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/11/12 23:35, Esteban Viveros wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm using pd-extended 0.43.4, installed via Hans-Cristoph Steiner ppa.
>>> I'm using this version because I can't install the stable version in Ubuntu
>>> 12.04.
>>>
>>> The problem is, when I start pd with Jack in -rt mode or wherever mode,
>>> if I turn on dsp, they work well, but if I turn off, and try to turn on yet
>>> dsp, pd-extended freeze...
>>>
>> Does this happen even if jack (through Qjackctl or whatever) was started
>> *before you start Pd??
>>
>> If so I guess it could be this bug:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/**tracker/index.php?func=detail&**
>> aid=3543466&group_id=55736&**atid=478070<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3543466&group_id=55736&atid=478070>
>>
>> Indeed also turning DSP off when jack was auto-started by Pditselfscrews
>> everything up.
>>
>> The workaround in this case would be to always start jack *before*
>> starting Pd, then everything seems to behave well.
>>
>> Lorenzo.
>>
>>
>>> Closing Qjackctl (after some time ubuntu can close that) pd-extended
>>> returns to work, and I can use on alsa directly sucessfull..
>>>
>>> Someone knows where I can comunicate this bug to the developers? Is here
>>> the place?
>>>
>>
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