Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
object boxes.

Regards,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load
 it

 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
package for Fedora available at
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Hector

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
 Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
 object boxes.

 Regards,

 Hector


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think this
 is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
 have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
 load
 it


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in
a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora
the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the
gnome settings.

Cheers,

Hector

p.s. I attached a screenshot of the way it looks with set sizelist 5
6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package
 included in Fedora.

 - could you post a screenshot?

 - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed?

 - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996:

        if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} {
                set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25
        } else {
                set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36
        }


 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
 package for Fedora available at
 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Hector

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
 Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
 object boxes.

 Regards,

 Hector


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything
 about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you
 haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't
 any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think
 this
 is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor,
 and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are
 some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
 have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
 load
 it



 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!

2009-05-26 Thread Hector Centeno
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size
issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has
problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font
section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a
configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed
that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in
Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.

Cheers,

Hector


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in
 a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora
 the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:

 set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After
 getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the
 gnome settings.

 Cheers,

 Hector

 p.s. I attached a screenshot of the way it looks with set sizelist 5
 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package
 included in Fedora.

 - could you post a screenshot?

 - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed?

 - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996:

        if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} {
                set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25
        } else {
                set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36
        }


 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2
 package for Fedora available at
 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Hector

 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Which package is that?  Did you try this release?

 .hc

 On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora
 Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the
 object boxes.

 Regards,

 Hector


 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I think this is basically ready to go


 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 Please test on Windows and give feedback!  I haven't heard anything
 about
 Windows.  It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you
 haven't
 already so we can find the last bugs.  As far as I know, there aren't
 any
 outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release.  So I think
 this
 is
 the release.

 Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

 http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker

 This release candidate includes:
 * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms
 * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor,
 and
 sigpack
 * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are
 some
 really flaky audio cards in Windows land
 * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I
 have
 tested in the past 7 years works with that

 KNOWN BUGS

 Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if
 you
 find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your
 information
 there.

 - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
 preferences

 - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd

 - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to
 load
 it



 

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Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN

2009-05-23 Thread Hector Centeno
IOhannes,

Thanks again. But then why if I open the example VBAP patches there is
no error message event though there is no ls_setup file in the
directory?

Cheers,

Hector


On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:59 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 Hector Centeno wrote:
 Thanks hc,

 How do I achieve that? What is the order for loading things in PD?

 the order of loading is the order of occurence.
 first, all libraries in your pdsettings are loaded in the order they
 appear therein.
 then all libraries specified via the cmdline are loaded (in the order
 you specified them).
 finally, libraries are loaded within patches: 1st libs specified with
 [declare] (and probably [import]) are loaded; lastly the remaining
 libraries are loaded whenever an object of their name occurs first.


 Sorry if I'm asking for something too obvious, I haven't used PD that
 much. In my patch [vbap] is inside a sub-patch and
 [define_loudspeakers] in another sub-patch and both within the main
 patch. I tried putting the second inside the first but that didn't
 help.



 so:
 if you haven't loaded [vbap] yet, make sure that an object [vbap] is
 _created_ before [define_loudspeakers].
 (just Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Z the sub-patch containing [define_loudspeakers]
 should be sufficient)

 having said all that: your problem seems to be that
 [define_loudspeakers] cannot read a file named ls_setup, which
 according to its name might define the actual rigging information for
 your loudspeaker setup.
 since the object itself loads fine, there seems to be no problem with
 needing [vbap] at all.
 your initial assumption that you have to create a file ls_setup seems
 to be quite right.

 gfmadrs
 IOhannes


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Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN

2009-05-23 Thread Hector Centeno
IOhannes,

I got it working by doing a ctrl-x and ctrl-z with the sub-patch that
contains the loudspeaker definition object.

Thanks,

Hector

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 Hector Centeno wrote:
 IOhannes,

 Thanks again. But then why if I open the example VBAP patches there is
 no error message event though there is no ls_setup file in the
 directory?

 the short answer:
  because you are doing something wrong (and everything on the system
 actually works as it is supposed to)

 the long answer:

 i really don't know. i never used vbap.

 however, i now had a short look:

 there is no mention of ls_setup anywhere in the sources.
 i don't get an error if i instantiate either the help-patches (apart
 from [matrix~] being no longer part of zexy but rather of iemmatrix and
 renamed to [mtx_*~] (or [mtx_mul~] if you have problems with libraries))

 you must be generating the error somewhere else.
 try to isolate the object that complains and let us know what you have
 found.
 (hans might well be right with his assumption that you were failing to
 instantiate an object (ls_setup could be the setup-function of an
 object [ls]); the way you described the problem does not give any hints
 in this direction).


 fgamsrd
 IOhannes


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[PD] PD sound quality question

2009-05-23 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello,

I'm in the process of learning more about PD so I've been checking
some of the patches that are part of Johannes Kreidler's excellent
tutorial Programming Electronic Music in Pd (
http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ ). Today I was playing a bit with the
sampler-big.pd which is a sound sampler with adjustable speed and
start/end points. I noticed that as I made playback speed slower I
started to hear quite noticeable aliasing. The patch uses [tabread4~]
for reading the sound array. So my questions are: is this aliasing a
particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? Is
there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed.


Cheers,

Hector

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Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN

2009-05-22 Thread Hector Centeno
Thanks hc,

How do I achieve that? What is the order for loading things in PD?
Sorry if I'm asking for something too obvious, I haven't used PD that
much. In my patch [vbap] is inside a sub-patch and
[define_loudspeakers] in another sub-patch and both within the main
patch. I tried putting the second inside the first but that didn't
help.

Regards,

Hector


On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 You probably have to load the [vbap] object before the [define_loudspeakers]
 object.

 .hc

 On May 21, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Hello,

 I just built pd-extended from SVN and vbap fails to work since it's
 looking for a file named ls_setup which is not installed. Do I have to
 create such file? I used vbap before and I don't remember having to
 deal with this so I guess is part of the new changes.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version.  It was
 0.99
 now its 1.0.3.  The Pd code ended up being too different and I didn't
 have
 the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I tried to
 track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where they
 made sense.  But basically, I ended up porting the Max/MSP 1.0.3 sources
 from scratch.

 There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and this Pd
 port:

 - a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided no
 functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not
 include that in the Pd port.

 - the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets
 (azimuth
 and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread).

 Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN:


 http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/

 .hc



 

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Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN

2009-05-21 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello,

I just built pd-extended from SVN and vbap fails to work since it's
looking for a file named ls_setup which is not installed. Do I have to
create such file? I used vbap before and I don't remember having to
deal with this so I guess is part of the new changes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version.  It was 0.99
 now its 1.0.3.  The Pd code ended up being too different and I didn't have
 the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I tried to
 track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where they
 made sense.  But basically, I ended up porting the Max/MSP 1.0.3 sources
 from scratch.

 There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and this Pd
 port:

 - a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided no
 functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not
 include that in the Pd port.

 - the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets (azimuth
 and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread).

 Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN:

 http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-15 Thread Hector Centeno
Thanks to all for your replies,

I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and
started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find
anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5
and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for
providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to
try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

Cheers,

Hector


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:

 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

 The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font then
 it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text objects,
 you'll see the default location is:

 imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType);

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
 left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
 out of the object boxes.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
 with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
 properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
 the terminal:

 can't find package base64

 Thanks,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
       version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
       install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text
 rendering!
       install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one
 to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build
 farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good
 if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the
 whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co

 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
 h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on
 it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc



 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-15 Thread Hector Centeno
OK, I got the font size fixed! If I change the foreach (at line 3944)
in pd.tk from:

foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {

to:

foreach i {4 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24} {

The text stays withing the object boxes. Exactly what is happening
here I don't know. I have to analyze further to find out what's going
on.

Cheers,

Hector


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I am guessing that you could do some font sizing like is in pd-devel 0.41.
  Check out pdtk_pd_startup in pd/src/u_main.tk.  There you can find the font
 measuring code.  Basically, it is mapping a font to Pd's font size numbers:

    foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {
        set font [format {{%s} %d %s} $fontname_from_pd $i
 $fontweight_from_pd]
        set pd_fontlist [linsert $pd_fontlist 10 $font]
        set width0 [font measure  $font x]
        set height0 [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]
        set fontlist [concat $fontlist $i [font measure  $font x] \
                          [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]]
    }


 .hc

 On May 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Thanks to all for your replies,

 I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and
 started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find
 anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5
 and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for
 providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to
 try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:


 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small

 The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font
 then
 it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text
 objects,
 you'll see the default location is:


 imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType);

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
 left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
 out of the object boxes.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
 with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
 properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
 the terminal:

 can't find package base64

 Thanks,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
      version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text
 rendering!
      install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text
 rendering!
      install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
 h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to
 help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have
 one
 to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build
 farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good
 if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the
 whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co


 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
packages.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
        version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1

2009-05-14 Thread Hector Centeno
base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems
left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking
out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even
 with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale
 properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in
 the terminal:

 can't find package base64

 Thanks,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that
 it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had
 to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems
 I'm having are:

 PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP
        version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr )
 error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)
 error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!
        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

 I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I
 have to copy them somewhere else?

 Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside
 the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

 Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short
 review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required
 packages.

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:

 I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help
 someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to
 offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm
 are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you
 documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

 You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian
 http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

 As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole
 thing from svn easily enough:

 svn co
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41

 .hc

 On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

 Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using
 OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does
 anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are
 not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
 OpenSuse in the building farms?

 Cheers,

 Hector


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:

 Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it,
 report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!
  You
 can see some info about the included changes here:

 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

 Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

 .hc


 

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Re: [PD] delete node in tof [breakpoints]

2008-12-18 Thread Hector Centeno
Quite obvious actually... I remember trying that before without
success but now it works... anyways, thanks!

Hector


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 00:14 -0500, Hector Centeno wrote:
 Hello,

 I was wondering if anyone knows how to delete a node (point) in the
 [breakpoints] object form the tof library. I checked the source code
 and it seems that this option is not implemented but maybe I missed
 something. Also I couldn't find any mention of this external in the
 pd-list archives, is there a more popular alternative? I'm basically
 using it to create breakpoint data that overwrites tables in a Csound
 orchestra running inside a [csoundapi~] object.

 You click on the point you want to delete and hit 'backspace'.

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Re: [PD] vbap and matrix external

2007-08-29 Thread Hector Centeno
Also, I was wondering if anyone has a link to a manual page for the old
[matrix] and [matrix~] so I can understand whats going on and see how to
replace them with the newer ones.

Thanks!

Hector


On 8/29/07, Hector Centeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Kevin,

 Thank you for your response. Does that mean I have to change the patch (
 vbapdemo.pd) to substitute the [matrix] and [matrix~] by [mtx_mu] and
 [mtx_mu~]? Do they work the same or that means I would have to do further
 changes?

 Thanks!



 On 8/28/07, Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Hector,
 
  As far as I remember, the correct one to use is [mtx_mul] and
  [mtx_mul~]; as IOhannes told me, [matrix]  etc is deprecated if I
  remember correctly.  The correct ones are from the excellent iemmatrix
  library.
 
  I think the vbap directory is the more recent one which should be
  Ville Pulkki's work.  Have a look at the documentation in there.
 
  Hope this helps,
  Kevin
 
 
  On 8/28/07, Hector Centeno  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I'm trying to get vbap working using Linux Fedora 7/Planet CCRMA. I'm
  using
   the Planet's packages which are version 0.39.2. First I found vbap in
  two
   different places:
  
   /usr/lib/pd/extra/vbap
   /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee
  
   What is the difference?
   So I tried with the vbap directory. When trying to load the demo I
  struggled
   with finding matrix and matrix~. There are externals named like this
  in
   different directories:
  
   /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/matrix~.pd_linux
   /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix.pd_linux
   /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix~.pd_linux
   /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/matrix~.pd_linux
  
   Does anyone know which ones are the right ones to use? I managed to
  get the
   demo loaded and running using the matrix in flatspace and matrix~ in
  cyclone
   but I can't get any audio output. I'm fairly new to PD so some help
  would be
   appreciated.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Hector
  
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[PD] looking for explanation about deprecated [matrix] and [matrix~] objects

2007-08-29 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello,

I've been searching the documentation and the web for the manual pages of
the, already deprecated, [matrix] and [matrix~] objects. I was wondering if
anyone could quickly tell me what are they for (matrix multiplication, I
think), what goes in and out the inlets and outlets, and the init
parameters. Or maybe a link to a manual page.

Thank you,


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[PD] vbap and matrix external

2007-08-28 Thread Hector Centeno
Hi,

I'm trying to get vbap working using Linux Fedora 7/Planet CCRMA. I'm using
the Planet's packages which are version 0.39.2. First I found vbap in two
different places:

/usr/lib/pd/extra/vbap
/usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee

What is the difference?
So I tried with the vbap directory. When trying to load the demo I struggled
with finding matrix and matrix~. There are externals named like this in
different directories:

/usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/matrix~.pd_linux
/usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix.pd_linux
/usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix~.pd_linux
/usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/matrix~.pd_linux

Does anyone know which ones are the right ones to use? I managed to get the
demo loaded and running using the matrix in flatspace and matrix~ in cyclone
but I can't get any audio output. I'm fairly new to PD so some help would be
appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: [PD] vbap and matrix external

2007-08-28 Thread Hector Centeno
Hello Kevin,

Thank you for your response. Does that mean I have to change the patch (
vbapdemo.pd) to substitute the [matrix] and [matrix~] by [mtx_mu] and
[mtx_mu~]? Do they work the same or that means I would have to do further
changes?

Thanks!



On 8/28/07, Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Hector,

 As far as I remember, the correct one to use is [mtx_mul] and
 [mtx_mul~]; as IOhannes told me, [matrix]  etc is deprecated if I
 remember correctly.  The correct ones are from the excellent iemmatrix
 library.

 I think the vbap directory is the more recent one which should be
 Ville Pulkki's work.  Have a look at the documentation in there.

 Hope this helps,
 Kevin


 On 8/28/07, Hector Centeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying to get vbap working using Linux Fedora 7/Planet CCRMA. I'm
 using
  the Planet's packages which are version 0.39.2. First I found vbap in
 two
  different places:
 
  /usr/lib/pd/extra/vbap
  /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee
 
  What is the difference?
  So I tried with the vbap directory. When trying to load the demo I
 struggled
  with finding matrix and matrix~. There are externals named like this in
  different directories:
 
  /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/matrix~.pd_linux
  /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix.pd_linux
  /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix~.pd_linux
  /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/matrix~.pd_linux
 
  Does anyone know which ones are the right ones to use? I managed to get
 the
  demo loaded and running using the matrix in flatspace and matrix~ in
 cyclone
  but I can't get any audio output. I'm fairly new to PD so some help
 would be
  appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Hector
 
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[PD] looking for good quality PV

2006-11-01 Thread Hector Centeno

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knows of an external for good quality Phase
Vocoder analysis and re-synthesis. I've tried the fft example included
in PD and the quality is not really that good for extreme time
stretching (which I'm interested in doing). I've been using the PVOC
opcodes from Csound, which are of very good quality, but I would like
to know if there is anything available for PD with similar quality. I
know that I could modify the FFT example for making it sound better
but honestly I'm not that proficient in DSP.

Thank you!


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