Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything about Windows. It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. So I think this is the release. Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker This release candidate includes: * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and sigpack * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some really flaky audio cards in Windows land * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have tested in the past 7 years works with that KNOWN BUGS Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there. - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2 package for Fedora available at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Which package is that? Did you try this release? .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything about Windows. It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. So I think this is the release. Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker This release candidate includes: * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and sigpack * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some really flaky audio cards in Windows land * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have tested in the past 7 years works with that KNOWN BUGS Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there. - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this: set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings. Cheers, Hector p.s. I attached a screenshot of the way it looks with set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package included in Fedora. - could you post a screenshot? - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed? - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996: if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} { set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 } else { set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36 } .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2 package for Fedora available at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Which package is that? Did you try this release? .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything about Windows. It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. So I think this is the release. Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker This release candidate includes: * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and sigpack * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some really flaky audio cards in Windows land * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have tested in the past 7 years works with that KNOWN BUGS Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there. - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams attachment: screenshot1.png___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3. Cheers, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this: set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings. Cheers, Hector p.s. I attached a screenshot of the way it looks with set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ah, I thought that Fedora Package might have meant some official package included in Fedora. - could you post a screenshot? - do you have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono installed? - in /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk, do you have this code around line 3996: if {$::tcl_version eq 8.5} { set sizelist 5 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 } else { set sizelist 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36 } .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2 package for Fedora available at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Which package is that? Did you try this release? .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything about Windows. It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. So I think this is the release. Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker This release candidate includes: * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and sigpack * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some really flaky audio cards in Windows land * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have tested in the past 7 years works with that KNOWN BUGS Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there. - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
IOhannes, Thanks again. But then why if I open the example VBAP patches there is no error message event though there is no ls_setup file in the directory? Cheers, Hector On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:59 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Thanks hc, How do I achieve that? What is the order for loading things in PD? the order of loading is the order of occurence. first, all libraries in your pdsettings are loaded in the order they appear therein. then all libraries specified via the cmdline are loaded (in the order you specified them). finally, libraries are loaded within patches: 1st libs specified with [declare] (and probably [import]) are loaded; lastly the remaining libraries are loaded whenever an object of their name occurs first. Sorry if I'm asking for something too obvious, I haven't used PD that much. In my patch [vbap] is inside a sub-patch and [define_loudspeakers] in another sub-patch and both within the main patch. I tried putting the second inside the first but that didn't help. so: if you haven't loaded [vbap] yet, make sure that an object [vbap] is _created_ before [define_loudspeakers]. (just Ctrl-X-Ctrl-Z the sub-patch containing [define_loudspeakers] should be sufficient) having said all that: your problem seems to be that [define_loudspeakers] cannot read a file named ls_setup, which according to its name might define the actual rigging information for your loudspeaker setup. since the object itself loads fine, there seems to be no problem with needing [vbap] at all. your initial assumption that you have to create a file ls_setup seems to be quite right. gfmadrs IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
IOhannes, I got it working by doing a ctrl-x and ctrl-z with the sub-patch that contains the loudspeaker definition object. Thanks, Hector On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: IOhannes, Thanks again. But then why if I open the example VBAP patches there is no error message event though there is no ls_setup file in the directory? the short answer: because you are doing something wrong (and everything on the system actually works as it is supposed to) the long answer: i really don't know. i never used vbap. however, i now had a short look: there is no mention of ls_setup anywhere in the sources. i don't get an error if i instantiate either the help-patches (apart from [matrix~] being no longer part of zexy but rather of iemmatrix and renamed to [mtx_*~] (or [mtx_mul~] if you have problems with libraries)) you must be generating the error somewhere else. try to isolate the object that complains and let us know what you have found. (hans might well be right with his assumption that you were failing to instantiate an object (ls_setup could be the setup-function of an object [ls]); the way you described the problem does not give any hints in this direction). fgamsrd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD sound quality question
Hello, I'm in the process of learning more about PD so I've been checking some of the patches that are part of Johannes Kreidler's excellent tutorial Programming Electronic Music in Pd ( http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ ). Today I was playing a bit with the sampler-big.pd which is a sound sampler with adjustable speed and start/end points. I noticed that as I made playback speed slower I started to hear quite noticeable aliasing. The patch uses [tabread4~] for reading the sound array. So my questions are: is this aliasing a particular problem of my system or is this an expected result? Is there anyway of avoiding it? I could post the patch here if needed. Cheers, Hector ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
Thanks hc, How do I achieve that? What is the order for loading things in PD? Sorry if I'm asking for something too obvious, I haven't used PD that much. In my patch [vbap] is inside a sub-patch and [define_loudspeakers] in another sub-patch and both within the main patch. I tried putting the second inside the first but that didn't help. Regards, Hector On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You probably have to load the [vbap] object before the [define_loudspeakers] object. .hc On May 21, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Hello, I just built pd-extended from SVN and vbap fails to work since it's looking for a file named ls_setup which is not installed. Do I have to create such file? I used vbap before and I don't remember having to deal with this so I guess is part of the new changes. Cheers, Hector On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version. It was 0.99 now its 1.0.3. The Pd code ended up being too different and I didn't have the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I tried to track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where they made sense. But basically, I ended up porting the Max/MSP 1.0.3 sources from scratch. There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and this Pd port: - a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided no functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not include that in the Pd port. - the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets (azimuth and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread). Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/ .hc All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
Hello, I just built pd-extended from SVN and vbap fails to work since it's looking for a file named ls_setup which is not installed. Do I have to create such file? I used vbap before and I don't remember having to deal with this so I guess is part of the new changes. Cheers, Hector On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version. It was 0.99 now its 1.0.3. The Pd code ended up being too different and I didn't have the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I tried to track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where they made sense. But basically, I ended up porting the Max/MSP 1.0.3 sources from scratch. There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and this Pd port: - a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided no functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not include that in the Pd port. - the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets (azimuth and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread). Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/ .hc All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
Thanks to all for your replies, I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5 and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking? Cheers, Hector On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small The pidip error is really just a warning. I think you can set a font then it'll work. Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text objects, you'll see the default location is: imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType); .hc On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking out of the object boxes. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal: can't find package base64 Thanks, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are: PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else? Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes. Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine. Do you have one to offer? It doesn't need to be fast, just working. Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :) Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41 .hc On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms? Cheers, Hector On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! You can see some info about the included changes here: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
OK, I got the font size fixed! If I change the foreach (at line 3944) in pd.tk from: foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} { to: foreach i {4 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24} { The text stays withing the object boxes. Exactly what is happening here I don't know. I have to analyze further to find out what's going on. Cheers, Hector On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I am guessing that you could do some font sizing like is in pd-devel 0.41. Check out pdtk_pd_startup in pd/src/u_main.tk. There you can find the font measuring code. Basically, it is mapping a font to Pd's font size numbers: foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} { set font [format {{%s} %d %s} $fontname_from_pd $i $fontweight_from_pd] set pd_fontlist [linsert $pd_fontlist 10 $font] set width0 [font measure $font x] set height0 [lindex [font metrics $font] 5] set fontlist [concat $fontlist $i [font measure $font x] \ [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]] } .hc On May 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Hector Centeno wrote: Thanks to all for your replies, I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5 and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking? Cheers, Hector On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small The pidip error is really just a warning. I think you can set a font then it'll work. Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text objects, you'll see the default location is: imlib_add_path_to_font_path(/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType); .hc On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking out of the object boxes. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal: can't find package base64 Thanks, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are: PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else? Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes. Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine. Do you have one to offer? It doesn't need to be fast, just working. Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :) Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41 .hc On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms? Cheers, Hector On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! You can see some info about the included changes here: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are: PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else? Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes. Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine. Do you have one to offer? It doesn't need to be fast, just working. Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :) Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41 .hc On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms? Cheers, Hector On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! You can see some info about the included changes here: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal: can't find package base64 Thanks, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are: PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else? Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes. Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine. Do you have one to offer? It doesn't need to be fast, just working. Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :) Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41 .hc On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms? Cheers, Hector On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! You can see some info about the included changes here: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking out of the object boxes. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal: can't find package base64 Thanks, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are: PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( ydego...@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else? Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes. Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages. Cheers, Hector On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine. Do you have one to offer? It doesn't need to be fast, just working. Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :) Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.41 .hc On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms? Cheers, Hector On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! You can see some info about the included changes here: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] delete node in tof [breakpoints]
Quite obvious actually... I remember trying that before without success but now it works... anyways, thanks! Hector On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 00:14 -0500, Hector Centeno wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how to delete a node (point) in the [breakpoints] object form the tof library. I checked the source code and it seems that this option is not implemented but maybe I missed something. Also I couldn't find any mention of this external in the pd-list archives, is there a more popular alternative? I'm basically using it to create breakpoint data that overwrites tables in a Csound orchestra running inside a [csoundapi~] object. You click on the point you want to delete and hit 'backspace'. Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiebullock ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap and matrix external
Also, I was wondering if anyone has a link to a manual page for the old [matrix] and [matrix~] so I can understand whats going on and see how to replace them with the newer ones. Thanks! Hector On 8/29/07, Hector Centeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Kevin, Thank you for your response. Does that mean I have to change the patch ( vbapdemo.pd) to substitute the [matrix] and [matrix~] by [mtx_mu] and [mtx_mu~]? Do they work the same or that means I would have to do further changes? Thanks! On 8/28/07, Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hector, As far as I remember, the correct one to use is [mtx_mul] and [mtx_mul~]; as IOhannes told me, [matrix] etc is deprecated if I remember correctly. The correct ones are from the excellent iemmatrix library. I think the vbap directory is the more recent one which should be Ville Pulkki's work. Have a look at the documentation in there. Hope this helps, Kevin On 8/28/07, Hector Centeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get vbap working using Linux Fedora 7/Planet CCRMA. I'm using the Planet's packages which are version 0.39.2. First I found vbap in two different places: /usr/lib/pd/extra/vbap /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee What is the difference? So I tried with the vbap directory. When trying to load the demo I struggled with finding matrix and matrix~. There are externals named like this in different directories: /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/matrix~.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix~.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/matrix~.pd_linux Does anyone know which ones are the right ones to use? I managed to get the demo loaded and running using the matrix in flatspace and matrix~ in cyclone but I can't get any audio output. I'm fairly new to PD so some help would be appreciated. Cheers, Hector ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- === http://www.hcenteno.net -- === http://www.hcenteno.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] looking for explanation about deprecated [matrix] and [matrix~] objects
Hello, I've been searching the documentation and the web for the manual pages of the, already deprecated, [matrix] and [matrix~] objects. I was wondering if anyone could quickly tell me what are they for (matrix multiplication, I think), what goes in and out the inlets and outlets, and the init parameters. Or maybe a link to a manual page. Thank you, Hector ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] vbap and matrix external
Hi, I'm trying to get vbap working using Linux Fedora 7/Planet CCRMA. I'm using the Planet's packages which are version 0.39.2. First I found vbap in two different places: /usr/lib/pd/extra/vbap /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee What is the difference? So I tried with the vbap directory. When trying to load the demo I struggled with finding matrix and matrix~. There are externals named like this in different directories: /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/matrix~.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix~.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/matrix~.pd_linux Does anyone know which ones are the right ones to use? I managed to get the demo loaded and running using the matrix in flatspace and matrix~ in cyclone but I can't get any audio output. I'm fairly new to PD so some help would be appreciated. Cheers, Hector ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap and matrix external
Hello Kevin, Thank you for your response. Does that mean I have to change the patch ( vbapdemo.pd) to substitute the [matrix] and [matrix~] by [mtx_mu] and [mtx_mu~]? Do they work the same or that means I would have to do further changes? Thanks! On 8/28/07, Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hector, As far as I remember, the correct one to use is [mtx_mul] and [mtx_mul~]; as IOhannes told me, [matrix] etc is deprecated if I remember correctly. The correct ones are from the excellent iemmatrix library. I think the vbap directory is the more recent one which should be Ville Pulkki's work. Have a look at the documentation in there. Hope this helps, Kevin On 8/28/07, Hector Centeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get vbap working using Linux Fedora 7/Planet CCRMA. I'm using the Planet's packages which are version 0.39.2. First I found vbap in two different places: /usr/lib/pd/extra/vbap /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee What is the difference? So I tried with the vbap directory. When trying to load the demo I struggled with finding matrix and matrix~. There are externals named like this in different directories: /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/matrix~.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/matrix~.pd_linux /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/matrix~.pd_linux Does anyone know which ones are the right ones to use? I managed to get the demo loaded and running using the matrix in flatspace and matrix~ in cyclone but I can't get any audio output. I'm fairly new to PD so some help would be appreciated. Cheers, Hector ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- === http://www.hcenteno.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] looking for good quality PV
Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows of an external for good quality Phase Vocoder analysis and re-synthesis. I've tried the fft example included in PD and the quality is not really that good for extreme time stretching (which I'm interested in doing). I've been using the PVOC opcodes from Csound, which are of very good quality, but I would like to know if there is anything available for PD with similar quality. I know that I could modify the FFT example for making it sound better but honestly I'm not that proficient in DSP. Thank you! Hector ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list