Re: [PD] [PD-announce] earGram: concatenate sound synthesis/generative music
Thanks Gilberto! sounds great. Will take a look,... here at Goldsmiths we are developing time-series analysis and statistical methods for Pd (and other software), that's the reason of my interest. best wishes, M -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Gilberto Bernardes wrote: > Dear Marco > > thanks for your feedback. The dimensionality reduction algorithms are not > externals...simply abstraction, so, I guess you will not find any trouble > running it on Linux. If you run it on pd-extended, I'm pretty sure you will > not need other any external libraries, with the exception of gridflow for > the computation of eigenvectors in PCA. > > Look into earGramv0.18>dependencies>abs you will find all abstractions > here, or just open the file _absOverview. > > There's a couple of solutions for dimensionality reduction more or less > complex such as: > self-organised maps (SOM) > PCA > haar > dct > random projection > star centroid > and star coordinates (the only applied in earGram, actually) > > best, > Gilberto > > > 2013/11/6 Marco Donnarumma > >> Hi Gilberto, >> >> thanks for sharing your work! >> >> I'm interested in looking at your dimensionality reduction objects, but >> I'm a Linux user. Any plan to port your work to Linux? >> >> thanks! >> best wishes, >> M >> >> -- >> Marco Donnarumma >> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. >> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. >> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London >> ~ >> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com >> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com >> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Gilberto Bernardes > > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I’m working on a project for my PhD that recombines audio segments >>> according to pre-defined generative methods. For those familiarised with >>> concatenative sound synthesis, earGram reformulates the notion of unit >>> selection algorithms to encompass generative music strategies. It relies >>> heavily on timbreID a known library for PD by William Brent. >>> >>> >>> So, here's the website that hosts the project: >>> >>> https://sites.google.com/site/eargram/ >>> >>> You can find project examples in the download section as well. P >>> >>> >>> In addition there are plenty of abstractions that may interest you, in >>> particular clustering and dimensionality reduction algorithms... >>> >>> As you can guess, I would like to get feedbacks and advises. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Gilberto Bernardes >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-announce mailing list >>> pd-annou...@iem.at >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >>> >>> >> > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] earGram: concatenate sound synthesis/generative music
Dear Marco thanks for your feedback. The dimensionality reduction algorithms are not externals...simply abstraction, so, I guess you will not find any trouble running it on Linux. If you run it on pd-extended, I'm pretty sure you will not need other any external libraries, with the exception of gridflow for the computation of eigenvectors in PCA. Look into earGramv0.18>dependencies>abs you will find all abstractions here, or just open the file _absOverview. There's a couple of solutions for dimensionality reduction more or less complex such as: self-organised maps (SOM) PCA haar dct random projection star centroid and star coordinates (the only applied in earGram, actually) best, Gilberto 2013/11/6 Marco Donnarumma > Hi Gilberto, > > thanks for sharing your work! > > I'm interested in looking at your dimensionality reduction objects, but > I'm a Linux user. Any plan to port your work to Linux? > > thanks! > best wishes, > M > > -- > Marco Donnarumma > New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. > Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. > Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London > ~ > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com > Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com > Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Gilberto Bernardes > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I’m working on a project for my PhD that recombines audio segments according >> to pre-defined generative methods. For those familiarised with concatenative >> sound synthesis, earGram reformulates the notion of unit selection >> algorithms to encompass generative music strategies. It relies heavily on >> timbreID a known library for PD by William Brent. >> >> >> So, here's the website that hosts the project: >> >> https://sites.google.com/site/eargram/ >> >> You can find project examples in the download section as well. P >> >> >> In addition there are plenty of abstractions that may interest you, in >> particular clustering and dimensionality reduction algorithms... >> >> As you can guess, I would like to get feedbacks and advises. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Gilberto Bernardes >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-announce mailing list >> pd-annou...@iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> >> > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] earGram: concatenate sound synthesis/generative music
Hi Gilberto, For me this is a really exciting and interesting project. Congratulations on the great work, I look forward to reading through your publications. best, Jamie On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Gilberto Bernardes wrote: Hi, I’m working on a project for my PhD that recombines audio segments according to pre-defined generative methods. For those familiarised with concatenative sound synthesis, earGram reformulates the notion of unit selection algorithms to encompass generative music strategies. It relies heavily on timbreID a known library for PD by William Brent. So, here's the website that hosts the project: https://sites.google.com/site/eargram/ You can find project examples in the download section as well. P In addition there are plenty of abstractions that may interest you, in particular clustering and dimensionality reduction algorithms... As you can guess, I would like to get feedbacks and advises. Best, Gilberto Bernardes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] earGram: concatenate sound synthesis/generative music
Hi Gilberto, thanks for sharing your work! I'm interested in looking at your dimensionality reduction objects, but I'm a Linux user. Any plan to port your work to Linux? thanks! best wishes, M -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Gilberto Bernardes wrote: > Hi, > > I’m working on a project for my PhD that recombines audio segments according > to pre-defined generative methods. For those familiarised with concatenative > sound synthesis, earGram reformulates the notion of unit selection algorithms > to encompass generative music strategies. It relies heavily on timbreID a > known library for PD by William Brent. > > > So, here's the website that hosts the project: > > https://sites.google.com/site/eargram/ > > You can find project examples in the download section as well. P > > > In addition there are plenty of abstractions that may interest you, in > particular clustering and dimensionality reduction algorithms... > > As you can guess, I would like to get feedbacks and advises. > > > Best, > > Gilberto Bernardes > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > pd-annou...@iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] earGram: concatenate sound synthesis/generative music
Hi, First of all the interface is really well done, it's not easy to build something like this in pd. I am trying to run it on linux / 64bit. I don't have bark and bark~ with the linux version of http://puredata.info/downloads/timbreid? Trying to use barkSpec I get: Bark spacing must be between 0.02 and 10.0 Barks. barkSpec: no method for 'thresh' barkSpec: no method for 'mask' barkSpec: no method for 'debounce' barkSpec: no method for 'filter_range' barkSpec: no method for 'minvel' barkSpec: no method for 'loudness' and barkSpec~: no method for 'thresh' barkSpec~: no method for 'mask' barkSpec~: no method for 'debounce' barkSpec~: no method for 'filter_range' I have a bunch of warnings, i guess it is normal: coll: finished reading 12 lines from text file 'data/psi-functions.txt' warning (coll): no coll file '/home/psc/Downloads/earGramv0.18/earGramv0.18/dependencies/abs/psi-functions' nearestPoint: dimensionality: 2. initCentroids 9 0 10 1 (+->canvas) connection failed dumpCentroids 0 0 3 1 (+->canvas) connection failed dumpOutput 4 0 3 1 (receive->canvas) connection failed distBetweenPts 12 0 6 1 (receive->canvas) connection failed distBetweenPts 12 0 5 1 (receive->canvas) connection failed dbscan.pd 20 0 18 1 (receive->canvas) connection failed warning (coll): no coll file '/home/psc/Downloads/earGramv0.18/earGramv0.18/1002-liveInPresets' Also it would be nice if you could record your screen, making a project from scratch (a demo). Cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] earGram: concatenate sound synthesis/generative music
Hi, I’m working on a project for my PhD that recombines audio segments according to pre-defined generative methods. For those familiarised with concatenative sound synthesis, earGram reformulates the notion of unit selection algorithms to encompass generative music strategies. It relies heavily on timbreID a known library for PD by William Brent. So, here's the website that hosts the project: https://sites.google.com/site/eargram/ You can find project examples in the download section as well. P In addition there are plenty of abstractions that may interest you, in particular clustering and dimensionality reduction algorithms... As you can guess, I would like to get feedbacks and advises. Best, Gilberto Bernardes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
