Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-28 Thread Jack
It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and
[pmpd3d] like on MSD objects.
The 54_pmpd_wave.pd example doesn't work here.
[pmpd] seems to have a problem.
Do test and interaction objects work with [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d]
masses ?
++

Jack



Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 19:04 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :
 hello,
 i've made a new pmpd version.
 There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
 this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
 there is few differences anyway :
 - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
 - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
 - there is now a damping associate with each masses
 - there are more messages to get simulation data
 
 I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be 
 maintained.
 
 help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.
 
 Cyrille
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-28 Thread cyrille henry



Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit :

It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and
[pmpd3d] like on MSD objects.

it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it.
i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull.


The 54_pmpd_wave.pd example doesn't work here.
[pmpd] seems to have a problem.

i correct a problem after the official annonce. could you make sur you have the 
last version (svn update)
thanks
and tell me if that solve the pb.


Do test and interaction objects work with [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d]
masses ?

no

from a technical point of view, they could be working. but pmpd* are really 
MSD* clone.
and the philosophies is a bit different.
you can very easilly make 100 connections. that should replace interactor 
objects.

but yes, pmpd have a wider range of interactor shape, so it may be interesting 
someday to make them work.

++
c



++

Jack



Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 19:04 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :

hello,
i've made a new pmpd version.
There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
there is few differences anyway :
- few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
- there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
- there is now a damping associate with each masses
- there are more messages to get simulation data

I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained.

help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

Cyrille

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-28 Thread Jack
Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :
 
 Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit :
  It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and
  [pmpd3d] like on MSD objects.
 it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it.
 i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull.
Yep :)
It is useful because you can see in the console the masses created with
their id and links created between two masses with their id. So it is
useful to debug.
 
  The 54_pmpd_wave.pd example doesn't work here.
  [pmpd] seems to have a problem.
 i correct a problem after the official annonce. could you make sur you have 
 the last version (svn update)
 thanks
 and tell me if that solve the pb.
It seems it doesn't solve the problem because i compiled pmpd today
(sources from svn) :
$ svn up
À la révision 14977.
 
  Do test and interaction objects work with [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d]
  masses ?
 no
 
 from a technical point of view, they could be working. but pmpd* are really 
 MSD* clone.
 and the philosophies is a bit different.
OK.
 you can very easilly make 100 connections. that should replace interactor 
 objects.
I tried to make a segment (like [iSeg]) of several masses in the past
but it was not a good solution. I guess the best solution is to test
position of each mass and then add force on it.
 
 but yes, pmpd have a wider range of interactor shape, so it may be 
 interesting someday to make them work.
Would be nice !
++

Jack


 
 ++
 c
 
 
  ++
 
  Jack
 
 
 
  Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 19:04 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :
  hello,
  i've made a new pmpd version.
  There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
  this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
  there is few differences anyway :
  - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
  - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
  - there is now a damping associate with each masses
  - there are more messages to get simulation data
 
  I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be 
  maintained.
 
  help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.
 
  Cyrille
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-28 Thread Nicolas Montgermont



Le 28/02/11 14:54, Jack a écrit :

Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :

Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit :

It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and
[pmpd3d] like on MSD objects.

it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it.
i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull.

Yep :)
It is useful because you can see in the console the masses created with
their id and links created between two masses with their id. So it is
useful to debug.


you have a [print( message that prints directly in the console.
see help patch :)
n
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-28 Thread cyrille henry



Le 28/02/2011 14:54, Jack a écrit :

Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :


Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit :

It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and
[pmpd3d] like on MSD objects.

it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it.
i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull.

Yep :)
It is useful because you can see in the console the masses created with
their id and links created between two masses with their id. So it is
useful to debug.

use the print message for this.




The 54_pmpd_wave.pd example doesn't work here.
[pmpd] seems to have a problem.

i correct a problem after the official annonce. could you make sur you have the 
last version (svn update)
thanks
and tell me if that solve the pb.

It seems it doesn't solve the problem because i compiled pmpd today
(sources from svn) :
$ svn up
À la révision 14977.

hum, this example work here.
what is exactly the problem for you?




Do test and interaction objects work with [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d]
masses ?

no

from a technical point of view, they could be working. but pmpd* are really 
MSD* clone.
and the philosophies is a bit different.

OK.

you can very easilly make 100 connections. that should replace interactor 
objects.

I tried to make a segment (like [iSeg]) of several masses in the past
but it was not a good solution. I guess the best solution is to test
position of each mass and then add force on it.


but yes, pmpd have a wider range of interactor shape, so it may be interesting 
someday to make them work.

Would be nice !

that's more work that i did not planed to do yet.
c


++

Jack




++
c



++

Jack



Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 19:04 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :

hello,
i've made a new pmpd version.
There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
there is few differences anyway :
- few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
- there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
- there is now a damping associate with each masses
- there are more messages to get simulation data

I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained.

help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

Cyrille

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-28 Thread Jack
Ah, good !
++

Jack



Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 15:12 +0100, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
 
 Le 28/02/11 14:54, Jack a écrit :
  Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit :
  Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit :
  It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and
  [pmpd3d] like on MSD objects.
  it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it.
  i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull.
  Yep :)
  It is useful because you can see in the console the masses created with
  their id and links created between two masses with their id. So it is
  useful to debug.
 
 you have a [print( message that prints directly in the console.
 see help patch :)
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-25 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Where do I download this?


On 2/24/11 3:48 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/develop
c


Le 24/02/2011 21:33, ALAN BROOKER a écrit :
 Hi Cyrille

 Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this

 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net  wrote:
 hello,
 i've made a new pmpd version.
 There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
 this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are
compatible.
 there is few differences anyway :
 - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
 - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
 - there is now a damping associate with each masses
 - there are more messages to get simulation data

 I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
 maintained.

 help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

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[PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread cyrille henry

hello,
i've made a new pmpd version.
There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
there is few differences anyway :
- few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
- there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
- there is now a damping associate with each masses
- there are more messages to get simulation data

I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained.

help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Cyrille

Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
 hello,
 i've made a new pmpd version.
 There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
 this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
 there is few differences anyway :
 - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
 - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
 - there is now a damping associate with each masses
 - there are more messages to get simulation data

 I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
 maintained.

 help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

 Cyrille

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread cyrille henry

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/develop
c


Le 24/02/2011 21:33, ALAN BROOKER a écrit :

Hi Cyrille

Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net  wrote:

hello,
i've made a new pmpd version.
There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
there is few differences anyway :
- few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
- there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
- there is now a damping associate with each masses
- there are more messages to get simulation data

I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
maintained.

help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

Cyrille

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I guess that's an RTFM ;)  You could have also just typed 'svn info' and
paste the direct URL into the email.

There is a pmpd page on the downloads page, that would be a great place
to put the tarball:

http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/pmpd

.hc

On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:48 +0100, cyrille henry wrote:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/develop
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 Le 24/02/2011 21:33, ALAN BROOKER a écrit :
  Hi Cyrille
 
  Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this
 
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net  wrote:
  hello,
  i've made a new pmpd version.
  There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
  this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
  there is few differences anyway :
  - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
  - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
  - there is now a damping associate with each masses
  - there are more messages to get simulation data
 
  I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
  maintained.
 
  help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.
 
  Cyrille
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/rtfm.jpg
:)

Yeah I went to look at the downloads page  pmpd website -
thanks! i'll have a look there

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I guess that's an RTFM ;)  You could have also just typed 'svn info' and
 paste the direct URL into the email.

 There is a pmpd page on the downloads page, that would be a great place
 to put the tarball:

 http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/pmpd

 .hc

 On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:48 +0100, cyrille henry wrote:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/develop
 c


 Le 24/02/2011 21:33, ALAN BROOKER a écrit :
  Hi Cyrille
 
  Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this
 
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net  wrote:
  hello,
  i've made a new pmpd version.
  There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
  this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
  there is few differences anyway :
  - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
  - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
  - there is now a damping associate with each masses
  - there are more messages to get simulation data
 
  I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
  maintained.
 
  help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.
 
  Cyrille
 
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