Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-31 Thread Andre Schmidt
I didn't have any time to check that on my work Mac, and also forgot to
take the old Pismo with me. (I don't own a Mac)

But i definitely have Bitstream fonts installed on the iMac and i
installed X11 from the install DVD. It's then high likely that i got the
Bitstream fonts installed from other Open Source Software like Inkscape
or Gimp. (Don't remember what other Open Source Software i installed on
that machine)

But, what ever. The easiest way (for you and the users) could be what
you mentioned. Maybe even with to aliases, for /Library/Fonts and
~/Library/Fonts for the user to choose where to drag.

.andre

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 I think that is only the X11 from Darwin Ports, the X11 from Apple  
 does not include those fonts.  The font in question is Bitstream Vera  
 Sans Mono.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 29, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Andre Schmidt wrote:
 
  that would be the other osx way to install stuff ;)
 
  btw. are we talking about some particular font ?
  as the X11 package in OSX contains Bitstream  Co fonts, IIRC
 
  .andre
 
  On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 23:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  Maybe the Mac OS X .dmg should just include the font file and a link
  to the Fonts install folder...
 
  .hc
 
  On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Andre Schmidt wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  i got a new job as osx admin (among others) for a while now, and we
  are
  using a particular font as corporate design. so to ease my job
  for new
  osx clients, i made a .pkg that installs the fonts to /Library/ 
  Fonts.
  the fonts work rightaway without needing to restart or recache (just
  like windowsxp)
 
  if you dont want to install fonts to system library (eg. you dont  
  want
  to use admin rights) you can allso install the fonts to ~/Library/
  Fonts
 
  but the coolest would be to be able to use the fonts from inside
  the pd
  dir, without touching any system configs or dirs. but i dont know if
  thats possible.
  (like pdf uses embedded fonts, but i assume that pdf doesnt use the
  system font render system ?)
 
  cheers
  andre
 
 
 
  On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 00:38 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  Good point, Pd-extended is already using an installer on  
  Windows, so
  it can just install the font in the proper location, %SYSTEMROOT%
  \Fonts
 
  That leaves Mac OS X, which is tricky since it needs to be  
  inside the
  Mac OS X .app package.
 
  .hc
 
  On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:14 PM, David Powers wrote:
 
  On Windows installing the font with a batch file would be trivial.
 
  If you made some file Install.bat it could copy the font to the
  correct directory, and also run the registry script you currently
  use,
  at the same time.
 
  ~David
 
  On 3/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 27, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Patco wrote:
 
  Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
  The last step in sorting the cross-platform font issue is  
  finding
  a  way of including the font file for the Windows and Mac OS X
  packages.
 
  Anyone know how to make Tk look for fonts in a specific
  directory?
 
  .hc
 
  I don't think you can't do this but it's possible to put a
  specific
  font into the X server fonts directory, and doing a font mapping
  like in this neat tcl-tk application:
  http://xstick.e-artisan.org/
 
  also you might be interested by this:
  http://wiki.tcl.tk/470
 
  On Debian and Ubuntu, it'll be very easy to support since the
  Bitstream Vera Sans Mono font is in the package system.  I think
  that
  font is also included in any GNOME install, so that covers most
  GNU/
  Linux users.
 
  The hard part is Windows and Mac OS X.  We could require  
  people to
  install the font seperately, but I'd rather have it just work
  out of
  the box.
 
  .hc
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-29 Thread Andre Schmidt
that would be the other osx way to install stuff ;)

btw. are we talking about some particular font ?
as the X11 package in OSX contains Bitstream  Co fonts, IIRC

.andre

On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 23:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 Maybe the Mac OS X .dmg should just include the font file and a link  
 to the Fonts install folder...
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Andre Schmidt wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  i got a new job as osx admin (among others) for a while now, and we  
  are
  using a particular font as corporate design. so to ease my job  
  for new
  osx clients, i made a .pkg that installs the fonts to /Library/Fonts.
  the fonts work rightaway without needing to restart or recache (just
  like windowsxp)
 
  if you dont want to install fonts to system library (eg. you dont want
  to use admin rights) you can allso install the fonts to ~/Library/ 
  Fonts
 
  but the coolest would be to be able to use the fonts from inside  
  the pd
  dir, without touching any system configs or dirs. but i dont know if
  thats possible.
  (like pdf uses embedded fonts, but i assume that pdf doesnt use the
  system font render system ?)
 
  cheers
  andre
 
 
 
  On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 00:38 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  Good point, Pd-extended is already using an installer on Windows, so
  it can just install the font in the proper location, %SYSTEMROOT% 
  \Fonts
 
  That leaves Mac OS X, which is tricky since it needs to be inside the
  Mac OS X .app package.
 
  .hc
 
  On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:14 PM, David Powers wrote:
 
  On Windows installing the font with a batch file would be trivial.
 
  If you made some file Install.bat it could copy the font to the
  correct directory, and also run the registry script you currently  
  use,
  at the same time.
 
  ~David
 
  On 3/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 27, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Patco wrote:
 
  Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
  The last step in sorting the cross-platform font issue is finding
  a  way of including the font file for the Windows and Mac OS X
  packages.
 
  Anyone know how to make Tk look for fonts in a specific  
  directory?
 
  .hc
 
  I don't think you can't do this but it's possible to put a  
  specific
  font into the X server fonts directory, and doing a font mapping
  like in this neat tcl-tk application:
  http://xstick.e-artisan.org/
 
  also you might be interested by this:
  http://wiki.tcl.tk/470
 
  On Debian and Ubuntu, it'll be very easy to support since the
  Bitstream Vera Sans Mono font is in the package system.  I think  
  that
  font is also included in any GNOME install, so that covers most  
  GNU/
  Linux users.
 
  The hard part is Windows and Mac OS X.  We could require people to
  install the font seperately, but I'd rather have it just work  
  out of
  the box.
 
  .hc
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] including a font file with Pd-extended

2007-03-27 Thread Andre Schmidt
Hi,

i got a new job as osx admin (among others) for a while now, and we are
using a particular font as corporate design. so to ease my job for new
osx clients, i made a .pkg that installs the fonts to /Library/Fonts.
the fonts work rightaway without needing to restart or recache (just
like windowsxp)

if you dont want to install fonts to system library (eg. you dont want
to use admin rights) you can allso install the fonts to ~/Library/Fonts

but the coolest would be to be able to use the fonts from inside the pd
dir, without touching any system configs or dirs. but i dont know if
thats possible.
(like pdf uses embedded fonts, but i assume that pdf doesnt use the
system font render system ?)

cheers
andre



On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 00:38 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 Good point, Pd-extended is already using an installer on Windows, so  
 it can just install the font in the proper location, %SYSTEMROOT%\Fonts
 
 That leaves Mac OS X, which is tricky since it needs to be inside the  
 Mac OS X .app package.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:14 PM, David Powers wrote:
 
  On Windows installing the font with a batch file would be trivial.
 
  If you made some file Install.bat it could copy the font to the
  correct directory, and also run the registry script you currently use,
  at the same time.
 
  ~David
 
  On 3/27/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 27, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Patco wrote:
 
   Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
   The last step in sorting the cross-platform font issue is finding
   a  way of including the font file for the Windows and Mac OS X
   packages.
  
   Anyone know how to make Tk look for fonts in a specific directory?
  
   .hc
  
   I don't think you can't do this but it's possible to put a specific
   font into the X server fonts directory, and doing a font mapping
   like in this neat tcl-tk application:
   http://xstick.e-artisan.org/
  
   also you might be interested by this:
   http://wiki.tcl.tk/470
 
  On Debian and Ubuntu, it'll be very easy to support since the
  Bitstream Vera Sans Mono font is in the package system.  I think that
  font is also included in any GNOME install, so that covers most GNU/
  Linux users.
 
  The hard part is Windows and Mac OS X.  We could require people to
  install the font seperately, but I'd rather have it just work out of
  the box.
 
  .hc
 
  
  
  
  
  

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