Re: [PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?
Hi, Thanks for your help. I also would prefer Linux but the company that is buying the HW still have a policy about Windows OS. There might be changes to that in the future but still its just Windows for me. But I think I will go with the 64-bit XP. I'm quite busy working with my thesis right now, so I don't think I'll have time to do much fixing to the 64-bit PD. But I could do some testing work, if you need more testers. Just let me know how to sign up, and when I get the new hardware I'll be able to start. -Mika Quoting B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mika, If the HW seller does not give you an option for whatever OS you want, other than windows preloaded then don't buy from that seller. At least all the good deals on HW up here are found in smaller stores that build machines custom to order and will leave it blank if you want. I own two AMD64 machines, both running 32bit debian. And running debian on another two AMD64's machine at school, also with 32bit sarge. All are rock stable for PD. (just for fun here is what TOP says about my PD installation: runs 24/7, started on Jan 30th, still running today.) 5536 root -7 0 580m 426m 13m S 37.5 21.0 31217:21 pd that's about 31,217 hours cpu time for the pd process. I suggest you choose a seller than gives you a choice, then choose a 32bit OS for now and change it in the future. XP or Vista is not a choice. Just my advice... .b. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you are willing to do a bit of work on finishing up the 64-bit support, I highly recommend you get a 64-bit OS. But keep in mind then you will have to fix things, and there will be bugs. But the core of Pd should work fine now with 64-bit, that's been supported for a bit. The problems will mostly be with externals. Basically, 64-bit support is very close to being production ready, we just need some people willing to do the last testing and fixes. .hc On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Mika Ristimäki wrote: Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but searching the archives I couldn't quite get the answer I was looking for. I am getting a new desktop computer and my options for OS are 32-bit or 64-bit XP or 64-bit Vista. Sadly no Linux, so I have to cope with Windows. The CPU will be Quad-core Intel Xenon 5450. So my question is what OS (from my options) should I choose for PD. I use PD for audio algorithm research and testing so I also write lot of externals. I suppose that with 64-bit OS it is possible to compile compatible code for 32-bit OSs. What are the main advantages and disvantages in running PD in 64-bit XP. How about running 32-bit XP in the processor that has 64-bit architecture? Thanks for all the help... -Mika ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?
terve, i would suggest to look also other (windows) programs you may want to use, to make sure that they have 64bit versions! i assume there are many popular windows programs that are not yet available as 64bit. (last i heard, even ms-office was not available as 64bit) and you can always say no to the windows EULA when you first start your machine and then get your money back for the unused windows licence. then just go download a gnu/linux distribution and install it :) (or if you want to have windows, do a dual-boot) .andre ps. and yes, you can run 32bit OS in a 64bit processor... On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 10:55 +0300, Mika Ristimäki wrote: Hi, Thanks for your help. I also would prefer Linux but the company that is buying the HW still have a policy about Windows OS. There might be changes to that in the future but still its just Windows for me. But I think I will go with the 64-bit XP. I'm quite busy working with my thesis right now, so I don't think I'll have time to do much fixing to the 64-bit PD. But I could do some testing work, if you need more testers. Just let me know how to sign up, and when I get the new hardware I'll be able to start. -Mika Quoting B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mika, If the HW seller does not give you an option for whatever OS you want, other than windows preloaded then don't buy from that seller. At least all the good deals on HW up here are found in smaller stores that build machines custom to order and will leave it blank if you want. I own two AMD64 machines, both running 32bit debian. And running debian on another two AMD64's machine at school, also with 32bit sarge. All are rock stable for PD. (just for fun here is what TOP says about my PD installation: runs 24/7, started on Jan 30th, still running today.) 5536 root -7 0 580m 426m 13m S 37.5 21.0 31217:21 pd that's about 31,217 hours cpu time for the pd process. I suggest you choose a seller than gives you a choice, then choose a 32bit OS for now and change it in the future. XP or Vista is not a choice. Just my advice... .b. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you are willing to do a bit of work on finishing up the 64-bit support, I highly recommend you get a 64-bit OS. But keep in mind then you will have to fix things, and there will be bugs. But the core of Pd should work fine now with 64-bit, that's been supported for a bit. The problems will mostly be with externals. Basically, 64-bit support is very close to being production ready, we just need some people willing to do the last testing and fixes. .hc On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Mika Ristimäki wrote: Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but searching the archives I couldn't quite get the answer I was looking for. I am getting a new desktop computer and my options for OS are 32-bit or 64-bit XP or 64-bit Vista. Sadly no Linux, so I have to cope with Windows. The CPU will be Quad-core Intel Xenon 5450. So my question is what OS (from my options) should I choose for PD. I use PD for audio algorithm research and testing so I also write lot of externals. I suppose that with 64-bit OS it is possible to compile compatible code for 32-bit OSs. What are the main advantages and disvantages in running PD in 64-bit XP. How about running 32-bit XP in the processor that has 64-bit architecture? Thanks for all the help... -Mika ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?
If you are willing to do a bit of work on finishing up the 64-bit support, I highly recommend you get a 64-bit OS. But keep in mind then you will have to fix things, and there will be bugs. But the core of Pd should work fine now with 64-bit, that's been supported for a bit. The problems will mostly be with externals. Basically, 64-bit support is very close to being production ready, we just need some people willing to do the last testing and fixes. .hc On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Mika Ristimäki wrote: Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but searching the archives I couldn't quite get the answer I was looking for. I am getting a new desktop computer and my options for OS are 32-bit or 64-bit XP or 64-bit Vista. Sadly no Linux, so I have to cope with Windows. The CPU will be Quad-core Intel Xenon 5450. So my question is what OS (from my options) should I choose for PD. I use PD for audio algorithm research and testing so I also write lot of externals. I suppose that with 64-bit OS it is possible to compile compatible code for 32-bit OSs. What are the main advantages and disvantages in running PD in 64-bit XP. How about running 32-bit XP in the processor that has 64-bit architecture? Thanks for all the help... -Mika ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?
Hi Mika, If the HW seller does not give you an option for whatever OS you want, other than windows preloaded then don't buy from that seller. At least all the good deals on HW up here are found in smaller stores that build machines custom to order and will leave it blank if you want. I own two AMD64 machines, both running 32bit debian. And running debian on another two AMD64's machine at school, also with 32bit sarge. All are rock stable for PD. (just for fun here is what TOP says about my PD installation: runs 24/7, started on Jan 30th, still running today.) 5536 root -7 0 580m 426m 13m S 37.5 21.0 31217:21 pd that's about 31,217 hours cpu time for the pd process. I suggest you choose a seller than gives you a choice, then choose a 32bit OS for now and change it in the future. XP or Vista is not a choice. Just my advice... .b. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you are willing to do a bit of work on finishing up the 64-bit support, I highly recommend you get a 64-bit OS. But keep in mind then you will have to fix things, and there will be bugs. But the core of Pd should work fine now with 64-bit, that's been supported for a bit. The problems will mostly be with externals. Basically, 64-bit support is very close to being production ready, we just need some people willing to do the last testing and fixes. .hc On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Mika Ristimäki wrote: Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but searching the archives I couldn't quite get the answer I was looking for. I am getting a new desktop computer and my options for OS are 32-bit or 64-bit XP or 64-bit Vista. Sadly no Linux, so I have to cope with Windows. The CPU will be Quad-core Intel Xenon 5450. So my question is what OS (from my options) should I choose for PD. I use PD for audio algorithm research and testing so I also write lot of externals. I suppose that with 64-bit OS it is possible to compile compatible code for 32-bit OSs. What are the main advantages and disvantages in running PD in 64-bit XP. How about running 32-bit XP in the processor that has 64-bit architecture? Thanks for all the help... -Mika ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
