Re: [PD] 8ch diffusion
Hallo, Achim Bornhoeft hat gesagt: // Achim Bornhoeft wrote: Can anybody help me to extend this patch from 4ch to 8ch? (I found it somewhere...) Or is there an even easier (better) way to do the same. I already tried [vbap] but the objects [define_loudspeaker] and [matrix~] are not recognized by my PD-Extended 40.3 on Max OS 10.5. (see other attachment). Attached is a cosine-panner that I built to pan sounds accross a 12x5 speaker matrix [1] (with help by Peter Plessas, thanks again!). If you want to pan to that many outputs, I highly recommend to use the iemmatrix objects, they make things much easier. Never use [matrix~] that object is nameclash-polluted, use [mtx_mul~] instead, an example is in the cospan help file. Anway you can pan with just [*~] as well using [cospan], it's just a lot more patching work, more error prone and slower. The basic idea is to create as many [cospan index channels] objects as you need. Say you want to pan over 4 channels left to right, you create these: [cospan 0 4] [cospan 1 4] [cospan 2 4] [cospan 3 4] and send each of them a position in degrees from 0-360. The left outlet of cospan will output the raw amplitudes of the respective channel, the right one will output messages for [mtx_mul~]. Now if you want two-dimennsional panning, you duplicate the setup for each the vertical or y-axis. See cospan16to9.pd for how I did it for the speaker wall (which is called 16:9 although it only has 12x5 speakers.) HOTH [1] this one: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2008/jul/28/schusslig-17-beta/ Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ cospan-help.pd Description: application/puredata cospan.pd Description: application/puredata cospan12~.pd Description: application/puredata cospan16to9~.pd Description: application/puredata cospan5~.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 8ch diffusion
Hello Frank, thank you very much for your patches. I'll have a look at it very soon. Because of [mtx_mul~] I would like to add iemmatrix to my path list. How can I set a new search path for a library when the folder is inside the PD package (because I can't open the PD Contents from the window that opens.) Thanks for help. Achim Am 15.03.2009 um 10:50 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Achim Bornhoeft hat gesagt: // Achim Bornhoeft wrote: Can anybody help me to extend this patch from 4ch to 8ch? (I found it somewhere...) Or is there an even easier (better) way to do the same. I already tried [vbap] but the objects [define_loudspeaker] and [matrix~] are not recognized by my PD-Extended 40.3 on Max OS 10.5. (see other attachment). Attached is a cosine-panner that I built to pan sounds accross a 12x5 speaker matrix [1] (with help by Peter Plessas, thanks again!). If you want to pan to that many outputs, I highly recommend to use the iemmatrix objects, they make things much easier. Never use [matrix~] that object is nameclash-polluted, use [mtx_mul~] instead, an example is in the cospan help file. Anway you can pan with just [*~] as well using [cospan], it's just a lot more patching work, more error prone and slower. The basic idea is to create as many [cospan index channels] objects as you need. Say you want to pan over 4 channels left to right, you create these: [cospan 0 4] [cospan 1 4] [cospan 2 4] [cospan 3 4] and send each of them a position in degrees from 0-360. The left outlet of cospan will output the raw amplitudes of the respective channel, the right one will output messages for [mtx_mul~]. Now if you want two-dimennsional panning, you duplicate the setup for each the vertical or y-axis. See cospan16to9.pd for how I did it for the speaker wall (which is called 16:9 although it only has 12x5 speakers.) HOTH [1] this one: http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2008/jul/28/schusslig-17-beta/ Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ cospan- help .pd cospan .pd cospan12 ~ .pd cospan16to9 ~.pdcospan5~.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Achim Bornhoeft Neckarhalde 38, D-72070 Tuebingen tel/fax +49 (0)7071 942745 mobil +49 (0)179 6936930 skype:achim.bornhoeft?call www.bornhoeft.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] 8ch diffusion
Can anybody help me to extend this patch from 4ch to 8ch? (I found it somewhere...) Or is there an even easier (better) way to do the same. I already tried [vbap] but the objects [define_loudspeaker] and [matrix~] are not recognized by my PD-Extended 40.3 on Max OS 10.5. (see other attachment). Many thanks in advance for your help, Achim Achim Bornhoeft Neckarhalde 38, D-72070 Tuebingen tel/fax +49 (0)7071 942745 mobil +49 (0)179 6936930 skype:achim.bornhoeft?call www.bornhoeft.org 4ch-grid.pd Description: Binary data vbap-test.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 8ch diffusion
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Achim Bornhoeft wrote: Can anybody help me to extend this patch from 4ch to 8ch? Well, I don't really have any experience with spatialisation, but if you're trying to make a rectangular-prism structure from a rectangle structure, you will need to add a 3rd [expr], add a new [inlet] and [/ 200], add four more [t f b] 50 [line~] [outlet~], and quadruple the number of [*]. The latter is because now each corner is made by multiplying two things together, and what you want is probably multiplying three things together, so you need 2 [*] per channel. Look at the pattern of wires, how it tries all four combinations of going through [expr] and not going through it, and how the number of combinations grows to 8 when adding a third inlet, and that to multiply the third inlet (or its [expr] counterpart) you need the extra [*] for each. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
