Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid
Hi pd-list, I tested pdvjtools on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 GNU/Linux today. colorgrid, videogrid and pix_preview should compile and run fine. I tested these externals with Pd-0.43.0 () compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 and Pd-0.44.0 (extended-20131015) compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 through full approach sources - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and linux_make build - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended I hope you can make it run too. greetings, S. -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:43:43 -0400 From: Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? To: 'Antonio Roberts' anto...@hellocatfood.com Cc: 'PD List' pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 01da01cec434$c955a5e0$5c00f1a0$@ufl.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have had trouble with it too, I?ll check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a ?crit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid
Pd-0.43.0 () compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 and Pd-0.44.0 (extended-20131015) compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 through full approach sources - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and linux_make build - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended Do you have a list of the commands you used? I not sure what you mean by what you said above Kind regards, Antonio On 15 October 2013 14:22, Sergi Lario sla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi pd-list, I tested pdvjtools on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 GNU/Linux today. colorgrid, videogrid and pix_preview should compile and run fine. I tested these externals with Pd-0.43.0 () compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 and Pd-0.44.0 (extended-20131015) compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 through full approach sources - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and linux_make build - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended I hope you can make it run too. greetings, S. -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:43:43 -0400 From: Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? To: 'Antonio Roberts' anto...@hellocatfood.com Cc: 'PD List' pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 01da01cec434$c955a5e0$5c00f1a0$@ufl.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have had trouble with it too, I?ll check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a ?crit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid
Yep, In order to compile pdvjtools we really need pd sources, Gem, pdp and ffmpeg library, although not every external use all of these. Using the sources at svn http://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tree/trunk/externals/pdvjtools/ the Makefile searches for ../../pd, ../pdp/include, ../../Gem/src, and /usr/include/ffmpeg A part of install ffmpeg, what I did was 1-- build a pd-extended using git clones for pd-extended and gem, and a svn checkout for pd-svn, like Full Approach of http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended (some problems by missing files but solvable ^) and 2-- compile pdvjtools with make clean, make and make install. The first process it's only to get sources in the right place and configure, but we can do in other ways. Here some command lines I did. 1-- sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel$ git clone git:// git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pd-extended pd-extended sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel$ svn checkout svn:// svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk pd-svn sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel$ git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pd-gem/gemgem sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn$ mv pd pd-original sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn$ ln -s ../pd-extended pd sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn$ ln -s ../gem Gem sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals$ ln -s ../../gem Gem sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/packages/linux_make$ make clean make install (^ here I found some missing files like iemlib.h over some folders and replaced for a existing one, and a simple file creation for the missing help patches) 2-- sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals/pdvjtools$ make clean sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals/pdvjtools$ make sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals/pdvjtools$ make install At the end, each external folder should contain the binay pd_linux file. As I mentioned before, this is a the way I used to compile pdvjtools today, but no all the steps listed at 1-- are necessary. There is also the possibility to compile each external from its own Makefile. I hope it helps. S. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.comwrote: Pd-0.43.0 () compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 and Pd-0.44.0 (extended-20131015) compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 through full approach sources - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and linux_make build - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended Do you have a list of the commands you used? I not sure what you mean by what you said above Kind regards, Antonio On 15 October 2013 14:22, Sergi Lario sla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi pd-list, I tested pdvjtools on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 GNU/Linux today. colorgrid, videogrid and pix_preview should compile and run fine. I tested these externals with Pd-0.43.0 () compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 and Pd-0.44.0 (extended-20131015) compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 through full approach sources - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and linux_make build - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended I hope you can make it run too. greetings, S. -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:43:43 -0400 From: Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? To: 'Antonio Roberts' anto...@hellocatfood.com Cc: 'PD List' pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 01da01cec434$c955a5e0$5c00f1a0$@ufl.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have had trouble with it too, I?ll check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a ?crit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a écrit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
I have had trouble with it too, Ill check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a écrit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Is there a more permanent solution than that i.e. compilation instructions? btw, the colroGrid object from the mtl is an alright replacement https://github.com/patricksebastien/mtl On 8 October 2013 15:43, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu wrote: I have had trouble with it too, I’ll check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a écrit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Look for pdpvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Hi Im sure there is something in the MTL abstractions: http://puredata.info/Members/mtl/index_html cant remember the name...sorry! On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
