Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2011

2010-06-07 Thread Vilson Vieira
2010/6/6 patrick mcnameeking pmcnameek...@gmail.com

 I agree that the Exhibition should be expanded.  There currently are
 instructions for how to contribute to the exhibition here:
 http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/AddingToTheExhibition
 Do you guys think that it would be out of line for me to search for artists
 who use Pd and ask them to post some documentation of their work?


It's a good idea and I can help you with that Patrick.


 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote:

 expanding the PD showcase of projects made with pd (like the Processing
 Exhibition http://processing.org/exhibition/)


Maybe it could merge with [1]? A new design of puredata.info or something
like this.

[1] http://puredata.info/dev/pd_webwiki

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[PD] Google Summer of Code 2011

2010-06-06 Thread patrick mcnameeking
Hello List:

I am interested in putting together an application for Pure Data to
participate in next year's Google Summer of Code event.  The Summer of Code
is an event where students are matched with mentors to work on various
open-source projects, and are given a rather generous stipend.  More
information can be found here:
http://code.google.com/soc/

As an organization, Pure Data has applied to participate in GSoC twice in
the past and has been rejected.  The reasons for rejection are not clear to
me, but Hans-Christoph Steiner, who has lead the charge in the past, said
that he thinks it is worth trying to reapply.
Here is a link to a previous application that was rejected:
http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

While perusing through the list of organizations that are participating in
2010's Summer of Code, I couldn't help but notice that many of them were
tagged with application to Google's Android OS.  Since Pd can be ported to
Android, it might be to our benefit to point out Pd's possible application
to developing mobile apps.

Alternatively, if nothing pans out for Pd in terms of GSoC (either from
rejection of an application or from a lack of interest) it was suggested to
me by Andy Farnell to seek alternative sponsorship from possible benefactors
such as Sun or EA.

Finally, I'd like to say upfront that I'm a University Student and what
originally got me interested in GSoC was the potential prestige and stipend
that would accompany participation.  If some sort of grant/sponsorship
opportunity opens up, I fully intend on applying for it.  I ask that if at
any point in time it seems as though I am creating an unfair advantage for
myself, that someone please let me know.

I hope that as a community we can make something happen!
Pat

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2011

2010-06-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Thanks for taking the initiative, Patrick.  There is at least a lot of  
material to start with from previous efforts.  I'll happily contribute  
to an effort.


.hc

On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:22 PM, patrick mcnameeking wrote:


Hello List:

I am interested in putting together an application for Pure Data to  
participate in next year's Google Summer of Code event.  The Summer  
of Code is an event where students are matched with mentors to work  
on various open-source projects, and are given a rather generous  
stipend.  More information can be found here:

http://code.google.com/soc/

As an organization, Pure Data has applied to participate in GSoC  
twice in the past and has been rejected.  The reasons for rejection  
are not clear to me, but Hans-Christoph Steiner, who has lead the  
charge in the past, said that he thinks it is worth trying to reapply.

Here is a link to a previous application that was rejected:
http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

While perusing through the list of organizations that are  
participating in 2010's Summer of Code, I couldn't help but notice  
that many of them were tagged with application to Google's Android  
OS.  Since Pd can be ported to Android, it might be to our benefit  
to point out Pd's possible application to developing mobile apps.


Alternatively, if nothing pans out for Pd in terms of GSoC (either  
from rejection of an application or from a lack of interest) it was  
suggested to me by Andy Farnell to seek alternative sponsorship from  
possible benefactors such as Sun or EA.


Finally, I'd like to say upfront that I'm a University Student and  
what originally got me interested in GSoC was the potential prestige  
and stipend that would accompany participation.  If some sort of  
grant/sponsorship opportunity opens up, I fully intend on applying  
for it.  I ask that if at any point in time it seems as though I am  
creating an unfair advantage for myself, that someone please let me  
know.


I hope that as a community we can make something happen!
Pat

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2011

2010-06-06 Thread Dan Wilcox

I'm definitely interested and willing to help out. I will be a student again 
starting in the fall, so I'd be eligible to work on it next summer.

I think it's important to not only make a great application but also define 
what we as a community and the project need to do in order to support the 
application. This makes me think of things like:
getting a list of universities, organizations, and individuals that use pd 
(with links, logos, etc)
expanding the PD showcase of projects made with pd (like the Processing 
Exhibition)
centralizing information: integrating the main pure-data.info wiki, the source 
forge page, the pd forum, and this list in some way? sort of a more cohesive 
web presence if that makes sense. Maybe this is not practical ...
a wiki section for externals with info and links for all major libraries 
(including those in pd-extended)

On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, patrick mcnameeking wrote:

 Hello List:
 
 I am interested in putting together an application for Pure Data to 
 participate in next year's Google Summer of Code event.  The Summer of Code 
 is an event where students are matched with mentors to work on various 
 open-source projects, and are given a rather generous stipend.  More 
 information can be found here:
 http://code.google.com/soc/ 
 
 As an organization, Pure Data has applied to participate in GSoC twice in the 
 past and has been rejected.  The reasons for rejection are not clear to me, 
 but Hans-Christoph Steiner, who has lead the charge in the past, said that he 
 thinks it is worth trying to reapply.
 Here is a link to a previous application that was rejected:
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code
 
 While perusing through the list of organizations that are participating in 
 2010's Summer of Code, I couldn't help but notice that many of them were 
 tagged with application to Google's Android OS.  Since Pd can be ported to 
 Android, it might be to our benefit to point out Pd's possible application to 
 developing mobile apps.  
 
 Alternatively, if nothing pans out for Pd in terms of GSoC (either from 
 rejection of an application or from a lack of interest) it was suggested to 
 me by Andy Farnell to seek alternative sponsorship from possible benefactors 
 such as Sun or EA.  
 
 Finally, I'd like to say upfront that I'm a University Student and what 
 originally got me interested in GSoC was the potential prestige and stipend 
 that would accompany participation.  If some sort of grant/sponsorship 
 opportunity opens up, I fully intend on applying for it.  I ask that if at 
 any point in time it seems as though I am creating an unfair advantage for 
 myself, that someone please let me know.  
 
 I hope that as a community we can make something happen!
 Pat
 
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2011

2010-06-06 Thread Pedro Lopes
Its a great initiative, although more support for pd on android is
interesting and can give a more google appeal to it, try to cover many
areas where help is needed, like in the previous applications for GSoC.

expanding the PD showcase of projects made with pd (like the Processing
Exhibition http://processing.org/exhibition/)
Yep, very important! For instance I learned here in this list that EA used a
modified pd for Spore audio synthesis! That should give pd some points :P

best of luck with this year's application,
Pedro

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm definitely interested and willing to help out. I will be a student
 again starting in the fall, so I'd be eligible to work on it next summer.

 I think it's important to not only make a great application but also define
 what we as a community and the project need to do in order to support the
 application. This makes me think of things like:

- getting a list of universities, organizations, and individuals that
use pd (with links, logos, etc)
- expanding the PD showcase of projects made with pd (like the Processing
Exhibition http://processing.org/exhibition/)
- centralizing information: integrating the main pure-data.info wiki,
the source forge page, the pd forum, and this list in some way? sort of a
more cohesive web presence if that makes sense. Maybe this is not practical
...
- a wiki section for externals with info and links for all major
libraries (including those in pd-extended)


 On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, patrick mcnameeking wrote:

 Hello List:

 I am interested in putting together an application for Pure Data to
 participate in next year's Google Summer of Code event.  The Summer of Code
 is an event where students are matched with mentors to work on various
 open-source projects, and are given a rather generous stipend.  More
 information can be found here:
 http://code.google.com/soc/

 As an organization, Pure Data has applied to participate in GSoC twice in
 the past and has been rejected.  The reasons for rejection are not clear to
 me, but Hans-Christoph Steiner, who has lead the charge in the past, said
 that he thinks it is worth trying to reapply.
 Here is a link to a previous application that was rejected:
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

 While perusing through the list of organizations that are participating in
 2010's Summer of Code, I couldn't help but notice that many of them were
 tagged with application to Google's Android OS.  Since Pd can be ported to
 Android, it might be to our benefit to point out Pd's possible application
 to developing mobile apps.

 Alternatively, if nothing pans out for Pd in terms of GSoC (either from
 rejection of an application or from a lack of interest) it was suggested to
 me by Andy Farnell to seek alternative sponsorship from possible benefactors
 such as Sun or EA.

 Finally, I'd like to say upfront that I'm a University Student and what
 originally got me interested in GSoC was the potential prestige and stipend
 that would accompany participation.  If some sort of grant/sponsorship
 opportunity opens up, I fully intend on applying for it.  I ask that if at
 any point in time it seems as though I am creating an unfair advantage for
 myself, that someone please let me know.

 I hope that as a community we can make something happen!
 Pat

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2011

2010-06-06 Thread patrick mcnameeking
I agree that the Exhibition should be expanded.  There currently are
instructions for how to contribute to the exhibition here:
http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/AddingToTheExhibition
Do you guys think that it would be out of line for me to search for artists
who use Pd and ask them to post some documentation of their work?

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote:

 Its a great initiative, although more support for pd on android is
 interesting and can give a more google appeal to it, try to cover many
 areas where help is needed, like in the previous applications for GSoC.


 expanding the PD showcase of projects made with pd (like the Processing
 Exhibition http://processing.org/exhibition/)
 Yep, very important! For instance I learned here in this list that EA used
 a modified pd for Spore audio synthesis! That should give pd some points :P

 best of luck with this year's application,
 Pedro

 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm definitely interested and willing to help out. I will be a student
 again starting in the fall, so I'd be eligible to work on it next summer.

 I think it's important to not only make a great application but also
 define what we as a community and the project need to do in order to support
 the application. This makes me think of things like:

- getting a list of universities, organizations, and individuals that
use pd (with links, logos, etc)
- expanding the PD showcase of projects made with pd (like the Processing
Exhibition http://processing.org/exhibition/)
- centralizing information: integrating the main pure-data.info wiki,
the source forge page, the pd forum, and this list in some way? sort of a
more cohesive web presence if that makes sense. Maybe this is not 
 practical
...
- a wiki section for externals with info and links for all major
libraries (including those in pd-extended)


 On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, patrick mcnameeking wrote:

 Hello List:

 I am interested in putting together an application for Pure Data to
 participate in next year's Google Summer of Code event.  The Summer of Code
 is an event where students are matched with mentors to work on various
 open-source projects, and are given a rather generous stipend.  More
 information can be found here:
 http://code.google.com/soc/

 As an organization, Pure Data has applied to participate in GSoC twice in
 the past and has been rejected.  The reasons for rejection are not clear to
 me, but Hans-Christoph Steiner, who has lead the charge in the past, said
 that he thinks it is worth trying to reapply.
 Here is a link to a previous application that was rejected:
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

 While perusing through the list of organizations that are participating in
 2010's Summer of Code, I couldn't help but notice that many of them were
 tagged with application to Google's Android OS.  Since Pd can be ported to
 Android, it might be to our benefit to point out Pd's possible application
 to developing mobile apps.

 Alternatively, if nothing pans out for Pd in terms of GSoC (either from
 rejection of an application or from a lack of interest) it was suggested to
 me by Andy Farnell to seek alternative sponsorship from possible benefactors
 such as Sun or EA.

 Finally, I'd like to say upfront that I'm a University Student and what
 originally got me interested in GSoC was the potential prestige and stipend
 that would accompany participation.  If some sort of grant/sponsorship
 opportunity opens up, I fully intend on applying for it.  I ask that if at
 any point in time it seems as though I am creating an unfair advantage for
 myself, that someone please let me know.

 I hope that as a community we can make something happen!
 Pat

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-03-01 Thread Georg Holzmann
OK, I started the WIKI page here:
http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009

I will add some projects in the evening, which can be used as templates 
for other mentors ...

LG
Georg

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
 
 I think your idea sounds good, I think you should just start the page, 
 and then we can fill it in as each of us finds the time.
 
 .hc
 
 On Feb 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote:
 
 Hallo Hans !

 Do you have or other have any comments on my last mail ?
 I don't want to start a new wiki page if there is no agreement about 
 the procedure ...

 LG
 Georg

 Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
 On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote:
 wow these project are really nice.

 i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is 
 s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know 
 how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/

 LibPd would be also a huge addition.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/

 only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of 
 confusing.

 but as already stated, all projects are great and would be wonderful.
 If you want to starting on standard libs for Pd, I say just do it.  
 Pick a topic and start making a library.  For example, I really 
 should finish 'tkwidgets', which is a library that aims to directly 
 expose the standard Tk widgets for use in Pd.  I did manage to finish 
 'apple' which is a library of Apple-specific functions like 
 accelerometer, light level sensors, brightness controls, etc.  The 
 Thinkpad has lots of example code for all this stuff to, so it would 
 be great to have a 'thinkpad' library.
 .hc
 
  
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Hans !

Do you have or other have any comments on my last mail ?
I don't want to start a new wiki page if there is no agreement about the 
procedure ...

LG
Georg

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
 
 On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote:
 
 wow these project are really nice.

 i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is 
 s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know 
 how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/

 LibPd would be also a huge addition.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/

 only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of 
 confusing.

 but as already stated, all projects are great and would be wonderful.
 
 
 If you want to starting on standard libs for Pd, I say just do it.  Pick 
 a topic and start making a library.  For example, I really should finish 
 'tkwidgets', which is a library that aims to directly expose the 
 standard Tk widgets for use in Pd.  I did manage to finish 'apple' which 
 is a library of Apple-specific functions like accelerometer, light level 
 sensors, brightness controls, etc.  The Thinkpad has lots of example 
 code for all this stuff to, so it would be great to have a 'thinkpad' 
 library.
 
 .hc
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I think your idea sounds good, I think you should just start the page,  
and then we can fill it in as each of us finds the time.

.hc

On Feb 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote:

 Hallo Hans !

 Do you have or other have any comments on my last mail ?
 I don't want to start a new wiki page if there is no agreement about  
 the procedure ...

 LG
 Georg

 Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
 On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote:
 wow these project are really nice.

 i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is  
 s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even  
 know how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/

 LibPd would be also a huge addition.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/

 only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of  
 confusing.

 but as already stated, all projects are great and would be  
 wonderful.
 If you want to starting on standard libs for Pd, I say just do it.   
 Pick a topic and start making a library.  For example, I really  
 should finish 'tkwidgets', which is a library that aims to directly  
 expose the standard Tk widgets for use in Pd.  I did manage to  
 finish 'apple' which is a library of Apple-specific functions like  
 accelerometer, light level sensors, brightness controls, etc.  The  
 Thinkpad has lots of example code for all this stuff to, so it  
 would be great to have a 'thinkpad' library.
 .hc
  
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[PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hey,

Google is doing summer of code again, this time we have the knowledge  
and an app so that we can get chosen again.  Here's the site:

http://code.google.com/soc/

Here's our app from last year:

http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/

The first question to answer is: are all of the mentors from last year  
still up for being a mentor this year?  The mentor gets $500 per  
student, perhaps being a mentor would be more enticing if the mentor  
got to keep the $500.  Here's the list from last year:

   IOhannes? m zmoelnig umlaeute AA gmail.com
   Damian Stewart damian.stewart AA gmail.com
   Hans-Christoph Steiner pdgsocmentor AA gmail.com
   Jamie Bullock jamie.b.bullock AA googlemail.com
   ClaudiusMaximus? clodmax AA googlemail.com
   Andy Farnell andyfarnell AA googlemail.com
   Alexandre Castonguay anaxel.guy.de.tarascon AA gmail.com
   Bryan Jurish moocow.bovine AA gmail.com
   Chris McCormick? mccormix AA gmail.com
   David Plans Casal davidplans AA gmail.com
   B. Bogart p314159265358978 AA gmail.com

The Org app is due March 9th, so let's get cracking and make a great  
application.

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Hans, list !

 Google is doing summer of code again, this time we have the knowledge  
 and an app so that we can get chosen again.  Here's the site:
 
 http://code.google.com/soc/
 
 Here's our app from last year:
 
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/

Nice - I quickly looked through the old applications, which were really 
many ...

I think we shouldn't make that many applications this year (as google 
suggested to us) and try to describe the few ones much better.


 The first question to answer is: are all of the mentors from last year  
 still up for being a mentor this year?  The mentor gets $500 per  
 student, perhaps being a mentor would be more enticing if the mentor  
 got to keep the $500.  Here's the list from last year:

I would be up for a mentor this year, as I am now working somehow ;)

What do you mean, how should we proceed ?
Maybe we should make a new WIKI page and each mentor describes the 
projects he likes on the new page (and copies parts from last years 
projects) !

Then we could decide a few days before the deadline, which descriptions 
are complete enough for the proposal.

LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Enrique Erne
wow these project are really nice.

i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is s 
missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know how to 
help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext.
http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/

LibPd would be also a huge addition.
http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/

only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of 
confusing.

but as already stated, all projects are great and would be wonderful.

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote:

 wow these project are really nice.

 i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is  
 s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know  
 how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/

 LibPd would be also a huge addition.
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/LibPd/

 only negative point i have is the name: PdLib and LibPd is kind of  
 confusing.

 but as already stated, all projects are great and would be wonderful.


If you want to starting on standard libs for Pd, I say just do it.   
Pick a topic and start making a library.  For example, I really should  
finish 'tkwidgets', which is a library that aims to directly expose  
the standard Tk widgets for use in Pd.  I did manage to finish 'apple'  
which is a library of Apple-specific functions like accelerometer,  
light level sensors, brightness controls, etc.  The Thinkpad has lots  
of example code for all this stuff to, so it would be great to have a  
'thinkpad' library.

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-13 Thread Jamie Bullock

On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 13:09 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 I just submitted it with 10 mentors, we should be able to add more  
 mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late  
 to join.
 
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008
 
 I think the app is looking good, fingers crossed!

Nice work Hans. Thanks for being the Pd ambassador!

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[PD] Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I just submitted it with 10 mentors, we should be able to add more  
mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late  
to join.

http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008

I think the app is looking good, fingers crossed!

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-12 Thread olme
what is the requirement for mentor app. ?? (exept gmail account)

Olm-e.

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 I just submitted it with 10 mentors, we should be able to add more  
 mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late  
 to join.

 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008

 I think the app is looking good, fingers crossed!

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2008-03-12 Thread olme
ok, sorry I've seen it in the wiki page doc ... it seems I just ask 
stupid questions on this list until now, together with asking  uv map 
help and blender apricot ...

sorry to disturb ...

Olm-e

olme wrote:
 what is the requirement for mentor app. ?? (exept gmail account)

 Olm-e.

 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
   
 I just submitted it with 10 mentors, we should be able to add more  
 mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late  
 to join.

 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008

 I think the app is looking good, fingers crossed!

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-12 Thread olme
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 For Pure Data, the informal requirement to be a mentor is that you 
 should be well known on the lists, the forums, the IRC, or some other 
 Pd community.  It would good to also include people who are involved 
 but not necessarily on the main English online communities.  Do you 
 have an interest in being a mentor?

I could see some improvements I would love to see (like uv map support 
for .obj [model] ) , but I don't have neither the experience/reknown of 
somebody active in the community for years (although I know and use pd 
for 3/4 years now on specific projects) nor having dev. specific 
knowledge of internals pd mechanics ... (although I do have some 
experience of lead artist in dev. of other specific app. like 
http://www.woaw.biz - nothing to do with pd -  and recent support of the 
video plugin for blender...).
I cannot say success in any pd dev mentoring experience... and reading 
these, I don't feel confident in taking such responsability (again sorry 
for asking stupid questions).

So it's quite off the basic requirements  maybe next years if these 
ones are prolifics for me :)

thanks for all the work you do into this,
hope other developpers and students will add to these summer 
developments, I wish you all the best,

regards,

Olm-e
 Here's what I wrote in the app:

 The mentors were chosen because they all have been informal mentors 
 within the Pd community, and have a proven record of success in that 
 regard. Additionally, here are some other criteria for choosing mentors:

 * active community member for at least 2-3 years
 * strong knowledge in at least one area of Pd
 * demonstrated willingness to help others on mailing list, forums, 
 IRC
 * regularly shares code and creates examples for others to learn from


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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-12 Thread marius schebella
I read that the participating organizations will be announced on monday 
14th, and the student application period is from march 24-march31.
luckily, I also found out that it is possible to participate as a 
student even if you graduate in summer (or even may...), the critical 
day is april 14, when you must be enrolled as a student.

are the suggested topics on the wiki already suggested projects, or are 
these overall topics?
I think the most important work would be documentation, but 
documentation-only work is not accepted as a code project.

I would like to step into gem development; multitextures, uv mapping, 
animated meshes, maybe skeleton animation support, pix2jitter bridge, 
opencv externals, tesselation external for polygons, probably 
implementing point in shape algorithm. chris or iohannes do you have 
some advice for a beginner project...

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 mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late  
 to join.
 
 http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008
 
 I think the app is looking good, fingers crossed!
 
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Kyle!

Please describe this, as you just did, again in the WIKI.
I already added a little bit of technical describtion (as described by 
Tim) !

LG
Georg

 There already is a jack VST and Audio Unit for OSX, that's not the
 issue. What I really want is to just be able to run one master app (my
 DAW) and have everything else loaded from there, so that I don't have
 to do the whole 30 mins of configuring and opening corresponding files
 and settings, stored in directories across the computer thing.
 
 It's a pain to have to adjust and load setting after setting when it
 could all be saved in a nice project file in a professional sequencer
 app. For those of us who like what Pd has to offer as a bus insert or
 midi filter or general audio swiss army knife, we don't want to deal
 with multiples of files all over the place in different spots, we just
 want to have a nice compact project space that contains everything in
 an intuitive way, so we can just touch and go, and save everything so
 that we can open the project back up again exactly how we left it, all
 automation and everything stored in the project.
 
 Managing automation in Pd has not been a quick and dirty thing for me,
 and I'd prefer to leave that task to software that I'm comfortable
 with. But to have a custom synth or effect or midi chain filter or
 integrated graphics show work seamlessly from my DAW once I load one
 single project file is the holy grail to me.
 
 Having 5 programs open and trying to wrangle the routing between them
 for a half hour to get a song playing is less than ideal. A Pluggo for
 Pd would help minimize the time and frustration of this by compressing
 it all into one file that references a bank of subordinate plugins.
 
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:20 +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote:

 
 i've been changing some emails with stefano d'angelo, who is starting to
 write a plugin wrapper, which is supposed to work with different plugin
 backends (vst, ladspa ...) ... a pluggo for pd could make use of this
 project in order to support several platforms out of the box. i guess,
 stefano doesn't have a working prototype, yet, but it's probably a good
 idea to join the development resources in order do avoid duplicate work.
 his project website is http://sourceforge.net/projects/naspro/
 
 in general, from my knowledge of the pd architecture, running pd in a
 plugin environment would require some non-trival changes, it can't be
 just implemented on top of the current implementation. which means, in
 some way, this has to be incorporated into vanilla pd ... 
 

Maybe this is a very naive solution, but couldn't we solve the problem
of getting audio data from PD into non-jack apps (that support some kind
of plugin), by writing a very simple (LADSPA, VST, AU etc.) plugin that
acts as a jack client. 

e.g.:

Audacity - LADSPA jack client plugin - jack - PD - jack - LADSPA
jack client plugin - Audacity

The simplest case would use one 'jack client plugin' instance for each
audio channel to/from PD.

I've been meaning to implement this for a while, and maybe there's a
glaring flaw, but I can't see it right now..

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-03 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 Audacity - LADSPA jack client plugin - jack - PD - jack - LADSPA
 jack client plugin - Audacity

But AFAIK this is already possible - at least in Ardour I did something 
like that (but the problem is, that you cannot automate the parameters ..)

LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-03 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
There already is a jack VST and Audio Unit for OSX, that's not the
issue. What I really want is to just be able to run one master app (my
DAW) and have everything else loaded from there, so that I don't have
to do the whole 30 mins of configuring and opening corresponding files
and settings, stored in directories across the computer thing.

It's a pain to have to adjust and load setting after setting when it
could all be saved in a nice project file in a professional sequencer
app. For those of us who like what Pd has to offer as a bus insert or
midi filter or general audio swiss army knife, we don't want to deal
with multiples of files all over the place in different spots, we just
want to have a nice compact project space that contains everything in
an intuitive way, so we can just touch and go, and save everything so
that we can open the project back up again exactly how we left it, all
automation and everything stored in the project.

Managing automation in Pd has not been a quick and dirty thing for me,
and I'd prefer to leave that task to software that I'm comfortable
with. But to have a custom synth or effect or midi chain filter or
integrated graphics show work seamlessly from my DAW once I load one
single project file is the holy grail to me.

Having 5 programs open and trying to wrangle the routing between them
for a half hour to get a song playing is less than ideal. A Pluggo for
Pd would help minimize the time and frustration of this by compressing
it all into one file that references a bank of subordinate plugins.

~Kyle

On 3/3/07, Jamie Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:20 +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote:

 
  i've been changing some emails with stefano d'angelo, who is starting to
  write a plugin wrapper, which is supposed to work with different plugin
  backends (vst, ladspa ...) ... a pluggo for pd could make use of this
  project in order to support several platforms out of the box. i guess,
  stefano doesn't have a working prototype, yet, but it's probably a good
  idea to join the development resources in order do avoid duplicate work.
  his project website is http://sourceforge.net/projects/naspro/
 
  in general, from my knowledge of the pd architecture, running pd in a
  plugin environment would require some non-trival changes, it can't be
  just implemented on top of the current implementation. which means, in
  some way, this has to be incorporated into vanilla pd ...
 

 Maybe this is a very naive solution, but couldn't we solve the problem
 of getting audio data from PD into non-jack apps (that support some kind
 of plugin), by writing a very simple (LADSPA, VST, AU etc.) plugin that
 acts as a jack client.

 e.g.:

 Audacity - LADSPA jack client plugin - jack - PD - jack - LADSPA
 jack client plugin - Audacity

 The simplest case would use one 'jack client plugin' instance for each
 audio channel to/from PD.

 I've been meaning to implement this for a while, and maybe there's a
 glaring flaw, but I can't see it right now..

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-03 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Yeah. Kyle pretty much summed it up there.  This is something I've
wanted badly since I first saw Pd.  It took me months to get a stable,
workable setup between Cubase and Pd, and even now, I could finally
take up knitting with the time a Pluggo for Pd would save me.  Futzing
with Jack and OS X IAC every time I want to make noise is a monstrous
PITA.

I've attempted building large sequencers to replace Cubase on multiple
occasions, but it just doesn't make sense to duplicate that effort
(and that's assuming Pd's data structures are ready for such a thing
performance-wise, which they are not).

So a huge vote for PluggoPd!

The Naspro project that Tim mentioned was exactly what I thought of
when I first saw this idea... I'm glad to see it is being developed;
the myriad plugin formats are a tedious situation.

Luke

On 3/3/07, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There already is a jack VST and Audio Unit for OSX, that's not the
 issue. What I really want is to just be able to run one master app (my
 DAW) and have everything else loaded from there, so that I don't have
 to do the whole 30 mins of configuring and opening corresponding files
 and settings, stored in directories across the computer thing.

 It's a pain to have to adjust and load setting after setting when it
 could all be saved in a nice project file in a professional sequencer
 app. For those of us who like what Pd has to offer as a bus insert or
 midi filter or general audio swiss army knife, we don't want to deal
 with multiples of files all over the place in different spots, we just
 want to have a nice compact project space that contains everything in
 an intuitive way, so we can just touch and go, and save everything so
 that we can open the project back up again exactly how we left it, all
 automation and everything stored in the project.

 Managing automation in Pd has not been a quick and dirty thing for me,
 and I'd prefer to leave that task to software that I'm comfortable
 with. But to have a custom synth or effect or midi chain filter or
 integrated graphics show work seamlessly from my DAW once I load one
 single project file is the holy grail to me.

 Having 5 programs open and trying to wrangle the routing between them
 for a half hour to get a song playing is less than ideal. A Pluggo for
 Pd would help minimize the time and frustration of this by compressing
 it all into one file that references a bank of subordinate plugins.

 ~Kyle

 On 3/3/07, Jamie Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:20 +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote:
 
  
   i've been changing some emails with stefano d'angelo, who is starting to
   write a plugin wrapper, which is supposed to work with different plugin
   backends (vst, ladspa ...) ... a pluggo for pd could make use of this
   project in order to support several platforms out of the box. i guess,
   stefano doesn't have a working prototype, yet, but it's probably a good
   idea to join the development resources in order do avoid duplicate work.
   his project website is http://sourceforge.net/projects/naspro/
  
   in general, from my knowledge of the pd architecture, running pd in a
   plugin environment would require some non-trival changes, it can't be
   just implemented on top of the current implementation. which means, in
   some way, this has to be incorporated into vanilla pd ...
  
 
  Maybe this is a very naive solution, but couldn't we solve the problem
  of getting audio data from PD into non-jack apps (that support some kind
  of plugin), by writing a very simple (LADSPA, VST, AU etc.) plugin that
  acts as a jack client.
 
  e.g.:
 
  Audacity - LADSPA jack client plugin - jack - PD - jack - LADSPA
  jack client plugin - Audacity
 
  The simplest case would use one 'jack client plugin' instance for each
  audio channel to/from PD.
 
  I've been meaning to implement this for a while, and maybe there's a
  glaring flaw, but I can't see it right now..
 
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-03 Thread David Powers
I think this idea is awesome too ... very useful for me personally,
and would be sure to bring more PD users.
~David

On 3/3/07, Luke Iannini (pd) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah. Kyle pretty much summed it up there.  This is something I've
 wanted badly since I first saw Pd.  It took me months to get a stable,
 workable setup between Cubase and Pd, and even now, I could finally
 take up knitting with the time a Pluggo for Pd would save me.  Futzing
 with Jack and OS X IAC every time I want to make noise is a monstrous
 PITA.

 I've attempted building large sequencers to replace Cubase on multiple
 occasions, but it just doesn't make sense to duplicate that effort
 (and that's assuming Pd's data structures are ready for such a thing
 performance-wise, which they are not).

 So a huge vote for PluggoPd!

 The Naspro project that Tim mentioned was exactly what I thought of
 when I first saw this idea... I'm glad to see it is being developed;
 the myriad plugin formats are a tedious situation.

 Luke

 On 3/3/07, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There already is a jack VST and Audio Unit for OSX, that's not the
  issue. What I really want is to just be able to run one master app (my
  DAW) and have everything else loaded from there, so that I don't have
  to do the whole 30 mins of configuring and opening corresponding files
  and settings, stored in directories across the computer thing.
 
  It's a pain to have to adjust and load setting after setting when it
  could all be saved in a nice project file in a professional sequencer
  app. For those of us who like what Pd has to offer as a bus insert or
  midi filter or general audio swiss army knife, we don't want to deal
  with multiples of files all over the place in different spots, we just
  want to have a nice compact project space that contains everything in
  an intuitive way, so we can just touch and go, and save everything so
  that we can open the project back up again exactly how we left it, all
  automation and everything stored in the project.
 
  Managing automation in Pd has not been a quick and dirty thing for me,
  and I'd prefer to leave that task to software that I'm comfortable
  with. But to have a custom synth or effect or midi chain filter or
  integrated graphics show work seamlessly from my DAW once I load one
  single project file is the holy grail to me.
 
  Having 5 programs open and trying to wrangle the routing between them
  for a half hour to get a song playing is less than ideal. A Pluggo for
  Pd would help minimize the time and frustration of this by compressing
  it all into one file that references a bank of subordinate plugins.
 
  ~Kyle
 
  On 3/3/07, Jamie Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:20 +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote:
  
   
i've been changing some emails with stefano d'angelo, who is starting to
write a plugin wrapper, which is supposed to work with different plugin
backends (vst, ladspa ...) ... a pluggo for pd could make use of this
project in order to support several platforms out of the box. i guess,
stefano doesn't have a working prototype, yet, but it's probably a good
idea to join the development resources in order do avoid duplicate work.
his project website is http://sourceforge.net/projects/naspro/
   
in general, from my knowledge of the pd architecture, running pd in a
plugin environment would require some non-trival changes, it can't be
just implemented on top of the current implementation. which means, in
some way, this has to be incorporated into vanilla pd ...
   
  
   Maybe this is a very naive solution, but couldn't we solve the problem
   of getting audio data from PD into non-jack apps (that support some kind
   of plugin), by writing a very simple (LADSPA, VST, AU etc.) plugin that
   acts as a jack client.
  
   e.g.:
  
   Audacity - LADSPA jack client plugin - jack - PD - jack - LADSPA
   jack client plugin - Audacity
  
   The simplest case would use one 'jack client plugin' instance for each
   audio channel to/from PD.
  
   I've been meaning to implement this for a while, and maybe there's a
   glaring flaw, but I can't see it right now..
  
   Jamie
  
  
  
  
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-02 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 so imo, such a project should be coordinated with miller in order to
 avoid that the effort is wasted, just because he doesn't incorporate the
 changes.

of course - and IMHO that's the problem with that project ...

LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-01 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Well, at least with OSX, there are Audio Units development kits
available for free with their developers package (also free).

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Steinberg is cagey about VST
API stuff, but am not sure.

Something like this would really cause me to use Pd a whole lot more.

Features that would be great are:
-cross platform
-ability to encapsulate a plug-in that has all libraries and
abstractions included in a single file.
-edit-ability in this encapsulated form

I doubt that these things will be easy (if even possible to accomplish).

Oh, and on the subject, maybe we could think about enlisting some
'summer help' on tcl/tk interface improvements as well?

~Kyle

On 3/1/07, Josh Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Georg Holzmann wrote:
  Hallo!
 
 
  Well, I guess updating PdVST is a little bit too small ...
 
 
  not if done correctly, it should be portable, support multiple plugin
  formats (ladsa, dx, vst), etc.  would be a really good summer project.
 
 
  you are right ... but aren't there already hosts for all the plugins ?
 

 other way around, the project isnt to host plugins in pd, its to host pd
 patches as a plugins in other vst hosts (live, flstudio, whatever)...
 check out PdVST if you have a windows box... it works pretty well, but
 is based of a really outdated pd:

 http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/

 
  i am unable... i removed PdVST from the short list, Pluggo4PD is
  probably a better descriptor, but now there is no little ? to click on.
 
 
  strange ;) ... I changed it to PluggoPD, now it's possible again ... it
  seems that for the wiki there should be no numbers in the names ...
 

 ahh, that makes some sense, thanks.  i'll try to find some time soon to
 writeup a description.  if anyone wants to pipe in with wanted features
 or maybe clues on how to implement this it would be helpful.

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-28 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 Well, I guess updating PdVST is a little bit too small ...
   
 not if done correctly, it should be portable, support multiple plugin 
 formats (ladsa, dx, vst), etc.  would be a really good summer project.

you are right ... but aren't there already hosts for all the plugins ?

 i am unable... i removed PdVST from the short list, Pluggo4PD is 
 probably a better descriptor, but now there is no little ? to click on.

strange ;) ... I changed it to PluggoPD, now it's possible again ... it 
seems that for the wiki there should be no numbers in the names ...

LG
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[PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-27 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I 
started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed.

This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of 
the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct 
my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google 
guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs).

Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-27 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hey, why not have the Pd website be a project for SOC as well?

I'm sure there would be some young designers aching to test their
skills and give us a good PR representation.

Is that acceptable to the terms of the event?

~Kyle

On 2/27/07, Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hallo!

 As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I
 started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed.

 This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of
 the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct
 my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google
 guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs).

 Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-27 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 Hey, why not have the Pd website be a project for SOC as well?
 
 I'm sure there would be some young designers aching to test their
 skills and give us a good PR representation.
 
 Is that acceptable to the terms of the event?

No, unfortunately no documentation work will be accepted ...
(I read it somewhere in the FAQ)

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-27 Thread Josh Steiner
i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea.  or if 
someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst 
used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea.

-josh

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 Hallo!

 As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I 
 started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed.

 This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of 
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 my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google 
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 Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-27 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes yes yes


And cross-platform too. Or at least a comparable audio units version
for Mac users.

That would be great!

~Kyle

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 i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea.  or if
 someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst
 used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea.

 -josh

 Georg Holzmann wrote:
  Hallo!
 
  As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I
  started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed.
 
  This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of
  the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can correct
  my really bad english and make this text looking better to the google
  guys (everyone with an puredata.org account should have write privilegs).
 
  Here is the WIKI: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code
 
  LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-02-27 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea.  or if 
 someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst 
 used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea.

Well, I guess updating PdVST is a little bit too small ...

And don't know much if a Pluggo for PD is possible, so I cannot really 
describe it - and if it is possible I think it should not be only for 
VST, also LADSPA etc.

But you can of course add it to the WIKI, but please make also a more 
detailed description (click on the ? to generate the new page)

LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-18 Thread Tim Blechmann
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 23:15 +0100, Georg Holzmann wrote:
 
 any suggestions for projects ? 

well, if you're planning to work on the pd core, i guess, it would be a
good idea to contact miller in order to see, which projects he would
include and which projects he would reject.
imo, it would be a bad idea to spent the summer coding and in the end
miller rejects the patch ...

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 04:19:28PM +, padawan12 wrote:
 Or can the summer of code thing just be about any stuff you like and not
 limited to web programming?

It can be about anything.

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-02-17 Thread carmen
 with server-side Pd. The Google SOC can be about anything, but Pd has
 these very good advantages over other dataflow languages :
 
 * can be used with no GUI (server-side)

you're joking? before i submitted pd to the dataflow category in dmoz, 
everythign there was some kind of programming language that you could 
_definitely_ use without a GUI..

and in the sense that the patches define a signal/message graph. SC and Chuck 
tear it to shreds on no-gui..

of course, this could be a good subject for the summer of code..

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[PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


http://code.google.com/soc/

Does anyone know if Google is going to run the Summer of Code program  
again?  If so, I'll happily setup the mentoring organization part  
of it.


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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-01-08 Thread Tim Blechmann
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:16 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 http://code.google.com/soc/
 
 Does anyone know if Google is going to run the Summer of Code
 program  
 again?  If so, I'll happily setup the mentoring organization part  
 of it.

i'm curious, what would be the projects that you'd propose? how should
it be integrated into the development process of pd?

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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jan 8, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote:


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:16 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

http://code.google.com/soc/

Does anyone know if Google is going to run the Summer of Code
program
again?  If so, I'll happily setup the mentoring organization part
of it.


i'm curious, what would be the projects that you'd propose? how should
it be integrated into the development process of pd?


That would depend on who was interested.  There is plenty to do,  
that's for sure.  The whole reason I would do this is to make sure  
that it would get integrated in.


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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-01-08 Thread Georg Holzmann

Hallo!


i'm curious, what would be the projects that you'd propose? how should
it be integrated into the development process of pd?


That would depend on who was interested.  There is plenty to do, that's 
for sure.  The whole reason I would do this is to make sure that it 
would get integrated in.


I'm interested - but I have to think about what exactly ... ;)

LG
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Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code

2007-01-08 Thread carmen
On Mon Jan 08, 2007 at 10:58:08PM +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 16:25 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
   i'm curious, what would be the projects that you'd propose? how
  should
   it be integrated into the development process of pd?

maybe it whouldnt be so pd specific. is there any sort of 'technology in arts' 
mentoring group for SoC? last i checked it was mainly projects used in Ubuntu..

  
  That would depend on who was interested.  There is plenty to do,  
  that's for sure.  The whole reason I would do this is to make sure  
  that it would get integrated in.
 
 well, i guess it needs some open discussion among the pd developers, and
 especially with miller about what projects he would accept or not.
 
 i mean, it's probably useless to have someone work on something like
 simd optimization, the scheduler or xlet tooltips, if miller is not
 going to accept the code.
 
 so, i'd definitely like to hear, what miller thinks of this ...
 
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