Re: [PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?

2012-08-23 Thread Björn Eriksson
Thanks Patrice and Iohannes for the replies on this!

Great pointers and clues!!
I didn´t know about blind date/peer data  projects before! Very
interesting!
I get the image of weaving when thinking of this. I like the concept of
patching together.
Like in music/sound improvisation I guess it becomes rather important to
listen and wait the steps of the co-players/co-patchers - and follow and
do contrasting things... etcetera...

Iohannes, let us know at the list how things proceed around this!

///  Another related idea/concept I have been thinking on is weaving -
sortof matrix - like you have a dynamic matrix where each patcher can work
in different areas of the matrix, that is in some defined way constituted
so changes in one part of the matrix is affecting other parts. . Like a
weaving - if you put in new threads things change in the overall
structure... and if you are tearing in some parts - stretching etcetera -
things change in the overall perspective.  

(sorry to disturb the thread with this new perspective - but just couldn´t
help it as the idea was triggered to be released when thinking on the other
things in this thread)

All the best,
Björn Eriksson

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:

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 On 2012-08-19 18:12, Björn Eriksson wrote:
  Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s
  already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd
  mainly.

 have you looked at Pd-graz' blind date[1]? originally we used a
 multi-keyboard/multi-mouse setup, but eventually made a software-based
 client/server solution originally called multipd and later renamed
 to peer data.
 it was presented at the pd~con in montreal (Patching Music
 Together:collaborative live coding in PureData[2]).

 i hope to give a workshop on that in november in mexico city.

 fgmasdr
 IOhannes



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Re: [PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?

2012-08-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-08-19 18:12, Björn Eriksson wrote:
 Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s
 already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd
 mainly.

have you looked at Pd-graz' blind date[1]? originally we used a
multi-keyboard/multi-mouse setup, but eventually made a software-based
client/server solution originally called multipd and later renamed
to peer data.
it was presented at the pd~con in montreal (Patching Music
Together:collaborative live coding in PureData[2]).

i hope to give a workshop on that in november in mexico city.

fgmasdr
IOhannes



[1] http://pd-graz.mur.at/blind-date
[2]
http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/dissertation/literature/bibliography/zmoelnig2007patching/
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[PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?

2012-08-19 Thread Björn Eriksson
Hello,
earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and
maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly.

My idea is this:
One computer, several keyboards and mouses connected to this same one
computer, shares a Pd window, patching together.
Could be something that could be interesting to do as live
performance/collaboration... maybe.
Just wanted to share this idea - and see if it´s already been done
something like this..

Guess the technical side of it is more to get several keyboards/mouses to
run in parallell with unique ids. Probably there exists a really easy
solution to this.

I am not directly planning to do this, but I am curious anyway, if someone
can elaborate on this idea then I am happy to listen..!?
(I know there are some web-interfaced Pd projects (Purée Data?) but this
idea is more simple, just to use one computer with several users/patchers.)

All the best,
Björn Eriksson
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Re: [PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?

2012-08-19 Thread Patrice Colet
 hello,

it should be possible with [hid] but it would require to make an interface for 
sending internal messages, and drawing several custom cursors.
Graphically I guess that the patcher would have to be made with another tool 
kit than tcltk by using a library like tkinter (already available),
or even better (I guess) with a gtk or a qt frontend external. Another solution 
would be about hacking Gem or gridflow for using multiple mouses, I don't know 
if it's possible.


Colet Patrice

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 Objet: [PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?
 
 Hello,
 earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already
 done, and
 maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly.
 
 My idea is this:
 One computer, several keyboards and mouses connected to this same one
 computer, shares a Pd window, patching together.
 Could be something that could be interesting to do as live
 performance/collaboration... maybe.
 Just wanted to share this idea - and see if it´s already been done
 something like this..
 
 Guess the technical side of it is more to get several
 keyboards/mouses to
 run in parallell with unique ids. Probably there exists a really
 easy
 solution to this.
 
 I am not directly planning to do this, but I am curious anyway, if
 someone
 can elaborate on this idea then I am happy to listen..!?
 (I know there are some web-interfaced Pd projects (Purée Data?) but
 this
 idea is more simple, just to use one computer with several
 users/patchers.)
 
 All the best,
 Björn Eriksson
 
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